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Tidbits of Nectar from SP Srimad Bhagavatam lectures--​Vol 4 Part 1

SB volume 4


►730502SB.LA                   Lectures

   "What is the proof of eternity?" The proof is there. Krsna says, na hanyate hanyamane

sarire. That is the proof. Sruti. This is hearing, disciplic

succession hearing from the Supreme. This is one proof. One proof is

by logic, nyaya-pramana. You can get your knowledge by logic,

argument, philosophical research. This is all right also. But another,

sruti, by hearing from the authorities. That is also knowledge. And

smrti. Smrti means statement derived from sruti. Just like

Bhagavad-gita is called smrti, the Puranas are called smrti. But

Upanisad is called sruti, and Vedanta is called nyaya. So three ways,

nyaya-pramana, sruti-pramana and smrti-pramana. So of all these, the

sruti-pramana, or the evidence by the sruti, is very important….


730502SB.LA                    Lectures                 

 But in the jungle you go, you see all the animals, big,

big animals like elephant, they are very stout and strong. Who is

supplying them food? The tiger, the lions, everyone--everyone is

living. Some of them are vegetarians, some of them are nonvegetarian,

but nobody is in want of food. The tiger... By nature's way, the tiger

do not get every day food. Naturally, because he is nonvegetarian. …

So he gets his food with a little difficulty. Because who is going to

face the tiger to become its food? Nobody's going, "Sir, I am very

philanthropist, I have come to you to give you food. Take my body."

Nobody's going. Therefore he has got difficulty to find out its food.

Because in the jungle the... There is jungle's laws also, nature's

law. As soon as the tiger is out, there is one animal that is called

fayo(?). I do not know what is the name in English. It will follow the

tiger and it will sound "fayo, fayo," so the other animals will know:

"Now the tiger is out."

   So it has got difficulty. It has got difficulty, by nature's way.

But still Krsna supplies him food. Say after one week he gets the

chance of catching one animal. Therefore he doesn't get fresh food

daily. He stocks the animal in some bush and takes little, little. So

he has become very powerful. People wants, "I want to become like

tiger" or "I want to become like lion." But that is not very good

position, because you won't get food daily. That's a fact. And you

have to search out food with great labor. But if you become a

vegetarian, you get daily. .


741020SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   And actually Bhismadeva went to the side of Duryodhana, considering

that "These people are maintaining me. How can I give up their company

at times of danger?" That is also another consideration. So similarly,

Dronacarya, although he's guru, teacher of military art, he also went

to Duryodhana's side for money. So therefore... Karna... Nobody came

to this side. So Krsna was doing justice, that He was... This is

politics, "Tit for tat." This is politics. Sathe sathyamacaret.(?)

Canakya Pandita says. "If somebody is satha"--satha means very

cunning--"so you should be also cunning." This is politics. You should

not be, at that time, a brahmana, liberal. No. So the idea is that in

the Bhagavad-gita Krsna teaches everything very rightly, properly. The

whole Vedic literature is meant for that, not one-sided.


730503SB.LA                    Lectures                  

... So if you take statistics how much time He devoted for

killing and how much time He devoted for protecting, we shall see He

devoted more time for killing. You see. So that is also Krsna's

business. So those who are Krsna conscious... Killing, we don't mean

that you take weapon. That is not possible in this age. Neither you

have got the strength. If you kill, then you will be killed also. Not

that. But there are two kinds of victory. By logic, by reason, by

education you can kill their demonic propensities. That is also

killing. If one is demon, and if you can turn into a devotee by your

logic, by your arguments, then that is also, he's killed, his demonic

principle is killed--now he's a saintly person. That is also killing.

Not that... Kali-yuga, they're already very poverty-stricken, poor. So

this physical killing is too much for them. They should be killed by

argument, reason, scientific proposition.

   This should be one of the propaganda of Krsna consciousness



730503SB.LA                    Lectures                 

 That is another increase of attachment. Then we have got an apartment.

Find out some means of earning money. Formerly, they were earning...,

there were no factories. Everyone has to earn his livelihood by

agriculture, ksetra. Ato grha-ksetra. First of all, apartment must be

maintained by working, by earning something, grha-ksetra. Then when

we, everything is settled up, now we must have a son, children. Yes.

Ato grha-ksetra-sutapta. Then we shall, we must have some friends, who

will come and eulogize me: "Oh, you have such nice apartment, nice…


741021SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

This is naraki-buddhi. Actually, a Vaisnava is above this

varnasrama-dharma. But we don't claim that we have become perfect

Vaisnava. We are not so impudent. We want to remain under the

Vaisnava. Under the Vaisnava. Otherwise Vaisnava means... In

Caitanya-caritamrta you'll find the Vaisnava is paramahamsa. Vaisnava

has no saffron cloth. Vaisnava is white cloth because Vaisnava is

paramahamsa, above. But we don't claim the position of Vaisnava. We

want to remain servant of Vaisnava. Therefore sannyasa order is below

the position of Vaisnava. Sannyasa order means still in the material

classification. But this Vaisnava is paramo nirmatsaranam satam.

Dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmat... This Vaisnavism is

meant for paramo nirmatsaranam, paramahamsa. Sa gunan samatityaitan

brahma-bhuyaya kalpate.


741023SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

So we should not remain mudha. At least, we must come to the stage of

jnani. Karmi, jnani, yogi, then bhakta. Step by step.

   Therefore intelligent men, they should inquire, "Where we shall

enter in family life and we can eternally enjoy?" That is Krsna's

family. You enter into Krsna's family, Vrndavana family, where Krsna

has got His father, mother, His friends, His lover, His beloved, His

cows, His garden, His Yamuna. You enter that, that family. Then yad

gatva na nivartante. Then you will not have to return back again to

this temporary family, which will not stay. But if you enter Krsna's

family... Therefore Krsna comes. Krsna is so kind that--you are so

much family, fond of family life--"Just here see. I have got My

family. I am not impersonal. I have got My family. I have got My

father. I have got My mother. I have got My friend. I have got My

beloved, Radharani, and the gopis. Everything I have got. You can

enter also. Come. Why you are rotting here?" That is Krsna's mission.

