ONLY MAHA-BHAGAVATA IS DIKSA GURU- Reply to Rocana das

May 16, 2014 in Articles, Mahesh Raja, other Prabhupada anugas

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ONLY MAHA-BHAGAVATA IS DIKSA GURU: Srila Prabhupada is OUR Diksa Guru For As Long as His Books Are On The Planet

Reply to Rocana’s article “A Ritvik Smokescreen

By Mahesh Raja and Prabhupadanugas

A) If you are NOT on Transcendental platform you CAN NOT give TRANSCENDENTAL Knowledge.

B) Madhyama means MIDDLE stage he is the RECEPIENT of Diksa whereas the Mahabhagavata is the Spiritual Master who TRANSFERS  Krsna in the heart of Madhyama Adhikari thus Diksa is described GRAPHICALLY SB10.2.18. And  Antya lila 4.192 – 4.194.

C) Madhyama can NOT be a Diksa Guru as that would be OFFENSIVE chanting – means his spiritual life is FINISHED!

Purport, Nectar of Instruction 5

One should NOT become a spiritual master UNLESS he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari.

The 3rd Offence in chanting is to disobey the Spiritual Master so  if one becomes a spiritual master without being on Uttama Adhikari he will be committing offense 

 

NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided

The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) To disobey the orders of the spiritual master.

Lectures: BG 7.1 – Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972 : 721213BG.AHM :  The madhyama-adhikārī should not touch the demons. Because maybe, he may turn again, be demon. Therefore one should be very careful to associate with the demons.

D) Kanistha is a MATERIALLY CONTAMINATED hence he is unfit to give Diksa

So how can we establish that Kanistha does NOT give diksa?

Kanistha is a QUALIFIED Brahmana. But even such a QUALIFIED Brahmana is in MATERIAL CONTAMINATION. And because he has MATERIAL CONTAMINATION he does NOT have Transcendental Knowledge. What you do NOT have you can NOT give. And it is Transcendental Knowledge that frees one from ALL MATERIAL CONTAMINATION.

Definition of Diksa:

Madhya 15.108 The Lord Accepts Prasada at the House of Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya

Srila Jiva Gosvami explains diksa in his Bhakti-sandarbha (283):

divyam jnanam yato dadyat kuryat papasya sanksayam tasmad dikseti sa prokta desikais tattva-kovidaih

“Diksa is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity. A person expert in the study of the revealed scriptures knows this process as diksa.”

Madhya 4.111 Sri Madhavendra Puri’ s Devotional Service Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.

So here we see from above definition of Diksa quotes:

D1) Transcendental Knowledge awakened, initiated

D2) becomes freed from all material contamination; vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity

Now ask a simple question HOW can a Brahmana(Kanistha) who is NOT freed from MATERIAL CONTAMINATION GIVE DIKSA -BY WHICH- ONE BECOMES FREED FROM **ALL** MATERIAL CONTAMINATION?

Just take a look at how contradictory and stupid this looks:

Q1) HOW can a Brahmana (Kanistha) who is HIMSELF material contaminated free another person from **ALL** MATERIAL CONTAMINATION?

SB 9.19.25 P King Yayati Achieves Liberation The word vidhuta, meaning “cleansed,” is very significant. Everyone in this material world is contaminated (karanam guna-sango ‘sya). Because we are in a material condition, we are contaminated either by sattva-guna, by rajo-guna or by tamo-guna. Even if one becomes a qualified brahmana in the mode of goodness (sattva-guna), he is still materially contaminated. One must come to the platform of suddha-sattva, transcending the sattva-guna. Then one is vidhuta-trilinga, cleansed of the contamination caused by the three modes of material nature.

Q2) If a Brahmana(Kanistha) had Transcendental Knowledge then why is contaminated by goodness(sattva-guna)?

Diksa is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity.

Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination

Q3) So HOW can a Kanistha(Brahmana) who HIMSELF is material contaminated does NOT have Transcendental Knowledge give another person Transcendental Knowledge to free him?

Common-sense: What you do NOT have you CAN NOT give to others.

770214r2.may Conversations Prabhupada: Vaisnava is not so easy. The varnasrama-dharma should be established to become a Vaisnava. It is not so easy to become Vaisnava. Hari-sauri: No, it’s not a cheap thing. Prabhupada: Yes. Therefore this should be made. Vaisnava, to become Vaisnava, is not so easy. If Vaisnava, to become Vaisnava is so easy, why so many fall down, fall down? It is not easy. The sannyasa is for the highest qualified brahmana. And simply by dressing like a Vaisnava, that is… fall down. Hari-sauri: So the varnasrama system is like for the kanisthas, Kanistha-adhikari. Prabhupada: Kanistha? Hari-sauri: When one is only on the platform of neophyte. Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Kanistha-adhikari, yes. Hari-sauri: Varnasrama system is beneficial. Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari means he must be a brahmana. That is kanistha-adhikari. The spiritual life, kanistha-adhikari, means he must be a qualified brahmana. That is kanistha. What is esteemed as very high position in the material world, brahmana, that is kanistha-adhikari. arcayam eva haraye pujam yah sraddhayehate na tad-bhaktesu canyesu sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah The brahmana means from the material stage gradually he is elevated to the spiritual stage. And below the brahmana there is no question of Vaisnava. Hari-sauri: No question of? Prabhupada: Vaisnavism.

760206mw.may Conversations Dayananda: But what about the persons who may be a little bit devoted but who have not achieved that unalloyed devotion? Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari. They are not devotees, but they are called bhaktabhasa. There is some signs of bhakti. Actually they are not bhakta. Bhaktabhasa. Abhasa. Abhasa means a simple, a little light. Hrdayananda: So devotee really means one who has love for Krsna. Prabhupada: Yes, unalloyed, without any condition. Anyabhilasita-sunyam, zero, all other, that “I am this, I am that, I am jnani, I am yogi, I am karmi, I am minister, I am king”–all these are thinking like that, they’re all nonsense. “I am servant of Krsna”–that is greatness. Jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa. That is self-realization, atma-tattvam.

Madhya 20.59 Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Instructs Sanatana Gosvami in the Science PURPORT This verse is spoken by Prahlada Maharaja in Srimad-Bhagavatam (7.9.10). A brahmana is supposed to be qualified with twelve qualities. As stated in the Mahabharata:

dharmas ca satyam ca damas tapas ca amatsaryam hris titiksanasuya yajnas ca danam ca dhrtih srutam ca vratani vai dvadasa brahmanasya

“A brahmana must be perfectly religious. He must be truthful, and he must be able to control his senses. He must execute severe austerities, and he must be detached, humble and tolerant. He must not envy anyone, and he must be expert in performing sacrifices and giving whatever he has in charity. He must be fixed in devotional service and expert in the knowledge of the Vedas. These are the twelve qualifications for a brahmana.”

Bhagavad-gita describes the brahminical qualities in this way:

samo damas tapah saucam ksantir arjavam eva ca jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam

“Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness–these are the qualities by which the brahmanas work.” (Bg. 18.42)

In the Muktaphala-tika, it is said:

samo damas tapah saucam ksanty-arjava-virakta yah jnana-vijnana-santosah satyastikye dvisad gunah

“Mental equilibrium, sense control, austerity, cleanliness, tolerance, simplicity, detachment, theoretical and practical knowledge, satisfaction, truthfulness and firm faith in the Vedas are the twelve qualities of a brahmana.”

