Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 7 P: II

January 16, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa


Hare Krsna to all


All glories to Srila Prabhupada


Its been a while, but here is the last part of SB classes   Vol 7 summarized


Some points of interest…

1.the senses belong to Krsna but everyone uses them for  his own purposes

2.chant Omkara go to bramajyoti, chant Hare Krsna go to  spiritual world

3.our miserable conditions caused by our thinking I am  the enjoyer, proprietor

4.when you see a flower, that is Krsna smiling

5.why do people drive so many hours to work-sex  desire

6.woman has 3 stages in life, a man has got 10  stages

7.when we chant and dance Hare Krsna, we forget we are  these bodies

8.out of thousands of muktas, its difficult to find one  Krsna bhakta to become detached from all this hard working?  Sadhu sanga

10. and much more….


Hare Krsna

Damaghosa das



750105SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

   So  the Aniruddha, He is the master of the senses, as it is  stated

here, hrsikanam adhisvaram, adhisvaram, master,  proprietor. So the

common sense is that if my hand is the property of Krsna,  why it

should be used for me? It should be used for Krsna. This  is good

sense. Suppose something belongs to somebody else. If you  use it for

your purpose, that is illegal, not lawful. This is my  watch. If you

take away this watch and use for your purpose, then it  is criminal.

You cannot say the watch is being used either by him or  by… It is

being used, that’s all. No. You cannot use it. You can  use it only by

the permission of the proprietor. Without permission of  the

proprietor, if you use it, then you are criminal or you  are sinful.

Similarly, we have got all the senses. The senses are  meant for

working. The eyes are meant for seeing, the ears are  meant for

hearing, the nose is meant for smelling, the hand is  meant for

touching, the leg is meant for going, the stomach is  meant for

eating–so many, we have got, different senses. They are  meant for

different purpose. But if the purpose is for your sense  gratification,

then you are criminal because you are not proprietor.  This is to

understand bhakti. If you do not use all the senses for  Krsna’s

purpose, then it is criminal. That is called  papa.

   So  you are doing that. Every one of us, who is doing for  Krsna?

Nobody is doing for Krsna. Everyone is doing for his  own purpose. He

is taking one flower. The devotee is bringing the flower:  “Oh, very

nice flower. Let me take it to the temple and offer it to  Krsna.” That

is devotion. The same flower, “Oh, it is very nice  flower. Oh, let me

pin it on my bunch of hair.” That is papa. The same  thing. You must

know how to utilize it. That is called bhakti. Everything  can be

utilized. Nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe yuktam vairagyam  ucyate. That art

we have to learn. Anasaktasya visayan. Visayan  means objectives for

sense gratification, visayan. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam  ca. These

are called visaya–eating, sleeping, mating, and  defending. Visaya.

   So we  are visaya. Everyone are. We are eating. Everyone is eating.

Who can say, “I am not eating”? So visaya. So our  business should be

not to be attached for eating. Then shall I starve and  die? No, you

eat Krsna prasadam. Eating is not stopped. Eating is not  stopped.

Eating means as you are cooking for yourself at home, the  same

cooking, do it for Krsna and offer it to Krsna and eat  it. That’s all.

The mode of life should be changed. That is Krsna  consciousness. It is

not that you shall give up eating. No, how can I give you  that? No, it

is not possible. Neither Krsna says, “Just give up  eating.” Never you

will find in the Bhagavad… Yuktahara-viharasya. You  must eat what

you need. Yuktahara-viharasya yogo bhavati duhkha-ha.  Krsna never says

that “Unnecessarily you starve.” You never find in the  Bhagavad-gita;

neither any acarya will say. Rather, you offer to Krsna  first-class

foodstuff because He is the enjoyer, and Krsna is so  kind, He will

leave everything for you for taking prasadam. So  automatically you can

satisfy your tongue. You offer to Krsna first-class food,  and Krsna is

so kind that He will eat; at the same time, He will keep  it for you.

Purnasya purnam adaya purnam eva avasisyate. Krsna’s  eating is not

like that: because you have given Him very nice  foodstuff, He will eat

everything and nothing for you. (laughter) That is not  Krsna. Krsna

eats everything, He accepts your service, and keeps  everything for


   So  this is bhakti-marga. It is very nice. Simply you have to  learn

how to engage your senses. Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam  bhaktir ucyate.

Your senses are property of Hrsikesa. 

…   This  is Krsna consciousness. You have to act by the desires of

Krsna. That is the proper use of your senses. You cannot  use for your

purpose. Anything… Just like you are working in some  establishment.

Anything in that establishment, you can use for the  proprietor’s

business. You cannot use it. Just like in hospital  there are blankets.

It is written there, “Hospital Property.” So long you are  in the

hospital, you can use it. But you cannot take it outside.  Then you are

criminal. Similarly, everything… Isavasyam idam  sarvam. Everything

belongs to God, and you can use it for the service of  God. You can use it as prasadam, but everything should be offered to the  Supreme. Yajnarthe karmanah loko

‘yam karma-bandhanah. If you do not do that, if you  engage yourself

always in good activities, as the karmis they do, and  earn money and

use it for your own sense gratification, that is papa  activity.


Those who are cooking in the kitchen very palatable  dishes for

satisfying the tongue, they are simply eating sinful  things.” Ye

pacanty atma-karanat.

   So  therefore, if we become sinful every moment, how we can  become

happy? It is not possible. If you want to become happy,  you have to

become pious. And the standard of piety is to become  Krsna conscious,

devotee of Krsna. That is the highest perfection of  life.

   Thank  you very much. (end)


750109SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

sound… The sound is sabda-brahma. Sound is actually  spiritual, the

Vedic sound om, omkara. Omkarasmi sarva-vedesu. So Vedic  sound begins:

om. So that is a sound. So if we capture that sound and  make further

progress, sabdad anavrtti… In the Vedanta-sutra it is  there,

anavrtti, no more repetition of birth and death, omkara.  If one can

chant omkara at the time of death, immediately  transferred to the

spiritual world, impersonal spiritual effulgence. But if  you can chant

Hare Krsna, then immediately you go to the spiritual  planet. These are

stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Anta-kale, at the time of  death, if you

can capture this sound, omkara or Hare Krsna… If you  capture omkara,

then you are transferred to the spiritual sky. 


750116SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

      So we require  protection. Therefore, mahatmanas tu mam partha

daivim prakrtim asritah. The mahatma, they are also given  protection

by daivi-prakrti, Krsna’s maya. Therefore we chant “Hare  Krsna,” not

alone “Krsna.” Hara is Krsna’s energy, so we first of  all take the

shelter of Krsna’s energy, daivi-maya, Radharani.  In Vrndavana they

chant “Radha-Krsna,” “Jaya Radhe.” The general addressing  is “Radhe,”

like that. So to take shelter of the daivi-maya…  Mahatmanas tu mam

partha daivim prakrtim asritah. If we take shelter of  the daivi-maya,

Radharani, then She will give us intelligence in such a  way that we

can take shelter of Krsna perfectly


750117SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

 There is  another example: the potter’s wheel. Potter’s wheel is  producing

earthen pots. So what is the cause? Somebody will say  that “The dirt,

earth, is the cause of this pot because it is made of  earth.” Another

will say, “No, the cause is the wheel. Because the wheel  is going

around, therefore it is coming out.” But these two  causes, prakrti and

pradhana, ingredients and the instrument, they are not  causes. The

cause is the potter. Cause is the potter. The  potter is giving force

going around. You have seen it. With the rod it moves  like that. When

the wheel is in motion, then the earth is brought into a  shape of

different shape of pots. Therefore material cause,  remote cause,

efficient cause–they are not cause. Real cause is  Krsna,



750117SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

  Now, sastra  says that avicyutah arthah. Arthah means purpose. If

somebody asks, “What is the purpose of becoming  scientist? What is the

purpose of becoming physicist?” so different men will  give different

answers: “It is meant for this purpose. It is meant for  this purpose.”

But kavibhih, those who are actually learned, advanced  learning, they

have said that avicyuta. Avicyuta means without any  failure, without

any contradiction. You say that chemistry is required for  this

purpose. I say chemistry is required for this purpose.  Another man

says chemistry is required for this purpose. But  difference of

opinion. That is not accepted. Avicyuta, infallible  purpose. What is

that infallible purpose? Avicyutah arthah kavibhir  nirupitah. Nirupita

means it is already settled. You haven’t got to make  research anymore.

Nirupita means it is already concluded. What is  that?

Yad-uttamasloka-gunanuvarnanam. If you can explain the  activities of

Krsna,  Uttamasloka, how He is acting, how is the chemical process is

going on under His direction, if you can write a thesis  on this

subject matter, that ultimately Krsna is behind that,  then your this

study of chemistry is perfect. Avicyutah arthah  kavibhir nirupitah.

