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aksara-dvayam. If anyone simply chants these two alphabets, ha,

ri–hari–then baddha-parikaras tena moksaya gamanam pratiti:

“Although he is a conditioned soul, his path for liberation is open.”

Yasya smrtya ca namoktva tapa-yajna-kriyadisu, nunam tam purnakam yati

sadyah vande acyutam ity adi-vacanam.(?) There is another quotation,

that yasya smrtya ca moktva tapo-yajna-kriyadisu. These are pious

activities: austerity and sacrifice, tapas, yajna, and kriya, pious

activities. Everything is done simply by chanting this Hare Krsna

mantra. There is no need of doing anything. Simply by chanting, one

can achieve the result of japa, yajna, and other ritualistic

performances prescribed in the Vedas. And this is specially advised to

the karma-kandiyas, those who are very much fond of performing

ritualistic ceremony. For them this instruction is specially meant,

that if you chant simply Hare Krsna mantra without any offense, then

you’ll get all the results of japa, yajna, and other ritualistic

performances.

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So anyway, this Ajamila is krta-nirvesa. The Visnuduta informed to

the Yamaduta that “You cannot touch him anymore. He is now pure.”

Krta-nirvesa. Krta-nirvesa. Then the next question is… The Yamaduta

may say that “How he has become krta-nirvesa? He is so sinful that

there is no limit of his sinful activities, and you say that it is

clear immediately?” And therefore he says, janma-koty-amhaam api: “Not

only one life’s sinful activity, but many, many crores of births’

sinful activities.” So we do not know how many births we had

previously, but from the sastra we understand crores, many millions of

times, we had to take birth. Therefore it is used, janma koti: not one

birth or two birth or second birth or fifth birth. So unless we come

to Krsna consiousness, this repetition of birth and death will

continue. Therefore it is said janma koti… We are passing through

many forms of different forms of life. We are creating one family,

that “I belong to this family.” But what about my other families?

Because janma koti, in every family, when I enter, there must be

father and mother and family members. So which family I am especially

concerned? That is our ignorance. We become interested in the

particular family where we are at present. But we do not know that in

the past we had to pass through many hundreds and millions of

families. So which family is correct? And again, if I do not correct

myself at the present moment, I have to go through many millions of

families until we come to the point: vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma

sudurlabhah. This is the point.

….caranambujam hareh. It is said that if by sentiment one takes to Krsna

consciousness, tyaktva sva-dharmam Everyone has got his occupational

duty. The brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, or anyone–everyone has

got some particular duty, obligation. But Krsna says, “There is no

need of executing all this obligation. Simply surrender to Me.” Krsna

says. So if somebody, out of sentiment, if one thinks that “Simply by

surrendering to Krsna, I will be perfect? Why not take it? Let me give

up my so-called religious principle.” So that is confirmed in the

Bhagavata. Tyaktva sva-dharmam caranambujam hareh. He is giving up.

Just like these European, American boys, they belong to Jewish

religion, they belong to Christian religion, but out of their pious

activity or even by sentiment, they have given up. Now they have taken

to Krsna consciousness. But they are perfect. You may say that some of

them are fallen. So sastra says that “Even one has fallen, where is

the wrong there? And another person, who has not taken to Krsna

consciousness, who has not fallen, what is the benefit there?” Even

one has not fallen, sticking to his own particular religious system,

he is not gainer. But a person who has taken to Krsna consciousness

even by sentiment and has fallen, he has great benefit because once he

has taken to Krsna consciousness, Krsna becomes attached to him. That

is ajnata-sukrti. Therefore, in all circumstances, we should accept

the Krsna’s instruction, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam

vraja, and surely we shall be benefited.

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Hamsaduta: Sixteen heads arrived at the Kumbha-mela, January 5, 1971.

Srila Prabhupada arrived on the morning of January 13, 1971, and the

following lectures were recorded beginning January 15, 1971, at the

Kumbha-mela, crossing of Kali and Yamuna roads, just across from the

Hanuman Mandira, a temple which is said to be at least one million

years old. Prabhupada said it was standing since the time of Lord

Ramacandra. (break)

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   So the Visnudutas say that “Even though one has committed so many

sinful activities, if at the…, if once he utters the holy name of

Narayana, he becomes free immediately.” That’s a fact. It is not

exaggeration. A sinful man, someway or other, if he chants this Hare

Krsna mantra, he immediately becomes free from all reaction. But the

difficulty is that he commits again. That is namaparadha, offense.

There are ten kinds of offenses. This is the severest offense, that

after being freed from all sinful reaction by chanting Hare Krsna

mantra, if he again commits the same sin, that is a grievous criminal

action. For ordinary man it may not be so severe, but one who is

chanting Hare Krsna mantra, if he takes advantage of this mantra, that

“Because I am chanting Hare Krsna mantra, even though I commit some

sin, I’ll be free,” he’ll be free, but because he is offender he will

not achieve the ultimate goal of chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Because

he’ll be freed, and again he’ll commit–freed, again he’ll commit–in

this way there will be no chance of his liberation. But don’t think

that by chanting Hare Krsna mantra one’s sinful reactions are

counteracted. That is not exaggeration. That’s a fact. The difficulty

is that one chants Hare Krsna mantra, again commits sin, that is

greatest sin. That is the greatest offense.

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.. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh. You should

always remember this, because sometimes rascals mislead that “Any

name.” In Bengal it is very popular. There is a party, they chant

kali-kirtana. “Kali, Kali, Kali,” imitation. Or there are so many

so-called avataras. There was another rascal, he added his wife’s

name. Yes. And the rascal, foolish scholars also accepted. Yes. “Haro

kusuma, haro kusuma, kusuma kusuma, haro,” like that. The rascal’s

name was Haro, and his wife’s name was Kusuma, so he made a mantra,

“haro kusuma, haro kusuma, kusuma kusuma, haro haro.” (laughter) And

the rascal followers also accepted that this is… So this is going

1. A Mayavadi philosophers, they are so dangerous that they mislead

their followers to the hell. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has therefore

strongly warned, mayavadi-bhasya sunile haya sarva-nasa: “If you

attempt to hear some Mayavadi philosopher, then your life will be

spoiled. Your path to devotional service will be blocked, so don’t try

to hear a Mayavadi.” This is the recommendation by Caitanya

Mahaprabhu. So we should always remember, when there is question of

chanting the holy name, that means Visnu, not any other’s name.

Vyaharanam visnor yatas tad-visaya matih.

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possibility of becoming a pure Vaisnava. He may be a Vaisnava,

performing the devotional service in the routine work, but if his

behavior is not sinless he is called kadacara, suduracara. Of course,

this suduracara, if it happens accidentally without any

consciousness… Sometimes we commit some sinful activity without

knowledge or due to my past behavior. That accident, if one repents

that “I should not have done this, but I am so sinful that I have

again committed this sin,” so this repentance will help him to be

excused by the Supreme Lord. But if one commits sinful life

intentionally, that is not to be excused. That is to be taken

seriously.

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So the first stage of chanting Hare Krsna mantra is full of

offenses. But if one sticks to the principle… Therefore we have to

chant regularly sixteen rounds at least. So even there are offenses,

by simply chanting and being repentant that “I have committed this

offense unnecessarily or without knowledge,” so simply be repentant

and go on chanting. Then the stage will come. It is called namabhasa.

That is offenseless, when there is no more offenses. That is called

namabhasa. At namabhasa stage one becomes liberated immediately. And

when one is liberated, if he goes on chanting–naturally he will go on

chanting–then his love of Krsna becomes manifest. These are the three

stages of chanting: chanting with offense, chanting as a liberated

person and chanting in love of God. There are three stage of chanting.

The same thing, the example is just like a mango, unripe mango, going

on, changes. It is not that chanting brings another thing as a result.

No. The same thing becomes manifest in different feature. Just like

unripe mango, you taste in a different way; it is very sour. But when

it is ripened and it is fully ripened, the taste is changed. The taste

is now sweet.