730828BG.LON Lectures So first of all, we have to become brahmana. Then Vaisnava. Brahmana simply knows that “I am spirit soul,” aham brahmasmi. Brahma janati iti brahmana. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma. By such knowledge one becomes prasannatma. Means relieved. As you feel relief… When there is burden on your head, and the burden is taken away you feel relieved, similarly, this ignorance that “I am this body” is a great burden, a burden upon us. So when you get out of this burden, then you feel relieved. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma. Means when actually one understands that “I am not this body; I am soul,” then he has to work so hard for maintaining this body, so he gets relief that “Why I am working so hard for this lump of material things? Let me execute my real necessity of life, spiritual life.” That is great relief. That is great relief. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati. The relief means there is hankering, no more lamentation. These are the brahma-bhutah.

SB 1.2.20 P Divinity and Divine Service The very same thing is confirmed herein in the above words. No ordinary man, or even one who has attained success in human life, can know scientifically or perfectly the Personality of Godhead. Perfection of human life is attained when one can understand that he is not the product of matter but is in fact spirit. And as soon as one understands that he has nothing to do with matter, he at once ceases his material hankerings and becomes enlivened as a spiritual being. This attainment of success is possible when one is above the modes of passion and ignorance, or, in other words, when one is actually a brahmana by qualification. A BRAHMANA IS THE SYMBOL OF SATTVA-GUNA, OR THE MODE OF GOODNESS. AND OTHERS, WHO ARE NOT IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS, ARE EITHER KSATRIYAS, VAISYAS, SUDRAS OR LESS THAN THE SUDRAS. THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE IS THE HIGHEST STAGE OF HUMAN LIFE BECAUSE OF ITS GOOD QUALITIES. SO ONE CANNOT BE A DEVOTEE UNLESS ONE AT LEAST QUALIFIES AS A BRAHMANA. The devotee is already a brahmana by action. But that is not the end of it. AS REFERRED TO ABOVE, SUCH A BRAHMANA HAS TO BECOME A VAISNAVA IN FACT TO BE ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL STAGE. A PURE VAISNAVA IS A LIBERATED SOUL AND IS TRANSCENDENTAL EVEN TO THE POSITION OF A BRAHMANA. IN THE MATERIAL STAGE EVEN A BRAHMANA IS ALSO A CONDITIONED SOUL BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IN THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE THE CONCEPTION OF BRAHMAN OR TRANSCENDENCE IS REALIZED, SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME LORD IS LACKING. ONE HAS TO SURPASS THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND REACH THE VASUDEVA STAGE TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD KRSNA.

Rocana: Mahesh does not make a distinction between the issue of the qualifications of a bona fide spiritual master, and the fact that sastra acknowledges that there also exist kanishta and madhyam gurus. He does not distinguish between the qualifications of the uttama diksa, and the range of possibility the candidate has for the sorts of guru he might choose for himself, which includes not only uttama-diksa.

Mahesh: The “range of possibility” is non-existent.  By definition ONLY Mahabhagavata is Diksa guru as discribed in CC Madhya 24.330

MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām sarveṣām eva lokānām asau pūjyo yathā hariḥ

ahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ

“The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class.”

The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. ….When one has attained the topmost position of MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.

Rocana das is trying to juggle OUT of this in the hope that Kanistha is also some sort of Diksa guru.

Note: When Krsna comes into the heart of sincere soul AT THE STAGE OF MADHYAMA ADHIKARI BY DIKSA FROM MAHABHAGAVATA he SEES Krsna and his  SVARUPA is revealed in the heart. Kanistha can NOT transfer Krsna into your heart. Madhyama is A RECEPIENT.

69-01-22. Letter: Vilasavigraha

In regard to your next question, self realization means God realization, and God realization means self realization. JUST LIKE TO SEE THE SUN MEANS TO SEE ONESELF, AND TO SEE ONESELF MEANS TO SEE THE SUN. SELF REALIZATION DEPENDS COMPLETELY UPON GOD REALIZATION, OR ELSE IT IS NOT COMPLETE. ONE MUST KNOW HIS RELATIONSHIP TO THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH TO FULLY KNOW HIS POSITION.

Note: Srila Prabhupada gives Divya-jnana(DIKSA). Divya means TRANSCENDENTAL and Jnana means KNOWLEDGE Hrde means heart and Prokasito means revealed just as in prakasa – manifested Krsna becomes manifest in the heart of the Pure Devotee.

760711CC.NY Lectures Prabhupada: Divya-jnana hrde prokasito. What is that divya-jnana? Divya-jnana is that we are all servant of Krsna, and our only business is to serve Krsna. Divya-jnana. This is divya-jnana. It is not difficult at all. Simply we have… We have become servant of so many things–servant of society, servant of community, servant of country, servant of wife, servant of children, servant of dog and so many. “Now let me become servant of Krsna.” This is divya-jnana. Diksa. Diksa means from this divya-jnana. That is di. And ksa means ksapayati, expands.

When at the stage of Madhyama Adhikari one is RECEPIENT of THAT Diksa in the HEART from SRILA PRABHUPADA he becomes a SERVANT OF KRSNA. He relishes a particular mellow (Rasa) of his relationship with Krsna. This point HE SEES KRSNA and HIS RELATIONSHIP (svarupa) is established. So it is not so CHEAP to be Diksa guru.

Madhya 8.83 Talks Between Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Ramananda Raya The purport in presenting this verse necessitates explaining the comparative positions of the transcendental mellows known as santa, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhurya. All these rasas, or mellows, are situated on the transcendental platform. Pure devotees take shelter of one of them and thus progress in spiritual life. Actually one can take shelter of such spiritual mellows only when one is completely uncontaminated by material attachment. When one is completely free from material attachment, the feelings of the transcendental mellows are awakened in the heart of the devotee. That is svarupa-siddhi, the perfection of one’s eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord. Svarupa-siddhi, the eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord, may be situated in one of the transcendental mellows.

Note: When Krsna is TRANSFERRED FROM Pure devotees HEART to another Pure devotee then there is DIKSA. Divya jnana revealtion of ones CONSTITUTIONAL positon Svarupa is UNDERSTOOD. This may take many many many births — NOT so cheap. This is why In Guru Puja to Srila Prabhupada we sing Janme janme prabhu sei:

760805BG.PAR Lectures Prabhupada: Yes, that arrangement will be done, you go on with your business. We are singing this song daily. Why do you forget? Cakhu-dan dilo jei **janme janme prabhu sei**. ONE WHO HAS OPENED THE EYES, **HE’LL REMAIN MY MASTER LIFE AFTER LIFE**.

Note: Srila Prabhupada is WITH US TO GUIDE US through difficult journey of transmigration cycle to attaining Back to Godhead IF we follow him. Bilvamangal Thakura’s Spiritual master came thru a prostitute to deliver him so Srila Prabhupada is also SO POWERFUL to help us:

SB 3.15.24 P Description of the Kingdom of God IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK TO GODHEAD IN ONE LIFE, but in the human form one should at least understand the goal of life and begin Krsna consciousness.

Note: A MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD.** THIS IS DIKSA**.

Antya 4.192 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri:

DĪKṢĀ-KĀLE bhakta kare ātma-samarpaṇa sei-kāle kṛṣṇa tāre kare ātma-sama

“At the time of initiation, when a devotee fully surrenders unto the service of the Lord, Kṛṣṇa accepts him to be as good as Himself.

Antya 4.193 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri: “When the devotee’s body is thus transformed into spiritual existence, the devotee, in that transcendental body, renders SERVICE to the lotus feet of the Lord.

Antya 4.194 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri: “‘The living entity who is subjected to birth and death, when he gives up all material activities dedicating his life to Me for executing My order, and thus acts according to My direction, AT THAT TIME HE REACHES THE PLATFORM OF IMMORTALITY, AND BECOMES FIT TO ENJOY THE SPIRITUAL BLISS OF EXCHANGE OF LOVING MELLOWS WITH ME.’