Nirupita means it is concluded. No more argument. That  is the purpose.

That means if you are intelligent enough actually, then  through any

source of knowledge you come ultimately to Krsna. That  mayadhyaksena

prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram. The Krsna says. But if by  your

education, if you come to the same point, that “Here is  Krsna. He is

in the background, sarva-karana-karanam, cause of all  causes,” then

that education is perfect. Otherwise it is srama eva hi  kevalam.

Otherwise it is simply laboring for nothing, waste of  time


►750117SB.BOM                   Lectures

… also one of the varieties. So how we can become  variety-less,

nirvisesa? That is not possible. Even artificially we try  to become

nirvisesa, variety-less, our constitutional position is  that we want

variety. How it can be stopped? Therefore in the  sastra it is said,

the so-called Mayavadi, impersonalist, monist,  aruhya krcchrena param

padam tatah, although they get … lotus feet, they  come down again in

this material world and worship the feet of maya. That is  their

position. Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah  patanty adhah. And as

soon as you are engaged in the service of maya, that is  your adhah

patanti. Adhah patanti. As we, all these materialistic  person who are

within this material, you are serving maya… Everyone is  serving.

Nobody is without serving. But they are serving maya. So  you have to

transfer your service from maya to Krsna. Then  your life will be

successful and you will taste different varieties of  prasadam perpetually and  enjoy

life eternally and blissfully. Thank you very  much.


 750118SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

abhinivesa. The mind being affected by the material  contamination, we

are suffering so-called miserable condition of life. It  is due to the

mind. Otherwise, as it is said, one man is satisfied in a  very poor

condition of life, and another man is not satisfied even  in the best

opulent condition of life. Why? It is due to the  mind. It is due to

the mind….

…                        bhoktaram yajna-tapasam


                         suhrdam sarva-bhutanam

                       jnatva mam santim rcchati


Santi. If we learn these three things, then we’ll get  santi. Santi,

that is clearly explained in Caitanya-caritamrta also. It  is said in

the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna says, jnatva mam. “Me,” Krsna  says–person.

Just like “Give me.”

   So  Krsna says, jnatva mam. What is that? So we have to know  Krsna,

that He is actually enjoyer. Master and servant. If the  servant knows

that “In this house my master is the proprietor. He is  the enjoyer. I

am simply servant,” then he is peaceful. But if he  artificially tries

to become the master although he is servant there, then  there is all

disturbance. So here our miserable conditions  are caused by our

thinking that “I am the proprietor. I am the  owner. I am the enjoyer.”

One becomes to owner, proprietor, because he wants to  enjoy. So this

is our disease. Actually, we are servant of Krsna. Jivera  svarupa haya

nitya-krsna-dasa. This is our original position. We are  servant, even

in this condition. But we are servant of maya,  illusion–means we are

servant of our lusty desires, kama, krodha, anger, lobha,  greediness,

moha, illusion, so many, mada, madness. We are servant of  these

propensities. We are not master. When you become master  of these sense

gratification processes, then you are svami


750119SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

aroma from the earth. So the good smell of the flower…  In some other

place it is said in the Bhagavatam that the…, when you  see flower,

you see Krsna smiling. That is the seeing of Krsna  smiling. Therefore

the flower should be utilized for Krsna’s service. 


750121SB.BOM                    Lectures                   223317/530501

 This  material world means first of all we

have got desire of sex, mixing together, man and woman  ..This morning was…

Some devotee was discussing that the daily passengers,  sometimes they

go from home three to four hours, come to Bombay, and  they work their

eight hours. Then again three to four hours. So  somebody was asking,

“Why they should go? They can remain in the city.” No.  Their central

point is there. Central point is  sex. Nidraya hriyate naktam vyavayena

ca va vayah. The materialistic person’s life is being  spoiled in this

way.    That is described by Sukadeva Gosvami. Nidraya hriyate naktam:  “At

night they spoil the valuable time by sleeping.” Nidraya  hriyate

naktam vyavayena ca va vayah. Vyavaya. Vyavaya means sex.  “Either by

sex or by sleeping.” Diva carthehaya rajan  kutumba-bharanena va: “And

during daytime they are after money, ‘Where is money?  Where is money?’

And if they get money, ‘How to spend it for kutumba, for  family

members?’ ” This is material life


►750121SB.BOM                   Lectures

…  but if  we take it, accept it as prasadam after offering Krsna…

In the Vaisnava philosophy, if somebody is going to use  one new pair

of cloth, first of all he offers to Krsna. Then he  utilizes. That is

Vaisnava philosophy. There is also eating,  sleeping. We require

residence. Everything we require. But we require it  …


750122SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

So ether, the sky, we cannot see, we cannot touch, we  cannot smell.

But we can hear the sound. As soon as there is sound,  that, we know

that there is ether or sky. The sound vibration… As we  have got

experience of this material sound and therefore the  material sky,

similarly, there is spiritual sound and there is  spiritual sky.

Without sky, there is no sound. So there is spiritual  sky. We get

information from sastra: paravyoma. Vyoma is called sky,  and there is

another sky. This is material sky, what we have  experience. There is

spiritual sky.. So after this sky, there is another  sky, and the

sound produced from that sky is omkara and Hare Krsna  mantra. This is

the sound vibration from the spiritual sky. Therefore it  is effective

immediately. Just like you contact thousands of  miles away–somebody

is speaking, and you can contact by the sound vibration  you catch up

with your machine, radio machine–similarly, the sound  vibration from

the spiritual sky you can also receive. That is Hare  Krsna mantra.

    Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura has described this Hare  Krsna

mantra, “not of this material sky.” Golokera  prema-dhana,

hari-nama-sankirtana. Hari-nama-sankirtana, this is not a  material


750122SB.BOM                    Lectures                  

    But in the spiritual world, the name and the person or  the

substance is the same. There is no difference. Krsna and  Krsna’s name

is the same. There is no difference. Therefore,  those who are chanting

“Krsna, Krsna, Krsna,” they are becoming more and more  engladdened,

enthusiastic to chant. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. Caitanya  Mahaprabhu

says, “By chanting Hare Krsna, the first installment of  benefit is

ceto-darpana-marjanam: you become cleansed of your heart,  cleansed of

the contamination of your heart.” There are many verses.  Srnvatam

sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. If you don’t  get anything

because there is nama-aparadha, offenses in  chanting… There are ten

kinds of offenses. So if you can avoid the offenses…  The name is

pure, “Krsna.” But even though it is chanted  offensive, by chanting,

chanting, you become cleansed.  Ceto-darpana-marjanam. It may take

little time, but be sure that your consciousness will be  cleansed,

clear, transparent, and that is Krsna  consciousness.


►750601SB.HON                   Lectures

… by the spiritual master. So how is that?” He was  feeling little

agitation. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately encouraged  him, “Don’t

hesitate.” This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s example. He is  teaching

everything by His personal example. His purpose was  that in this

Kali-yuga the distinction between brahmana, ksatriya,  vaisya, sudra

will be almost finished.


…750601SB.HON                    Lectures                   223377/530501

   Now,  this Devahuti’s position is a perfect woman. She got good

father, she got good husband, and she got excellent  son. So woman has

got three stages in life. Man has got ten stages.  These three stages

mean that when she is younger, she must live under the  protection of

father. Just like Devahuti when she was grown up, young,  she proposed

her father that “I want to marry that gentleman, that  yogi.” And the

father also offered. So, so long she was not married she  remained

under the protection of the father. And when she was  married she

remained with the yogi husband.


750601SB.HON                    Lectures                   223383/530501

rajo-guna, tamo-guna, you can make progress spiritual  life. Because we

must be in either of these. Just like a train is going  on: there is

first class, second class, third class. So because the  train is going,

either you place yourself in the first-class compartment  or second

class, you will go. You will go. It is not that  because you are

situated in the third-class compartment the your train  is not going.

No, you can go. Similarly, Bhagavad-gita has taught  that one can go

back to home, back to Godhead, in any position, provided  he knows how

to tackle the situation.

    Sva-dharma. Sva-dharma will be explained, and it is explained  in

the Bhagavad… Sva-dharma means one may be in goodness,  one may be in

passion, one may be in darkness, and one may be in  mixture. So that is

divided into four classes of men: the brahmana, ksatriya,  vaisya, and

sudra. So Bhagavad-gita teaches us that anyone, if he  worships the

Supreme Personality of Godhead by sva-dharma, by his  occupational

duty, he also becomes perfect. For example, just like  Arjuna. He was a

military man, and his sva-dharma, his occupational duty,  was to fight.

So that fighting capacity he engaged himself in the  service of Krsna,

and he became a devotee. Krsna certified, bhakto  ‘si. What did he do?

He did not chant Hare Krsna mantra. Of course, he was  chanting Hare

…Krsna mantra constantly because he was thinking of  Krsna. He had no

other business than to think of Krsna. But by formality  he did not

become a Vaisnava or chanting. But he was always thinking  of Krsna.