   So the Krsna consciousness movement means to practice in this life

how to enter Krsna's family. You enter Krsna's family as you like.

…   Therefore Krsna's name is Krsna-sakha here. Here it is said that

sri-krsna krsna-sakha: "My dear Krsna, You are..." Kuntidevi did not

say that "You are my nephew." No. That is not spiritual relationship.

But Krsna-sakha, Arjuna, is related with Krsna eternally. Eternally as

friend. How eternally? What is the proof? There is in the

Bhagavad-gita. When Arjuna inquired... When Krsna said that "This

system of yoga I explained to the sun-god millions of years ago," imam

vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam, at that time, to clear the

idea, Arjuna, for our sake, he inquired, "My dear Krsna, we are

contemporaries. You are born the other day along with me. How can I

believe that millions of years ago You spoke this philosophy to the

sun-god? So what is the answer?" The answer is, "My dear Arjuna, both

you and Me, we take so many incarnations, but you forget. But I do not

forget. I do not forget." Therefore Arjuna is always with Krsna. It is

not that in this age, this millennium, Arjuna is friend of Krsna. No.

He is eternal friend. He has made friendship with Krsna. It is never

to be broken. It is never to be broken. So if you want to relish the

rasa, the mellow, the taste of friendship, make friendship with Krsna.

Krsna is prepared to make you friend. Therefore He comes: "Please

come. Become My friend." But we are denying. Make Krsna your friend. Make Krsna your son. Then you'll never lament, "Oh, my son is lost" or

"My son has gone bad." No.

730506SB.LA                    Lectures                 

Prabhupada Little smile. If Krsna is pleased and smiles little, then the whole universe will be pleased. Akhilodayah.Tasmin tuste jagat tustah. If Krsna is pleased, satisfied, then the

whole universe will be satisfied, because the whole universe means

part and parcel of Krsna….


730506SB.LA                    Lectures                 

love and affection, then He accepts. So do not think that "We have

made such nice, sumptuous plate for Krsna. Krsna must eat." No. There

is no such thing, "must." You cannot make Krsna must. That is not

possible. So Krsna will see how much you have love for Him. Then He

will accept. Otherwise He'll reject. Therefore, it is forbidden, those

who are nondevotee, those who are not initiated, those who are not

chanting regularly, their offering to Krsna will not be accepted. We

must be very careful. We must know our position, whether I am

sincerely following the principles of devotional service. Then Krsna

will accept. Yo me bhaktya prayacchati. The real thing is bhakti. So

either you offer Krsna prayers or you offer foodstuff, everything must

be along with bhakti, devotion, love. Then Krsna will accept.

... So the beginning you cannot do so, that anything

you can dovetail. No. In the beginning you have to learn first of all

how to become Krsna conscious. You are, we are in the training period.

We are in the training period. We should not imitate: "Oh, Yudhisthira

Maharaja was ordered to speak lies, so let us go on speaking all

lies." No, not that. You cannot do so. First of all, be trained up.

For being trained up, you have to follow the regulative principles,

the orders of spiritual master. In this way, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau.

When your all parts of your limbs will be engaged in Krsna's service,

hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam, in this way when you are actually advanced,

then whatever you do in Krsna consciousness, that is good.


741024SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

Vaikuntha. Krsna's another name is Vaikuntha, or God's another name is

Vaikuntha. Vaikuntha means vigata-kuntha hy asmat. Therefore spiritual

world is called Vaikuntha. And the material world is duhkhalayam

asasvatam. It is not Vaikuntha. You cannot even walk without anxiety.

Just like we were walking on the street, and the leg slipped. So we

should be very much careful even in walking. Beginning from your

morning walk, you are full of anxiety. But Vaikuntha means no anxiety,

no anxiety. That is spiritual world. We must understand what is

Vaikunthaloka, and what is Jadaloka.


741024SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   Just like a big politician, Gandhi, he also has Bhagavad-gita in

his hand, but he never spoke throughout his whole life that Krsna is

worshipable. He never spoke. Have you seen that he has advised that

Krsna is worshipable? Never. Dr. Radhakrishnan, he is also so big

scholar. He has commented on Bhagavad-gita. Rather, he says, "It is

not to Krsna." When Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam

namaskuru, Dr. Radhakrishnan says, "It is not to Krsna." That is the

difficulty. Because they have no mercy of Krsna upon them, they cannot

understand Krsna. Naham prakasah sarvasya yogamaya-samavrtah. Bhaktya

mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah. This is stated in the

Bhagavad-gita. But they are not bhaktas. Tilak, he has described

Bhagavad-gita as a karmi, never said that Krsna is the Supreme

Personality of Godhead. You'll find like that, so many, what to speak

of others? There are about six hundred commentaries on Bhagavad-gita,

all misleading. Therefore we have presented Bhagavad-gita As It Is,

without any misinterpretation. And it is acting. These six hundred

editions of Bhagavad-gita was being advertised in the Western

countries, and so many scholars and swamis went there--not a single

person became a devotee of Krsna, not a single for the last two

hundred, three hundred years. Before that, there was no such attempt,

but for the last at least hundred years, or more than that, many

Indians went to the Western countries to preach our philosophy, and

they referred to Bhagavad-gita and so on, but unfortunately not a

single person became a devotee of Krsna, not a single person. But as

we presented Bhagavad-gita as it is, within five years, thousands and

thousands have become devotee of Krsna. One can compare this.


741024SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

Therefore nobody can understand Krsna without being trained up by a

self-realized devotee. If a... If one takes the shelter of Krsna's

representative, devotee, then it doesn't matter what he is.

Kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah, ye

'nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah. If he has taken shelter of a pure

devotee--never mind he's a kirata, huna, andhra, pulinda, pulkasa--he

is sudhyanti. He becomes purified, and gradually he understands Krsna.


730509SB.LA                    Lectures                 

   This question was raised by Arjuna also, that "I understand that I

am not this body and my grandfather is not this body. Still, I am

affected when my body or my grandfather is in danger." So what Krsna

advised? Krsna advised, "Yes, that affection is possible." I know that

I am not this body. Theoretically or... But if somebody comes to cut

my body, I will be very much protective. Although I know... I cannot

feel that "I am not this body; let the body be cut off. I don't mind."

