June 23 1976 New Vrndavana conversations
Prabhupāda: First of all, anartha–nivṛtti. You are accustomed to so many bad habits. First of all try to rectify it, then talk of svarūpa. Where is your svarūpa? Simply wasting time. A man is diseased, he’s thinking, “When I shall be cured I shall eat, go to this hotel, I shall eat like this.” First of all cure, then talk of eating this and that. Svarūpa, when you are cured, that is svarūpa. So long you are not cured, what is the use of talking svarūpa? First business is cure yourself. Anartha–nivṛtti, that is anartha–nivṛtti. Then svarūpa will come. That is the bābājīs. In Vṛndāvana, you have seen? Siddha-praṇālī.
Prabhupāda: They are smoking and having illicit sex with one dozen women-svarūpa. Rascal. This is called sahajiyā, a rascal. Condemned. Where is your svarūpa? Don’t talk unnecessarily. First of all come to svarūpa, then talk of svarūpa.
Devotee: So our motivation should be to get free from birth, disease, old age and death.
Prabhupāda: That is already explained. But you must be determined how to execute devotional service. Without determined devotional service, how we can attain that position? So what is the use of talking utopian? First business is anartha–nivṛttiḥ syāt. Ādau śraddhā tathaḥ sādhu-saṅgo ‘tha bhajana–kriyā tato anartha–nivṛttiḥ syāt. You adopt this means that you have got full faith that “Kṛṣṇa consciousness will save me.” Then you live with devotees who are similarly determined. Then you execute devotional service. Then anartha–nivṛttiḥ syāt, you‘ll be free from all these…. These are the stages. There is…. Up to anartha–nivṛtti, you have to struggle very hard with determination, and then automatically everything will come. Tato niṣṭhā tato rucis tataḥ, athāsaktis tato bhāvaḥ. So before svarūpa, anartha–nivṛtti, don’t expect all these
Some Conclusions-We can see over time who wants Krsna Prema but does not want to do any actual “work” There are so many as Prabhupada mentions here about the Radha Kunda bogus babajis as well as among his disciples.
Work now…….. samadhi later or, as Sriman Jayananda once said when asked how does one make spiritual advancement?
He said I dont know I am too busy working for Srila Prabhupada!!! The process is real and bona fide because it is given by our acaryas, we just have to stick with it being patient and continue to beg for Krsnas mercy as an ongoing activity.
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das