Therefore he is certified as the foremost yogi.  Yoginam api sarvesam.

   So  that is the trick–how we shall always think of Krsna even  we

are engaged in our occupation duty. That will make us  perfect.


751026SB.NAI                    Lectures                   223397/530501

if you do not understand, then you are animal. Here is a  practical

example. How it has become possible that the white  Americans,

Europeans, and other colors and the black African, they  have forgotten

everything? When they chant Hare Krsna and dance, do  they remember

that “I am African,” “I am American,” “I am Indian”?  No.

Brahma-bhutah. (devotee laughs) (aside:) Why you are  laughing? It is

so important thing.

   So  this is brahma-bhutah stage.


                       brahma-bhutah prasannatma

                         na socati na kanksati

                         samah sarvesu bhutesu

                       mad-bhaktim labhate param


This is brahma-bhutah stage, practical, not that “I am  Brahman. I am

the same God.” These rascals have spoiled the whole  thing. Here is

brahma-bhutah stage, when you forget your material  identification and

you become one in connection with Krsna, that “We are all  devotees,

servants of Krsna. Let us enjoy, chant Hare Krsna and  dance.” This is

brahma-bhutah stage, not that artificially smoking  cigarette and he

has become brahma-bhutah. He is cigarette-bhutah.  Bhuta and cigarette

smoker. How he is brahma-bhutah? These rascals say like  that, table

talks, “I am Brahman.” Brahman. Doing all nonsense and he  has become



751027SB.NAI                    Lectures                  

   So  dhyayed devam samagrangam. The dhyana, the meditation, should

begin from the lotus feet. As soon as you begin  kirtana, first of all

concentrate your mind on the lotus feet, not all of a  sudden jump over

the face. Be practiced to think over the lotus feet, then  still

higher, the knees, then the thighs, then the belly, then  the chest. In

this way, at last go to the face. This is the  process. It is described

in the Second Canto. The process is how to think of  Krsna. Man-mana

bhava mad-bhaktah. This is meditation.

. Pious means there is no reaction of sinful life. It is  all squared up. That you can do at any moment. Krsna takes charge. Krsna says,  buddhih sarva-papebhyo

moksayisyami. He can do that. He can nullify the  destiny.


….751027SB.NAI                    Lectures                  

devotional service, especially this sravanam, kirtanam  and arcanam,

arcanam, worshiping the Deity, and sravanam kirtanam.  Even if you

follow one, that is sufficient, but there are nine  different

processes. As far as possible, we shall execute  everything, and, at

least, sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam,  arcanam. Arcana

is very important. For kanistha-adhikari, devotee in the  lower stage,

arcana is very, very important. Although the  devotee in the higher

stage, he also offers worship, but Krsna is everywhere.  For a neophyte

devotee Just like some people say that “Why you should  go to the

temple? Krsna is everywhere.” Who was asking that  question? “Krsna

cannot be served…” Here, last night. I think those  girls, svarna(?)

girls. Krsna is everywhere, that is a fact, but that  is for the

paramhamsa, one who is very very advanced. For the  kanistha-adhikari,

he cannot He, like parrot, he can say, “Krsna is  everywhere.” He must

be educated, “Here is Krsna in the temple.” Otherwise it  is simply

blaspheme, that “Krsna is everywhere.” That’s a  fact, but where is

your realization? Krsna is within your heart. Have you  got that

realization? Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ‘rjuna  tisthati. Have you

got that realization, that Krsna is within your heart?  Can you talk

with Krsna? He says, Krsna says, “I talk.” Buddhi  yogam-dadami tam.

Krsna gives intelligence. Krsna is giving, but have you  got that


   So  these are all facts, that Krsna is everywhere, Krsna is within

your heart, Krsna is within the atom.  Andantara

stha-paramanu-cayantara-tham. That’s a fact, but where  is your

realization? Therefore you have to begin realization by  arcana. That

is very essential. Then more you become expert in arcana,  ye yatha mam

prapadyante, the more you become realized, then more you  become

advanced. So therefore, for kanistha-adhikari, he has to  raise


…                           arcayam eva haraye

                        yah pujam sraddhayehate

                        na tad-bhaktesu canyesu

                       sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah


By executing this arca-vigraha, arcanam, gradually you  advance. But if

you simply remain in the arcana-viddhi or arcana process,  and you

cannot understand who is a bhakta and what to do with  others… That

is also a bhakta’s duty, not that simply we shall remain  engaged in

arcana. We must know how to respect devotee, how to do  some service to

others also. That is madhyama-adhikari. Simply if you  become

satisfied, that “Now I am initiated and I am offering  arcana. I have

become perfect,” no, the perfection is still  awaiting. You have to

understand who is a devotee. You have to understand  how to give

service to the innocent. If you do not know that, then if  you simply

become packed up by arca-vigraha-seva, arcana, then you  will remain in

the material platform. Na tad-bhaktesu canyesu sa  bhaktah prakrtah

smrtah. Prakrtah means material. He is trying to go  to the spiritual

platform, but if he simply remains in  the arcana and does not preach,

this is na tad-bhaktesu canyesu. Anyesu. Anyesu  means those who are

innocent. That is madhyama-adhikari, middle  stage.


… So we should remain tad-adhina, always

under Krsna. That is our perfection. If we remain just  like in Western

countries–they rebel. If a woman is advised to remain  under the

control of the husband, that is insult to them. They  cannot tolerate

it. But actually we see in India that a wife who remains  under the

guidance of the husband, she is happy. That’s a practical  fact. That

is a practical fact. And therefore in the Manu-samhita it  is advised,

na striyam svatantram arhati.  Women should be always protected.  That

is… Protection does not mean negligence, no. Protection  means to

give him (her) all facilities. That is protection.  Just like father

gives protection to the chil… That does not mean  neglecting.

Similarly, a woman should be protected. It is not that  neglecting.

They misunderstand. In the Western countries maybe there  is

misbehavior, but actually we have seen, still going on in  India, the

woman is… That is the ideal given by Lord Ramacandra,  how woman is

given protection by the husband. Sitadevi was kidnapped.  Ramacandra is

the Supreme Lord. He could have married many thousands of  Sita, but as

the dutiful husband, to rescue one wife He killed the  whole family of

Ravana. This is protection. He killed the whole  family of him. He

became… This is. So woman requires protection, and  the husband is

responsible to give protection, the father is responsible  to give

protection, and the elderly children, they are resonsible  to give



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 Just like a  father is always anxious to see his

children are well protected, similarly, Krsna is also  always anxious

to give protection to His subordinates. But if the  subordinate

denounce Krsna, “I don’t want Your protection,” then  suffer your

karma. That you are doing. Those who are in the  material world, they

are suffering. Why? They have given up the protection of  Krsna. They

are thinking that “We can protect ourself. What is the  use of Krsna?”

So this is called dharmasya glanih. This is deviation  from the natural

way of life, when you give up the protection. 


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Brahmananda: His question… You stated that a statue  of yourself is

not the same as you, and yet in some of our  temples, such as

Vrndavana, the murti of Your Divine Grace has been  installed and they

are offering prasadam. So is it the same, that the  prasadam is

accepted by the guru?

Prabhupada: Yes. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih.  Guru is

nondifferent from Krsna. That is accepted by all the  sastra.

Saksad-dharitvena samasta sastraih. Saksad-dharitvena  samasta-sastrair

uktah: “It is said,” tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih, “and  those who are

advanced devotees, they accept it like that.” Kintu  prabhor yah priya

eva tasya: “But the guru’s position is the most  confidential servant.”

So guru is the servant God, and Krsna is the master God.  Both of them

are God, servant God and master God. Guru krsna krpaya  paya

bhakti-lata-bija. So we have to serve both the servant  and the master.

Through the servant, we go to the master. Any other  question? Chant

Hare Krsna.


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For the hatha-yogis, they have to select place,  asana.

Dhyana, dharana, asana… Asana is also one of the  activities. But

here, in Vaisnava philosophy, you are seeing the Deity  always, at

least daily, so you have got some impression that “Our  temple Deity is

like this.” That impression, either you are sitting in  one place

without any activities, sthitam vrajantam… While  walking on the

street also, you can think of this Deity. There is no  difficulty,

either you are sitting or you are walking or you are  standing, any

way. Because the mind is there in Krsna, in Krsna’s form.  Therefore

Deity worship is so essential for the neophyte. He can  have always the

opportunity to think of the Supreme Lord by the  impression of the

Deity within the mind. Sayanam. Even in lying down, even  talking.

   So  this is our process. This is the perfect process. You don’t

require any artificial method to think of God. It is  natural. If you

simply come to the temple daily, chant in the front of  the Deity, Hare

Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama,  Hare Rama, Rama

Rama, Hare Hare, then you become advanced  immediately.