No. Then Krsna said that this position... Agamapayinah anityas tams

titiksasva bharata. Matra-sparsas tu kaunteya

…. Our pains and pleasure we feel on account of this skin, matra-sparsah. So we should not deviate from the duty. Even there are pains and pleasure due to this

body, we should not deviate from our duty. That is the instruction of

the sastra. It is not that because it is very, I am feeling very much

cold, I shall not take my bath. No. That's my duty. I must take. And

because I am feeling very hot, therefore I shall not go to the

kitchen. There shall be no cooking today. No, that is not possible.

Cooking must go on. Similarly, despite all difficulties, all

inconveniences on account of this false body, one must do his duty.

And that was the instruction to be given to Maharaja Yudhisthira..

741027SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   But all these activities are simply moha, illusion, only moha. It

has no value. If you say that "So many things, it has no value?" it

has value--temporary, punya. Punya... There is also papa also. Suppose

if you give charity... Charity is pious activities, but if you give

charity to a brahmana, then it is--proper brahmana, qualified

brahmana, Vaisnava--then your charity is properly utilized. And if you

give the same charity to a drunkard, then you commit sinful activity.

If you do not know what kind of charities we shall perform, if you

blindly give charity, then sometimes you may be doing pious

activities, but sometimes you are clearing the way for going to hell.

Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is stated there are three kinds of

charities: sattvika, rajasika, tamasika. If you perform sattvika

charity, then you get good result; rajasika charity, you get some

profit; and tamasika charity, you go to hell. So one must be very

careful even for this sneha, or charity, or philanthropy.

   There is another story--it may be fact--that a boy was raised by

his aunt very liberally. Then, gradually, the boy became, in bad

association, a thief. And the aunt was encouraging, "Oh, it is a very

good business. You are bringing so many things without any labor."

So... Or out of affection he (she) did not chastise the boy when he

was stealing. Then he, at the end, became a murderer. So he committed

a murder. Then when he was to be hanged, so the government men

inquired, "What is your last wish?" "Now, I want to speak with my aunt

through the ear." Then he was allowed. And the aunt was generally

crying that "My nephew is going to be hanged." She was... So he caught

up her ear with the teeth and cut it. So he said, "My dear aunt, if

you would have chastised me in the beginning, then today, this

position, that you are crying and I am going to be hanged, this would

not have happened. But you did not do that. Therefore you are

uselessly crying now, and this is your punishment: I cut off your ear

with the teeth." A very good instruction.

   So the so-called sneha, if it is not properly done... Nature's

regulation is so strict that you cannot avoid the consequence. That is

not possible. These are practical. I have seen another practical... In

front of our residence there was another neighbor. So the old man had

his daughter-in-law. So she was beating her one child. So I inquired

through my servant, "Why this young woman is beating her child?" Now,

then the servant brought me the news that this boy gave parata to his

elder brother who is suffering from typhoid. The typhoid... In typhoid

fever, solid food is forbidden strictly, but the boy did not know. He

asked his younger brother that "If you steal one parata and if you

give me, I am very much hungry." So he became very sympathetic to his

brother, and he gave the parata. And the boy was ill; he aggravated

the illness. So as soon as the mother heard that he gave a parata to

him, he (she) began to beat: "Why did you give?" Now, it was charity,

it was affection and sympathetic, but the result was beating with

shoes. So if we do not know where charity should be given, then, where

affection should be there, then we are under the laws of nature; we

shall be punished if it is not properly done. There is punishment….

…necessities. Sometimes we take sannyasa. I have seen. One of our

Godbrother, big Godbrother, he took sannyasa. So his son was crying,

and he was also crying. Then, if you have got affection for your

family, society, then why you are taking sannyasa? That is prakrtena.

We should not be carried away by this material affection, no. That is

not good. You must do your duty. That is the instruction of

Bhagavad-gita, that "Arjuna, you are being carried away by your

material affection, and you are hesitating to execute your duty.


741028SB.MAY                   Lectures                  

   So this is knowledge. This is knowledge. And when you come to the

right knowledge, after many, many births... Even Maharaja

Yudhisthira... Of course, he is playing the part of ordinary man,

pious man. Pious man is also not perfect. Yudhisthira Maharaja should

have thought like this, that "Yes, this body does not belong to me,

but it belongs to Krsna, and Krsna desired that with this body there

must be fighting for His satisfaction." So Arjuna thought like that.

Arjuna thought like that. Therefore Arjuna is higher grade devotee

than Yudhisthira Maharaja. Yudhisthira Maharaja has got personal

consideration. When Krsna advised him that "You go to Dronacarya and

speak this lie, that his son Asvatthama is dead, otherwise he'll not

die. You go and speak," so he hesitated. He said, "How is that? I

never spoke lie. How can I go and say him the lie?" So this personal

consideration is there, that "If I speak lies, then I will be sinful,

and I'll be punished and so on, so on." But a devotee does not think

like that. "Maybe it is sinful, but it will satisfy Krsna; I must do

it." This is devotee's decision.

   Just like Krsna sometimes became sick. So, in Dvaraka... You have

seen that play in Bombay. And so many physicians came; nobody could

cure Him. Then Krsna suggested His own medicine, that "If some of my

devotees will give the dust of his feet on My head, then I'll be

cured." So the first devotee, Narada and others, everywhere, it was

approached that "Give your dust of feet. Krsna is suffering." "No, no,

no. How can I give my dust of feet? Krsna is Supreme Personality of

Godhead." But when the gopis were approached, when they heard that

Krsna is sick, and He's in urgently necessity of the dust of His

devotees' feet, so immediately they began to give: "Take it, take it

immediately. Immediately." They did not consider that "Giving the dust

of my feet to Krsna, I shall go to hell." "Never mind, I shall go to

hell; it doesn't matter, but let Krsna be cured." That is first


   So this is the topmost devotee, prepared to do anything without any

consideration. That is pure(?) devotee.


741029SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

distributes rain like anything. More than sufficient. Even on the

hill, even on the sea. So we are indebted to the demigods. Just like

water department. You have to pay tax. Or the light department, you

have to pay tax. If you don't pay the bill of the electrical

department, it will be cut off, will be discontinued. But we are not

paying any bill to the sun-god. Just see. We are taking advantage of

the sunshine, but what payment we are paying? Nothing. Therefore this

yajna is recommended.

