Stay away from my Gaudiya matha Godbrothers–SP

January 7, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

June 30 1975 conversations about Bon Maharaj-The Gaudiya matha leaders were all envious of SP

Brahmānanda: In Māyāpur there is one astrologer and he…
Prabhupāda: Who is that astro…?

Brahmānanda: I don’t know his name. He lives in…, across, on the other side there, where the bank is.

Prabhupāda: Oh, Bamanpukur.

Brahmānanda: No, on the other side of the…Prabhupāda: Navadvipa?Brahmānanda: No, on the…, where the railway is.

Prabhupāda: Oh, Svarūp Gañj.

Brahmānanda: Yes, Svarūp Gañj. So he likes our movement very much, and he said that, he told one of our devotees that you were the most powerful personality in the world. And he has given very accurate astrology readings to some of our devotees.

Prabhupāda: And he was, what he has told about me?

Brahmānanda: That you are the most powerful personality in the world.

Prabhupāda: If I am representative of Kṛṣṇa, then I must be the most powerful. Kṛṣṇa has got…, all omnipotent. (laughs) Most powerful, the most my Godbrothers. That is my credit. They are thinking like that, “This man became most powerful than all of us. (Still laughing) He was a gṛhastha.” They used to say all the gṛhasthas, paca-gṛhastha. Paca means decomposed. What Bon Mahārāja is doing now?

Satsvarūpa: I don’t know up to date. I just know a few weeks ago he was in Canada.

Brahmānanda: When our devotees go to see a professor after Bon Mahārāja has spoken with him, the professors don’t want to take our books. They make complaints that our books are too sectarian, they’re not scholarly, they’re not…, in this way.

Prabhupāda: He is making that poison.

Brahmānanda: Yeah, he is giving some propaganda.

Satsvarūpa: The idea that he is more scholarly and more academic.

Prabhupāda: These rascals will not, “Where is your book?”

Satsvarūpa: He’s just got that one book, and he doesn’t have that anymore.

Prabhupāda: He has sold all?

Satsvarūpa: I think so. I never see it anywhere in any libraries.

Brahmānanda: He wanted to send some to America. [break]

Prabhupāda: …by his propaganda, they are talking like that?Brahmānanda: Well, one thing, there was one debate, and he was there, and our men were there too. And he was representing Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Prabhupāda: Who?

Brahmānanda: Swami Bon.

Prabhupāda: How?

Satsvarūpa: It was an interreligion meeting, and there were representatives from different Christian…, and he was there for Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavism or Kṛṣṇa consciousness. But he didn’t give any strong argument; he just presented it as if it were another way.

Prabhupāda: What is that way?

Satsvarūpa: Well, he said, he described it very… About Rādhā… That Lord Caitanya is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combined.

Prabhupāda: That we say also.

Satsvarūpa: Yes, but the boys who were there, they said it wasn’t at all the way you speak. He wasn’t saying that ours was the best.

prabhupāda: No, ours is the best, neither he is best nor it is as it is.

Satsvarūpa: One of our men spoke up and said that, the president of Toronto temple, Uttamaśloka, he said, “So far we’ve just discussed different religions from a relative point of view. Why don’t we discuss what is the Absolute Truth?” And they all became… They didn’t like that. They said, “We feel defensive when you speak like this.

Brahmānanda: And Swami Bon said that “You don’t know so much.”

Satsvarūpa: Yeah, he criticized our Uttamaśloka. And then he said, “Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas, they don’t engage in argumentation and debate.” So Uttamaśloka said, “Yes, Lord Caitanya argued with Prakāśānanda.

Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, very good.

Satsvarūpa: But Swami Bon said, “No, He didn’t convert him by argument, He converted him by the effulgence.

“Prabhupāda: (To Bon:) “But there was argument, rascal.” (laughter)

Satsvarūpa: And as a result of that…

Prabhupāda: He is a rascal, rascal.

Satsvarūpa: He told one professor that our devotees in general, they’re not tolerant when someone speaks something.

Prabhupāda: (To Bon:) “You are also not tolerant. Why you have come here? Because you are envious. You are the most intolerant. You are blaspheming.”