NoI 5: In order to intelligently apply the sixfold loving reciprocations mentioned in the previous verse, one must select proper persons with careful discrimination. Srila Rupa Gosvami therefore advises that we should meet with the Vaisnavas in an appropriate way, according to their particular status. In this verse he tells us how to deal with three types of devotees–the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and uttama-adhikari.

The kanistha-adhikari is a neophyte who has received the hari-nama initiation from the spiritual master and is trying to chant the holy name of Krsna. One should respect such a person within his mind as a kanistha-vaisnava.

A MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD. The madhyama-adhikari should be considered to be situated MIDWAY in devotional service.

The uttama-adhikari, or highest devotee, is one who is very advanced in devotional service. An uttama-adhikari is not interested in blaspheming others, his heart is completely clean, and he has attained the realized state of unalloyed Krsna consciousness. According to Srila Rupa Gosvami, the association and service of such a maha-bhagavata, or perfect Vaisnava, are most desirable.s to act for everyone’s welfare.

Note: in this Srila Prabhupada makes a point of Initiation as a formality this is different from Madhyama Adhikaris receiving Diksa

761016iv.cha Conversation Interviewer:  Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do that?  PrabhupadaWell, initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge. (break) …knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing. Read the rest of this entry →

Two brothers and a sister take Vaisnava initiation from Srila Prabhupada

September 2, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

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Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
 
 
Today Sept 1st in Vancouver BC Canada, at the ashram of Navadvipa  das and his family, many
devotees attended the fire sacrifice and initiation ceremony of his  children Ram das, laxsman das and their sister Radrarani devi dasi. All were  given first initiation by his Grace Yasoda Nandan Prabhu, on behalf of Srila  Prabhupada. He is  from LA Calif.
 
It was a total success. Why? Because this family follows the rules and  regulations laid down by Srila
Prabhupada, namely 4 reg’s, chanting 16 rounds minimum daily and rising for  mongol arotk and the entire
morning program.  Therefore there is spiritual potency present. And  their devotional service does not end there. As many know, this family is  musically inclined, well trained, and have been asked to lead kirtan at many a  function.
 
They began holding home/ashram programs some 8 months ago and now people  are asking to be put on their temple list for Sunday feast donors at  $100 each. And what a feast it was!!
 I was even told that one of the local “Iskcon leaders” came by , saw  a blank spot on that list and asked if he could also donate for one Sunday  !
 
So it is happening, here and all over the world for those who follow the  instructions of His Divine Grace
A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada had a dream once  and he told us that Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu came to him in this dream and said  He was withdrawing his mercy from the Gaudiya Matha and giving it to Iskcon.  That was when Srila Prabhupada was physically present. Things have now changed.  Now it can be truthfully said, that Mahaprabhu is withdrawing His mercy from  Iskcon (because they also do not follow the spiritual progam any longer) and He  Caitanya is now giving His mercy to devotees like this family and other like it  worldwide. 
 
 
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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Bogus gurus-all you wanted to know-SP

August 18, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

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Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
 
Below we have two separate articles I compiled over time. And they both go  together
very well. The first one Srila Prabhupada explains a few,  very important points”
 
1.accept a guru who is infallible
2.if you dont get a qualified guru, then everything is bogus.
3.if you dont find such a guru, that means Krsna is not pleased with  you
or you are not serious enough.
4. guru must be accepted from highest order-paramahamsa order
5. who has been cheated by bogus gurus? He says “practically  everyone”
 
The second section deals with these points:
1. if one receives a mantra from a bogus guru-it has no effect
2.not only is this mantra useless, but your deity worship is the same
3.series of quotes which explain how the bogus guru AND his disciples go to  hell
 
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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■761003SB.VRN                    Lectures                   214022/530501 guru… Sisyas te ‘ham sadhi mam prapannam: “Now, Krsna, I  accept You as my guru. Not as friend.” Because friendly talking is useless  waste of time. He accepted Him as guru. When guru speaks, you cannot  argue. That is not the process. You should accept a guru who is  infallible. Otherwise it is useless. He accepted guru Krsna because Krsna  is infallible. If we accept guru, a bogus guru, then it is no  benefit. Guru means Krsna’s representative. Not that  everyone can be guru.  

 
720911rc.arl                 Conversations                 332063/530501 Prabhupada: Just like Dhruva Maharaja.He was advised by  his mother that “If you go to the forest you can see God.” So he went there. But  when he was very serious, then Krsna sent him Narada Muni. So if you are  actually serious about Krsna, then Krsna will send you some of His  representative and he will take charge of you. That is the process. If you  do not find a guru, that means Krsna is not yet pleased, either you are not  serious.
 
720629rc.sd                  Conversations                 331324/530501 Devotee: What determines, Srila Prabhupada, if one is  serious or one is not serious? What makes one… Prabhupada: Well,  this seriousness comes after many, many births. It is also not so easy. Rupa  Gosvami says, tatra laulyam api mulyam ekalam janma-koti-sukrtair na  labhyate. He wrote a verse, krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam yadi  kuto ‘pi labhyate: “The krsna-bhakti, Krsna consciousness, this thing, if you  can purchase somewhere, just immediately purchase it.”  Krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam: “Just purchase.” Yadi kuto ‘pi  labhyate. First of all, if you want to purchase, the things must be  available. Yadi kuto. Therefore kuto ‘pi, “If it is available, immediately  purchase.” Then next question is, “What is the value? What is the price I  have to pay?” Then he said, tatra laulyam ekalam mulyam, “Simply your  serious eagerness to have it. That is the price.” “Oh, that I can have  very easily.” “No.” Janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate: “That laulyam,  that seriousness, is not obtained after thousands of years’  pious activities.” It is so difficult. Janma-koti-sukrtair na  labhyate. People are acting piously, but that kind of seriousness is  not available even after executing pious activities for thousands  of lives. So that seriousness is also very difficult, to become  very
serious that “In this life I shall finish my business and go  home, back to home, back to Godhead.” Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan  mam prapadyate. Krsna says, “After many, many births, when actually  one becomes in knowledge, he surrenders unto Me.”

Have a bogus guru ? then bogus arcana seva as well

August 16, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

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Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
 
Continuing along the way with exposing bogus gurus and their followers, we  here below have
 a very conclusive statement by Srila Prabhupada where he clearly  explains that if one has a bogus
guru, then that persons “deity worship” is also bogus.
 
Hare Krsna
 
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Devotee  (3): In regard to worshiping arca-vigraha form, you have explained that  if one receives a mantra from a spiritual master who is not bona  fide, that mantra has no effect. So I would like to ask  if one is worshiping a Deity and his spiritual master is not bona fide, so  that Deity cannot be considered the Supreme Lord? Prabhupada: Well, first  of all, thing is if the spiritual master is not bona fide, how his  mantra can be bona fide? Your statement is contradictory. If you  say the spiritual master is not bona fide, then how his mantra becomes bona  fide? If he is bona fide, then his mantra is bona fide. Devotee (3):  Then why is he giving instruction to worship the Deity? If the spiritual  master is not bona fide, then is the Deity also not bona fide? Prabhupada:  I do not follow. What does he say? Tamala Krsna: His idea is that if one  receives a mantra from a spiritual master, if the spiritual master is not  bona fide… Prabhupada: Then there is no question of mantra.  There is no question of worshiping Deity. These are all bogus  things. If you are not… Just like here is a young medical man.  If he has not received instruction from a bona fide medical college, so what  is the value of his medical, being… That is… What is called? What is the  technical name? Devotee (4): Quack. Prabhupada: Quack! (laughter)  (pronounces like “quark”) Devotees: Quack. Prabhupada: A quack is not a  medical man, however he may show all red bottles, white bottles. There is a  Bengali proverb, naj jal yac curi tini ei daktar.(?) One stethoscope, naj(?),  and some bottles, jala, and talking all nonsense, he becomes a doctor. That  means the quack doctor, not a… Qualified doctor, he knows what is what. So  naj jal yac curi tini ei daktar(?). In Bengali they say. And mostly  in villages they go on like that. But of course, they have got  some experience. I know in Allahabad there was a doctor, Kabhir, a  Dr. Kabhir. And because in my previous household life I was a chemist  and druggist, I was supplying medicine, so he was my customer. So he  had that… This Dr. Kabhir was a compounder. Later on he practiced. So  he had very, very big prac… He was my biggest customer. He  was purchasing medicine like anything. But he had experience. He  learned from an experienced doctor. He cannot be called a bogus,  because whatever he learned, he was… But generally, one who is not a  bona
fide doctor, he is called a quack. So anything, experience required, not  that you have to go to the medical college. If you are trained under a bona  fide doctor, then also you can get the quality of a doctor.  Similarly, the whole thing is tad-vijnanartham sa  gurum evabhigacchet. One should go to the bona fide spiritual master  to learn this transcendental science.
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Follow bogus guru-you  go to hell