   So in this way, you are all indebted. You cannot take any service

from anyone without being indebted. You cannot take. You must be... So

we are becoming entangled, complicated with indebtedness. That is

called karma. If you don't pay bill, then you have to suffer. Then you

have to suffer because you are taking simply. These rascals, they do

not know. They are so much ungrateful. They are taking milk from the

cows, and when the milk is no more supplied, "All right, send it to

the slaughterhouse." Once he has taken milk, he's indebted; again, it

is being killed by him. So how much he has become entangled in his

karma he does not know. Mudha. Duskrtino mudhah.


730512SB.LA                    Lectures                 

Prabhupada: What is religious fight? Religious fight means you have

got right to kill your aggressor. If somebody takes your property, if

somebody sets fire in your house, if somebody kidnaps your wife, or

somebody is trying to kill you, they are called aggressor. So

aggressor should be killed immediately. It is not that somebody has

become an aggressor, and if I say, "Now I have become a Vaisnava, I'll

not be violent. I shall tolerate. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has taught us to

be tolerant like the tree or the grass. So I shall become tolerant.

Let him do." Just like Gandhi used to say. Somebody questioned him

that "If somebody comes and violates the chastity of your daughter in

your presence, what will you do?" He said, "I shall remain

nonviolent." But that is not sastric injunction. This is foolishness.

   If somebody is aggressor, he must be killed immediately.

…they should lodge complaint to the king. Just like in these days also,

suppose one is wrong-doer. He has done wrong to me. I cannot take

directly to punish him. No. That you cannot do. You have to lodge the

complaint to the government agent, and if required, government can

kill him, sanction, "Kill this man. He is a murderer." So the sanction

should come from there. Similarly, these divisions, very scientific.

Killing business is for the ksatriya, not for the brahmanas. Ksatriya,

he can kill; there is no sin for him. The brahmanas are not going to



730513SB.LA                    Lectures                 

... I was also married man, you know. I was married

when my wife was only eleven years old. And at the age of fourteen

years she gave birth to first child. And next generation, when my

eldest daughter was married at the age of sixteen years--it is little

increased--but I was also very much upset that the daughter is sixteen

years old.

   But now things have changed. Nobody cares whether the daughter is

married or not. But that is not good. Another difficulty is that

everywhere, all over the world, the female population is greater than,

on the average, than male population. So if each and every woman has

to be married, then there is no sufficient number of male population.

…" And there was no such thing as widow-marriage in India. No. No widow can marry. Why? Because thewoman population is greater than the man. If widow again marries, then the unmarried girl does not get chance to have another husband.

Therefore there was no widow-marriage. Widow-marriage was especially

allowed only when the girl did not see her husband at any time or she

had no children. Formerly, in our days, younger days, although the

girl was married at an early age, she was not allowed to see her

husband unless she is grown-up fully. Unless she has attained puberty,

got my husband." This consciousness is a great pleasure for a women

psychologically, that "I have got husband." A very nice system. And

when the girl grows up, puberty, then again another ceremony is taken.

That is almost like second marriage. The girl goes to her husband, to

live with her husband. This was the system.


730514SB.LA                    Lectures                 

Prabhupada: So here one of the most important points is surakrtam

bhuta-hatyam. Surakrtam means things becoming impure simply by

touching liquor. Liquor is so impure. Just like you have got a very

big pot of milk, but if you put one drop of wine in it, it becomes

immediately impure. You can analyze chemically--immediately impure.

That sura, liquor, has become our daily affair. We are so impure. And

bhuta-hatya, and killing of animals. The modern civilization means

large-scale arrangement for killing animals and large-scale

rangement for distilling liquor, especially in the Western…


…here it is said that surakrtam, a drop of wine makes the whole thing

impure. And liquor drinking is our daily business. So the example is

given that suppose here is one drop of wine, and the place has become

impure. So if you bring another gallon of wine and just sweep over it,

mop it with wine, that is not the process. You have to bring pure

water and wash with it. Then it will purify. You cannot say that "Wine

is also liquid. Why not cleanse it here by wine?" No.

   So the Vedic conception is completely different. The... According

to modern science, they put things into alcohol to sterilize. Is it


Svarupa Damodara: Put alcohol in things.

Prabhupada: Yes. But it becomes more impure. Anything you put into

alcohol, that becomes more impure, according to this. So there are so

many things. Our position jiva, is living entity, is pure by nature

because it is part and parcel of God, Krsna. So we have accumulated so

much, so many material things by which we have become impure. And

yajnaih. This bhuta-hatya. Bhuta-hatya is also recognized here as

sinful activities. As wine is sinful or impure--if not sinful, it is

impure--bhuta-hatya, killing of animal, is also sinful activities. So

you cannot counteract by performing yajna, because in the yajna there

is also another bhuta-hatya.

   So even there is no bhuta-hatya... That is called panca-suna-yajna,

five kinds of imperceptible sinful activities. Just like when we are

walking on the street, there are many ants and germs, they are being

killed. I do not know, I do not wish to kill, but they are being

killed. When you are igniting fire, in the fireplace, there are so

many small ants. So as soon as you ignite, all those small ants--you

cannot see--they die. Similarly, when you keep water, there are so

many microbes and other living entities. So as you press on it, they

die. Similarly, pestle and mortar. In India the system, they don't

purchase...Those who are rigid family, they do not purchase these

powdered spices. No. They bring whole spices and they smash it with

mortar and pestle. That is very nice. So doing that smashing work, you

kill so many animals. In breathing, you kill so many animals. In

drinking water, you kill so many animals. This is bhuta-hatya. You are

killing. This is not intentional. You do not know. Therefore in a

Vedic system there is prescription, panca-suna-yajna. Panca means

five, and suna means bhuta-hatya, or killing animals, suna.

Striya-suna-pana-dyuta. Suna. Suna means violence. So we prohibit

these four kinds of sinful life: killing of animals and illicit sex...

