Why the iskcon gurus– are bogus

September 24, 2012 in Articles, Yasoda nandana Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

 

 

Hare  Krsna to all-
Srila  Prabhupada quotes below compiled by Yasoda nandan das
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Srila  Prabhupada explained that His Guru Maharaja never appointed anybody as  acarya.
“…They wanted to create  artificially somebody acarya“,
Note:  The ISKCON GBC artificially created 11  acaryas in March of 1978.
Note:  If  Srila Prabhupada wanted to appoint 11 acaryas [diksa-gurus] for ISKCON, why did  he not directly say?
,,,”He  said so many things, and this point He missed? The  real point? “
Note: Similarly Srila Prabhupada said so  many things in the last few months of 1977, and the real point He  missed?
…”and they insist upon it. They  declared some unfit person to become”…(SPC (BBT 1991) 15.08.76)
Note:  And the GBC misheard, misunderstood, and  misrepresented to the body of ISKCON devotees that 11 had been  “appointed” as acaryas.  And tbey insisted upon it.  And they declared some unfit persons to  become acaryas.
Note:  If His Divine Grace Srila  Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada did not appoint anyone as acarya  [or diksa guru] for His mission, what makes the leading secretaries of His  Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada think that He would appoint one  acarya or a group of acaryas for His Mission, in direct contradiction of His  criticism of this whole concept in August of 1976.
Srila Prabhupada  conversation, August 16, 1976, Bombay, India
Srila  Prabhupada explains that there is no record that HDGBSTP nominated “any acarya” after him
“… I have also read specifically your  articles on the matter of acaryas, wherein on the 14th paragraph I see the  acarya shall be entitled to nominate in in writing his successive  acarya.But we do not find any record where our  Srila Prabhupada nominated any acarya after Him. Different persons have interpreted on  this point, and everyone of our Godbrothers are acting as acarya, so this is a  controversial point which I do not wish to enter into while we are proposing for  co-operation…”
Srila Prabhupada letter 1969 (SPL (VI  1987) 69.8.38)
Note:  Where is the actual verifiable record  that Srila Prabhupada [HDG ACBSP]  “nominated any acarya after Him” ?
Srila  Prabhupada defines obedience. Srila Prabhupada – “I may say many things to you, but  when I say something directly to you, you do it. Your first duty is to do  that,you cannot argue -‘Sir, you said to me  do like this before’, no that is not your duty, what I say to you now you do it,  that is obedience you cannot argue.” (SP S.B. Lecture, 14/4/75,  Hyderabad)
Guru  cannot be self-made Guru must be  authorized “Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is  no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so  many rascals, they are becoming guruwithout any authority. That is not guru.You must be authorised. Evam parampara-praptam imam ra… As  soon as the parampara is….kalena yogo nasta parantapa, immediately finished.  The spiritual potency finished.You can dress like a guru, you can talk  big, big words, but it will never be effective.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Lecture, February  27th 1977, Mayapur, India)
Guru  must be authorized by the bona fide Guru.Self-made guru cannot be guru. He  must be authorized by the bona fide guru. Then he’s guru. This is the  fact…Similarly, bona fide guru meanshe must be authorized by the superior  guru.” (SP NOD Lecture,  October 31. 1972)
Guru  must be authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. “One should take initiation from a bona  fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who isauthorised by his predecessor spiritual  master. This is called diksa-vidhana.” (S.B. 4.8.54, purport)
Guru  must be ordered by his guru. Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don’t go  very speedily.A guru can become guru when he’s ordered  by his guru. That’s  all. Otherwise nobody
Result of Gaudiya Matha’s attempt to become more than  guru. “Why this Gaudiya Matha  failed?Because they tried to become more than  guru.  [.]They declared some  unfit person to become acarya. Then another man came, then another, acarya,  another acarya.” (Srila  Prabhupada Room Conversation, 16/8/76)
Position of the actual  guru. “An actual guru always remains the  servant of his own guru and the predecessor acaryas.Attempting to become a guru without  one’s own guru’s order is a materialistic ambition. Accepting followers and  circumventing one’s own guru is offensive.” >>> Ref. VedaBase => MGM  22-11: A Lost Son Visits Home
Srila Prabhupada explains how he  became the leader of the KC movement. Guru must be ordered by His  guru. “Indian man: When did you become  spiritual the leader of Krsna Consciousness? Srila Prabhupada: What is that? Brahmananda: He is asking when did you  become the spiritual leader of Krsna Consciousness? Srila Prabhupada:When my Guru Maharaja ordered me. This  is the guru parampara. Indian man: Did it… Srila Prabhupada: Try to understand.  Don’t go very speedily. A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his  guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.  ”     (SP Bg. Lecture, 28/10/75
Guru must be  authorized Guru cannot be  self-made. Position of gurus without  authority. “Guru cannot  be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic  literature.And nowadays, so many rascals, they are  becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be  authorised. Evam  parampara-praptam imam ra… As soon as the parampara is…kalena yogo nasta  parantapa, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress  like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective.”  (Lecture, February 27th 1977, Mayapur, India)
Guru must be authorized by the  bona fide guru. “Self-made guru cannot be  guru.He must be authorized by the bona fide  guru. Then he’s guru.  This is the fact…Similarly, bona fide guru means he must be authorized by the  superior guru.” (SP NOD Lecture, October 31. 1972)
Guru must be authorized  person. “Thereforeguru must be authorized  person, not that  bhumi-phala-guru. No. I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru unless you are  agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna. That is  guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary person. He is the representative,  bona fide representative of Krsna.” (SB Lecture,November 30, 1976)
Guru cannot impart instructions  without being authorized “The  schoolmasters in the modern days are paid agents for giving some information,  but the spiritual master is not a paid agent.Nor can he impart instruction without  being authorized.”  (SB:2.9.43, purport)
“A Guru can be Guruwhen he is ordered by his  Guru. That’s all.  Otherwise nobody can become Guru.” (SP Bg. Lecture, 28th October 1975)
Srila Prabhupada predicts what  happens when the acarya disappears? Unfortunately, when the acarya  disappears, rogues and nondevotees take advantage and immediately begin to  introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svamis, yogis,  philanthropists, welfare workers and so on.   SB 4.28.48
Do not make addition,  alteration. Results of making additions and  alterations. Many times they give me very great  credit that I have done wonderful. Yes, I have done wonderful. But what is the  reason? Because I am not a rascal. I speak what Krsna has spoken. That’s all.  Very easy. Everyone can do that. Not only I. Any of you, you can do this. Simply  speak what is…, what Krsna has said. That’s all.Don’t make  addition, alteration.Then you become  rascal. Immediately you become rascal. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture 1.5.29  Vrndavana, August 10, 1974) Danger of concocting Prabhupada: Ara na koriha mane  asa.Don’t  concoct. Don’t you sing daily? Ara na koriha mane asa. Don’t manufacture  ideas. That  is dangerous.  Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches by His example. Guru more murkha dekhi’ karila  sasana. Caitanya Mahaprabhu said to Prakasananda Sarasvati that “My spiritual master saw Me fool number  one, so he haschastised Me, that ‘Don’t try to read Vedanta; chant Hare  Krsna 760623gc.nv Conversations  428848/530501 Go to right person who has  seen. Do not make your own  interpretration Prabhupada:Therefore Krsna says, tad viddhi  pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: “One who knows, go and understand from them,  from the guru.” Don’t make your interpretation, rascal. You shall remain  always arascal. Then  what is the use of all these verses? If it is so easy to understand Krsna  then why Krsna says, tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya: “Then you  will understand. Go to the right person who has seen.” .  751210mw.vrn Conversations  405334/530501