   So in the beginning we may be very much reluctant in the matter of

chanting, but when you become liberated the chanting will be so sweet

that you cannot give up. Just like Rupa Gosvami. He has composed a

sloka. He says in that sloka that “If I had millions of tongues and

trillions of ears, then the chanting of Hare Krsna mantra would have

been relishable. How, what can I do with one tongue and two ears?” So

that is liberated stage. That is prema. But that stage is attainable.

If you follow regularly the principles, everyone will attain to that

stage when he simply likes to chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna

Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna.

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Na niskrtair uditair brahma-vadibhih. There are twenty kinds of

religious scripture, out of which, Manu is considered to be the

greatest. So they have prescribed many methods for getting oneself

released from the reaction of sinful activities. Every one of us,

anyone who is engaged in karma… Karma means papa, sinful activities.

And karma means one who is working for his own benefit. He is karmi.

The whole world is working so hard not for others’ benefit but his

personal benefit. That is called karma. Try to understand what is

karma. Karma means anyone who is working very hard day and night for

his own benefit. That is called karma. And whenever you perform karma

for your personal interest there must be some sinful activity.

Therefore every karmi is a sinful man. It is clear understanding. No

karmi can be without being sinful. Every karmi is. Therefore how to

work?

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religious scriptures in human society. Therefore it is said, dharmena

hinah pasubhih samanah. If one is not following the principles of

religious scriptures… It doesn’t matter whether it is Hindu religion

or Christian religion or Muslim religion. It doesn’t matter. But human

civilization, a civilized human being must follow some religious

principles. That is the aim of human life. And anyone who does not

follow any religious scripture, he is simply animal. That is the

position of the present world. We may claim to be Hindu or Muslim or

Christian, but nobody cares for religion. They are simply karmis.

Therefore they are all sinful.

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thing will be remembered and that will make him liberated. Offenseless

chanting means liberated. We should therefore (be) very much careful

not to commit offenses. Then we remain always… So long you chant

Hare Krsna mantra, you remain liberated. And actually ayi mukta-kalir

upasyamana. Srila Rupa Gosvami has said that the chanting is possible

only by the liberated soul. Ayi mukta-kalir upasyamana. When he is

addressing the holy name he says mukta-kalir upasya: “Those who are

liberated, they can chant offenseless or pure holy name of the Lord.”

Ayi mukta-kalir upasyamana.

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Just like Arjuna. Arjuna is killing, engaged in killing. People may

think that “Oh, Arjuna is not very good man. He is killing his

grandfather, he is killing his, what is called, nephews, and

devastating the whole family. Oh, he is not a good man.” Sometimes

comment, people comment like that. But Krsna says, bhakto ‘si priyo

‘si me: “You are My very dear friend.” Just try to understand. In the

estimation of the material world he is a very good man, er, he is not

a good man because he is killing his own kinsmen. But in the

estimation of Krsna, he is dear friend and devotee. So that is the

difference between a devotee and good man of this world. A devotee is

naturally very good man, but when he acts just like a bad man on

behalf of Krsna, he does not fall down. He still remains a pure

devotee.

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Just like this arrangement, this Kumbha-lila arrangement, is a

prescription by the Brahmavadis. There is a prescription that one

should go during this time, maghamela, and live in the confluence, on

the bank of the confluence of Ganga and Yamuna and at least three days

he must live. Then he becomes eligible to enter into the heavenly

kingdom. These people who have come here, their ambition is to enter

into the heavenly kingdom. But a devotee does not care for heavenly

kingdom. A devotee cares a very fig in any planet within this material

world. As Krsna says, a-brahma-bhuvanal lokan punar avartino arjuna.

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Prabhupada: The demigods are not pure devotees. They are devotees.

Just like Brahma is the best of the demigods but he has a material

desire that “I shall be the controller of the universe.” Therefore he

is not a pure devotee. Bhaktivinoda Thakura has said, kita janma hau,

jatha tua dasa, bahir-mukha brahma-janme, nahi mora asa. Is not that?

So a pure devotee does not try to become a Brahma also, what to speak

of other demigods, because anyone within this material world, he has

got some material desire, anyone. Therefore he is not liberated. He is

conditioned. Only the pure devotee who is trying to satisfy Krsna by

all his activities, he is liberated. What do you think, Ramananda? Eh?

Is it clear or not? That’s nice. Thank you. Yamuna devi?

Yamuna: I surrender to your lotus feet, Srila Prabhupada.

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Prabhupada: All right. So anyone, if you have got doubt you can clear

1. Now you can try to understand how powerful is this pure chanting

of Hare Krsna mantra. Offenseless chanting of Hare Krsna mantra means

you remain liberated always. Offenseless chanting, once chanting is

sufficient. But because we are not offenseless, therefore we have to

make a regulated program that we must chant Hare Krsna so many times.

Otherwise one chanting of Krsna is sufficient to make you liberated,

one chant, “Krsna,” “Rama,” once, that’s all, sufficient. Just like

this Ajamila. Once he chanted Narayana. He became immediately

liberated because he was offenseless. But because we cannot do that,

therefore we have to make a prescription. Just like a child who cannot

write very good hand. He is asked that “You write so many pages.” By

writing, writing, writing, writing, writing, he writes good hand. So

we should not neglect. Chanting, chanting, chanting… Another… This

is one side. Another side is when you become liberated the chanting

will give you transcendental pleasure so that you cannot cease. You

cannot cease chanting. That is another side. That is liberated stage,

just like Rupa Gosvami, Haridasa Thakura. You cannot imitate Haridasa

Thakura but you must make a prescribed form that “I must chant so many

times.” That is for conditioned soul. When you are liberated, then

there is no need of giving you direction. You’ll feel transcendental

pleasure by chanting. You cannot cease. Yes?

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The Krsna consciousness movement, the technique, is that you may be

engaged in various types of work, but the mind must be always fixed up

in Krsna. That art you have to learn. How it is possible? It is

possible. Perhaps you have not seen–in India the women, they go to

draw water from the well and they keep on the head. They are going,

but the head is so balanced that the waterpot will never fall down.

There are many instances that if you learn how to keep the balance, in

spite of your movement the waterpot on the head will not fall.

Similarly, if you mold your life in such a way that Krsna should

always be remembered, then, in spite of your mind being very agitated,

your mind will be fixed up in Krsna. That is required. Therefore in

the devotional service we have got so many engagements.

This is the art.

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Because if you are engaged in ordinary karma… Karma I have already

explained. Karma means doing something for your personal benefit. That

is called karma. Or, in plain words, doing something for sense

gratification, that is called karma. And as soon as you engage your

activities for such sense gratification or for your personal benefit,

then you have to commit sins. That’s a fact. Therefore we are

entangled in this birth and death problem. So here the Visnuduta

advises that “If you want…” Tat karma-nirharam abhipsatam. “If you

desire at all that ‘I shall be freed from the resultant action of

karma,’ then your duty should be harer gunanuvadah khalu

sattva-bhavanah. You simply try to glorify the Supreme Lord always,

twenty-four hours. That will purify you.” Khalu sattva-bhavanah.

Sattva-bhavanah. Sridhara Svami says, sattva-bhavanah citta-sodhakah.

Sattva-bhavana means citta-sodhaka. Citta means the heart, and

sodhaka, the purifying process. So instead of taking yourself to these

prescribed ritualistic ceremonies, if you simply engage your mind in

describing or glorifying the Supreme Personality of Godhead… That is

our process. Our only objective is how to glorify the Supreme

Personality of Godhead. We are writing books, we are publishing

magazines, we are preaching, we are going everywhere–just to glorify

the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna. That is our only business.

This process is recommended here, citta-sodhaka. If you sit down and

write some article on Krsna, that means you have to concentrate on

Krsna’s activities or Krsna’s devotees’ activities, and that very

process will purify your heart. Therefore we always recommend to our

students that you write articles, read our magazine, read our book. In

this way if we keep ourself… Work for Krsna. ….