….this process, this arcana process. If we… Everyone  alternately they

should learn how to worship. That will give the  impression of the Lord

within the heart, and then, either you are walking or you  are sitting

or you are lying or you are eating or you are talking,  you’ll always

think of Krsna. This is the process. It will be  automatically done.

Sthitam vrajantam asinam sayanam va guhasayam.  Generally the yogis,

they try to find out the Visnu murti within the core  of the heart, but

this is as good. When you are walking on the street,  then, if you are

thinking, there will be no hindrance to your activities,  but you can

think of Krsna. Sa vai manah krsnah. Just like Maharaja  Ambarish. He

was emperor. He had many responsibilities, but he  practiced how to

think of Krsna always. Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor  vacamsi

    vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane. You engage your senses.

   So  this is practice. First of all think of the Deity. First of  all

think of the lotus feet, then the knees, then the  eyes, then the

belly, then the chest. In this way, as you become  practiced, then go

further, advance. In this way, when you become fully  practiced, then

automatically, in whatever condition you are, you will be  able to

meditate upon Krsna. That is the highest perfection of  life. Satatam

kirtayanto mam. Satatam cintayanto mam. If you always  think of Krsna,


… know. As soon as they see these Hare Krsna  movement people, they

also chant, “Hare Krsna,” giving a chance to the others.  The dress is

also required. You should be always equipped with tilaka,  kunti, and

sikha, sutra. Then, as soon as a common man sees, “Oh,  here is a Hare

Krsna man. Hare Krsna,” he’ll chant. Automatically you  give a chance

to chant Hare Krsna.

   So  this is required. The foolish rascals, they say that “What  is

the necessity of this, that?” No. This is necessity. You  must always

remain dressed like a Vaisnava. That is necessity. So preksaniya: “is

very beautiful to see.” Otherwise how they became  impressed?

Immediately they become so pious that they chant Hare  Krsna. The

chanting of Hare Krsna is not so easy. So many people  come here, but

when there is chanting, they do not chant because it is  not easy.

Yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. In the sastra it is said, aho  bata

sva-pacato ‘pi gariyan yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. Anyone  who is

chanting Hare Krsna, jihvagre, with the tongue, even if  he is born in

a family of dog-eaters he is glorious. He is glorious.  Yaj-jihvagre

nama tubhyam. So we give this chance. As soon as he  chants Hare Krsna,

immediately he becomes glorious. Immediately become  glorious.


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no sun, then what is the value of this world? We have got  good

experience. In the Western countries where there is no  sun, it is

hell, simply hell, simply hell without sun. All the  condemned

countries are devoid of sunlight. This morning we were  speaking that

London, it is without sunlight practically throughout the  whole year.

Long ago, in 1969, in the television, the television man  asked me that

“Where is hell?” and “It is here in London.” (laughter) 


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   That  is described in the sastra. Yasya prabha prabhavato

jagad-anda-koti. Krsna’s body is bluish or blackish;  therefore you see

the sky bluish because the rays in the spiritual world is  effulgence,

bluish effulgence, and that is being reflected through  the sky. Yasya

prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti. His bodily light is  being reflected

in millions and trillions of universes. Yasya  prabha prabhavato

jagad-anda-koti. Jagad-anda. Jagad-anda means… Anda, it  is round.

….lokan punar avartino ‘rjuna. Don’t think that by going  to the heavenly

planet you’ll be happy there. No. There is no  possibility. Either you

go to the heavenly planet or you go to the hell, you will  have to

undergo the threefold miserable conditions.


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Prabhupada: Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam  priti-purvakam. When Krsna

sees that “He is worshiping Me with faith and reverence  and love,”

then buddhi-yogam dadami tam. He’ll give you  intelligence. He is

within you. Therefore I was saying, “First of all  become fit. First of

all deserve. Then desire.” Why foolishly you desire  something for

which you do not deserve? That is your fault. That is  misuse. Don’t

desire something without being deserving. So these  are the process

given how to think, how to meditate upon Krsna. So  practice it. Become

qualified. Then you’ll see everything. Without being  qualified, why

you want to see? This devotional service means practicing  how to

become qualified. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam,  sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam

tat-paratvena nirmalam. You have to become fully  cleansed.

Tat-paratvena nirmalam. Sarva… What is that?  Anyabhilasita-sunyam.

We have to become completely zero about material  desires.

Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Then you become qualified. So long  you have got

any pinch of material desires, you are  disqualified.


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belongs to God. And we, we are, because we are His sons,  we have got

the right to use our father’s property, but not  illegally. What is

allotted to us by our father we can accept, that’s  all. One who

lives… That is stated in the Isopanisad, that kurvann  eveha karmani

jijivisec chatam samah. If you accept this principle,  then you can

live for hundreds of years without any sin. Otherwise you  become

complicated in the laws of material nature. And so  long we are

complicated, entangled by the laws of material nature,  then we shall

have to transmigrate from this one kind of body to  another kind of

body, and our material existence will be  prolonged.


690120SB.LA                     Lectures                  

accustomed to this habit, but by my order they have  restrained. In the

beginning there is plot of land and a cow–your whole  economic

question is solved. Why you should work so hard day and  night? So we

have created a civilization simply working hard day and  night, and the

purpose is sense gratification. That’s all. That is  prohibited. Make

your life simplified. Save your time for Krsna  consciousness. That is

the program. Don’t be implicated with sinful activities.  Simple life.

Just like your father says, “My dear boy, you take your  food just in

time, and you do this work, and I’ll be satisfied.” If  you do that,

then father is satisfied. But if you take from the pocket  of your

father or from the cash box without his permission, then  you are


   So by  God’s arrangement, everything is there. Everything.  Purnam

idam. Purnam idam purnam adah purnam idam purnat purnam  udacyate.

Everything is complete in this world. There is no  scarcity. We have

simply created scarcity by our mismanagement. But if we take up the

laws as they are prescribed in the scriptures and live  peacefully,

there is no scarcity. My Guru Maharaja used to say that  in this world

there is no scarcity by the arrangement of God.  But the only scarcity

is this Krsna consciousness. People are not Krsna  conscious. They’re

materially conscious. They’re sensually conscious. That  has to be



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body…” Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke. Deha-bhajam means  there are

other living entities also. There are 8,400,000 different  forms of

living entities. Out of them, only 400,000 forms of  bodies are human

beings. Out of the 400,000 species of human beings,  mostly they are

uncivilized. And out of them, a very few men are  civilized. And out of

many civilized persons, a very few know what is Vedic  knowledge. And

out of many persons who know Vedic knowledge, they do  not act

according to the Vedic instructions. And those who  act, they are attached to

karma-kandiya-vicara, fruitive activities. Just like  perform yajnas

and be elevated to the heavenly planets. These are  called

karma-kandiya-vicara. Out of many thousands of these  persons who are

attached to karma-kandiya chapter of Vedas, one,  somebody may be

jnani. Jnani means “one who knows, one who is in  perfect knowledge.”

Not perfect knowledge, but searching after knowledge,  jnani. And out

of many thousands of jnanis, one is mukta. Mukta means  liberated,

liberated from material body. And out of many  thousands of muktas,

there is very difficult to find out a devotee of  Krsna.


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So actually, in the  Western

countries, these things are ordinary things, so they do  not take it as

any bad thing or any sinful, but according to Vedic  sastra, these four

principles are the basic principles or the four pillars  of sinful

life. Striya-suna-pana-dyuta yatra papas  catur-vidha.

   So  the real purpose of life, as it is advised by Rsabhadeva: tapo

divyam. “My dear boys, just accept austerity and penances  for

transcendental realization,” divyam. Divyam means the  platform where

God can be understood. Just like Krsna says in the  Bhagavad-gita,

janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. If we can  understand God on

the transcendental platform, not in this material  platform by

imagination or speculation–that is not God. One has to  understand God

on the transcendental platform, suddha-sattva. Sattvam  visuddham

vasudeva-sabditam. On the vasudeva platform we can  understand

Vasudeva. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya. 


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any… Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate. When you  come to that

purest form of spirit soul, you don’t think that your  indriyas, or

senses, are lost. No. Senses are there. At that time,  if you enjoy

your senses in cooperation with the Supreme, that is  called bhakti, or

Krsna consciousness.

   So it  is not very difficult to become free from all designations.

It is not very difficult. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has  given us very

simple method, supported by Vedic injunction. What is  that? Param

vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam……   So unless one will come to the  platform of self-realization, we are in the trouble, so long we are not  self-realized. Parabhavas tavad

abodha-jato yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam. Without  self-realization,

whatever we are acting, we are piling up the stones and  woods and iron

in such skyscraper building. So we may do that,  but it is our defeat.

