Sadhana Bhakti-from start to finish-and finally, purification, self perfection
Prabhupada: Prahlada Maharaja underwent so much persecution. He was
never disturbed, because he was confident that "Krsna will give me
protection. Never mind." That is another position. Maha-bhagavata. We
are kanistha-adhikaris. We have to worship Deity.
arcayam eva haraye
pujam yah sraddhayehate
na tad-bhaktesu canyesu
sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah
We are in the prakrta stage. We cannot go to the stage of
The so-called idol, He went to be witness. He came from Vrndavana to
Cuttack. So "idol
worship" is they say. But devotee... Just like people are coming by
thousands to see Jagannatha. Do they come to see idol? Wooden
Jagannatha? They come to see real Jagannatha, Bhagavan Krsna.
Otherwise why they will spend so much money and take so much trouble
and come here? The atheists may say, "How foolish they are. They are
coming here to see a wooden figure and spending so much money." That
is the statement of the atheist.
But a devotee comes to see--"Krsna is
here." Just like
Caitanya Mahaprabhu saw--immediately fainted. So
there are two visions. Therefore it is forbidden. Arcye visnau
sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih. So the atheist
class, they see, "Here is a wooden... Oh, what is the Jagannatha made
of? Wood or stone?" They're seeing wood and stone. Similarly,
Vaisnavas also they're seeing, "a American," "European." They are
blind. They have no capacity to... Therefore sastra says, "Don't think
like that, naraki. If you think like that, then you become hellish."
Because he has no vision, he's warned only, that "Don't do this. It is
very dangerous." Arcye visnau sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir vaisnave
jati-buddhih. "Don't do it." Because he cannot see as it is, he has
not elevation, but he is warned, "Don't think like that."
Kanistha-adhikari, he has no
such vision. Therefore he's warned, "Do
not do this." Just like a
child. He does not know that to touch fire
is dangerous. He's warned, "Do not do
it. It will be..." So similarly,
this is warning, "Don't do this." Therefore sastra is there. Yah
sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate: "Without
sastra, if one does anything,"
na sa siddhim avapno..., "he'll
never be perfect." So sastra-vidhi we
have to follow. Then we come to
.... So divya-jnana, transcendental knowledge... If you
don't accept a spiritual master, how you'll get transcen... You'll be
taught here and there, here and there, and waste time. Waste time for
the teacher and waste your valuable time. Therefore you have to be
guided by an expert spiritual master. Read it.
Prabhupada: Siksanam. We have to learn. If you don't learn, how you'll
make progress? Then?
Pradyumna: Visrambhena guroh seva. "One should serve the guru,
Prabhupada: With great respect, with reverence and respect. Then?
Prabhupada: And you must see that what you are doing, that is
according to the principle which all other sadhus and devotees do.
have tilaka, and you say, "I have no tilaka." That is not
Sadhu-marganugamanam. They have kanthi. You say, "I can
it." That is not sadhu-marganugamanam. So, from very beginning,
you disobey, then how you'll make progress? Then?
Prabhupada: Sad-dharma-prccha. You have to inquire from guru how
make progress. That is sad-dharma. Asad-dharma and sad-dharma. Sad
gamaya, asato ma: "Don't remain in darkness. Make progress." Om tat
sat. So sad-dharma-prccha. Then?
Pradyumna: Then bhogadi-tyagah krsnasya hetave.
Prabhupada: Ah. For Krsna
you have to give up sense gratification. No
illicit sex, no
meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling--you have to
adopt so many things,
tyaga. Anartha-nivrtti. These are anartha,
unnecessary things. Do you think if you do not smoke, you die?
Unnecessary. What is absolutely
necessary, you accept. So
bhogadi-tyagah krsnarthe. Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya: "You
created so many unnecessary things. Give up." So that is not
immediately, but it is possible. Adau sraddha tatah
sadhu-sangah. The sadhu-sanga means associate with sadhu, guru. If we
have sraddha that "I shall now become Krsna conscious"--this is
sraddha, "It is very nice"--then
sadhu-sanga: those who are actually
Krsna conscious, you
associate with him. Then bhajana-kriya. Then
bhajana, that rise early in the morning, chant
Hare Krsna mantra, take
your bath, and so many things,
bhajana-kriya... Then anartha-nivrttih syat. Then all these
will be finished automatically. And if you do not do these
first three, the fourth will not come, fourth stage, anartha... And
after anartha-nivrttih syat, then nistha, firm faith. Then anartha,
tato rucih. Then taste. Then you get taste. Adau sraddha tatah...,
anartha-nivrttih syat, tato nistha tato rucih. Taste. Just like you
have got a taste for a food. You cannot give it up. "I want this."
Ruci. Athasaktih. Then you become attached. Tato bhavah. Sadhakanam
ayam premnah pradurbhave bhavet kramah. This is the subject there.(?)
Pradyumna: Adau sraddha?
Prabhupada: This is the next, I think. Sraddha is the
beginning--faith. That faith means firm faith. Just like Kaviraja
Gosvami says, sraddha-sabde visvasa kahe sudrdha niscaya. That is
faith, fixed-up, firm faith. Krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya.
Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. When you
have got firm faith in this---"Yes! If I surrender to Krsna, all other
dharmas will be performed automatically"--then that is called faith.
In the beginning, if you have no faith, where is the beginning? Then
adau sraddha tatah sadhu-
sango 'tha bhajana-kriya
tato 'nartha-nivrttih syat
tato nistha rucis tatah
athasaktis tato bhavas
sadhakanam ayam premnah
pradurbhave bhavet kramah
Prabhupada: Pradurbhave bhavet kramah. This is
So everything is there. We should take advantage and
become perfect. And this is the
chance of becoming perfect, the human
of life. If we miss it--finished. Nivartante mrtyu-samsara...
go to the cycle of birth. Where is guarantee I am not going to
be a dog? Who can check it? Nobody can. Nature's law is very strong.
Karanam guna-sango 'sya sad-asad-janma-yonisu.
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