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So the chanting of Hare Krsna mantra, Caitanya Mahaprabhu has said,

sada, kirtaniyah sada harih, not that two hours or one hours, but one

should practice. And that is the recommendation as it was followed by

Haridasa Thakura. But because we cannot do that, therefore we have to

engage always in the service of Krsna. That will make me remembering

Krsna.

750917SB.VRN                   Lectures

Actually it is happening. In your country, the Europeans and

Americans, say, ten years before the beginning of this movement, you

did not know Krsna, every one of you. That’s a fact. How you are now

mad after Krsna? It is simply because by association. So association

is so important thing. You boys and girls in your country, you were so

luxuriously living. Why you have left everything and you are after a

beggar sannyasi? It is the association. The association is so strong.

Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura says,

tadera carana-sevi-bhakta-sane vas

janame janame mor ei abhilas

“Let me engage myself in the service of the Gosvamis and associate

with the devotees. I do not want anything.” Janame janame mor ei

abhilas. Bhaktivinoda Thakura said that kita-janma hau, jatha tuwa

das. This association. “Let me become a worm, not a devotee, even

worm.” Kita. Kita means worm, an insignificant ant, worm. Better to

remain as an ant with the association of devotees than to become a

Brahma without any devotee’s association. Brahma-janme nahi mora as.

Bahir-mukha brahma-janme, nahi mora as, kita janma hau, jatha tuwa

das. This is Bhaktivinoda Thakura’s hankering. So some way or other,

we are propagating this association, Krsna consciousness,

International Society for Krsna Consciousness. Why? Why we are

establishing so many centers? Just to give the people in general the

chance of association. It is very important thing, association. Sangat

sanjayate kamah.

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These are the, some of the practical examples. There are persons who

criticize chanting of Hare Krsna mantra. Namnad artha-vada. Because

the glories of the holy name are described here, that one can become

free from the sinful reaction of life simply by chanting the holy name

of the Lord, so sometimes those who are not in the line, they think,

“It is too much. It is too much.” So the next verse, the… It is

advised… Not it is too much. You can test it. Test it. What is that

test? Patita. When you fall down from a high place… Suppose from the

roof you may fall down, patitam. Skhalita: you may slip and fall down.

Bhagnah: by falling down you may break your bones. Then sandastah: you

may be bitten by some animal–cats, dogs, a snake. There are so many,

domestic. Then tapta: you may be burned. And ahatah: you may be

injured from others. Then during this time you can test, practical.

What is that test? Harir ity avasena aha. Try to chant Hare Krsna.

Puman. If anyone does so, na arhati yatanah. You’ll immediately feel

that from the injuries you are not feeling pain. This is practical

seen. Even a snake bite… You may be saved. The author says, never

says, that you may be saved from death, but the suggestion is that you

may not feel much pain. This is practical.

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So to forget Krsna and to become subjected to the condition of

material nature, that is called material life. Material life means to

give up the idea of going back to home, back to Godhead, but making

plan here to be happy. This is called maya, or material life.

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But sinful activities must be there. We are put into certain

condition; therefore it is called conditional life. Suppose you are

very pious man. You are not killing any man or any cow–we are very

careful–but still you have to kill. What is that? Because we are

walking on the street. You have seen. You are killing so many ants.

The position is like that. Even if you do not wish to kill, even if

you are very pious man, still you have to kill, unconsciously or

consciously. The world situation is like that. Anyone who has come

here, he must commit sinful activities. As soon as you get this

material body, then you must have to commit sinful activities, even if

you are very careful. It is not possible. Therefore sastra says, padam

padam yad vipadam: “Every step there is vipada.” You cannot be

excused. Because you are killing one ant unconsciously while walking,

your name is noted. Your ticket is immediately there: “Oh, you have

killed so many ants.” The law is so nice. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih

karmani. Automatically it is recorded, automatically, and you have to

suffer.

So then what to do? If the situation is like that, how to save?

Therefore Krsna says, yajnarthe karmananyatra karma-bandhanah. If you

dedicate your life for yajna… Yajna means for Visnu. Yajnarthe karma

means Yajna-purusa is Visnu. If you work for Visnu, then you are safe.

Otherwise you are becoming complicated. Yajnarthe. Krsna says

yajnarthe karma anyatra karma-bandhanah. If you are going to office to

earn your bread, very hurriedly to attend the office, and you are

killing so many ants, you are becoming entangled. You think, “I am

going to office to do my duty very hurriedly,” but you are becoming

implicated. But if you go out for receiving some help for worshiping

Visnu, then you are free. Then you are free. Exactly like that:

soldier who is fighting in the battlefield and killing so many men and

he is given gold medal, “Oh, you have killed so many. So many lives

you have killed of the opposite party, enemy. You take this Victoria

Cross.” He becomes recognized by the government. The same man, when he

comes home, if he kills somebody for his sense gratification, he will

be hanged. The same man. The same soldier, when he is fighting for

king’s service, government service, government is supplying him food,

everything–“So fight very chivalrously”–and offering him gold medal.

And the same men, when he comes home, for his sense gratification if

he kills a man, he will be hanged. He may say in the court, “Sir, I

have killed so many men in the battlefield and I was never hanged. I

was given gold medal. And now I have killed only one man and I am

going to be killed? Why? What is this?” “Yes.” For your sense

gratification, as soon as you do anything, that is sinful, whatever

you do. It may be so-called pious activities in your calculation, but

in this material world there is no such thing as pious activities or

impious. Everything impious.

710213SB.GOR                   Lectures

So Sridhara Swami is very nicely explaining

the omnipotency of chanting the holy name. So he says, tasmad idam

upapannam iti tatraha etavad iti. If one takes shelter of the

transcendental holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he

hasn’t got to go through the dharma sastras or abiding by the rules

and regulation of different kinds of religious scripture. Etavat.

Etavad iti. Simply by surrendering to the holy name. So this is

applicable in all ages, but especially in this age because nobody can

perform the ritualistic ceremonies of any religious principle. The

people are so fallen that they cannot. So this hari-namanukirtanam, it

is not that it is manufactured for this age. No. This is potent in all

other ages also, but especially it is potent because people in this

age, they are unable to execute any religious principles very nicely.

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Our, this temple worship, Deity worship, we are

following the principles of Deity worship because our acaryas

established temple, but main principle is chanting. Therefore,

whatever we are doing, we offering prasadam to the Lord, we are having

mangalarati, the main principle is chanting Hare Krsna mantra. This

temple worship, it can be avoided, but we cannot avoid chanting Hare

Krsna mantra. As such, we have introduced in several centers that

“Begin with Hare Krsna mantra, keeping the picture of Guru-Gauranga.”

If it is not possible to worship the Deity according to the rules and

regulation, there is no need of establishing temple. But if there are

devotees who can actually keep the temple worship method in right

order, then… Otherwise, simple, by chanting, everything is complete.

But when there is temple worship, there is automatic purification

because we have to rise early in the morning, we have to take bath.

This kind of purification help…, is helped by temple worship. But

when there is grossest type of people who cannot take to this, simply

chanting will do. Hari namanukirtanam. Kalau tad, kali, kalau. Kalau,

means this age, that cleanliness is very difficult to maintain.

Therefore kalau tad dhari-kirtanat. This is recommended.

So trayyam jadi-krta-matih. By the injunction of the Vedas, people

are captivated. “Oh, if I perform this yajna, then next life I’ll be

elevated to the heavenly planet, Svarga.” Svargaloka mem. So

madhu-puspitayam. That is also stated in the Bhagavad-gita.