Striya, suna, and... Panca-suna. Yes... Striya-suna-pana. Pana means

intoxicants, and dyuta means gambling. So these are four kinds of

sinful activities. So out of that, suna is one. That is also divided

in many divisions, at least five. Willingly, we are not going to kill

anybody, but unwillingly... Therefore there is panca-suna-yajna. You

have to perform yajna every day to counteract the sinful reaction of

your imperceptible killings of animals. That's it. This is Vedic life…

…some time. This is atonement. If you have committed a murder, then you

also be hanged. These are the laws. When the king orders somebody to

be hanged on account of his committing murder, the king is not sinful.

King is helpful. King is helping that rascal to atone his murdering

activities. Otherwise, if he is not hanged, then next life, next time,

he will be put into difficulty. Next time he will have to become

animal. He will be slaughtered. These laws they do not know. Why these

animals are being slaughtered? There is some nature's law. They were

murderer or slaughterer in their past life as human being. Now they

have assumed, they have accepted a body to be slaughtered by the laws

of nature. When an animal is slaughtered in sacrifice, there is

mantra. The mantra is that... The animal slaughter in sacrifice is

recommended for the animal-eaters, not for all. Those who are...To restrict.

…   So restriction is required. Why? It is because it is bad. Nobody

restricts that "You don't manufacture capati." No. Because it is not

bad thing. There is no such law, that "You don't manufacture nice

foodstuff." No. That is very good. But when it is bad, then there is

restriction. Therefore there is restriction of sex life, there is

restriction of drinking wine, there is restriction of meat-eating, and

there is restriction of gambling. Because these things are bad. You

cannot become good by indulging in bad things. That is not possible.

The same thing. Just like you cannot clear muddy water by putting

another mud. That is not possible.  So the human life is meant for purification


730522SB.NY                    Lectures                 

   Generally, they worship God, needy artah artharthi. Artah means

diseased, artharthi means in need of money. People generally go to

church (or) temple when they are suffering from some ailments or need

of money, these two classes. Another two classes, jijnasuh jnani.

Jnani means who is after pure knowledge and jijnasuh means

inquisitive--what is the nature of God. These are, they are higher

section but they are not bhaktas. Just like there are many

philosophers, they also talk of God, but they are not bhaktas. But

because they are talking of God, they are getting some benefit.


730616SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

So to understand Krsna is not so easy thing. Manusyanam sahasresu. Out

of many millions of persons, all rascals and fools, animals, what they

will understand Krsna? Therefore Krsna personally says, manusyanam

sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye. Siddhi. Siddhi means perfection. All

over the world we are touring, all full of rascals and fools. Nobody

is trying to make his life perfect. What is that perfection? Paramam

siddhim. That perfection is,                      


To go back to home, back to Godhead, that is the highest perfection of

life. Nobody knows what is Godhead. Nobody knows how to go back to

Him. So to understand Krsna and to become a devotee of Krsna, it is

not very easy thing. Very, very difficult. But Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu, maha-vadanyavatara, He has distributed this Krsna science

and love of Krsna in such an easy way that by His mercy even a most

rude person can also understand, if He takes the mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.


750313SB.TEH                   Lectures                 

Prabhupada: Yes. He was going to punish the earth. And he (she) said,

"This is my duty. All the demons there are. I must restrict supply."

So these people, they do not know. They think that simply by

resolution in the Parliament they will make all, everything. And they

may become all rascals. This will not make the world happy. They will

simply deteriorate more and more. They do not know. Here it is said,

kamam vavarsa parjanyah. Bhagavan Krsna also said, annad bhavanti

bhutani. Krsna never says, "The factory will make the people healthy

and strong," never says. And these rascals are after factories. Then

how the people will be happy? Ugra-karma. Everyone will be unhappy,

dissatisfied, rogue, bachelor growth. Where Krsna has said that "Open

factories for economic development"? Nowhere you will find, neither in

the sastra... Here it is said that all economic development will be

complete simply by regular rainfall. Kamam vavarsa parjanyah. Kamam

means all necessities of life. They do not know. The modern people,

scientists, philosophers, politicians, they do not know this. Kamam.

Kamam means necessities of life. We have got so many things. But how

it will be supplied? It is clearly said, kamam vavarsa parjanyah. And

how parjanyah will be regular? Yajnad bhavati parjanyah. Where is that

program? Where is yajna? In the Kali-yuga other yajnas are very

difficult to perform. There is no money. There is no qualified

brahmana. Therefore this yajna... Yajnaih sankirtana-prayair yajanti

hi sumedhasah. Those who have got brain substance, not cow dung, they

will take this process, yajnaih. Let everyone chant Hare Krsna home to

home. Whatever they have got, all right. Just begin chanting. Just see

what happens. We are trying to introduce this chanting. But the

rascals will not take it. What can be done? There is no loss if they

chant Hare Krsna worldwide. Where is the loss? But still, they will

not. And everything can be had. Sarva-kama-dugha mahi. Mahi. Krsna, He

is... The mother... Krsna, how He has arranged this mahi? Everything

is coming. Actually you will find that the rose flower is coming, the

mine is coming, the gold is coming, the coal is coming, the petrol is

coming. Everything is there in the mahi. And who has arranged it? Just

see. Sarva-kama-dugha mahi. And if there is regular waterfall, then

you get everything supply. And by performing yajna, you get regular

waterfall, rainfall. And in this age all other types of yajna is not

possible. Kalau...


             harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam

          kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha

So introduce this. What is their loss? If everyone, home to home or

work to work, factory to factory... Let them... Let there be factory,

but chant Hare Krsna. Let all the factory members be engaged in

chanting and the... supply them prasadam. Just see. There will be no

more strike. There will be no more Communistic movement. Everything is

there, provided they take it. Everything will be all right. So this is

not a sentimental fanaticism, religious movement. This is scientific

movement for the good of the whole world. That we have to convince by

our character, by our behavior. Then people will accept it. They think

it is another type of religious... So religious means fanaticism. It

is not that. Just like they fought, the Mohammedans and the

Christians. There was fighting? What is that?

Nitai: The Holy Wars?

Parivrajakacarya: Crusades.

