Without seeing (Krsna) he cannot be spiritual master-SP

December 29, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Below we have the definitive statements by Srila Prabhupada as to WHO if the real guru.

Some will accept and understand this and many will never get it

The bona fide spiritual master must be able to see Krsna and talk with Him-face to face. This is not some figurative idea but the actual reality.
Srila Prabhupada….”Yes. A spiritual master must have seen Kṛṣṇa.Without seeing, he cannot be spiritual master.But how Kṛṣṇa can be seen? Kṛṣṇa can be seen by love. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena [Bs. 5.38]. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti. Just like if you are in love with somebody, you can see him constantly—he is always on your eyes, anyone you love—so similarly, Kṛṣṇa also can be seen by development of love. Otherwise how we can see Kṛṣṇa? He is so great, unlimited. Your eyes, your senses, are all limited. You cannot see the unlimited by your limited sense perception. But you can see… Not you can see, but svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ.When you are developed in the sense of love of Godhead, then He reveals unto you. Therefore you can see. “
Srila prabhupada’s Lecture : Bhagavad-gita 4.34-39 — Los Angeles, January 12, 1969
 
Srila Prabhupada…”So this adhokṣajam, Kṛṣṇa, we have to worship. Adhokṣaja. So we cannot see if it is beyond our sense perception. How we can worship Him?Therefore you have to take shelter of the spiritual master who has seen Him.“Srila Prabhupada’s Lecture : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.25 — Los Angeles, August 28, 1972
 
Srila Prabhupada…”When the devotee sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead by his meditation, orwhen he sees the Lord personally, face to face, he becomes aware of everything within this universe.Indeed, nothing is unknown to him.Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a devotee who has seen the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”
The Demigods and Demons Declare a Truce : SB 8.6.9 : Srila Prabhupada’s PURPORT :
 
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July 14 1976 interview with reporter-guru must see God face to face-not figuratively
Interviewer: But in the same way that Kṛṣṇa says He’ll provide for your needs you still must work to achieve whatever Kṛṣṇa is giving you.
Prabhupāda: Yes. You work for Kṛṣṇa. You have to work to get your necessities.
Interviewer: In the same way I’m curious with respect to the way Kṛṣṇa communicates with you, whether it’s in a similar kind of way that He gives you your necessities.
Bali-mardana: In other words, when you decide that someone is to be in charge of a particular temple does Kṛṣṇa tell you that this person should be in charge.
Interviewer: Or do you by judging him say this person is qualified.
Prabhupāda:Yes, because a devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and He gives order.
Interviewer:It’s a more direct communication.
Prabhupāda:Yes. And He gives order.
Rāmeśvara:Because intelligence, our philosophy is that intelligence comes from Kṛṣṇa. So if I have some…
Interviewer: And your philosophy is that your daily necessities come from Kṛṣṇa as well.
Rāmeśvara:Yes, try to understand. Suppose my intelligence sees that this person is qualified, that means Kṛṣṇa has told me.
Prabhupāda:No, not necessarily, Kṛṣṇa will tell directly. A devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa tells him, “Do like this.” Not figuratively.

Interviewer:Does that apply then to other kinds of decisions and other kinds of activities as well?
Prabhupāda:Everything. Because a devotee does not do anything without consulting Kṛṣṇa.
Bali-mardana: But that applies to a very greatly elevated soul, that is not an ordinary person.
Prabhupāda:That is,therefore the minor devotees, they consultthe spiritual master. That is our process. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **.
Rāmeśvara:I see, I was trying to explain the minor devotees.
Interviewer: No, I was talking about…
Rāmeśvara: You’re talking about the topmost level.
Interviewer: Yes.
 
Some Conclusions-We can understand the position of Ramesvara das in this telling interview where he is “thinking” from his own relative material  platform as to how guru communicates with God-Krsna. But Srila Prabhupada sets him straight. 
Whether he ever understood this is debatable. And whether the people in iskcon today still do not understand the lofty position of an actually liberated soul. Otherwise how can they  still today so many years later “think” they are actually qualified to be spiritual masters like Srila Prabhupada? They are all simply cheaters and nothing more. Judge by the results and what they have done to destroy the original iskcon that Srila Prabhupada worked so hard to create. Sinful people, all of them. And according to Lord Caitanya, one should not even see their faces, or else he/she has to jump in the Ganges-with all clothes on!!!
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das