It is not conquering; it is defeat.  Parabhavas tavad abodha-jato yavan

na jijnasata atma-tattvam. If we don’t inquire about  ourself, “What I

am? Why I am put into this miserable condition of life,  birth, death,

old age, and there are so many other things…?” Unless  you come to

question why, your human life is not perfect.


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   So  when, after associating with the modes of goodness for  many,

many years–or not many, many years but many, many  lives–then one can

become very intelligent  brahmana.


                         bahunam janmanam ante

                        jnanavan mam prapadyate

                          vasudevah sarvam iti

                         sa mahatma sudurlabhah


After many, many births of this kind of contaminated  diseases and

births and body, when by culture of knowledge, by  austerities, by

penances, by brahminical culture, one becomes very, very  learned and

wise, at that time he can understand what is God–not  before that.

Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan. Not the rascals and  the fools can

understand what is God. Only the  jnanavan.


So after becoming Brahman realized soul, when he is fully  liberated

from material contamination–goodness passion  or

ignorance–prasannatma, na socati na kanksati, he has no  material

hankering, neither he laments for any material loss.  Samah sarvesu

bhutesu, when he visions all living entities as spirit  soul,

mad-bhaktim labhate param, at that time he is eligible  to understand

what is bhakti. And bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan  yas casmi tattvatah.

If you become bhakta, if you have got the opportunity to  come to that

platform, then you can understand God. Otherwise, God  is not so easy

to understand. (break–questions and  answers)


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that is unnatural. Because we are part and parcel of  God, we living

entities, we should be as happy as God is. That is our  position.

…. We are trying tobe happy fighting with  unhappiness, but we do not know our real

unhappiness are that we have to die, we have to take  birth again, we

have to become diseased and we have to accept old  age.

Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi duhkha-dosanudarsanam. This is  intelligence,

that “I am trying to solve all the problems of life by  advancement of

civilization, education, scientific knowledge and so many  things.

That’s all right. But what is the solution of my, these  four principle

of miserable condition: birth, death, old age and  disease?” And

because we cannot make any solution, we set aside  these four problems.

We go on with the temporary problems and become busy to  solve it, and

in this way we waste our, this valuable human form of  life like the

cats and dogs. This is the instruction.


…svabhava-jam. There must be sufficient milk in the human  society. If

you drink more milk and milk products, then your brain  will be very

sharp. You will understand things very nicely, corectly.  Therefore

milk is very important. In the Vedic sastra cow  protection is

recommended. Why? Because milk is very, very important  thing


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Prabhupada: No fate can be changed. I understand.  These questions are

generally put. Fate can be changed.

Guest (3): By name.

Prabhupada: By Krsna consciousness. Karmani nirdahati  kintu ca

bhakti-bhajam. Others cannot change their fate, but only  the devotees

can change. How? Krsna says, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo  moksayisyami.

Krsna says, “I shall give you protection from all the  resultant action

of your sinful life.” That is fate changed. If you  don’t surrender to

Krsna, then you have to suffer or enjoy the actions of  your fruitive

activities. But when you surrender to Krsna, He takes  charge of

squaring up all your sinful activities and their  reaction. That is…

So you surrender to Krsna; then your fate is changed.  Otherwise it is

not possible.


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Simply by… Caitanya Mahaprabhu has recommended not  whimsically. This is the prescription of this age:kirtanad eva krsnasya  mukta-sangah param vrajet. If you perfectly

chant this Hare Krsna mantra, kirtanad eva krsnasya–not  any other

name but Krsna–mukta-sangah: you can become free from  this material

association, or the contamination due to material  contact. That is the

special advantage of this  age


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   So  Caitanya Mahaprabhu, maha-vadanyavatara, He is patita-pavana.  He

is the deliverer of all the fallen souls. He has given us  this much

tapasya prescription. Tapasya must be there. And  that is very easy to

be done by us. It is not very difficult. One has to  become very

humble. That is the first qualification. Trnad api  sunicena. Sunicena

means lower than the grass. Just like we trample over the  grass; they

do not protest. Trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna.  And tolerant,

humbler than the grass and tolerant than the tree. A tree gives us all

benefit, but in return we give the tree so much trouble.  We snatch

away the twigs, we snatch away the leaves. Sometimes  for our fuel we

cut down. But there is no protest. So these things  have been taught by

Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Trnad api sunicena taror api  sahisnuna amanina

manadena. Nobody should think himself that he is very  prestigious

person, falsely. Nobody is prestigious. Everyone should  be humble. So

these three, four things we should learn, and that is  tapasya. And we

should avoid the sinful activities, namely, no illicit  sex, no

meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication. These are some  of the

positive and negative formulas given by Caitanya  Mahaprabhu. And if we

follow this tapasya and chant Hare Krsna, then our life  is successful.

…should be very careful not to become like cats and dogs  but to become

very humble–humbler than the grass and tolerant than the  tree.

Amanina. Everyone wants that “I am very honorable man,  prestigious

man. And you should respect me.” That is our material  disease. “I do

not want to respect you, but you should offer me  respect.” This is the

position. Therefore our system is to call another  Vaisnava as prabhu.

“Sir, you are prabhu, you are master.” But we call  prabhu, but I

think, “No, you are not prabhu; I am prabhu. You are  servant.” This

cheating process will not help us. Actually, we should  believe that he

is prabhu. “He is servant of Krsna; therefore he is my  prabhu.” This

is Vaisnava mentality. Gopi-bhartur  pada-kamalayor

dasa-dasa-dasa-dasanudasa. One who wants to become  servant of the

servant of the servant of the servant, he is actually  prabhu. If

falsely one thinks that “I am prabhu,” then his life  is spoiled. So

this word we use amongst ourself, prabhu, means that “I  am your

servant, you are my master.” But that should be  practically exhibited.

That is called tapasya, to learn all these  things.

    Without tapasya, we cannot get out of this conditioned state.  That

is not possible. Those who are thinking that “Let us do  whatever

nonsense I can do, and at the same time I become free  from this

material condition…” No. That is not possible. One  has to undergo



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   Now  in the bodily conception of life we are so much contaminated

that our existence is now polluted. Actually it is  polluted, because

Krsna says, na jayate na mriyate va kadacin na hanyate  hanyamane

sarire. This is our position. Our position is we never  take birth. We

are not subjected to take birth because we are part and  parcel of God,

spirit soul. And na jayate na mriyate va: we do not die.  How we are

seeing… Every day we are dying. My father die, my  brother die, my

neighbor die. How is that? Na hanyate hanyamane sarire.  This is our

position. We do not die, even the body is destroyed. So  where is that

knowledge throughout the whole world? There is no such…  There is no

university, no school, no college to impart this  knowledge, ….


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   So  the cause is godlessness. If we become godless, the prakrti  will

restrict supply–so much so there will be anavrsti. How  can control?

Because you may be very great scientist, you may deny the  existence of

God, but when there is anavrsti you are looking up in the  sky, “When

there will be cloud? When there will be rain?” Then  taking this plea,

our government will tax for relief fund. That is  all mentioned in

Srimad-Bhagavatam. Anavrsti karo-pidita. People will be  so much

harassed. And acchina-dara-dravina giri-kananam. They  will be so much

harassed by these three principles–no rainfall, scarcity  of grains,

and taxed heavily by the government… They will  be so much harassed

that acchinna-dara-dravina giri-kananam, they will be  forced to leave

home, that “Now it is hopeless. I cannot manage. Let me  go to the



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    Now when the man visited the prostitute’s house, she received  the

man. In India it is system that when you receive a  gentleman or lady

you must give him sumptuously to eat. So there was many  palatable

dishes served to the man, and each vegetable and each  preparation was

put in two pots–one in iron pots and one in golden pots.  So he was

eating. Now this man asked the prostitute, “Well, you  have given me

the same preparation in two pots: one in gold pot and one  in iron pot.

Why? What is the idea?” So she said that “First of all  taste it. Then

I shall disclose what is the idea.” So he was  tasting, eating. Then

the prostitute asked him, “How do you like?” “Oh, it is  very nice.”

Then, is there any different taste in the golden  pot?” “No. Same

taste.” “And the iron pot?” “Oh, the same taste.” So she  replied at

that time that “You are so rascal that you want to  gratify your

senses, but you do not know that sense gratification in  poor wife or

rich wife is the same. There is no difference of taste,  so why you are

after a woman by paying this one hundred thousands of  jewels?” The

idea is… This story is very instructive, and it is  mentioned in the

Srimad-Bhagavatam. The idea is the same thing… (break)  …sense

gratification is the ultimate aim of life, then why so  much hard

trouble for decorating the process of sense  gratification? Why wasting

so much time for  decorating?

   So  Rsabhadeva is asking that sense gratification there is

necessity, because we have got senses. But not with  too much trouble,

accepting too much trouble in the name of economic  development.