Prabhupada: Crusades. These Britishers created this religious fight

between Hindus and Muslims. Before that, there was no in the history,

religious fight, in the history of the whole India. The Mahabharata,

Kuruksetra fight was... That was political fight. That was not a

religious fight on the basis of that "You are Hindu. I am Muslim.

Therefore we must fight." There was no such fight. In the material

platform your interest, my interest, sometimes clash. There may be

fight. But why fight on religious, mean God consciousness? If everyone

is God conscious, where is the question of fight?


730620SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

 Sometimes inthe year 1931 or '32 I had a very severe tooth pain. So I was taken by

my servant in the jungle to some, this vaidya. They cured me, and the

dentist could not. I attended so many times to the dentist. I have got

my practical experience. And in the Ayurvedic literature there is

mention some drug, the root only if you touch here, the germs

collected in the teeth, they will come out in the corner of the teeth

some germs--sometimes it is itching; there is all germs--so they will

come out. Sometimes pains in the toe. All they are germs. The germ

theory is all right, but they want to cure these germs in different

way. But by nature's way there are so many drugs and roots and

creepers that can cure all the diseases.


730620SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

Personality of Godhead, there will be no more natural disturbances. I

have heard in 1900, 1898--I was born in 1896--so I have heard, I have

seen also, I remember, in Calcutta there was a very virulent type of

plague epidemic in 1898. So Calcutta became devastated. All people

practically left Calcutta. Daily hundreds and hundreds of people were

dying. I was one year old or one and a half year old. I have seen what

was happening, but there was plague epidemic. That I did not know. I,

later on, I heard from my parents. So one babaji, he organized

sankirtana, Hare Krsna sankirtana. When there was no other way, so he

organized sankirtana all over Calcutta. And in the, in sankirtana, all

people, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Parsi, everyone joined. And they

were coming, they were going road to road, street to street, entering

in every house. So that Mahatma Gandhi Road, 151, you have seen. The

sankirtana party we received very nicely. There was light, and I was

very small, I was also dancing, I can remember. Just like our small

children sometimes dances. I remember. I could see only up to the

knees of the persons who were joined. So the plague subsided. This is

a fact. Everyone who knows history of Calcutta, the plague was

subsided by sankirtana movement.

   Of course, we do not recommend that sankirtana should be used for

some material purpose, that is nama-aparadha, nama-aparadha. Shama sa

bhakti kriya (?) pramana. Sankirtana, you can utilize sankirtana for

some material purpose, but that is not allowed. That is nama-aparadha,

because nama, the holy name of Krsna, and Krsna, they are identical.

You cannot utilize Krsna for your personal, material benefit. That is

aparadha. Krsna is the Lord. You cannot engage the Lord for your


730620SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

Prabhupada: So sattvika-ahara... Because Krsna consciousness is on

the, above sattvika platform, above goodness... Suddha-sattva. Here in

the material platform, sattva-guna is sometimes contaminated by

rajo-guna and tamo-guna. But in the spiritual world there is simply

pure sattva-guna. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam. So vasudeva

platform. There Krsna takes birth; there Krsna is seen. When you come

to the suddha-sattva... Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate.

At that platform, you can deal with Krsna.

   So this devotional service is suddha-sattva platform. There, you

cannot bring in something contaminated which is material. Here,

everything should a be spiritual. Therefore, because we have taken the

vow of accepting Krsna consciousness, we cannot eat anything, although

they are meant for eating. But we cannot eat anything. That is


   Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)


730621SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

Prabhupada: So in the previous verse it has been described that nature

was favorable. The river, the hills, the mountains, forests,

vegetables, creepers, these are our natural surroundings. Animals...

Everyone was complete. It is a cooperation. So many living entities,

according to karma, we have got different bodies. Some has got the

human form of body, some has got the body of an animal, some has got

the body of a tree, creeper. Sometimes hills, mountains, also.

Everyone. Their business is cooperation. We can study from our own

body. There are different parts of the body, but it is a business of

cooperation. Hand, legs, eyes, ears, nose, they are all cooperating

for the upkeep of the body. Similarly, all living entities--may be in

different types of bodies--they are meant for cooperating in the

matter of serving the Supreme Lord, central point. (aside:) Just see


   So if the government or the chief of the executive power, the king,

is just to the point, dharmena, as it was said, "Abiding by the

religious principles, ruling over the country," then everything, even

natural elements, they become cooperative. They must become

cooperative. What is nature? Nature is also another energy of the

Supreme Personality of Godhead. So the nature is also working under

the direction of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.


                        mayadhyaksena prakrtih

                         suyate sa-caracaram

                         hetunanena kaunteya

                         jagad viparivartate


So Maharaja Yudhisthira's time, the cooperation was so complete that

everyone was free from anxiety, disease, calamities, natural



730621SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   So this is our position. We may be very great man in the estimation

of our friends and countrymen, but everyone is subjected to the

miserable condition of life. They cannot make any solution. That is

not possible. They have made a solution, big, big learned scholars,

just that Mr. Kotovsky said, "Swamiji, after death, there is no life.

Everything is finished." Unless they think like that, then life

becomes more horrible, full of anxieties. If they think of that there

is another life and there is punishment and reward, according to our

karma, then their life is very horrible. So just like the animals,

poor animal, sometimes facing enemy, close the eyes, as if there is no

enemy, so they do like that, close the eyes. Children, when there is

danger, they close the eyes. They have no other means to escape. So

these people, they close the eyes. "There is no life after death."

Otherwise they cannot accommodate.


730621SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

Prabhupada: Yes. Two years' time. So this is the... This body is made

of three dhatu, and misadjustment of these three things... If the

mucus is increased, the other two decrease. In this way disturbance is

created, and that is the cause of disease. Adhayo vyadhayah. So if

people remain completely in hygienic principle, as they are prescribed

in the sastras, just like rise early in the morning, take bath,

evacuate and chant Hare Krsna mantra... If you follow the rules and

regulation, then there will be no anxiety, no disease. People become

crazy when he is full of anxieties or disease. If he is happy in every

respect, then he does not become crazy, he does not become enemy. If

everyone is satisfied, then where is the chance of becoming your enemy

or my enemy? Everyone is satisfied.