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Saturday Love feast

April 16, 2013 in Kanhaiya Dasa

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Hare Krsna all dear ones,
Please accept my humble obesiances with all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

We had a wonderful feast today – Devotees came from distant places to glorify Srila Prabhupada and Lord Ships. Program started with beautiful Kirtan, Narsimha Prayers, Jai Radha Madhava by HG Damaghosa Das and EXCELLENT Class fro Teaching of Lord Chaitanya…
Followed by nice poem and Gopinath Bhajan by Anu Prabhu…. and last but not least wonderful Feast…(Srikhand On Apple cobbler as desert)…
Here is the video on “Param Karuna Bhajan” – just love this Bhajan…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH-BdLVD_9w

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Devotees just left 1/2 hour ago and I have already started missing their association….Is something wrong with me???
Hari Bol

Your Humble Servant

-Kanhaiya DasAnudas

 

He reason ill who tells that Vaisnavas die, When thou art living still in sound!
The Vaisnavas die to live, and living try, To spread the Holy Name around !”

 (Poem by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura)

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Some qualificat​ions of a bona fide spiritual master

December 19, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

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Hare Krsna to all

Pranams

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

 

Because it is Kali yuga, the age of quarrel and  hypocrisy, it is very very easy for one

who desires spiritual life to become cheated. He or she  will be cheated by practically

everyone who poses as a spiritualist. This is not my  opinion, but the words of

Srila Prabhupada, the Acarya or Guru for the worldwide  Hare Krsna Movement.

 

He often would tell us that if  you don’t know what gold looks like and someone offers you

pyrite (imitation gold)  and wants to sell it to you, then because you don’t actually know  what

real gold is, you will be  cheated. Therefore it is incumbent upon every aspiring spiritualist, to

make him or herself familiar with  the terms of “real gold”. That very valuable information is to follow.

 

This article is a follow up to the previous one I just  sent out yesterday, entitled “The process of accepting a bona fide  guru”.

 

Hare Krsna

Damaghosa das

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A First class person wants to make his life spiritually  perfect.

A Second class person wants great riches by political or  business means

A Third class person wants riches by industry or  mercantile work

A Fourth class person wants only to fill the  belly.

 

Some Qualifications of bona fide guru

 

“UNLESS ONE IS UNDER THE SHELTER OF A REALIZED SPIRITUAL  MASTER, HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE SUPREME IS SIMPLY FOOLISHNESS.”   TLC.

 

SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A BONA FIDE SPIRITUAL  MASTER.

 

1)      Above the 4 defects-mistakes, illusion, imperfect senses,  cheating.

2)      When a devotee is perfectly qualified in chanting the Transcendental  vibration of the Holy Names, he is quite fit to become  SM and deliver all the people of the  world. (TLC)

3)      The guru must be situated on the top most platform of devotional service.  There are 3 classes of devotees and the guru must be accepted from the top most  class. When one has attained the top most position of maha bhagavata, he is to  be accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of  Godhead. ONLY such a person is eligible to occupy the post of guru. CC  Mad24.330

4)      Since one cannot visually experience the presence of the supersoul, He  appears before us as a liberated devotee. Such a SM is none other that Krsna  Himself. CC Ant 5.171

5)      When a pure devotee speaks, he speaks perfectly. How is this? His speech  is managed by Krsna Himself within the heart.”

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The process of accepting a bona fide guru-SP

December 19, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

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Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below we have summarized a few lectures by Srila Prabhupada where he nicely  explains
who will find a real guru, and how to determine who is a real guru.
He says-
1. accept a guru who is infallible
2.If you dont get a qualified guru, then everything is bogus
3.if you dont find such a guru, that means Krsna is not pleased or your not  serious
4.guru must be accepted from highest order- paramahamsa
5.who has been cheated by bogus gurus? He says-“Practically everyone”
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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761003SB.VRN                    Lectures                  … Sisyas te ‘ham sadhi mam prapannam: “Now, Krsna, I accept You as my  guru. Not as friend.” Because friendly talking is useless waste of time. He  accepted Him as guru. When guru speaks, you cannot argue. That is not the  process. You should accept a guru who is infallible. Otherwise it  is useless. He accepted guru Krsna because Krsna is infallible. If we accept guru, a bogus guru, then it is no benefit. Guru means  Krsna’s representative. Not that everyone can be  guru.  
720911rc.arl                 Conversations                Prabhupada:  Just like Dhruva Maharaja. He was advised by his mother  that “If you go to the forest you can see God.” So he went there. But when he  was very serious, then Krsna sent him Narada Muni. So if you are actually  serious about Krsna, then Krsna will send you some of His representative and  he will take charge of you. That is the process. If you do not  find a guru, that means Krsna is not yet pleased, either you are not  serious.
720629rc.sd                  Conversations                Devotee: What determines, Srila Prabhupada, if one is serious or  one is not serious? What makes one… Prabhupada: Well, this seriousness  comes after many, many births. It is also not so easy. Rupa Gosvami says,  tatra laulyam api mulyam ekalam janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate. He wrote a  verse, krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam yadi kuto ‘pi labhyate:  “The krsna-bhakti, Krsna consciousness, this thing, if you can  purchase somewhere, just immediately purchase it.”  Krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam: “Just purchase.” Yadi kuto ‘pi  labhyate. First of all, if you want to purchase, the things must be  available. Yadi kuto. Therefore kuto ‘pi, “If it is available, immediately  purchase.” Then next question is, “What is the value? What is the price I  have to pay?” Then he said, tatra laulyam ekalam mulyam, “Simply your  serious eagerness to have it. That is the price.” “Oh, that I can have  very easily.” “No.” Janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate: “That laulyam,  that seriousness, is not obtained after thousands of years’  pious activities.” It is so difficult. Janma-koti-sukrtair na  labhyate. People are acting piously, but that kind of seriousness is  not available even after executing pious activities for thousands  of lives. So that seriousness is also very difficult, to become  very serious that “In this life I shall finish my business and go  home, back to home, back to Godhead.” Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan  mam prapadyate. Krsna says, “After many, many births, when actually  one becomes in knowledge, he surrenders unto Me.”
761101SB.VRN                    Lectures                     So for that there are so many practices, regulative principles, mentioned  here. The first thing is hamse gurau mayi bhaktyanuvrtya. This is  religion. Adau gurvasrayam. If you do not get a  qualified guru, then everything is bogus. If  you, by good fortune, if you get the association of a guru, qualified hamsa,  paramahamsa… Paramahamsa guru means sannyasi’s last stage is  paramahamsa. Kuticaka, bahudaka, parivrajakacarya, and  paramahamsa, these are the different stages.