Because our time is very valuable. If we want to  utilize our short

duration of life which we have got at our disposal, we  must utilize it

for self-realization, not for unnecessarily increasing  the necessities

of bodily wants. This is not a good type of  civilization, simply

wasting time for sense gratification. Time should be  utilized for

greater advantage.


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The instruction is still standing, Krsna

said, sarva-dharman parityajya, “Just simply surrender  unto Me.” But

nobody is doing that. God says that, “You surrender unto  Me; I shall

give you all protection.” There is assurance. But we are  so

unfortunate that we cannot believe or cannot be assured  on the words

of God also. We do not believe. “Oh, God cannot give us  protection.

Let me try my own technology. I shall protect  myself.” This is the

world(?). That means he’s not detached with these  material activities.



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their food. Everyone is working hard; they also come. So  animals also,

they (are) also working very hard. That is given example,  the hogs and

dogs. That is restricted. If you go on working for  better standard of

life, then you’ll be attached to this work and your mind  will be

absorbed in such work. And if the mind continues to be  absorbed in

working so hard, then after giving up this body, you’ll  have to accept

another body to fulfill such desires within the  mind. Krsna will give

you full facility.

    Rsabhadeva says that simply for sense gratification, don’t work  so

much. Actually, we haven’t got to work. Everything is  there. We have

repeatedly discussed. Just like in the morning the  birds get up, they

do not work very hard. They know that “We shall go in  some, upon some

tree, and there is food, there is some fruit, and we  shall eat.” There

is no, no good prob…, very great problem. The  animals also, they are

assured, everyone is assured. And even human  being, just like

sannyasis, they are also assured. Just like when I came  to your

country, there was no friend, there was no relative, but  assurance was

there that “I am going for Krsna’s business. So there  is some

provision, never mind where it is.” That much faith we  must have.

Actually, for even one is not Krsna conscious, one is not  devotee of

Krsna, he has also provision. That provision is there.  Why should we

work so hard? Our business is to save time how to become  advanced in

Krsna consciousness. But people cannot understand  this.

    Now, how to become detached from this habit of hard working,  that

is suggested here. It is said, mahat-sevam dvaram ahur  vimuktes.

Mahat-seva, saintly persons, if you associate with them,  if you serve

them, try to serve them, that practice is still in  India.


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this custom is prevalent in India, as soon as somebody  sees a sannyasi

has come in a temple, somebody from the village, not  somebody, but

many will come, “Sir, you can take your lunch at my  place.” So there

is no scarcity. Many people will come to invite you  still. Therefore

many pseudo or phony swamis, they have taken this  profession because

there is no difficulty getting food. So, mahat-seva.  The… What is

the idea? The idea is the grhasthas, they know that  “We are simply

engaged in the matter of sense gratification. If we  invite some

saintly person at home, if he eats at my place, then, we  commit so

many sinful activities, we’ll be saved.” This is the  process.

Therefore, a sannyasi is advised to accept prasadam in  the house of a

brahmana, because a brahmana is supposed to be, become  very pious. If

you take foodstuff from impious men, then that means you  are taking

share of his impious activities. But a saintly  person, they can

digest, but if (they) cannot digest, then you have to  suffer. This is

the process. Then he has to suffer. Therefore the  safety principle is

to accept luncheon in a pious family, where there is  Vaisnava family

or brahmana family. Not that anywhere we can accept  cooked food.

Sometimes we have to do it, but that is against  principle. We should

not accept food anywhere and everywhere, unless he is  pious.


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   What  is that sound? Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman

arhate vid-bhujam ye. This daytime, or nighttime, we  work so hard, but

what is the aim. Aim is to satisfy senses. Ask  these people all over

the world, especially in the western country. They are  making so many

plans. Yesterday, when we were coming by the plane,  the whole two

hours one man was working, making some calculation. So  everybody is

busy, very, very busy, but if you ask him, “Why you are  working so

hard? What is the aim?” The aim, he has nothing to say  except sense

gratification, that’s all. He has no more aim. He  may think that “I

have got a big family, I have to maintain them,” or “I  have got so

much responsibility.” But what is that? That is simply  sense

gratification. Even we manufacture so many “isms”,  philanthropism,

humanitarianism, nationalism, socialism, so many. But  what are these

“isms”? That is also sense gratification. I satisfy my  senses. I want

to see that the senses of my brothers, senses of my  sisters, senses of

my friends, or senses of my society people, or my nation,  countrymen,

they are satisfied. The business is sense  gratification. Just like in

our country we got Mahatma Gandhi. So he started, he is  supposed to be

father of the nation. There are many leaders in different  countries.

But if we, I mean to, take account of their business, it  is sense

gratification, that’s all. Extended sense  gratification. These are

just like Marx, what is his name, full  name?

Devotee: Karl Marx.

Prabhupada: Karl Marx. He is thinking how the laborer,  the worker,

their senses will be gratified. That is his  philosophy. Is it not?

Devotee: Yes.

Prabhupada: He’s thinking that the capitalist, they are  satisfying

only their senses in luxuriously, why not the laborers  who are

actually working. That is his philosophy. The central  point is sense

gratification. Just try to understand. The whole world is  busy in

different labels, but the central point is sense  gratification. That’s

all. Is anybody has anything to say against this, here  present? But

here Rsabhadeva says nrloke kastan kaman arhate, na  arhate. Na ayam

deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam  ye. Such kind

of hard work, it is done by the dogs and hogs also. So  does it mean

that we shall have to work, we have got this human form  of body, and

we have to work just like dogs and hogs. Actually they’re  doing so.

Nothing more than that. The dogs and hogs, they’re  busy all day and

night for the same thing: how to eat, how to sleep, how  to have sex

life, how to defend. The man is also working in the same  way, under

different label only. Nationalism, socialism, this “ism”  that “ism”,

but the action of the dog and hog and the human society,  so-called

civilized, the point is the same. So Rsabhadeva  says that the dogs and

hogs they are working so hard for sense gratification,  but this human

form of body is not meant for that. It is for different  path.


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   They  are so callous, just like animal. They cannot think that there

is possibility of not being slaughtered. When they are  taken in the

slaughter house, they agree to go because they know there  is no other

way. We have been made, meant for being  slaughtered. Actually that is

the position. The poor animals, they have no power to  protest, neither

combinedly they can give you fighting, to the human  being. You will

see one hundred cows are being driven by one boy or  one man. They are

so helpless. If they combine, with their horns they  can immediately

kill that man, but they have no intelligence. They do not  know how to

fight. Sometimes they fight, but this is position  of the rascals and

fools. Take the example, one cow or one bull is quite  strong enough to

kill ten men. He has got so much strength. But because he  has no

intelligence, because he is animal, hundreds of cows and  bulls are

being driven by one man to the  slaughterhouse.

   So  the, this intelligence, that is difference between the animal

and the man. If one hundred men was being taken away  like that,

immediately the man who was taking to kill them,  immediate, why one

hundred, ten men would have been sufficient, or two men  would have

been sufficiently stronger. They would not tolerate.  Similarly we are

also being driven by the laws of nature to accept  these

inconveniences, repetition of birth, death, old age,  and disease.


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We have seen, that is, nature has got example,

everything, you can study. You’ll find in  Srimad-Bhagavatam that by

studying nature you can get so many instruction,  perfect. So one

devotee made the nature his spiritual master, and  studying nature and

getting so much information. So if you study like  that, here as it is

given, the example, vid-bhujam ye. So vid-bhujam means  the pigs or the

hog. They are also eating nicely, getting fat, and having  sex

intercourse very freely, so does it mean that human being  is also

meant for this business, like the hogs and dogs. This is  the point.


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gratification, and produce more product for sense  enjoyment. This is

modern civilization. All these factories… I  understand that in this

country the farmers are taxed so heavily that they are  forced to work

in the factory. This is a policy of the government  leaders to engage

people. If anyone wants to live peacefully, save  time for developing

Krsna consciousness, then the leaders of the society or  the government

will not allow him to do so. This is the  position.


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   But  so far we can see, those who are busy with bolts and nuts, how

this dull brain, they can manufacture such things? That  is not

possible. Actually, human life is meant for that purpose  to understand

God and His potencies and to revive our old (own)  relationship with

Him. That is the main business. But unfortunately, they  are being

engaged in factories, in other work, to work like hogs  and dogs, and

their whole energy is being spoiled. Not only spoiled,  but their

characters, they are working so hard, so after working  so hard they

must drink intoxication. Then after drinking, they must  eat meat.

After this combination, they require sex. So in this way,  they’re kept

in the darkness. And here, these verses of  Rsabhadeva, he says

warning. He’s warning, He’s speaking to his sons, but we  can take the

lesson. That he says: nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke  kastan kaman

arhate vid-bhujam ye. Kaman means the necessities of  life. You can get

your necessities of life very easily. By tilling the  field, you get

grains. And if there is cow, you get milk. That’s all.  That is

sufficient. But the leaders are making plan, that if they  are

satisfied with their farming work, little grains and  milk, then who

will work in the factory? Therefore they are taxing so  that you cannot

live even simple life–this is the position–even if you  desire.