Satsvarūpa: Yes. He also said that on the altar in Toronto… It’s an altar just like in all our temples. He said, “Lord Caitanya should not be there with Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.” They have them separated like…

Prabhupāda: Why? My Guru Mahārāja have so many Māyāpur temples, Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Brahmānanda: All the Gauḍīya temples, they all have…

Bhāvānanda: Yogapīṭha has.

Prabhupāda: Everywhere.

Brahmānanda: Bombay. [break]

 

Prabhupāda: ...men should be very strong to protest. They must know he has come purposely, purposefully. Of course, he will not be able to do anything. Simply ask him, “You, sir, what you have done for the last forty years? And who asked you to start this institute? And why you were called back by Guru Mahārāja?” You ask these things. “And you performed some ceremony for neutralizing your guru-aparādha.” He did it. Some astrologer… He admitted that “I have offended my Guru Mahārāja. So I am not improving. So can you suggest anything?” He said that “You offer 108 bilva patra to Lord Śiva.” And he did it for so many…

Brahmānanda: Prāyaścitta, is that called?

Prabhupāda: Prāyaścitta, yes.

Brahmānanda: You mention that in your Nectar of Devotion, that if some offense is committed, it’s not necessary to perform any rituals but to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, and that one will become purified in that way.—————————

Letter to: All Temple Presidents, G.B.C. and Sannyasis


17 October, 1975 75-10-1759 Muller Street,Yeoville, Johannesburg,South Africa

Dear Prabhus,Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to His Divine Grace, Srila Prabhupad. It has come to our notice that one Godbrother of Srila Prabhupad’s, Swami Bon Maharaj, has been spreading damaging propaganda against Srila Prabhupad and against our movement. Satsvarupa Maharaj recently informed Srila Prabhupad that one Professor in Canada refused to take a standing order of Srila Prabhupad’s books because he associated with Swami Bon at his Oriental Institute in Vrindaban, and Swami Bon so much made untrue accusations against our beloved Spiritual Master Srila Prabhupad. Swami Bon recently made a tour of Canada and Satsvarup Maharaj reported that his statements were “poisonous, saying many false things about Krsna consciousness.” Recently, one professor, Dr. Hines, of Indian Religious Studies at Yale marked: “I think Swami Bon is just jealous of Srila Prabhupad.”Under the circumstances, we shall fully non-cooperate with this Swami Bon and neither we shall form any kind of association with any person whose aim it is to blaspheme the Lord or his pure devotee.I hope that this meets you all in blissful serving mood,Your unworthy servant, Pusta Krsna SwamiActing Secretary for Srila Prabhupada

Approved:ACBS (initialed by hand)————————————————-

April 30 1977 conversations
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he doesn’t. He never thought about it. No one reads the Bhāgavatam as a scientific book, Śrīla Prabhupāda. That’s the point. Except for Your Divine Grace, they are thinking it’s story, “It is stories.”

Prabhupāda: Yes, they do not believe.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. And therefore no one takes it seriously. Modern people don’t take it seriously.

Prabhupāda: There was a Gosāi. He was reading Caitanya-caritāmṛta. So the description of the planetary system there is. He used to say to his audience, “Actually these things are not there. These are imaginary descriptions.” He was such a fool. So the whole world has taken like that, “symbolic, imagination.”

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And he was lecturing on Caitanya-caritāmṛta. I think you mentioned that one of your Godbrothers once said to you, “You really believe that there is such a place, Kṛṣṇaloka, Vaikuṇṭhaloka?” He was himself…

Prabhupāda: Bon Mahārāja did not believe. No… Nobody ever thought of it.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You are the only representative, the lone representative of religion left on this planet, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: So what to do? He has wasted so much money. He’s not the proper man.


Some Conclusions-Srila Prabhupada warned his disciples in so many ways NOT to go to the Gaudiya matha-dont buy their books, neither sell them ours. To stay away from them because if they say one word different, it will cause havoc in his mission of Krsna Consciousness.
And what did these foolish leaders of iskcon do? Immediately they went to see Sridhara Maharaj (the godbrother SP liked but also said was the architect for the gaudiya matha breakup) as well as others and they (these GM leaders) told them all sorts of things not approved by their own spiritual master- Srila Prabhupada.And now their poison has spread all throughout iskcon. This is the price paid for disobedience.

Hare Krsna

damaghosa das

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