Why the iskcon gurus– are bogus

September 24, 2012 in Articles, Yasoda nandana Dasa

 

 

Hare  Krsna to all-
Srila  Prabhupada quotes below compiled by Yasoda nandan das
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Srila  Prabhupada explained that His Guru Maharaja never appointed anybody as  acarya.
“…They wanted to create  artificially somebody acarya“,
Note:  The ISKCON GBC artificially created 11  acaryas in March of 1978.
Note:  If  Srila Prabhupada wanted to appoint 11 acaryas [diksa-gurus] for ISKCON, why did  he not directly say?
,,,”He  said so many things, and this point He missed? The  real point? “
Note: Similarly Srila Prabhupada said so  many things in the last few months of 1977, and the real point He  missed?
…”and they insist upon it. They  declared some unfit person to become”…(SPC (BBT 1991) 15.08.76)
Note:  And the GBC misheard, misunderstood, and  misrepresented to the body of ISKCON devotees that 11 had been  “appointed” as acaryas.  And tbey insisted upon it.  And they declared some unfit persons to  become acaryas.
Note:  If His Divine Grace Srila  Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada did not appoint anyone as acarya  [or diksa guru] for His mission, what makes the leading secretaries of His  Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada think that He would appoint one  acarya or a group of acaryas for His Mission, in direct contradiction of His  criticism of this whole concept in August of 1976.
Srila Prabhupada  conversation, August 16, 1976, Bombay, India
Srila  Prabhupada explains that there is no record that HDGBSTP nominated “any acarya” after him
“… I have also read specifically your  articles on the matter of acaryas, wherein on the 14th paragraph I see the  acarya shall be entitled to nominate in in writing his successive  acarya.But we do not find any record where our  Srila Prabhupada nominated any acarya after Him. Different persons have interpreted on  this point, and everyone of our Godbrothers are acting as acarya, so this is a  controversial point which I do not wish to enter into while we are proposing for  co-operation…”
Srila Prabhupada letter 1969 (SPL (VI  1987) 69.8.38)
Note:  Where is the actual verifiable record  that Srila Prabhupada [HDG ACBSP]  “nominated any acarya after Him” ?
Srila  Prabhupada defines obedience. Srila Prabhupada – “I may say many things to you, but  when I say something directly to you, you do it. Your first duty is to do  that,you cannot argue -‘Sir, you said to me  do like this before’, no that is not your duty, what I say to you now you do it,  that is obedience you cannot argue.” (SP S.B. Lecture, 14/4/75,  Hyderabad)
Guru  cannot be self-made Guru must be  authorized “Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is  no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so  many rascals, they are becoming guruwithout any authority. That is not guru.You must be authorised. Evam parampara-praptam imam ra… As  soon as the parampara is….kalena yogo nasta parantapa, immediately finished.  The spiritual potency finished.You can dress like a guru, you can talk  big, big words, but it will never be effective.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Lecture, February  27th 1977, Mayapur, India)
Guru  must be authorized by the bona fide Guru.Self-made guru cannot be guru. He  must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he’s guru. This is the  fact…Similarly, bona fide guru meanshe must be authorized by the superior  guru.” (SP NOD Lecture,  October 31. 1972)
Guru  must be authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. “One should take initiation from a bona  fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who isauthorised by his predecessor spiritual  master. This is called diksa-vidhana.” (S.B. 4.8.54, purport)
Guru  must be ordered by his guru. Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don’t go  very speedily.A guru can become guru when he’s ordered  by his guru. That’s  all. Otherwise nobody
Result of Gaudiya Matha’s attempt to become more than  guru. “Why this Gaudiya Matha  failed?Because they tried to become more than  guru.  [.]They declared some  unfit person to become acarya. Then another man came, then another, acarya,  another acarya.” (Srila  Prabhupada Room Conversation, 16/8/76)
Position of the actual  guru. “An actual guru always remains the  servant of his own guru and the predecessor acaryas.Attempting to become a guru without  one’s own guru’s order is a materialistic ambition. Accepting followers and  circumventing one’s own guru is offensive.” >>> Ref. VedaBase => MGM  22-11: A Lost Son Visits Home
Srila Prabhupada explains how he  became the leader of the KC movement. Guru must be ordered by His  guru. “Indian man: When did you become  spiritual the leader of Krsna Consciousness? Srila Prabhupada: What is that? Brahmananda: He is asking when did you  become the spiritual leader of Krsna Consciousness? Srila Prabhupada:When my Guru Maharaja ordered me. This  is the guru parampara. Indian man: Did it… Srila Prabhupada: Try to understand.  Don’t go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his  guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.  ”     (SP Bg. Lecture, 28/10/75
Guru must be  authorized Guru cannot be  self-made. Position of gurus without  authority. “Guru cannot  be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic  literature.And nowadays, so many rascals, they are  becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be  authorised. Evam  parampara-praptam imam ra… As soon as the parampara is…kalena yogo nasta  parantapa, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress  like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective.”  (Lecture, February 27th 1977, Mayapur, India)
Guru must be authorized by the  bona fide guru. “Self-made guru cannot be  guru.He must be authorized by the bona fide  guru. Then he’s guru.  This is the fact…Similarly, bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the  superior guru.” (SP NOD Lecture, October 31. 1972)
Guru must be authorized  person. “Thereforeguru must be authorized  person, not that  bhumi-phala-guru. No. I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru unless you are  agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna. That is  guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary person. He is the representative,  bona fide representative of Krsna.” (SB Lecture,November 30, 1976)
Guru cannot impart instructions  without being authorized “The  schoolmasters in the modern days are paid agents for giving some information,  but the spiritual master is not a paid agent.Nor can he impart instruction without  being authorized.”  (SB:2.9.43, purport)
“A Guru can be Guruwhen he is ordered by his  Guru. That’s all.  Otherwise nobody can become Guru.” (SP Bg. Lecture, 28th October 1975)
Srila Prabhupada predicts what  happens when the acarya disappears? Unfortunately, when the acarya  disappears, rogues and nondevotees take advantage and immediately begin to  introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svamis, yogis,  philanthropists, welfare workers and so on.   SB 4.28.48
Do not make addition,  alteration. Results of making additions and  alterations. Many times they give me very great  credit that I have done wonderful. Yes, I have done wonderful. But what is the  reason? Because I am not a rascal. I speak what Krsna has spoken. That’s all.  Very easy. Everyone can do that. Not only I. Any of you, you can do this. Simply  speak what is…, what Krsna has said. That’s all.Don’t make  addition, alteration.Then you become  rascal. Immediately you become rascal. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture 1.5.29  Vrndavana, August 10, 1974) Danger of concocting Prabhupada: Ara na koriha mane  asa.Don’t  concoct. Don’t you sing daily? Ara na koriha mane asa. Don’t manufacture  ideas. That  is dangerous.  Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches by His example. Guru more murkha dekhi’ karila  sasana. Caitanya Mahaprabhu said to Prakasananda Sarasvati that “My spiritual master saw Me fool number  one, so he haschastised Me, that ‘Don’t try to read Vedanta; chant Hare  Krsna 760623gc.nv Conversations  428848/530501 Go to right person who has  seen. Do not make your own  interpretration Prabhupada:Therefore Krsna says, tad viddhi  pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: “One who knows, go and understand from them,  from the guru.” Don’t make your interpretation, rascal. You shall remain  always arascal. Then  what is the use of all these verses? If it is so easy to understand Krsna  then why Krsna says, tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: “Then you  will understand. Go to the right person who has seen.” .  751210mw.vrn Conversations  405334/530501
 

 