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 And a Krsna  conscious person, he’s also sleeping. But there are different grades. The Krsna  conscious person is sleeping, chanting Hare Krsna. This can be done. If  you

practice this Hare Krsna, even in sleeping you’ll chant  Hare Krsna.

Everything depends on practice. Abhyasa-yoga-yuktena cetasa

nanya-gamina. Everything we acquire by spiritual  practice.


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   The  qualification of this material world are two. So long you  live,

it is always full of miseries. And if you try to make  compromise–“All

right, I shall live here. Never mind it is  miserable”–that is also

temporary. You cannot live also. You cannot…  Suppose you think that

“All right, I have got this American body, American  country. Never

mind there are some sufferings due to this body. I  shall live here.”

Oh, you cannot live. You cannot. You’ll not be allowed to  live also.

How long? Therefore the qualifications of this  material world are two.

It is full of misery and it is temporaryBut our demand is full of

pleasure and eternal life. Just opposite.  But the foolish persons,

they do not understand. They think, “Oh, we are very much  happy.” Oh.

How we are happy? Supposing you are feeling happy. How  long you’ll be

happy? Any moment you’ll have to give up this place. Take  example,

your President Kennedy. He approached to the most  happiest position,

president, young man, good wife, children. Within a  second, everything

finished. Within a second. He was going on car  very nicely, protected,

thinking protection, but just in a moment–finished. So  that

possibility is for everyone. Even the President of  America, Mr.

Kennedy, he could not save himself, in spite of so much  power and

opulence. And what of us? We have to think, you see, very  with cool

head that every arrangement here in this world, however  nice you may

think, however you may be free, they are all temporary,  all temporary,

backed up by full of misery. Unless one is not  conversant with this

principle of life, he cannot actually seriously take up  what is Krsna



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have no other information. They are simply engaged in  sense

gratification: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending.  That’s all.

Their business finished. They do not know anything else.  If I call

some animals… Why people are not taking part in this  Krsna

consciousness? Because they are animals. They are  appearing with four

hands and legs, but they have been trained to become  animals. So they

cannot take. But we are trying to train them from  animalism to

humanism by associating with this Krsna consciousness  movement. This

Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s movement is to give chance to this  animalistic

civilization to associate with devotees and mahatmas so  that they can

also become devotee and mahatma. You associate with  mahatma, you

become mahatma. You associate with debauch, you become  debauch.

Practical. We have taken from the debauchery condition  all our

disciples. But they are now mahatmas. It is  possible. By this Krsna

consciousness movement we can turn debauch into mahatma.  That is

possible. Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s movement is so  nice.


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   Then  what is their dealing? Yavad-arthas ca loke. They deal as much

as required only. That’s all. I have to deal with some  gentleman who

is completely out of our, this Krsna consciousness  movement, but I

have to deal with him. Then how I have to deal? As much  as possible to

avoid him, but so far the business is concerned, all  right. This is

all. Just like a businessman talks with another  businessman so far

profit is concerned. That’s all. No more talk. A  businessman, a

lawyer, talks with his client so much… Especially in  America, they

cannot waste their time. Any businessman will not waste  their time.

They will talk. Similarly, a householder devotee whose  only business

is to satisfy Krsna, they will deal with other persons…  Other person

means those who are simply interested for maintaining  this body, wife,

children, in this way. They have no other ideas. We  should not have

any very intimate relationship, but we shall have to deal  with them

only as far necessary. No more. That’s all. We shall try  to avoid them

as far as possible. But because we are living with the  human society

we have to deal with such persons. So our dealings should  be so far as

required. Not more than that. Then, if one lives a  householder life in

this way, keeping his viewpoint only in Krsna, in the  lotus feet of

Krsna, and other dealings superfluous, he is also  mahatma. He’s also

mahatma. Na priti-yukta yavad-arthas ca loke. Mayi  ise

krta-sauhrdarthah purusartha yesam.

   A  householder mahatma has only one aim: how to attain the

perfectional stage of love of God. That is the  aim.

…Society, friendship and love, these things are required.  But a mahatma

householder, he is seeking actual friendship with Krsna.  Ise

sauhrdarthah. Because he knows, “If Krsna is my  friend…” Just like

Arjuna sought friendship with Krsna; Duryodhana sought  friendship with

Krsna’s power. Krsna divided Himself. Because it  was a family warfare

between two cousin brothers, and Krsna was also related  with both of

them by family relationship, so He said, “How can I take  part with one

and not with the other? Then that will be partiality. So  anyway, I

divide Myself into two. I am alone, one side, and in  which side I

shall go, I shall not fight. I shall not touch even a  weapon. And the

other side, all My soldiers.” Krsna had many soldiers.  So Duryodhana

thought that “I shall take Krsna’s soldiers,” and Arjuna  thought, “I

shall take Krsna only, even He does not  fight.”

   So  this is the determination of mahatmas, that they want  simply

Krsna’s friendship. Mayi  sauhrdarthah.


                     ye va mayise krta-sauhrdartha

                      janesu dehambhara-vartikesu

                       grhesu jayatmaja-ratimatsu

                  na priti-yukta yavad-arthas ca loke

Yavad-arthas ca loke, just to deal with other persons as  much as

necessary, not more than that. But to keep friendship  with devotees,

that is necessary. Not that I shall not intimately mix,  intermingle

with the devotees. That is required. A devotee has got  four business:

isvare priti, love for God, Krsna; friendship with  devotees; and

kindness to the neophyte; and rejection to the  nondevotees. These four

principles. A devotee’s only lovable object is Krsna. His  only friend

is devotee, another  devotee.


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If one person can understand this Krsna  consciousness

science, in future there is hope that he can make many  other persons

to this knowledge of Krsna consciousness. Although it is  very

difficult. In Bhagavad-gita it is said, manusyanam  sahasresu. But if

you can deliver even one man in your life, then you’ll be  doing a

great service for Krsna. It is not required that  you have to deliver

hundreds and hundreds of men, so-called. No. If you  can train only one

man, that’s a great service to Krsna. You saved one man  from the

clutches of maya. It is so nice thing. So do it  peacefully, and as far

as possible. People may accept or not accept, but we  shall do our

duty. That’s all.


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eight…, at least two. That is the process. And so far  mixing with

other people, that I have already explained just now,  that to talk

with a person is not mixing. You see? Mixing means,  intimate mixing,

there are six symptoms. When you eat, when  you call him to eat, when

you give, when you take, when you talk your heart,  when you hear his

heart. These are called intimate mixing. Otherwise,  simply talking or

dealing, that is not mixing. That is not mixing. So you  can mix with

ordinary people in that way. As far as your business is  concerned, as

it is necessary, but not intimately. And do your own  business,

chanting, and following the rules and regulations. That’s  all. It is

simple thing. Just like doctors. They also mix with  infected persons,

but they do not become infected. You see. So  preaching is like that.

Unless you preach among the fallen souls, then where is  the question

of preaching? So you should not become fallen. (laughs)  You should

deliver the fallen. That should be your strength. But if  you are less

powerful, then you will become fallen.


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   So  long we are in this material platform, bodily concept of life,

then there will be distinction: “I am Indian,” “You are  American,”

“You are Englishman,” “You are this,” “…that,” so many  things, so

many designations. Therefore, if you want to rise up  to the platform

of spiritual realization, then the formula is  sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam.

Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam. That is  the beginning.

That means beginning is the brahma-bhuta platform.  Brahma-bhuta…

Same thing. It is, Narada-pancaratra,  sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam, and

brahma-bhutah prasannatma, Bhagavad-gita, the same thing.  Wherever you

find the Vedic literature, the same thing. Therefore it  is authority.

There is no contradiction. In the material platform  you write one

book, I write one book, then I disagree with you, and you  disagree

with me. That is material platform. But in the spiritual  platform,

there is self-realized platform. There is no mistake,  there is no

illusion, there is no imperfect senses and there is no  cheating. That

is spiritual platform. So the Bhagavad-gita says,  brahma-bhutah

prasannatma na socati na kanksati. …

but He is supreme and we are subordinate. That is the  difference. Eko

yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. This is our position. This  is

self-realization. When you understand this, that  “Krsna, or the

Supreme Lord, or God, whatever you say, He’s the whole  spirit soul,

and we are fragmental portion of that spirit soul, and  He’s the

maintainer; we are maintained. He is the predominator; we  are

predominated,” So this is first realization. This  is called

brahma-bhuta. And if you make more advance in  brahma-bhuta stage, then

maybe after many births you can understand what is  Krsna. That is the,

ver… Bahunam janmanam ante. Krsna says in the  Bhagavad-gita, bahunam

janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate. When one is  perfectly jnanavan,

wise, then his business is vasudevah sarvam iti sa  mahatma

sudurlabhah. Then he can understand that Vasudeva, the  son of

Vasudeva, Krsna, is everything. That realization  required. That is the

perfection of Krsna  consciousness.