   So in Maharaja Yudhisthira's time, the government, the government

was responsible also to keep people peaceful, without any anxiety.

That is government. Without any anxiety. And now the government means

full of anxieties. You do not know how to sleep peacefully at night.

You have to keep watchmen, just see, enemies are coming or not, with

torchlight. You see. This is our position, full of anxieties. Even we

cannot sleep at night peacefully. This is government. And here you

see, compare the government--no anxiety, no anxiety. Just compare. So

what is the use of this rascal government? The rascal government must

be there because we are rascals. You cannot complain against the

government. Because we select. It is the days of democracy. We elect

our representative. So why you should, I mean to say, blame the

government? You have created the government. You have sent your

representative, a rascal, another big rascal. You are rascal, and

another big rascal, you have voted; so how you can expect good

government? You send only big rascals. That's all.

   So there cannot be. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that

in the Kali-yuga, all the people will be rascals, sudras. Simply by

manipulation, if one gets vote, he captures the governmental power.

Sudra. He's a sudra. He is not a ksatriya like Maharaja Yudhisthira,

trained up ksatriya. He is a rascal, third-class man, fourth-class

man. He gets the vote and we give vote. So how we can be happy? How we

can be carefree or anxiety-free or disease-free? It is not possible.

Therefore if the people in general, they become Krsna conscious, they

become trained up in Krsna consciousness, they understand the value of

life, how to live, then they can send good representative. Krsna

conscious man. Then the government will be nice. Without becoming...

Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah. If people are not Krsna conscious,

their so-called qualification has no value. Kuto mahad-gunah. There

cannot be value. There cannot be any good qualification of a person

who is not Krsna conscious, who is not a devotee. This is our

conclusion. We have got some test tubes. We can study man. He may

become a very good scholar, very good politician, very big minister,

but we test whether he has got any sense of Krsna consciousness. If

he's not, immediately I understand that "Here is a rascal number one."

That's all. We have got test tube, how much he is advanced in Krsna

consciousness. If he's not, then he is grouped immediately in four

groups: duskrtina, means constantly committing sinful activities;

mudha, rascal; naradhama, lowest of the mankind; mayaya apahrta-jnana,

although educated with high degrees, his knowledge has been taken

away; asuram bhavam asritah, and demon.

Immediately we classify, "Here is a rascal number one, lowest of the

mankind," or "always engaged in sinful activities," or "whatever

education he has got, that is useless, because his real knowledge..."

   Just like Professor Kotovsky, such a big professor, he says, "There

is no life after death." He's a rascal number one. What is the meaning

of this education? He does not know that the soul is eternal, and

therefore Bhagavad-gita teaches first, dehino 'smin yatha dehe

kaumaram yauvanam... Na hanyate hanyamane sarire. "First of all

understand this: soul is eternal; you are eternal; you do not die,

after the annihilation..." This is the first education. And these

rascals, they say there is no life after death. So how much educated

they are you can understand. They are all rascals. And you may open

big, big colleges, institution, providing some rascal professor,

rascal student, and beg the whole life, and sacrifice everything. It

is useless. Srama eva hi kevalam, simply wasting time.


                     dharmah svanusthitah pumsam

                        visvaksena-kathasu yah

                        notpadayed yadi ratim

                         srama eva hi kevalam

Srama eva hi kevalam. You can do your duties very nicely, very good,

dharmah svanusthitah, but if you do not develop your, I mean to say,

attachment for Krsna... Vasudeva-katha rucih. "Oh, here krsna-katha is

going on. Topics on Krsna is going on. Let me hear it." Just like

here. We are talking of Krsna; nobody is coming. Nobody is coming.

Only few selected. Vasudeva-katha rucih. There is no taste for hearing

krsna-katha. So such kind of education, advancement of civilization,

is srama eva hi kevalam, simply wasting time. And if you waste your

time in such foolish activity, then there will be anxiety, there will

be disease, there will be enemies, there will be

disturbance--everything, one after another, one after another. Natural

disturbance, disturbance by other living creatures, disturbance by

your body. So this world will become hell. This is the position.

   So just compare the present governmental situation and the time...

A king is supposed to be responsible for the citizen's peaceful life,

no anxiety, no disease. Adhayo vyadhayah. That is king. Just like one

brahmana approached Lord Ramacandra that "In the presence of father

the son has died. You are responsible. There must be something wrong

in Your kingdom." His son died. That is natural, that son lives,

father dies. This is natural death. "And what is this? The father is

living and son is dying?" So king was so much responsible, even the

death must be systematic. There should be no anxiety. There should be

no disease. There should be no scarcity, no famine, no natural

disturbance. This is government. This is government. Just try to

understand the ideal government during Maharaja Yudhisthira's time.

730622SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   Just like the son inherits the quality of the father, similarly...

We are supposed to be sons of the Supreme Person. Therefore, in minute

quantity we have got all the qualities of God. Not all. Seventy-eight

percent. In very minute quantity. That is our perfection. If we revive

godly qualities seventy-eight percent, in minute quantity, that is our

perfection. That is there, already there. Simply it is covered by this

material energy. Otherwise everything is there. So the feelings of

affection, there is also in Krsna.

…   Therefore we have to get free from obstacles. Sattva-guna, we have

to go above the sattva-guna, suddha-sattva. Then again we revive our

original position of joyfulness. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati

na kanksati. This is the joyfulness: no lamentation, no hankering. We

hanker after something which we want, and we lament for something

which we lose. Here there are two business: something gaining and

something losing. Just like businessmen. They have got two businesses:

either to make profit or to lose. At the end of the year they

calculate, "Whether we are loser or gainer?" But in the spiritual

world there is no such thing as to gain or as to lose. There is

nothing... Absolute. That is Absolute. That idea we haven't got just

now. But that is the nature of the spiritual world. There is no

question of loss, nor there is any question of gain. Simply ananda,

ananda, pleasure. Pleasure means because there is no loss.

Anandambudhi-vardhanam. There is ananda, and ananda ambudhi. Ambudhi

means the ocean.


730622SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

 But whateverKrsna is speaking about Himself in the Bhagavad-gita, if one hundredth

part, one percent you can understand, then your life is successful.