The weather gets better by chanting Hare Krsna

June 25, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below is a short conversation with Srila Prabhupada about rain, food, and  chanting.
He says the karmis (and we see that today even the devotees) dont like  the idea of producing their own food.
He calls it “their disease”. He then talks about the former great Roman  empire which was started
with so much hard labor and today all that is left is some piled up bricks.  Where are the people today
that built this “empire”? Nobody knows, and what benefit do they get today  from all that hard labor?
Its all karma bandana-work which binds one to samsara, the wheel of birth  and death.
Probably the most interesting point is how the weather in New  Vrndavana had gotten better there because
of so many devotees all chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Then Srila  Prabhupada says yes, and he wants to buy land in Mayapur and Vrndavan for  becoming self sufficient.
So there it is folks–
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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 Prabhupada:  Yajna means to satisfy the Supreme Lord. That is yajna. So in the Kali-yuga  the yajna is made very easy. Chant Hare Krsna. So anywhere you go, chant  Hare Krsna, and see that there will be clouds, there will be rainfall, and  just work little, you get your foodgrains, and chant Hare  Krsna.
Yogesvara: They won’t like that  idea.
 Prabhupada: That means their… That is their  disease. The same thing, that “Why you are sitting here? Come with  me, work.” “What shall I do by working?” “You get money.” “Then you’ll  enjoy.” “And I am already enjoying.” That the… This is called maya.  Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan. These rascals, simply for little  temporary so-called benefit, they have created this working civilization,  “Work very hard, very hard.” That’s all. Whole history… In this Rome  city you can see. There are evidences. These buildings are constructed  with hard labor. Now those rascals have gone, and they are  maintaining, that “They worked so hard.” Those who worked very hard  they have gone away. Now nobody knows where they are and what they have  become. But they are maintaining their bricks. That’s all. Brick  civilization. (break)
Devotee: Why is it that the rains come in certain parts of the  world and in other parts people do not have enough?
Prabhupada: No, no  part of the world is nowadays sufficient rain. Because they are not  performing yajna. Sometimes it is seen that over-rain, overflood, not  systematic. But if you perform yajna, there will be systematic rainfall,  which you can utilize properly. Yajnad bhavati  parjanyah.
Devotee: Kirtanananda Swami says that in New Vrindaban the weather  is changing every year. It is getting nicer there. Much more sun and  the winter is not so hard.
Atreya Rsi: In New Vrindaban it’s getting better.
Prabhupada: Yes. Because there are so many devotees. The people  are still being maintained on account of our chanting Hare Krsna  mantra.
Devotee: By the grace of pure devotee.
Prabhupada: Yes.  (break) …encouraging in our society to take to agriculture to support this  center. I am purchasing land in Vrndavana and Mayapura to become  self-sufficient. Whatever production you make, you be satisfied.  Little vegetable, little grain and little milk. That is sufficient.

“You cannot eat anything , even grass without the sanction of God”—SP

June 23, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below is a very interesting conversation wherein Srila Prabhupada explains  the difficult
situation all kali yuga inhabitants find themselves.
Machines and so called “easy living” vs. working hard in a rural  setting and producing your own food. The first is easier for that kind  of work only requires one sit at a desk for many, and push some buttons/shuffle  some papers-not very physically taxing. But as we see from that kind of inactive  sedentary lifestyle all kinds of very serious health and mental problems  ensue.  On the other hand, when one operates his or her body in a moving  physically active way, that is the way God intended us to live-by working hard  to produce our necessities. And tremendous health and mental benefits  come  from this type of satisfying work which one does not get by pushing  buttons.
And finally just to be fair, Srila Prabhupada points out that to stop ones  kind of city occupation in this age and go live in the country is almost  impossible to do  So he recommends that one keep his job, but add the  chanting of Hare Krsna maha mantra to that work. And if one does this, he will  get purified of so many anarthas, or unwanted things in his heart. So much so  that he may even want to give up city living and the fat pay check and simply go  and live more simply so that his pursuit of God consciousness is made easier by  living in the mode of goodness instead of the mode of passion and  ignorance.
Hari bol,
Damaghosa das
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740524r2.rome                 Conversations                Richard Webster: What civilization there is comes chiefly from  the television, I’m afraid. I mean the public opinion is made by  the television. Atreya Rsi: The television today is setting up the  standard for the civilization, for today’s civilization. Richard Webster:  But they talk about nothing but name war (?) and… Prabhupada: (indistinct)  pictures. Richard Webster: It’s much easier. They’re producing more  television sets (indistinct) Yogesvara: It’s a great science. My mother  is an executive in a public relations firm. Her business is to show products,  goods, to people that otherwise they have no need for and to convince them  that there is some value. It’s a very big industry, especially in the  United States, public relations, advertising. It’s very psychological  too. They use all kinds of psychological techniques for inducing people  to take things they have no need for. Prabhupada: All right  but thing is that after all our prime necessity is food. So why people  are not engaged to produce food? Richard Webster: Well, in Italy  they don’t like to work on the land any more. They all want to live in  town.

Prabhupada tells a cartoon story

June 22, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

740524r2.rom                 Conversations                Prabhupada: There was a cartoon. When I… One leader is  approached for food, that “We are in scarcity of food.” The leader says,  “Of course, it is very difficult to assure you for food grains. But  from next week you will have television.” (laughter) Next week you will have television. So these improvements are going on,  television, but they are starving. This is going on. Advancement of knowledge  and learning is going on in discovering television, but there is no  food. This is the mismanagement of the leaders. Dishonest.  There is enough food. Punjab still produces food grains. Bengal still  produces rice, but they are stocked by government men, and they are mishandling. They are lying on the station for dispatch, but they will not  be dispatched. They are rotting. Rainy season spoiled the whole  stock; still, they are not dispatched. Official: “There is no dispatch  order. There is no wagons available.” Simply mismanagement or bribe. This  is going on. And people are suffering.
…Somebody approached some politician, and he said, “Yes, I know there is food problem. So I cannot say what can I do for you, but  from next week, you will have television.” This is their program, “From  next week you will have television.” As if television will minimize  my hunger. This is the civilization. Hare Krsna. So you ask problem,  I will answer. Your energy, problems of energy, petrol, it will  be automatically solved. If we are localized, there is no question  of petrol.
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Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
The above tells the story of kali yuga-because we are so “machine oriented”  practically everyone is forgetting the basic necessities of life-like FOOD  !!
I just read today an article about a study asking people how they would  value losing their cell phones.
The reply was that most of them would rather not have sex than lose their  cell phones. Others replied they would rather lose their wedding rings or wallet  than their cell phones.
This is how attachment works.

What does it mean to be Surrendere​d to God?–SP

June 3, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

740502mw.bom                 Conversations
Prabhupada:  Yes. When Krsna… Therefore we shall fully surrender to Krsna. As  Bhaktivinoda Thakura says, marobi rakhobi yo iccha tohara: “Now I  surrender. Now if you want to maintain me, that is all right, and if You want  to kill me, that is also all right.” This is surrender. It is not business, “If You maintain me, then I surrender. If You kill me, then I do not.” It is  not like that. Marobi rakhobi yo iccha tanhara. “As You like. If You  want to maintain, that is also good; if You want to kill, that is also good.” This is devotee’s view. Satsvarupa: Someone might say, “But if one is  surrendered why should Krsna give him trouble?” Prabhupada: Yes, it is  because he is always free. Why do you make Krsna dependent on your  so-called good-will, that “Krsna must give me always pleasure”? This is sense  gratification. This is sense gratification that you approach  Krsna for your comfort, sense gratification. That is not bhakti. That is  sense gratification. Prahlada Maharaja was given suffering by his  father so harshly, but he never said, “Oh, I am devotee and Krsna giving  me so much trouble? Oh! Give it up.” He never said that. Neither he  asked Krsna to come and save him. That is Krsna-bhakti. The Pandavas. The Pandavas, they were always with Krsna and they were suffering.  They never asked Krsna that “You are the Supreme, and why we are suffering?” Never said.  Never said. That is Krsna-bhakti.
Giriraja: “Because You are the  Absolute Truth, there is no difference between Your mercy and  punishment.”
Prabhupada: Yes. This is to be understood. If we understand  the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Absolute Truth, then this  is understanding, that either suffering or enjoying, it is all  Krsna’s mercy. There must be some purpose. When Krsna puts me into  suffering, there must be some purpose. So we should welcome because  it is Krsna’s mercy. Tat te ‘nukampam susumiksamano bhunjana evatma-krtam  vipakam. (Hindi) (break) “…misdeeds. It is Krsna’s mercy that He is  reforming me, slightly suffering. I would have suffered very greatly on  account of my past deeds, but He is kindly accommodating me by giving  little suffering. That’s all.”