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Acyutananda: So what made the soul take birth in the  first place?

Prabhupada: In the first place?

Acyutananda: What is the first birth? What is the  cause of the first


Prabhupada: Yes. That is stated in the  Prema-vivarta:


                krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare

                  nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare


As soon as… We are eternal servant of Krsna. As soon  as we want to

become master, that is the beginning of our first birth  in the

material world. We have got independence. Because,  Krsna says,

mamaivamso jiva bhutah–we are part and parcel of  Krsna–so Krsna has

got full independence, but we are minute; therefore we  have got minute

independence. Our business is to serve Krsna, but as  soon as we give

up this idea, we want to become master. That is the  beginning of our

material birth.


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give you production enough for your satisfaction. Now  I’ve seen in

your country so much land is lying vacant. Why it is not  being

produced? Because you do not know how to derive all  benefits from

earth. That you do not know. Therefore people are in  scarcity. There

is no question of scarcity. Krsna has given everything.  Purnam idam

purnam adah purnat purnam… There cannot be anything  imperfect which

is created by God. Everything is perfect. But if we  become godless,

the supply will be crippled. That is the secret we do not  know. These

things we have to learn from sastra. As soon as people  will become

demonic, nature will restrict supply. “Now you become  demonic. That’s

all right.”

   So  this is going on. Therefore it is recommended mahat-sevam  dvaram

ahur vimuktes, if you want to become free from all  anxieties. First of

all this material world means anxiety. We are put… We  are part and

parcel of Krsna. Why we are sent to this material  world? Iccha-dvesa

sammutthena, sarge yanti parantapa, because we wanted to  enjoy life

independent of God, or Krsna. This is the disease.  We are not

independent. If there is no rain and there is no food  grain, what your

independence will do? No. Therefore Krsna says in the  Bhagavad-gita,

annad bhavanti bhutani, very practical. That if you want  to be happy,

either animal or man, bhutani, then you produce anna,  food grains

sumptuously. Annad bhavanti bhutani parjanyad  anna-sambhavah. And

there must be sufficient rain for producing sufficient  food grains.

Yajnad bhavanti parjanyah, and you perform yajna, there  will be

regular rainfall. Yajnah-karma samudbhavam. Who is  following this

principle? Yajnah-karma samudbhavam. Krsna never says  that factories,

by factories bhavanti bhutani. Annad bhavanti bhutani, He  says this is

practical. We are not interested how to produce anna. We  are now

interested how to produce tire tubes. So eat tire  tube.

   So  this is going on. Take Krsna’s instruction as it is. You’ll  be

happy. This is Krsna consciousness movement. It is not a  bogus thing,

it is very scientific, authorized. Take it very  seriously, especially

those who are born Indians. They’ve got the advantage.  Don’t be

misled. Thank you very much. So any  questions?


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   So  this baivik-yajna (?) is permitted in the…, prohibited in  this

Kali-yuga because they are not properly performed. It is  not possible.

Just like our Sriman Pittieji was searching after a  brahmana to recite

the Ramayana, Sundarakanda. He’s not getting a proper  brahmana. That

is the difficulty. How you can perform yajna? There is  no yajnic

brahmana at the present moment. Therefore the  yajna to be performed at

this moment in this Kali-yuga is yajnaih  sankirtana-prayaih yajanti hi

su-medhasah. Su-medhasah means with good brain substance.  Those who

have no brain substance, they are called alpa-medhasah.  That is also

stated in the Bhagavad-gita, tad bhavati alpa-medhasah.  Alpa-medhasah

means there is no brain substance–filled up with cow  dung. So one

should be su-medhasah. Su-medhasah, nice brain substance.  So those who

are su-medhasah means with good brain substance, they  perform yajnair

sankirtanair by sankirtana yajna, Hare Krsna. Just see  the effect of

Hare Krsna mantra. This yajna being performed all over  the world. How

quickly they are capturing Krsna consciousness. Just see  the effect

practically. Therefore those who are intelligent, having  good brain

substance, they should perform yajna sankirtana,  yajnaih…, and

worship Lord Caitanya.


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This is the… The six Gosvamis of Vrndavana, they lived  in Vrndavana

by the order… The present Vrndavana, holy place, was  made by Rupa

Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami. These two brothers, they  were ministers

in the government of Nawab Hussain Shah. Practically they  became

Muhammadans; their name were changed. Because in those  days the

brahmana community was very strict. Any brahmana  accepting service,

he’ll be immediately excommunicated: “No, you are not  brahmana.”

Brahmana’s business is not to serve others. Brahma-karma  svabhava-jam.

They should remain… Everyone was independent. Brahmana  independent,

ksatriya independent, vaisya independent. Simply sudra’s  dependent


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brahmacari. There are many saintly persons, they are  akhanda

brahmacari, or avala (?) brahmacari. They avoid. It is  not only for

men; it is meant for woman also, because here we are  dressed like men

and women. Otherwise the mentality is manly, to enjoy,  purusa. Purusa

means who wants to enjoy, and yosit means enjoy. So our  relationship

in this material world, that either in the dress of woman  or man, the

mentality is purusa, how to enjoy. The mentality  is purusa.

   So  when we give up this mentality, enjoyer… Because we are not

actually enjoyer. Enjoyer is Krsna.


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Acyutananda: (reading question) In the Vedas the  maha-mantra is

repeated Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Hare  Krsna, Hare

Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. What is the  significance of changing

the order?

Prabhupada: There is no change of order. If you like you  can begin

with Hare Rama. There is no  harm.


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Prabhupada: Siva is dahi and Krsna is milk. Dahi, the  preparation of

dahi that you take milk, pure milk, and mix it with  little sour thing,

then it becomes dahi. Similarly, Krsna is pure spirit,  and when this

pure spirit is mixed up with maya, that is Siva.  Lord Siva is the

maya-adipati. There are many narrations. This was once  inquired by

Yudhisthira Maharaja that Lord Siva, he appears to be  like a beggar.

He does not possess even a house. He lives underneath a  tree. And the

devotee of Siva becomes very rich, opulent materially,  although he’s a

beggar, whereas Visnu is laksmi-pati, vaikuntha-pati, and  the

Vaisnavas become beggar. Just opposite. By worshiping  the beggar one

becomes rich, and by worshiping the rich one becomes  beggar. What is

this contradiction? So this is answered by Krsna,  yasyaham anugrhnami

harisye tad-dhanam sanaih, “My first benediction to my  devotee is that

I take away all his riches. That’s all. Then when he  becomes helpless,

he becomes firmly convinced and he has no other  shelter.” Then

automatically he takes shelter of Krsna, what Krsna  demands,

sarva-dharman parityajya mam. When he has no other  help, he fully

surrenders to Krsna. That is Krsna’s special  mercy. And so far Lord

Siva is concerned, he is the husband of mother Durga, and  Durga is the

supreme material power, srsti-sthiti-pralaya  sadhana-saktir eka

chayeva yasya bhuvanani vibharti durga. So he gets all  material

benediction, and Vaisnava, instead of material  benediction, he gets

all spiritual benediction. That is the  difference.


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   So  this material energy is… Every energy is woman. The  spiritual

energy is also woman, material energy is woman. The material energy is

tamo, darkness, and the other energy is the light.  Therefore Vedic

injunction is tamasi ma jyotir gamah. Don’t remain under  the darkness

material energy. In the Candi, those who have read  Candi, ya devi

sarva-bhutanam nidra-rupena samasthitah. The material  energy’s

business is to keep us in slumber without any pure  knowledge. This is

material energy. So if we keep ourself within the  material energy,

that will lead us more and more in the darkest region of  hellish

condition of life. Tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam.  Those who are too

much materially affected, to associate with such person  means you

remain within the material energy. And if you associate  with persons

who are great souls, who have taken the shelter of  spiritual energy,

your path of liberation will be open. This is the  purport. Mahat-sevam

dvaram ahur vimuktes tamo-dvaram yositam sangi-sangam  mahantas te



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thinking, “I am this Indian,” “I am American,” “I am  this,” “I am

that.” But what mahatma thinking? He’s thinking, “I am  servant of

Krsna. I am not servant of these petty things. I am  servant of Krsna,

Parabrahman.” Gopi-bhartur pada-kamalayor  dasa-dasanudasa. That is

mahat. “I am a servant of Krsna’s servant, servant,  servants, hundred

times servant.” The lower my position is servant, then  I am great

mahatma. Ordinarly they think mahatma, that “I am on the  top, on the

topmost platform.” That is not mahatma