Anything- but surrender to God is our mental concoctions--SP
Indian man: Swamiji, I get two thoughts. Number one: having acquired a
family, I am willing to renounce, but would I not be running away from
the responsibility, in the name of Lord Krsna, for the bringing up and
educating the children? And second thing...
Prabhupada: You cannot educate, neither you bring. This is maya. Do
you think... Do you think that only in your presence your children
will be happy? There are... Just see here in the corner, the father,
mother, and the child is always, twenty-four hours, crying. The
father, mother, is there. They are poor men, they are taking care, but
still, the child is unhappy; it is crying twenty-four hours. There are
many you'll find. So does it mean that in the presence of father,
mother, a child is happy? Everyone is being conducted by his destiny.
The father, mother, may be there or may not be there; his destiny will
go on. This is the law of nature. You see here. Do you mean to say,
because that man is poor, he's not taking care of the child? Why the
child is crying twenty-four hours? So if one child is made to cry by
his destiny, even in the presence of his father, mother, he has to
cry. Nobody can make him happy. So this is called illusion, that "I am
doing." Ahankara-vimudhatma kartaham iti manyate. A rascal, he thinks
like that. But it is not the fact. The fact is prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih. His destiny or her destiny is to suffer. So even though
father, mother... Suppose a rich man's son is sick. He has engaged
good physician, good doctor. Does it mean that he will guarantee life?
Then what is the principle? Balasya neha saranam pitarau. Prahlada
Maharaja said that "It is not a fact that when the children are under
the protection of father and mother, he's secure." Tvad-upeksitanam:
"If You neglect, that 'This child must cry; this child must die,' then
even by the greatest care of the father and mother, he will die." So
what is the use, saying that your duty...? Duty? That is maya.
Indian man: Second thing is...
Prabhupada: No, first of all you understand this. Then bring second
thing. That you have no duty. Your only duty is to surrender to Krsna.
Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam. That is your only duty. But because
you are under the mental platform, you are creating duties, so but
that also must be finished after certain age. That is compulsory, that
"You are very good, responsible man. All right, do your duty up to
this. No more duty. No more duty." So this "duty, no duty," this is
our creation. We are under fully control of the nature. But we have
created our mental concoction: "This is duty. This is good. This is
bad." That is our mano-dharma. Real dharma is sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja. This is real dharma. And everything [else] is
mano-dharma, mental creation. Therefore the Bhagavata in the beginning
it is said that dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra: "This false dharma is
rejected." These are all false dharmas. Real dharma is to surrender to
Krsna. But it takes time. Therefore sat-sanga is required. But
actually real dharma is to become Krsna conscious and do everything...
Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. What Krsna wants, we must know it and do
it. And this is real dharma.......
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Material consciousness means thinking falsely independent. That is
material consciousness. Falsely. He is not independent, but he is
thinking falsely, "I am independent." This is maya. Just like in dream
he is falsely thinking there is a tiger. There is no tiger, but he is
actuated by this false impression, "Oh, tiger is eating me. It has
attacked me. Save me." So this material existence means because he is
insane, he is thinking there are so many problems, "The tiger is
there. He is attacking me. This, that, so many enemies, friends...,"
creating so many things. But they are all false. But he is attacked by
that false hallucination. That's all. This is maya. Everyone is
thinking, "Oh, there are so many problems I have to solve. I have to
make this,... this, so many." But he has no problem. He has no
problem. His only problem is how to accept Krsna. That's all. And
Krsna is so kind. He says, "Yes, you accept Me. Simply chant Krsna. I
am yours. That's all." But my, I am so misfortunate that I cannot
chant even. All problems solved simply by chanting Krsna.
