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Srila Prabhupada on serving Krsna favorably

760924SB.VRN                   Lectures                  
   Suppose for the impersonalist, virad-rupa, the sky is the head of
the Personality of Godhead. They think like that. And the big, big
mountains are the bones, and big, big oceans are the holes of the
body, and the trees, they are...
In one sense, it is all right. But if
you take the virad-rupa, how you can capture?
It is impossible. He has
virad-rupa. He has shown virad-rupa to Krsna (Arjuna), but you cannot
capture that virad-rupa. You are tiny. Therefore He is so kind that He
has appeared before you in this temple so that you can touch Him
actually, you can serve Him, you can dress Him, you can offer Him
. It is... Therefore, if we think like that... Not think. It
is a fact. Because God is not only very big. Mahato mahiyan anor
aniyan. He can become smaller than the smallest. That is God
. Brahman
does not means simply big so that you cannot capture. That is
omnipotency. Whatever He likes, He can become. He can put all the
universes within His mouth
. When Yasodamayi challenged that "Krsna,
You are eating earth. Your friends are complaining," "No, mother, I
did not. They are telling false." "Now Your elder brother, Balarama,
also is saying." "No, He has... This morning He is angry with Me;
therefore He has joined with them." "I want to see Your face." So He
opened the mouth and the mother saw that millions of millions of universes
are within the mouth.

..   So when Krsna comes, you cannot see Krsna. You cannot capture
Krsna, mahato mahiyan. When He comes before you, arca-murti,
arca-vigraha... This is arca-vigraha, Deity
. Arcye visnau sila-dhih.
Krsna has appeared. ... We're just beginners. So we do not know what is Krsna.

We cannot see Krsna,either His virad-murti or this murti. So what we can see? We can see
stone, wood, or material things. So when Krsna appears to be seen by
you and He appears like a stone statue, He's not stone statue
. Don't
think. Therefore we must learn how to see Krsna. So we should not
think that "Here is a stone statue." As soon as we think of stone
statue, then our, this feeling, bhava, will be lost.
.... So we should not think.

If we think that "Here is a stone statue," then it will not prolong many days. It will not... Galagraha.
No more vigraha, but galagraha. Suppose I have established this
temple. Now under my direction, my disciples are worshiping vigraha.
Vigraha means the form of the Lord, rupa. But if there is no following

of the regulative principles, then after my death it will be
galagraha, a burden, that "Our rascal Guru Maharaja established this
temple, and we have to worship, early rise in the morning, all
botheration." This will be... That is called galagraha, a burden, "He
has left with us a burden
." This is the risk. Then this, such a big
temple will be mismanaged, and you'll find that "This is breaking" and
"This is unclean," and there is no attention. This will be our... That
is called galagraha. "The rascal has given us a burden."
   So it is very difficult. If we lost, if we have lost that feeling
that "Here is Krsna. Here is a chance to serve Him
Sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana-srngara-tan-mandira -marjanadau. As soon
as... Therefore we are very much vigilant, "Why you did not this? Why
you do not this? Why...?" As soon as the feeling of devotional service
will be lost, this temple will be a burden
. This is the way. It will
be such a big temple. To manage, it will be a great burden. So they
are feeling burden. Therefore they don't mind if somewhere is broken
sometimes. "All right, let us, whatever money we have got, let us eat
first of all." This is the position. Vigraha and galagraha. You should
understand. If we forget that "Here is Krsna personally present. We

have to receive Him very nicely. We have to give Him nice food, nice
dress, nice..." Then it is service. And as soon as the feeling comes
that "Here is a stone idol..." They say sometimes "idol worship." "And
we have been instructed to dress Him, to give Him..., all
botheration." Then finished. Finished

That has come everywhere. I have seen in Nasik in many, many big temples

 there is no pujari, and the dogs are passing stool. Not only they're breaking. In Western
countries also the churches are being closed--big, big churches. In
London I have seen, very big, big churches, but they're closed. When
there is meeting on Sunday, the caretaker, two, three men, and some
old lady, they come. Nobody comes. And we are purchasing. We have
purchased several churches. Because it is now useless. It is useless.
In our Los Angeles we have purchased and several others. In Toronto.
That recently we have purchased. Big, big churches. But they would not
sell us. One church, the priest said that "I shall set fire in this
church, still I shall not give to Bhaktivedanta Swami." (laughter)
This Toronto church was like that also. And in Melbourne, the
condition was, sale condition was, that you have to dismantle this
church building. We said, "Why?" He said, "Utilize as temple now, then
we shall not give you." They refused. You know that? So they do not