Veda-vada-ratah partha nanyad astiti vadinah. Those who are simply

after the formulas of the Veda, they cannot understand. The same

example. Even at the present moment, because here is temple, people

are attracted. If you simply chant, very few people will come. Very

few people will come. Therefore both things are recommended. Trayyam

jadi-krta-matih. Their mind is so materialistic that they cannot give

proper respect or importance to the chanting of the holy name. Trayyam

jadi-krta-matir madhu-puspitayam vaitani ke mahati karmani yujyamanah

(?). They are… Generally, they are attracted for karma-kandiya

vicara. That is explained here. Puspitayam puspatanair artha-vadi-mano

harayam trayyam jadi-krta abhinivista matir yasya ata eva mahaty eva

karmani agni-stomadau sraddhaya yujyamano narake pravartate. If you do

not arrange for this gorgeous system, people are not attracted.

Therefore we have to do sometimes to attract people, this

gorgeousness. Otherwise, chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra without any

offense is sufficient. Therefore our Guru Maharaja introduced both the

processes. This arca, arca, this is pancaratriki-vidhi. According to

pancaratrika system, Narada-pancaratra, this worship of the Deity is

there. And bhagavata-marga, the path of Srimad-Bhagavatam, is simply

sravanam kirtanam. Out of the nine processes recommended, sravanam

kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam, so up to sravanam kirtanam

smaranam, that is Bhagavata-marga. That is the best. And pada-sevanam

arcanam vandanam dasyam, that is pancaratriki-vidhi.

   So both the viddhis, both the systems have been introduced. One

will help the other. That is the way. Simply Bhagavata-marga… Just

like in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, in the beginning, is simply

sravanam–param satyam dhimahi; janmady asya–smaranam, simply

remembering, memorizing the Supreme Truth. But, of course, the

pancaratrika-vidhi is recommended in the Second Canto. That, another

pancaratrika-vidhi, is worshiping the gigantic form of the Lord. These

things are there. But both, combined together, it is very much

helpful. Bhagavata-marga. Bhagavata-marga will help the

pancaratrika-marga, or process, and the pancaratrika process will help

Bhagavata process. Both together is helpful. Therefore my Guru

Maharaja introduced… You have seen the, what is called? That signia?

One side, pancaratriki-vidhi, one side bhagavata-viddhi. That is… I

have seen that Gaudiya Math emblem. Yes. And, so actually,

Bhagavata-marga is very strong. That is sufficient. But without

pancaratrika-vidhi this polluted body, polluted mind of the devotee,

cannot be purified. Therefore both the process should be adopted in

preaching Krsna consciousness movement.

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Srimad-Bhagavatam, and that is being imitated. Again this

karma-kandiya… This karma-kandiya vicara, fruitive activities. The

smarta brahmanas, they have manufactured a way of bhagavata-saptaha.

That is a farce only because it is imitation of the process adopted by

Pariksit Maharaja and Sukadeva Gosvami. But they are… These people,

at the present moment, they are neither Pariksit Maharaja nor Sukadeva

Gosvami. So how it is possible to finish Srimad-Bhagavatam within

seven days? That is not possible. It has become a profession, that

gorgeousness. They will make a mancha(?), they will perform some

ceremonies and there is some charitable. The result is that the

professional reciter will gather some money and some goods and he will

maintain his family. That’s all. And these people will say that “I

have heard for seven days Srimad-Bhagavatam.” Of course, there is some

effect, but this is not recommended anywhere in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,

that one has to hear Srimad-Bhagavatam within seven days. No. So far

we see in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it is said, nityam bhagavata-sevaya.

People should hear daily, regularly Srimad-Bhagavatam. Why seven days?

Regularly. Nasta-prayesu abhadresu nityam bhagavata-sevaya. Nityam,

daily, regularly, if one hears and chants Srimad-Bhagavatam, then

nasta-prayesu abhadresu, then the dirty things within his heart

becomes almost cleansed.

Now, just try to understand. By daily hearing… Because we are so

much contaminated that it is very difficult to get us freed from the

contamination, so nityam, regularly, there should be regularly class,

hearing of Srimad-Bhagavatam. Nasta-prayesu abhadresu.

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My Guru Maharaja introduced the sacred ceremony because foolish

people, they used to… Vaisnave jati-buddhih. They used to consider

Vaisnava as belonging to some jata, some particular caste. No.

Vaisnava is not in the particular caste. As soon as he is fixed up…

He may be coming from the papa-yoni, from the most abominable family,

but as soon as he is fixed up, immediately he is fixed up in the

position of a brahmana because sattva-guna… Nasta-prayesu abhadresu.

Nasta. Tato rajas-tamo-bhavah. He has no more inclination to be

attracted by the activities of tamo-guna and rajo-guna. They have no

more attraction for drinking, no more attraction for meat-eating,

therefore no more attraction for smoking, drinking tea. This means

that the rajas-tamo-bhavah, kama-lobha, greediness… We are addicted

to all these bad habits due to greediness. There is no other cause. A

man will not die if he does not drink. A man will not die if he does

not eat meat. He will not die. It is due to our greediness: “I want.”

And lusty. The illicit sex means lusty. So rajas-tamo-bhavah means

lustiness and greediness. So when one is fixed up in devotional

service, then tato rajas-tamo-bhavah kama-lobhadayas ca ye, ceta etair

anaviddha. At that time, when he’s fixed up in devotional service, his

mind is not disturbed with all this nonsense coming out of the quality

of ignorance and passion. Tato rajas-tamo-bhavah kama-lobhadayas ca

ye, ceta etair anaviddha. Anaviddham means it is not attacked by this

greediness and lustiness. Sthitam sattve prasidati: “He is immediately

in the sattva-guna, goodness. Therefore his mind is satisfied.” These

are the test. Mind is no more disturbance.

And as soon as his mind is in tranquillity, evam

prasanna-manaso…, because as soon as one is elevated to the

sattva-guna platform, he becomes happy in his mental situation. Evam

prasanna-manaso. Unless one is situated in tranquillity of his mental

position, one cannot understand the science of Krsna. That is not

possible. One must become satisfied. That satisfaction comes on the

platform of sattva-guna, not in the platform of ignorance and passion.

People are… They come… Mostly people, they are being conducted by

passion and ignorance. Therefore they cannot understand. 

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So our business is to accept a bona fide spiritual master, being guided by him, to follow

the rules and regulations. Then advancement is sure. There is no doubt

about it. And if we become hodgepodge and mix with hodgepodge and do

hodgepodge, there is no progress. Na siddhim. It is clearly said by

Krsna, “There is no question of perfection,” na sukham, “neither

happiness,” na param gatim, “and what to speak of being promoted to

the spiritual world? There is no…” Therefore vaidhi-bhakti, as it is

enunciated in the Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, Nectar of Devotion, by the

Gosvamis, we shall try to follow as far as possible. Be sincere and

hard-working. Then the success is sure..

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speculation, the Supreme Personality of Godhead cannot be understood.

There are many mental speculator, just like Aurobindo Ghosh. So he

speculated. He understood that there are activities even after

liberation, but he could not understand Krsna, so hard it is. Others,

the so-called sannyasis, just like Ramatirtha or Vivekananda, they

could not approach even, in the modern age. And the Aurobindo, he

approached up to the Brahman liberation, but he could not approach to

the understanding of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is…

Arjuna says also in the Bhagavad-gita, “It is very difficult to

understand Your personality.” Everyone becomes… The other day in the

Mela, Magha-mela, one Gangeshvarananda, retired high court judge, he

said that “This is the first time, Swamiji, that we are hearing from

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bhuyah. Sarva-guhyatamam bhuyah srnu me paramam vacah: “The most

confidential instruction, just try to understand.” (Hindi) “Surrender

unto Me.” They cannot understand: “Why shall I surrender?” But it is

the most confidential instruction. Those who cannot understand

Bhagavad-gita, they will put forward, “Why should we surrender? Krsna

has said about jnana, about karma, about yoga. Why not these

processes?” But he does not know that is the ultimate process. The

jnana, yoga, may help one to come to that point, bahunam janmanam ante

jnanavan, after many many births, but that is not the direct process.

The direct process is sarva-guhyatamam bhuyah srnu me paramam vacah

isto ‘si: “I am disclosing this most confidential part of My

instruction unto you,” isto ‘si, “because I love you.” Isto ‘si me

drdham iti. “Because I am confident that you are My confidential

friend.” Drdham iti tato vaksyami te hitam: “Therefore I am disclosing

this to you.”