Etadrsi tavakrpa bhagavan. Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches that "O Krsna, You are so
kind that You have come to Me in the sound vibration, word, 'Krsna.' I
can very easily chant, and You remain with Me. But I am so
misfortunate that I have no attraction even for this." You say people,
"You chant Krsna; you get everything." They will not believe it. If
you say, "You press your nose. You pay me fifty dollars. I'll give you
some nice mantra and this, that. You make your head like this, leg
like this," "Oh," he'll say, "here is something." Something. "And this
Swamiji says, 'Simply chant Krsna.' Oh, what is this?" Therefore
Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, etadrsi tava krpa bhagavan mamapi durdaiva:
"But I am so unfortunate that You have become so easily available in
this age, but I am so unfortunate, I cannot accept it." So the Krsna
consciousness so easily being distributed, but they are so
unfortunate, they cannot accept. Just see. And you give them bluff,
you cheat them--they will, "Ah, yes, welcome. Yes." They'll welcome
it. And cheaters are always ready: "Oh, there are so many customers
for being cheated. Let me take advantage of it." So my Guru Maharaja
used to say, "This world is the society of cheaters and cheated." The
members are somebody are cheating, and somebody are cheated. The
association of cheaters and cheated. So we want to save them from this
society of cheaters and cheated.
Janardana: Prabhupada, often when we'll be performing, doing some
activity during our day, and so many things will go wrong, and we
Prabhupada: Well, when one is a professional, there may be something
wrong. That doesn't matter. But you try to discharge your duties,
rightly, whatever you are prescribed to do. Then everything will come
to the right point. Your only business is to follow the four
principles of regulative life and chant Hare Krsna sixteen rounds. So
there may be sometimes mistake. That will be corrected automatically.
Because we are coming from a different platform, so it may be. And
that is also said in the Bha... Api cet su-duracaro bhajate mam
ananya-bhak, sadhur eva sa mantavyah: "If one is found doing mistake
or doing something wrong, but because he is sticking to this principle
of Krsna consciousness, he is sadhu." Sadhu means a holy man. He is
holy. He is not doing any wrong consciously.
So one may argue that "These bhaktas are not always very learned
scholars. Mostly, they are mediocre. And there are so many big, big
scholars. They cannot see God easily and only the bhaktas can do?"
Yes. That is the process. Krsna says, bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas
casmi tattvatah. In bhakti, one can immediately... Because real
process is to surrender to God. That is the real process. But these
jnanis, yogis, and karmis, they are not prepared to surrender to God.
The karmis will say, "Let us act nicely," I mean to say, "virtuously.
We are karmis. So God must give us the result." This is called
karma-mimamsa. They say that... Just like the so-called scientists say
that "God has created this universe. The laws are there. So we have to
study the laws. What we shall do with the God?" Is it not? "God has
created these... The physical laws are there. So let us study these
physical laws. What is the use of studying God?" That is their view.
The karma-mimamsa also, that, they say that "After all, if we act
virtuously, then we shall get good result. So what is the use of
worshiping God? Let us work virtuously." This is their view. Karmi.
And jnani. Jnani also, they say. Jnani, the scientists, they are
jnani, that "What is the use of worshiping God? Let us study the laws
of God." So jnani, karmi... And yogi, they are also of the same view.
So karmi, jnani, yogi, and the last is bhakta. So bhakta can see
God very quickly because Krsna recommends, bhaktya mam abhijanati
yavan yas casmi tattvatah. Tattvatah, in truth, one can understand
what is God by following the process of bhakti-yoga.
Real Dharma is to surrender to God. Anything else is only mano dharma-or mentally contrived and therefore useless spiritually. This can only be done with good devotee association. One can act virtuously, doing material duties perfectly, but eventually, (which lifetime?) one has to give up all these asat dharmas, knowing them to be only illusory, and surrender to Lord Krsna. In another place Srila Prabhupada states that any activity except for the 9 processes of bhakti, is unauthorized mental activity. Why? Because anything but these 9 acts of pure bhakti are material acts dealing only with the gross or subtle body and not the pure soul,therefore they bind us to birth and death.
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