Rags to riches story-and then some

May 31, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

A rags to riches story-and then  some

A  jobless man applied for the position of ‘office boy’ at Microsoft. The HR  manager interviewed him then watched him cleaning the floor as a test.   ‘You are employed’ he said. Give me your e-mail address and I’ll send you the  application to fill in, as well as date when you may start.
The man  replied ‘But I don’t have a computer, neither an email’. ‘I’m sorry’, said the  HR manager. If you don’t have an email that means you don’t exist. And who  doesn’t exist, can’t have the job.’
The man left with no hope at all. He  didn’t know what to do, with only $10 in his pocket. He then decided to go to  the supermarket and buy a 10Kg tomato crate.
He then sold the tomatoes in  a door to door round. In less than two hours, he succeeded to double his  capital. He repeated the operation three times, and returned home with  $60.
The man realized that he can survive by  this way, and started to go every day earlier, and return late. Thus, his money  doubled or tripled every day. Shortly, he bought a cart, then a truck, and then  he had his own fleet of delivery vehicles.
5 years later, the man is one  of the biggest food retailers in the US. He started to plan his family’s future,  and decided to have a life insurance.
He called an insurance broker, and  chose a protection plan.
When the conversation was concluded the broker  asked him his email. The man replied, ‘I don’t have an email.’
The broker  answered curiously, ‘You don’t have an email, and yet have succeeded to build an  empire. Can you imagine what you could have been If you had an e mail?!!’ The  man thought for a while and replied, ‘Yes, I’d be an office boy at Microsoft!’ 

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Although this story is fictitious, it  illustrates a good point.  That point is that if one learns how to
“think out of the box” as the karmis say, then a  whole new world unfolds for us. If we take the same old path trodden by   the majority of work people of this world, then we will most probably have our  9-5 job, possibly some security, and more remotely, even some retirement  benefits-maybe, although in todays financial world, none of these things are  100% for sure. 
On the other hand, if we are learning some  things from the great world Acarya Srila Prabhupada, then he will inform us that  taking the road traveled by millions isnt necessarily the best one, the safest  one, or the one sanctioned by Lord Krsna Himself.  Srila Prabhupada is  trying to get us all to start becoming more “independent” in our  thinking  and living patterns. And we all know to break old habits is  almost impossible to do. But break them we can do, if we submissively hear the  words of the Lords representative.
Let’s hear what he has to  say-
1. Hari-sauri: Should we try to make an effort to have  our householders go and live  on the farms, a special effort? If it’s ready  to do that? Prabhupada: Why   householders? Everyone.
2…” Indian people are little clever. They would come  from  the village to the city alone, not with family. They earn money and  send  to the family. And whenever they like, they go away. They’re not  dependent. And if you bring family, you have to  work. That system  is still going on. The village men, they come but  they do not bring their  family. Family remains in the village. He earns,  he lives some way or other  and sends money there, and the wife who is  intelligent. He (she) accumulates  the money and when there is enough money he (she)  purchases  land,investment. So… In after few years, when they  have got enough  land, they do not come back. They produce their own  necessities. Very  nice. Hare Krsna. As soon as they are self-sufficient from the  land they  no more work. That’s a good idea. Remain  in the village with  family…
3…  750514mw.per                  Conversations                 Prabhupada: The solution is  there. They won’t take it. Solution  is there, that everyone produce your  own food. There is so much  land; utilize it. The solution  is there. No. They want to sit down on  the table, chair, in a very nice  compartment, and making solution.
Amogha: He was saying that your solution was too simple. He   said that people will not accept it because it is too simple.
Prabhupada:That is his ignorance. They will say it is  primitive.That is the only solution.
4..Simple living and high  thinking is the solution to economic  problems. Therefore the  Krsna consciousness movement  in engaging devotees in producing their own  food and  living self-sufficiently so that rascals may see  how one can live  very peacefully, eat the food grains one has grown  oneself, drink milk,  and chant Hare Krsna.
5..Therefore I am asking so much here and…,  “Farm, farm, farm, farm…” That is not  my program–Krsna’s program. Annad bhavanti  bhutani. Produce greenness everywhere, everywhere.  Vrndavana. It is not this  motorcar civilization.
6..This  is our education. Don’t be after these motorcars, television, and all nonsense  things, sporting, wine, women. Don’t be after these.Simply eat sufficiently, keep your health nicely, chant Hare  Krsna,
realize Krsna, and go  back  to home This is our philosophy
7.. A little labor in  agriculture will be sufficient to produce the  family’s food stock for the whole year. You can stock. You work only three months, and you get sufficient  food for your whole family. And less nine months, you chant Hare Krsna.  But these rascals will not do that. They will work hard like ass  simply for eating.
8..We want two favours. One from guru, one from Krsna.That’s  all. We don’t want anyone’s favour.————————————————————————————————————————————————-

Below is some  spring pictures right now of the garden fields and basically getting it all  ready

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No more upadhis-material designations

May 20, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa

Jaya Srila Prabhupada

 Na Jayate  Mriyate va kadacinFor the soul,  there is never birth nor death, Nor having once been does he ever  cease to be. (Bhagavad Gita 2.20)

Self realization means to be able to see the soul. I look at you and  see your body, you look at me and see my body. This is not self  realization.
Aham brahmasmi means I am soul, not this body. ..”Dehino’ smin yatha  dehi… Deha and dehi means this body and the owner of this body. When  we  are able too see the soul we are on the brahma bhuta platform. This is  self realization.
If we want to be free of this material bondage and see ourselves as we  are, then we must purify our self of all the upadhis or material  designations.
Prabhupada writes…”Krishna consciousness is  actually a purificatory process. Its purpose is to make people free from  all designations. When our consciousness becomes purified of all  designations, the activities we carry out with our purified senses make us  perfect. Eventually, we reach the ideal perfection of human life. Krishna  consciousness is also a very simple process. It is not necessary to become a  great philosopher, scientist, or whatever. We need only chant the holy name of  the Lord, understanding that His personality, His name, and His qualities are  all absolute.”
Most everyone thinks that if he or she gets a nice  birth in a nice family, has good looks, education and some wealth, then all this  has been Divinely bestowed upon him by God. But from the spiritual  perspective all these things are no more than gifts of the illusory energy,  Maya. These things keep us trapped in the bodily conception of  life.  We see that is true when we hear the story of Nalakuvera and  Manigriva, the sons of Kuvera. They were both devas or demigods, and they were  devotees of some sort of the Supreme Lord, but because of the easy life their  material benedictions gave them, they condemned themselves to a life of  debauchery. They misused their material assets which is quite natural for one in  that position.This is what naturally happens for most if one takes to the field  of material piety instead of trying to purify the heart, thru bhakti  yoga, of all the (unwanted) anarthas present.
Prabhupada gives an example-when we are sitting comfortably in our easy  chair, we have the remote in one hand, our cell phone in the other, some chips  and fizz nearby , and we think , now I am comfortable!
But then somebody comes along and tells us NO, you have to come with me.  You MUST come with me dragging you off, and then your comfortable position  is now ruined. This is called Death. Nobody wants it, but it has to come to us  all. Yet how many of us are ready for this? How many of us are ready to get  ripped out of our comfortable situation and not even complain about  it? Only one who knows without any doubting that he or she is not this  material body.
He gave another nice example-once while on a train ride somewhere in India,  a few others were fighting over their train seat. He mentioned that even though  they know they will only be there a couple of hours, they are taking that seat  as some permanent arrangement and that is why it is worth fighting  over.  And we as kids, also had a similar situation while traveling  with parents in the family car. We would all fight over who got the window  seat !.
So how is this  child like fighting different than what we do as  adults on a daily basis fighting with others over some meager  material gains? Like the childs game of musical chairs whereby a group of kids  will circle a row of chairs which are one short of the number of participating  kids. When the music stops, everyone has to grab a chair. One kid is always  out of a chair ! This is how material life works. Its always a struggle for  everything. Nothing in this material world comes without some sort of  struggle-either with others or with our own limitations to accomplish  something.
Self realization means this material struggle for things related to this  body is over- because we realize without any doubt, that we are not matter,  not this body, not connected to any so called material family or race, do not  belong to some country and in fact have absolutely nothing to do with this  material world. Unfortunately for most of us we think we are free to do what we  like, but at any moment,  if the Devas disagree, we could lose motion  in our arms  hands or legs and become paralyzed. Yet we  all will  say, this is MY body. If its our body then why cant we make it do what WE want  it to do?
This conditional life always will be a source of problems to us.  In  this verse from BG it says we are never born and we never die, so if we  are eternal and believe it, why do we then bother so much- with the  temporary? BG says we dont take birth, yet all of us will say we were born on  such and such a date, and if we consult astrologers,  they say we will die  at such and such time as well. This is body consciousness only- because  according to BG we dont take birth and we do not die.
So the next question would be, then if we were originally with Krsna in the  spiritual world, how did we get ourselves into this present predicament? How did  we become so fallen?