Krsna does not say everyone that sarva-dharman parityajya, only to

a selected devotee. Because unless one is very highly elevated

devotee, he cannot accept this proposition. He is puffed up with his

material, contaminated life. That’s all. “I am this. I am that. I am

this. I am that. Why shall I surrender?” Actually they forgot. Dr.

Radhakrishnan says, “This is sophistry, that Krsna is demanding like

that.” He is proud of his becoming a great philosophy, but he does not

know he is a fool number one. He comments on the Bhagavad-gita in a

different way. That he does not know. Therefore he is surprised: “How

this gentleman, Krsna, is asking to surrender? I am so proud. I am so

learned.” But this is the only process. What is that? He again

explains it: man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. The same thing which was

instructed in the Ninth…

man-mana bhava mad-bhakto

mad-yaji mam namaskuru

mam evaisyasi satyam te

pratijane priyo ‘si me

Priyo ‘si me: “Because you are My very dear friend, you have fully

surrendered unto Me, therefore I am speaking to you.” Then He says,

sarva-dharman parityajya

mam ekam saranam vraja

aham tvam sarva-papebhyo

moksayisyami ma sucah

These three verses are the ultimate instruction of Bhagavad-gita,

sarva-guhyatamam.

So people do not understand, and they read Bhagavad-gita daily. And

they are very much proud: “I am reading Bhagavad-gita daily.” If

anyone actually reads Bhagavad-gita, then he will be Krsna conscious.

It is meant for that purpose. But they do not read actually. They

simply make a show. Neither do they understand what is Bhagavad-gita.

Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is. Is that all right?

So we have to preach in that spirit.

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for their study, what to speak of commenting upon it? He has no

business to comment on Bhagavad-gita because it is not their subject

matter. This should be very distinctly understood. There is a Bengali

parable, adhara vyapari yahare khabola (?). Adhara vyapari, a merchant

dealing in ginger, so he is taking information, “What about the

shipping one…, just like one cartload or one ship full of ginger?”

So adhare vyapari means he has not very large quantity to sell. Ginger

is taken, very little quantity. So ginger merchant, if he has got

stock, say, one bag, it will take months together to sell it. And if

he thinks that “I will stock hundreds of bags,” it is useless for him.

That is not his subject. But one who sells rice or wheat, that is in

great demand. That he can stock and talk of large shipment. Similarly,

those who are already engrossed in material qualities, the science of

God is not their subject matter at all. So that is the test. Just like

who shall be the guru? Whose subject matter is only Krsna or God, he

shall be guru, not an amateur man. He is doing some other business,

and in some pastime he makes a guru business. No, that is not their

subject matter. The subject matter is different.

Therefore Sridhara Swami says, avisayatvac ca tasya ity aha, gobhir

indriyair na cittena: “Because the subject matter is not for them,

however they may exercise their senses, gobhih…” Go means indra

(indriya). Simply by exercising… Just like there are so many yogis.

They exercise their senses only–yama, niyama, pranayama–senses. But

it is not their subject matter to understand God. They may show some

jugglery or some gymnastic, wonderful, or they may get some material

perfection, anima… The eight kinds of perfection in yoga system…

One can become very small. Just like there was a trailinga swami in

Benares. He was staying naked on the street, and the police objected,

and he was put into police custody. He again came out. That means

people became more devoted to him. But still… This is a perfection

by the gymnastic of yoga process, but that does not mean he knows God.

That does not mean. There was another yogi in Benares. Anyone who

would come to him, immediately in a pot he will present two rasagulla.

And after eating two rasagulla, the man will be captivated, and big

man, manager of bank and this and that, and they… They become

captivated. He does not know “What he has given me? Two rasagulla.

Say, two annas, or four annas at most.” So, but they become

captivated: “Oh, here is a yogi. He can manufacture immediately.” In

Calcutta I was passing in a street, Cornwallis Street, and there was

some crowd, and I entered that crowd, long ago, when I was young man.

So I saw that he was a Muhammadan (indistinct). He was giving everyone

some pieces of grass, straw. So he gave me one. So I saw it is raisin,

kismis. You see? So I immediate threw it away and went away. So some

yogi can show. He’ll press his beads, and there milk will come. So

there are so many yogic fantasies. But that does not mean that he

knows God. Or a great philosopher like Dr. Radhakrishnan, that does

not mean he knows God.

…likes to see, but Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches that “Even if You make

me broken-hearted, not being seen for life or perpetually, it doesn’t

matter. Still, You are my worshipable Lord.” That is pure devotee.

Just like there is a song, “My dear Lord, please appear before me,

dancing with Your flute.” This is not devotion. This is not devotion.

People may think, “Oh, how great devotee he is, asking Krsna to come

before him dancing.” That means ordering Krsna. A devotee does not

order anything or ask anything from Krsna, but he loves only. That is

the pure love. That is the teaching of Lord Caitanya. Aslisya va

pada-ratam pinastu mam: “Either You embrace me or You trample down,

You give me all kinds of miserable life and You break my heart, not

being seen by me…” This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s prayer in His

ecstasy of Radharani….

…   Krsna appears in two ways. He appears as antaryami, the Supersoul

within himself, within oneself, and He appears as the spiritual

master, externally. Caitya-guru and diksa-guru. Caitya-guru… As

caitya-guru, as the supreme spiritual master, He is in everyone’s

heart. And His representative… In order to help externally the

sincere person, He sends the spiritual master. Therefore the spiritual

master from outside and the caitya-guru from inside, they are

helping.The Supreme Personality is helping a devotee, a real, serious

devotee two ways: from within, from without. The Caitanya-caritamrta

therefore says that krsnera prakasa, manifestation of Krsna, a

spiritual master. And Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says, yasya

prasadad bhagavat-prasado yasya aprasadad na gatih kuto ‘pi: “If I can

satisfy my spiritual master, then I understand that Krsna is satisfied.

And if I cannot satisfy my spiritual master, then I have no other way

to approach Krsna.” These songs we sing every day. So my Guru Maharaja

used to say that “Instead of seeing Krsna, you serve so faithfully

that Krsna will see you.” That should be the process. Krsna is

omnipresent. He can see you, He can understand you, what are doing. So

we have to execute devotional service in such a faithful way that

Krsna will see us. Then you will be successful. “Don’t try to see

Krsna. Try to become seen by Krsna.” That was my Guru Maharaja’s

instruction. Caksur yathaiva krtayaiva antah-param. Tasyatma-tantrasya

harer ahisituh parasya mayadhipater mahatmanah. Evam bhutah

paramesvarah mad-anyad astiti.

Now, Yamaraja says that “I have got a master like that.” The

Yamaraja has anubhuti. Therefore he describes what is the nature,

characteristics, of his master. Yamaraja also does not say that “I

have seen my master.” But he still accepts that there is a master. “I

am not all in all.” Never said… In these slokas we do not find

anywhere Yamaraja says that “I have seen Him.” It is very common

thing. Now the goverment is going on. Not that everyone has seen the

president or the king, but still, the government is so nicely managed

that everyone knows that there is an executive head. So there is no

question of this villainy that “There is no God. I do not believe in

God. God is dead,” or “Everyone is God.” Not like that.

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When one is liberated in his original spiritual feature, he becomes

equal, just like in svarupa, in form; guna, in quality; and svabhavah,

characteristics, exactly like Visnu. Prayena duta: “It is very

difficult to recognize.” Just like in this world also, if the

president or the king comes in common dress, you cannot understand who

is president, who is king and who is a common man. Similarly, in the

Vaikuntha world also the inhabitants of Vaikuntha, they have got the

same feature of the body, same qualities, and same characteristics.

This is described here. Try to understand. What is that?