Vedic knowledge. That is Vedic knowledge…

. We should try to followthe footsteps of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He was very strict. No womancould approach Him. They were allowed to offer obeisances from distant

place. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was very strict about .. Even in

His grhastha life He was very strict. He would not play any joke with

any woman except His wife. And that also, once He joked with His wife,

not with any other woman. So He was so strict. Sri Caitanya


730622SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   So practically, at the present moment, the whole world is visayi.

But this line, Krsna consciousness line, is so transcendental that one

has to give up this visayi idea. Visaya chariya se rase majiya mukhe

bolo hari hari. We chant "Hari, Hari," but actually, "Hari, Hari," we

can chant "Hari, Hari" only when we give up visaya. Visaya chariya se

rase majiya. Otherwise "Hari, Hari" is not purely chanted. Therefore

there are ten kinds of offenses we have to give up. Suddha-nama. When

we chant pure Hare Krsna maha-mantra, then we are elevated to the

platform of transcendental love. Otherwise we can attain up to

liberation. Not on the platform of loving. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu was

very strict about visayi and stri-sangi. Caitanya Mahaprabhu was asked

how to, what is the business of a Vaisnava. He summarized in two

lines: asat-sanga tyaga, ei vaisnava acara. Asat-sanga tyaga, to give

up the association of asat. Asat means materialistic. So who is asat?

Now, asat eka stri-sangi and krsna-abhakta. Those who are too much

attached for material enjoyment, they are asat. And one who is not

devotee of Krsna, he is also asat. So we have to give up the company

of these kind of people, who are too much materially attached and is

not devotee of Krsna. If we can avoid these two persons, then we can

be fixed up in devotional service.


730625SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   This is the crucial point of advancement in human life. Tyaja

durjana-samsargam. Try to avoid. Not try; must. You must avoid the

association of the materialistic persons. Materialistic person means

those who are after money and woman. That's all. They are

materialistic. Those persons, simply hankering after money and woman,

they are materialistic. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has advised to

associate with this class of men, hankering after money and women, it

is better..., death is better, preferred, than to associate. When He

was requested to see King Prataparudra... Because he was king, he's

supposed to be always in association with money and women. He refused

to see him: "No, I cannot see the King." When He refused to see, He

quoted one verse: bhava-sagarasya, niskincanasya bhava-sagarasya.

Niskincanasya jigamisor bhava-sagarasya.

   People do not know what is bhava-sagara. They do not know even. But

in Vedic literature, this is the first instruction, how to get out of

this bhava-sindhu, bhava-sagara, material ocean.


730626SB.MAY                   Lectures                 

   So how do we explain it? It is very simple thing. Suppose I am

here, and you are here. So you may be better than me. Nobody is equal.

You don't find. We don't find. In every respect, two bodies equal, you

won't find. In bodily features, in qualities, in action, in thinking,

in feeling. All you'll find varieties. Var... That is... Variety is

enjoyment. If I agree with you in every respect, then where is

varieties? Just like if you are given a nice dish of foodstuff.

Somebody says, "Give me this one." Another says, "Give me this one."

So variety of taste. Although all sweetmeats are made of the same

ingredients, sugar and yogurt or curd, but somebody says, "Give me

this rasagulla," somebody, "The sandesa..." Somebody says, "Give me

panthva(?)." They're made of the same ingredient, but it is different


   So you cannot neglect these varieties of taste. That is enjoyment.

Anandamayo 'bhyasat. We are all anandamaya, joyful. Therefore there

must be varieties. Without varieties, there is no joy. Simply

hackneyed, one thing, "Brahman, Brahman, Brahman," nobody likes it.

They keep with "Brahman, Brahman," they fall down or they again come

to the explanation of this Bhagavatam. I have seen so many Mayavadi

sannyasis. By "Brahman, Brahman," they could not attract audience.

Then come to Bhagavata reading and explains in nonsense way all the

Bhagavata, Mayavadi. But they come to... Because Bhagavata is full of

varieties. But they explain in their own way. I have seen one big

Mayavadi sannyasi, explaining Bhagavata that "God became pleased..."

in some stanza. "So if you become pleased, then God becomes pleased."

This was his explanation. If I am pleased by drinking wine, then God

is also pleased? This is his explanation. Yes. I'm a grand debauch. By

debauchery I am pleased. So God is also pleased by my debauchery.

Because God and I, the same. This is their explanation.

   So it is very difficult. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given

one line of Vaisnava behavior: asat-sanga tyaga ei vaisnava acara.

Simply to give up these rascals' association. The rascal means the

Mayavadi, karmi, jnani, yogi, all they are rascals. It is our open

declaration. So we have to give up the company of these rascals. If we

actually serious about advancing in Krsna consciousness, we should not

mix with them. We should not even invite them. Neither we shall take

their foodstuff, accept their foodstuff. Dadati pratigrhnati bhunkte

bhojayate ca... Guhyam akhyati prcchati ca. Bhunkte bhojayate caiva

sad-vidham priti-laksanam. Priti. If you want to make one friends,

then these six kinds of dealings must be there. Dadati. Dadati means

there must be... One must give something to the other, a friend. Just

like I am friend. You are friend. I give you something. In return you

give me something. Dadati pratigrhnati. Guhyam akhyati prcchati ca. I

open my mind to you, you also inquire confidential things from me. Or

I inquire. Guhyam akhyati prcchati ca. And then bhunkte bhojayate.

Whatever you give me, I eat. And I give you, you eat. By these six

kinds of dealing, priti, love increases.


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vaidha-avaidha. Vaidha means regular, according to sastra. According

to sastra means restricted. Sastra restricts. Sastra means sas-dhatu.

Sas-dhatu means sasana, ruling. From sas-dhatu, sastra has come,

sastra, weapon, has come. And sas-dhatu, from sas-dhatu, sisya also

comes. These words are derived from sas-dhatu. Sastra, sastra, sasana.

Sasana means ruling. Sanskrit is very nice language. From one verbal

root, you can manufacture so many words; therefore it is very

difficult to make Sanskrit dictionary. It is very difficult. The

so-called Sanskrit dictionaries available in the market, you won't

find all the words. It is not possible. Because so many words are

manufactured by one dhatu. How many they will add

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