GBC vs. Prabhupada: Heresies of the Governing Body Commission Rejected

May 18, 2012 in Articles, Vikramasingha Dasa

The Iskcon GBC philosophy on guru-tattva and initiations has evolved over the years. In the late 1970s and early 80s, they conceded, due to the insistence of a few leading members, that eleven individuals had been appointed and empowered by Srila Prabhupada to act as zonal acharyas in Iskcon. The GBC conceded that these eleven could create their own authority structure called “The Acharya Board”. The GBC agreed that only these eleven could be initiating spiritual masters in Iskcon and, in the future, only they could appoint other spiritual masters, or diksa-gurus, from among their disciples or Godbrother followers.

In the latter part of the 1980s, after few of the “chosen eleven” fell down and went insane, these contentions were overturned under mounting pressure from a so-called guru reform movement. GBC reformists decided that these eleven “Iskcon acharyas” could no longer be zonal autocrats above the authority of the GBC. The GBC resolved that only a majority vote of the GBC body would have authority to sanction and regulate initiating spiritual masters in Iskcon. They resolved that any devotee sanctioned by the GBC could initiate his own disciples in Srila Prabhupada’s mission, and they recommended that “diksa-gurus” no longer accept elaborate public worship in Iskcon temples and titles and prayers meant for maha-bhagavatas. They thus tried to reduce the power and ritual status of “Iskcon acharyas” while opening the door for all senior preachers “in good standing” to covet the post of “Iskcon guru”. In this way the GBC quelled the “guru reform movement” within Iskcon.

GBC resolutions regarding initiations and guru-tattva have been inconsistent and contradictory. It is hard to find two “Iskcon gurus”, GBC members, or Iskcon devotees with the exact same views on these topics. New devotees often doubt whether the praises they sing to the spiritual master at mangala-arotika and guru-puja should be directed toward their so-called Iskcon guru or to Srila Prabhupada. Should they hear primarily from Srila Prabhupada, or more from their “living guru”? Should they offer prayers and worship to a picture of their “guru” on the altar before doing Deity worship or offering food? If so, would he even know? Are all prayers to the spiritual master just ritualistic hyperbole that can be applied to any so-called Iskcon (or gaudiya math) “guru”?

Below is summary of the stance of the GBC today and in the recent past, with samples of their clearly implied philosophical ideas that are against the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Immediately after each GBC idea, we have provided the correct understanding of guru-tattva and diksa according the Srila Prabhupada’s books, conversations, letters, and classes. Authorized references are cited at the end.  Throughout Srila Prabhupada’s books there are many dozens of references similar to the few cited below.

GBC: The spiritual master may be a self-made guru who is nominated by his peers or followers and sanctioned by the GBC, an ecclesiastical board. There is no need for a direct, specific order from Srila Prabhupada to become a diksa-guru in Iskcon.

Srila Prabhupada’s siddhanta: “A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.” (See below references 1, 2 and 10.)

GBC: Srila Prabhupada authorized the GBC to sanction and dismiss diksa-gurus in ISKCON.

SPS: “Mundane votes have no jurisdiction the elect a Vaisnava acharya. A Vaisnava acharya is self-effulgent, and there is no need of any court judgment. Prabhupada authorized the GBC to select (or dismiss) representatives (ritviks), who initiate on His behalf. No one can be guru without the direct order of Krishna or His perfect devotee. (See below references 1, 2, 10 and 15.)

 GBC: Lord Caitanya gave a blanket order for every devotee to initiate his own disciples.

SPS: Lord Caitanya ordered His followers to become “gurus” by asking everyone they meet to chant Hare Krishna. He never ordered all devotees to initiate their own disciples. Even Lord Caitanya’s eternal associates, like Sri Gadadhara Pandita, refused to initiate disciples without a direct order from Lord Caitanya. Many great devotees never initiated their own disciples. (References 2 and 3.)

GBC: Persons who are not self-realized souls or topmost Vaisnavas can be diksa-gurus if the GBC approves.

SPS: “Only a topmost devotee, a maha-bhagavata, is eligible to occupy the post of guru.” (See below reference 4.)

GBC: Spiritual masters must be sanctioned, overseen, regulated and, if necessary, disciplined by the GBC.

SPS: The genuine spiritual master is never to be regulated or disciplined by ecclesiastical boards. (See below reference 5.)

GBC: A spiritual master may sometimes fall down and become demoniac.

SPS: “There is no possibility that a first-class devotee will fall down…”“The bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession since time immemorial.” (See below references 6 and 18.)

GBC: One may ignore, neglect, or reject his spiritual master who falls from grace with the GBC.

SPS: A genuine disciple never rejects his spiritual master. (See reference 7.)

GBC: A student of Krishna consciousness may select any spiritual master, according his or her personal tastes and the ecclesiastical conventions current in Iskcon.

SPS: “Srila Jiva Goswami advised that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions. One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding.” (See below reference 8.)

GBC: There are dozens of gurus in Iskcon and each is entitled to his or her own ideas and opinions.

SPS: “Guru is one. He has no independent ideas or opinions.” (See reference 9.)

GBC: Iskcon gurus who have fallen down, if rectified, may be reinstated by the GBC.

SPS: “A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord.” (See below reference 10.)

GBC: There are various levels of spiritual masters, or diksa-gurus, and not all are uttama-adhikaris.

SPS: “The spiritual master is always considered either one of the confidential associates of Radharani or a manifested representation of Sri Nityananda.” Only such a Vaisnava can impart transcendental knowledge into the heart of a disciple. (See below references 4, 7 and 11.)

GBC: The bona fide spiritual master dies, like all mortal men, and thus becomes useless in the matter of initiating and guiding students of Krishna consciousness.

SPS: “The spiritual master is eternal…” — “He lives forever through his divine instructions, and his follower lives with him.” — “He reasons ill who tells that Vaisnavas die!” (See reference 12.)

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