like that "This Krsna consciousness movement will purchase our
churches and install Radha-Krsna Deity." They do not like that. But it
is not(?) going on.
   So not only the churches in the Western countries, here also. As
soon as you will lose the spirit of service, this temple will become a
big go-down, that's all. No more temple. So we have to maintain that
service spirit
. Therefore we are so much particular--"Why fresh flower
is not there?" If you think, "Here is a stone statue. What is the
meaning of fresh[tulsi] flower or old flower? We have to give some flower.
That's all." But no feeling, that "Here is Krsna. We must give fresh
Just like I'm a living man, if you give me a fresh flower,
and if you bring some garbage, and if you give me, shall I be pleased?
Do you think? So this feeling is losing even in the beginning, that
"We shall satisfy this statue with some rubbish, garbage flowers. He's
not going to protest." Yes, He'll not protest. But your life will be
The protest will come like that. As soon as you lost the
feeling, bhava, budha bhava-samanvitah. Who can worship Krsna? When
there is bhava
. Sthayi-bhava. This has been discussed in
Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, what is bhava. But if you have no bhava, then
you are on the material, kanistha-adhikari. Simply show
. A show cannot (last)..

Caitanya-caritamrta karaca has described about this faith. He describes... Faith means sraddha.
English word "faith," and Sanskrit word is sraddha, "respectful."
Sraddadhana. So this sraddha, adau sraddha... The beginning is
sraddha, faith. So this sraddha is defined by Krsnadasa Kaviraja

             'sraddha'-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha niscaya
               krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya

This is sraddha. According to our Gaudiya Vaisnavas, this is sraddha.
What is that?
Krsna is asking, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam
saranam vraja. He's asking, demanding. So when we have faith in the
words of Krsna: "Yes, Krsna says sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam.
Yes, I shall do," then sraddha begins. Otherwise, there is no sraddha.
That is the beginning of sraddha
. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sangah. If
you have got faith in these words of Krsna, that "Yes, whatever Krsna
says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam..., accept it," then
sraddha begins. Otherwise there is no sraddha.
Ordinary sraddha is...,

they are going this temple or another Kali's temple or Durga's temple.
They say that "Everyone is all right." Yata mata tata patha: "Whatever
you like." That is not sraddha; that is whims. And sraddha means when
you firmly believe on the words of Krsna,
that Krsna said,
sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. Therefore Krsnadasa
Kaviraja Gosvami said, sraddha-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha niscaya.
Krsna said that "Give up everything, I shall give you..." "Yes, it is
fact. Why shall I bother with..." That is sraddha. Visvasa kahe
sudrdha niscaya. Sudrdha means very firm faith. Not flickering faith.
   When you have got this kind of sraddha, naturally, the next stage
will be "How to keep my sraddha, firm faith in Krsna?" Then you have
to mix with devotees who are keeping constantly in Krsna's service
Therefore this temple is required, that devotees will always be
engaged in Krsna's service, and those who have got sraddha, they will
come and see how the devotees are engaged, how they have sacrificed
their life only for serving Krsna. That is sadhu-sanga.



Some Conclusions--this is a very nice lecture by Srila Prabhupada because  he is explaining things so nicely. Two conceptions of God-Virata rupa (Universal form) and Deity form-one is far too big, the other (Deity) easily handable by the devotee who takes advantage of God coming before him in this Form . When one serves daily the Deity form of God, that devotee gets practical,daily, hands on experience of how to please God directly in ways of bathing Him, dressing Him, feeding Him, singing for Him,etc.  that another devotee who doesnt take advantage of this gift, will never understand. One way (just plain book knowledge) is theoretical, but the other is practical, because it gives not only knowledge of the Lord but direct service to Him as well.

Another point he makes is that if some devotees think this morning program/Deity worship is simply a burden given by guru, then for them the Deity will remain forever, just a chunk of stone or metal and this opportunity for direct personal contact with God will never be taken. The reason  there is no feeling or bhava there in the heart is because they have not heard properly or sufficiently from their spiritual master. Because just by hearing the nectarean words of Srimad Bhagavatam the feeling for loving Devotional Service to the Supreme Lord immediately sprouts up within ones heart and extinguishes the pangs of this material world.

One of his last points is on offering Fresh flowers to the Lord and not some stale, dried up things that we try to pass off as "love offerings". Krsna is present there before us, and our "spiritual life" is finished he says, if we try to pass off  stale/dried offerings, as service to God...

just some thoughts on this mornings SB class....

Hare Krsna,

Damaghosa dasa


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