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Just like the sunshine is a combination of molecular parts,

something shining. Is it not? Similarly, brahmajyoti is combination of

the individual parts and parcels of God. But without individual

activity they cannot stay in the brahmajyoti for long. Because

everyone wants some individual activity. Just like we are sitting

together now. After some hour, every one of us will feel what is our

individual… Everyone will be engaged in his individual activity.

Therefore, according to Bhagavat-siddhanta, aruhya krcchrena param

padam tatah patanti. The individual soul who simply tries to merge

into the effulgence, Brahman effulgence… That position is attained

after many, many years’ austerity and penances. Aruhya krcchrena.

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Prabhupada: The change is taking place in this material world. There

all tastes are fixed up, rasa, eternal, eternal rasa. Every one of us

has a different taste of associating with Krsna, and that will be

realized when one is liberated.

Hamsaduta: So that’s fixed already.

Prabhupada: Yes. When you are liberated, you will understand in which

way you are related with Krsna. That is called svarupa-siddhi. But

that is attained when you are actually perfect in devotional service.

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is there.” That is one of the items of saranagati. Surrender means

when… Unless one is convinced that “Krsna will give me protection,”

so how he can surrender? There is no question of surrender. Avasya

raksibe krsna vivasa-palana. Bhaktivinoda Thakura has said to be

firmly convinced: “Then Krsna will give me all protection.” Therefore

surrender is perfect. Anukulyasya sankalpah pratikulyam vivarjanam.

Surrender means one should simply accept favorable service to Krsna

and reject anything which is unfavorable, and then next is avasya

raksibe krsna visvasa-palana: “And to be firmly convinced that ‘Krsna

will give me all protection.’ ” Therefore, instead of “trying to

protect myself,” a devotee should always remain dependent on Krsna.

That is saranagati. And to consider oneself that “Now I am in the

association of Krsna,” these are different items of saranagati.

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Hamsaduta: So Prabhupada, a neophyte devotee, he may think it might be

very nice to be Krsna’s friend, but he may actually be a blade of

grass and he’ll be fully satisfied when he comes to that stage.

Prabhupada: No. If he thinks like that, then he should cultivate that

knowledge in that way. Yes. That is described in The Nectar of

Devotion and Teachings of Lord Caitanya.

Hamsaduta: But that may not be his actual position. It may be

something else.

Prabhupada: No. But when, at the time of devotional service, if such

impetuses come, that means he has got such relation. It is to be

developed. That’s all. That means the actual relationship with Krsna

is coming out gradually. It is being developed. So one has to develop

it, following the footsteps of the Krsna’s friends in Vrndavana. These

are described here. Yes. Not directly. No. You cannot say that “I have

become Sudama.” No. You have to follow the footsteps of Sudama. “I

have become mother Yasoda.” No. You have to follow the footsteps of

mother Yasoda. That is real position. And as soon as you say, “I am

Yasoda. I am Su…,” then it is as good as the Mayavadis say, “I am

God.” You see? So dasa-dasanudasa. That process should be followed.

Devotee (2): Dasa-dasanudasa.

Hamsaduta: Suppose someone is satisfied simply being related with the

spiritual master.

Prabhupada: That is everyone’s business. Everyone’s business. That is

not a particular taste. That is the duty of all devotees.

Revatinandana: Srila Prabhupada, you are like Radha-Krsna-duta. You

are a devotee of Radha-Krsna.

Prabhupada: I am not Radha-Krsna-duta. My Guru Maharaja is

Radha-Krsna…

Revatinandana: Well, we would say that you were.

Prabhupada: No, no, no. My Guru Maharaja is Radha-Krsna-duta. I am

simply trying to carry his order. That’s all. I am not

Radha-Krsna-duta.

Revatinandana: But we have become your followers.

Prabhupada: That is your duty. Dasanudasa. That is the process.

Revatinandana: Somebody else might become a follower of a devotee of

Laksmi-Narayana.

Prabhupada: It is not that I am directly connected with Krsna or

Visnu. I am directly connected with my spiritual master, and my

business is to carry out his order. That’s all. If I can do that well,

that is my purpose. That’s all.

Revatinandana: But if somebody else may become, say, a devotee of

Laksmi-Narayana, then is it to be understood that he, then, because he

has become devotee of a follower of Laskmi-Narayana, he may come to

associate with Laksmi-Narayana?

Prabhupada: No, no. It is not that. A devotee is not particular

follower of Laksmi-Narayana, not of Krsna. One who is pure devotee, he

knows both the line is as perfect. He may be, a spiritual master is

devotee of Radha-Krsna, but his disciple may be a devotee of

Laksmi-Narayana. It does not hamper. It does not matter, because They

are the same. Ramadi-murtisu kala-niyamena tisthan. They are all one.

When we say “Krsna,” He includes everyone–Rama, Narayana, Visnu,

everyone. So let us… (end)

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Prabhupada: …raksanti tad-bhaktimatah parebhyo mattas ca martyan

atha sarvatas ca. So invisible Visnudutas, they are always traveling.

Just like Visnu, Lord Visnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is

all-pervading, He is everywhere, but our present eyes cannot see Him,

material eyes. Just like we cannot see even the living entity when he

is passing through this body, leaving this body aside, very small. We

cannot see. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih. By the

dint of your…, by the strength of your senses, the present material

senses, it is not possible to appreciate sri-krsna-namadi. Beginning

from Krsna’s holy name. (dog barking) (aside:) Where is this dog? No,

your dog. Your dog? This is your dog?

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But the Visnuduta protects, as Krsna says, that kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati, “My dear Arjuna, you can declare on My behalf that a devotee will never

be… A pure devotee…” Always remember–a pure devotee. Devotee

means a pure devotee. Contaminated devotee is different.

Dvidha(?)-bhakta and suddha-bhakta. Those who are contaminated with

material desires, with fruitive activities and mental speculation,

they are contaminated devotees. They are not pure devotees. Pure

devotees means anyabhilasita-sunyam, no material desires, no action

and fruitive activities, no mental speculation. So he is pure devotee.

So that pure devotee in transcendental position is always protected by

the Lord.

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don’t think that a devotee will not have enemies. A devotee may have

anything. Oh, he may be attacked by enemies. He may be attacked with

severe type of diseases and so many things. But he will be protected.

That is the difference between a devotee and a nondevotee. A

nondevotee is neglected. That is stated by Prahlada Maharaja, that

people may discover so many antibiotics or antiseptics for giving

protection, or “anti-” measures, but unless he is given protection by

Krsna, all those “anti-” devices will not protect, help him. That is

certain. Therefore we should take protection only of Krsna. Otherwise

our all protective measures will fail. Ravana…, when Ravana was

attacked by Ramacandra… He was a great devotee of Lord Siva, so he

began to pray.

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In whatever activities you are engaged… My Guru Maharaja condemns

the… Mana tumi kisera vaisnava, pratisthara tare nirjanera ghare,

tara hari-nama kevala kaitava, He says that in a corner, in a secluded

place, you are chanting in a cheating process for cheap adoration.

Why? Because he knows that those who are neophytes, if they imitate

the chanting, they simply waste their time. Therefore, he should be

engaged in other activities because he has got the power at the

present moment, karma… Karma means activities. This whole world is

full of activities. Therefore this karma should be changed into

bhakti, in devotional service. He…, one must be engaged in that…

It appears like karma, but it is not karma. It is bhakti. Here also…

Just like Krsna is doing something. That is not karma. That is

transcendental. Similarly, a devotee in Krsna consciousness, for

service of Krsna, if he is engaged which looks superficially as karma,

that is not karma. That is bhakti.

The sahajiyas, they do not know it. They think that “We shall sit

in a secluded place and chant, imitating Haridasa.” We have seen it.

Their imitation is useless. They fall down. Therefore, they must be

always engaged in some activities. Otherwise, he’ll be attracted by

the modes of ignorance and passion. Etavatalam agha-nirharanaya. Agha

means the reaction of sinful activities. Every one of us, anyone who

is in this material world, he is sinful. Without being sinful, nobody

is here in this material world. If he’s not sinful, then he’ll be

immediately transferred. Yesam anta-gatam papam jananam

punya-karmanam. Immediately transferred to the spiritual world. He

has… Just like a person who has finished his criminal punishment,

immediately he is released from the prison. Similarly, a person who is

freed from the resultant action of sinful activities, he immediately

becomes liberated.

710215SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230181/530501

According to Mayavadi school, the Absolute Truth is

imperson. In the Bhagavad-gita it is also said, kleso ‘dhikataras

tesam, adhikataras tesam avyaktasakta-cetasam. Say, for meditation, it

is very difficult to meditate on impersonal feature. Therefore, they

artificially think like that: “I am the whole. I am moving the stars,

I am moving the moon.” Or some color display is taking place.

Artificially. This meditation is artificial. Therefore, they do not

get any result. Simply waste time, and they remain the number one

debauch, as they are. So this kind of meditation… Because they will

not put any form… “The Brahman is impersonal.” So how they can think

of any form? It is very difficult to adjust. Therefore Bhagavad-gita

says, kleso ‘dhikataras tesam. They want to meditate upon impersonal

Brahman, but it is very troublesome. Because Brahman is not

impersonal, but force, they want to make Brahman impersonal.

So in order to mitigate this troublesome position, some of their

acaryas, Sankaracarya, has said that “You imagine a form. There is no

real form, but you imagine some form.” And he has recommended five

forms. The first form is Durga, Sakti. The second form is Surya, the

sun, sun worshiper. And the third form is Ganesa, and the fourth form

is Siva. And the fifth form is Visnu. Of course, these are the

different stages of spiritual development. Durga… Durga means the

material power, energy. So when a person is in the lowest stage of

material existence, he realizes some power. That’s a fact. The

scientists also, they realize some power, there is some power in the

material world. They go on searching after what is the ultimate power,

but they cannot find it out. That is not possible. But they accept

that there is some power, nature’s power. So that is the stage of

sakta stage, Durga worship. Then… Power… Just like modern

scientists, they also have gone to the power of the sun. That power,

another power. That power is sun, and that is called saura, worshiping

the sun. Just like there is a Parsi community in India. Fire worship

is recommended in the Vedas. So that powerful sun, sun-god, they

worship the sun. That is the stage of saura, saura stage. And then,

next is the power vox populi, the power of the votes. That is the

stage of Ganapati. Gana… Gana means the number of people. Just like

in nationalism they are counting upon the power. In this way, they

realize some sort of power, I mean to say, moving force or the soul.

That is the stage of… They say, sivo ‘ham. Sivo ‘ham. Aham

brahmasmi. That is the stage of saiva. And when they expand that, that

“This power, this spiritual power, soul, is all over, all-pervading,

impersonal Brahman,” that is… They, sometimes they accept Visnu.

Visnu means all-pervading. But their realization of Visnu is

impersonal.

710215SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230186/530501

take a form, we spiritual entities. We also take a form,

transmigration of the soul according to karma. I create a certain type

of mentality, and that continues throughout my life. And at the time

of death, because I have got a certain type of mentality,

man-mentality or God-mentality or dog-mentality or fly-mentality, any

kind of… There are so many. So I have to take a certain type of

body. So that body I have to take not by my whim. Daivena.

Daiva-netrena: by the decision of higher authorities. Daiva,

generally, it means the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His agents.

He has got many. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate. So the material

agent is Durga. So I create a mentality by my association with this

material world. There are three kinds of qualities: sattva-guna,

rajo-guna, tamo-guna. So one of them or mixed, I will have to accept.

Because I am associating. Just like… It is not difficult. If you

associate with the hippies, you will become hippie. If you associate

with the hippies, you will become hippie. If you associate with the

Vaisnava, you become Vaisnava..

…710215SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230190/530501

So Mayavadi wants to prove that the ultimate truth is nirakara, or

impersonal. So Krsna gives you intelligence: “Yes, you put this

forward. Put forward this logic, this logic, that logic.” Similarly,

Krsna gives… There is a Bengali proverb that how God works, that one

man, a householder is praying to God, “My dear Lord, there may not be

any theft case, burglary, in my home this night. Please save me.” So

one man is praying prayer, praying like that. Another man is praying,

the thief, “My dear Lord, this night I shall commit burglary in that

house. Please help me to get something.” Now, what is Krsna’s

position? (laughter) Krsna is everyone’s heart. So Krsna has to

satisfy so many prayers. The burglar and the thief and the

householder, so many prayers. So Krsna’s adjustment… But He’s

still… That is Krsna’s intelligence, how He adjusts. He gives

everyone freedom. And everyone is given facilities, but still He’s in

botheration. Therefore Krsna advises to his devotees that “Don’t plan

anything. You rascal, you nonsense, you don’t give Me trouble.

(laughter) Please surrender unto Me. Just go under My plan; you’ll be

happy. You are making plan, you are unhappy; I am also unhappy. I am

also unhappy. (laughter) So many plans are coming daily, and I’ll have

to fulfill.” But He’s merciful. If a… Ye yatha mam prapadyante

tams…

So except the devotee of Krsna, everyone is simply giving Krsna

trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. Therefore, they are called

duskrtina. Duskrtina, most miscreant, the miscreants. Don’t make any

plan. Accept Krsna’s plan. That will be simply giving trouble to

Krsna. Therefore, a devotee does not pray even for his maintenance.

That is pure devotee. He doesn’t give trouble to Krsna even for his

bare maintenance. If he has no maintenance, he’ll suffer, fasting;

still, he’ll not ask Krsna, “Krsna, I am very hungry. Give me some

food.” Of course, Krsna is alert for His devotee, but a devotee’s

principle is not to place any plan to Krsna. Let Krsna do. Simply we

have to do according to the plan of Krsna.

…710215SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230218/530501

Prabhupada: Feasting means puri and halava and a vegetable and a

chutney. That’s all. Four things. Make simple.

Tamala Krsna: And Prabhupada? Do you want us to offer feast to your

Guru Maharaja at noontime? A special plate of feast?

Prabhupada: Not a special plate. The process is that whatever we offer

to the Deity, that is offered to guru. And guru offers to his guru. In

this way goes to Krsna. We don’t directly offer Radha-Krsna. No. We

have no right. Neither He accepts in that way. The pictures of the

acaryas, why there are? Actually, one has to offer the plate to his

guru, and he’ll offer his guru, he offers his guru, his guru. In this

way it will go to Krsna. That is the process. You cannot directly

approach Krsna or other subordinates to Krsna. That is not possible.

710218SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230227/530501

So Sridhara Svami says, “As a physician without knowing the presence

of mrta-sanjivani…” In Ayurvedic medicine system there is a medicine

which is called mrta-sanjivani. Mrta-sanjivani. Mrta means death, and

sanjivani means giving life. Even a dead man can get life by drinking

that medicine. It is a strong tonic. It is still used in Ayurvedic

medicine, and some of the biggest manufacturer of Ayurvedic medicine,

they prepare, and it has a good sale. So it may not be exactly the

same mrta-sanjivani, but it is very well known. So Sridhara Svami

says… Just like one, a person, is suffering from fever, so according

to Ayurvedic medicine, tri-katu… Tri means three, and katu means

bitter. Tri-katu, just like nim, nim fruits, kalamegha and cirata.

They are prescribed, very bitter to eat. So Sridhara Svami gives this

example: “Without knowing that there is a very nice medicine,

mrta-sanjivani, they takes so many troublesome medicines. Similarly,

the great stalwart leaders of religious principles, without knowing

this Hare Krsna maha-mantra, they take to so many troublesome,

multiritualistic ceremonies.”

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Do you follow this Bengali? Sthavara. Sthavara means living entities

which does not move, just like trees, plants, creepers. And jangama

means those who are moving. Animals, man, they move. So a devotee

(sic:) who has actually in bhava stage, he may see a tree or an animal

or a man, but he does not see the man or tree or the animal; he sees a

part and parcel of Krsna, a jivatma. Panditah sama-darsinah. That is

the stage of full knowledge. He does not see the skin or the dress.

Just like when we talk with a gentleman, we do not see to the dress;

we see the person as he is. So that’s a stage. That is called

bhava-sam…, budha bhava-samanvitah. (end)

710220SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230258/530501

. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah.  As

Krsna’s pastimes, Krsna’s activities, are punya-sravana-kirtanah… If

somebody hears and chants, if he does not understand even a farthing

of it, still, he becomes pious. There is no need of understanding.

Simply that holy sound will make his heart pure. Pavitra-gatha. This

sound. Just like when kirtana is going on, an animal is standing. He

does not understand what is the meaning of that kirtana, but that

sound will purify him. There are many insects within this room, many

small creatures, ants, mosquitos, flies. Simply by hearing this holy

name, transcendental vibration, they will be purified

710220SB.GOR                   Lectures                  230259/530501

Therefore it is said Krsna never goes a step

forward from Vrndavana because gopis have captured them. Krsna cannot

go out of Vrndavana on account of gopis always thinking of Him. The

gopis will never cease to think of Krsna; therefore it is not possible

for Krsna to go out of Vrndavana, although physically He may not be

present. He has no difference between physical or mental, or subtle or

gross. He has no such difference. Krsna is absolute any way.

Similarly, if you also think of Krsna, if you are also pure devotee,

then Krsna is always with you. That is the advantage. Otherwise, how

Krsna says, yoginam api sarvesam mad-gatena? The topmost yogi: those

who are always thinking of Krsna. Pavitra-gatha.

730113SB.BOM                   Lectures                  230333/530501

So Indians are meant for welfare activities for the whole world. And

how they’ll do? Not by begging, “Give me rice. Give me milk powder.

Give me money. Give me this.” No. If you spread this Krsna

consciousness movement all over the world, then you’ll be respectful.

People will like you. They are very hungry for this Krsna

consciousness. So I am struggling alone. I require many Indians to

join and spread this movement all over the world.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

720527SB.LA                    Lectures                  230441/530501

If you take to natural life and live

peacefully and take to Krsna consciousness, that is your real life.

And if you simply increase botheration and problems, then you’ll have

to suffer. That is the position of modern civilization. Actually,

superficially we see that material advancement of material science,

people have got so many machines, so many facilities. But actually,

they are in trouble. Just like I gave you one example: the computer

machine. It can work for thousands of men. So thousands of men means

the thousands of men must be unemployed. And especially in your

country, they are taking advantage of this machine because the salary

is If you want to pay to the worker, a big, big salary. So they want

to save. They are taking machine, and they think they will save money,

so many workers. But the workers are becoming unemployed. The

government has to give them welfare. The government will tax. That’s

all. (laughter.) Government will not give money, welfare, from

government’s pocket. The government will increase your taxation. So

you are…, you stop payment by importing some machine, now you have

to pay that money to the government. This is called entanglement. This

is a crude example. I don’t say that you stop all this business, but

the material world is like that. You want to solve something; instead

of solving, you’ll create so many problems. This is material life.

Because our life is not meant for solving problems and creating

problems. Our life is meant for understanding God. Then everything is

all right. But that you have given up.

…720527SB.LA                    Lectures                  230444/530501

Then the next question is that how… People are not interested in

Krsna consciousness, and then, they are misled by blind leaders. So

how, what is the solution? That is Prahlada Maharaja saying,

naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim

sprsaty anarthapagamo yad-arthah

mahiyasam pada-rajo-‘bhisekam

niskincananam na vrnita yavat

Therefore one has to take shelter of a pure devotee. That is the only

solution. He says, naisam matis tavad urukramangrhim. The beginning

was that “They are not interested in Krsna consciousness.” Then how to

become Krsna conscious if that is the solution? Then Prahlada Maharaja

says, naisam matis tavad: “So long one does not approach a pure

devotee,” mahiyasam niskincananam, “great personalities, who has no

more any material interest,” niskincana, “and takes the dust of his

lotus feet on the head…” Naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim: “So long

one does not approach such personality, there is no possibility of

becoming Krsna conscious.” Naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim. As soon

as one approaches the pure devotee and takes the dust of his lotus

feet and puts it on his head, immediately, anartha apagamah, he’ll be

freed from all this nonsense. That means he’ll forget this idea that

“Materially we can advance.” This is the process

760331SB.VRN                   Lectures                  230455/530501

So Svarupa DamodaraGosvami was not at all satisfied with such writings. He chastised thebrahmana that “You cannot write.” So unless one is self-realized,

there is practically no use writing about Krsna. This transcendental

writing does not depend on material education. It depends on the

spiritual realization. You’ll find, therefore, in the comments of

Bhagavatam by different acaryas, even there are some discrepancies,

they are accepted as asat-patha. It should remain as it is.

710909SB.LON                   Lectures                  230483/530501

This materialistic way of life means chewing the chewed. Just like the

father. Father knows that “I married, I work so hard to maintain my

family, and it is very difficult to keep the high standard of living

in this age. We have to work very hard. Still, I engage my son also in

the same way. In spite of my very bad experience of materialistic way

of life, still, I engage my son in the same way.” This is called punah

punas carvita-carvananam. Punah punas means “again and again.”

Carvita: “chewing chewed things.” Just like sugarcane. One has chewed

it, has taken its juice–it is thrown away in the street. And if

somebody wants to taste it, “How it is sweet, let me see,” that is

called chewing the chewed. Similarly, we have got very good experience

about this materialistic way of life, hard struggle for life.

But the human society, it is also stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,

human beings, they are born of the quality of passion. There are three

qualities in the material world: goodness, passion and ignorance.

Therefore they love to work very hard. And that very hard working is

considered as happiness. That propensity of hard working… Just like

in London you will see: everyone is engaged in hard working from the

morning. You will see. All the buses and trucks, they are going with

great speed, and people are going to the working office or factory.

From morning til late night they are hard working, and it is called

advancement of civilization. So some of them are frustrated. They

don’t want it. They don’t want it. It will be frustration.

Frustration. After all, it is hard work. Just like the hogs, they are

working hard day and night for finding out “Where is stool, where is

stool.” That is their business. Therefore in one sense, this kind of

civilization is hogs’ and dogs’ civilization. It is not human

civilization. Human civilization means he must be sober. He should be

inquisitive. A human being should be inquisitive to know “Who I am?

Why I am put into this condition to work very hard to get a few breads

only? Why I am this uncomfortable situation? Wherefrom I have come?

Where I have to go?” These are inquiries. These inquiries are called

brahma-jijnasa. The Vedanta-sutra begins, athato brahma-jijnasa: “A

human being should be inquisitive to know these things: ‘Who I am?

Wherefrom I have come? Where I have to go? Why I am put into this

uncomfortable position?’ ”

So Krsna consciousness is for them who have become detestful of

this material world. They are good candidates for developing Krsna

consciousness. Then the inquiry may be that “What for these men are

working so hard? What is their goal of life?” That is answered in the

next verse by na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum. These people are

working so hard because they do not know actually what is the goal of

life. Na te viduh. Viduh means knowing; na means not. These people,

they do not know what is actually the goal of life. Na te viduh

svartha-gatim. num. He should know that his realEveryone says that “I am looking after my interests,”

but he does not know what is his interest. That he does not know. Na

te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnu… interest is to make his progress toward Visnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. They do not know it. Why they do not know it? Durasaya. By their hope against hope, durasaya. Duh means which is very difficult

to fulfill. I may hope something which is possible–that is good–but

if I hope something which is never possible, that is called durasaya.

Asa means hope, and durasa means which will never be fulfilled. So

here it is, the word is used, durasaya. Bahir-artha-maninah. Bahih.

Bahih, means the external

So here we have taken this… Bahir-artha-maninah. We want to be

happy by adjustment of this external energy. Durasaya ye

bahir-artha-maninah. That cannot be. You are spirit soul. You must

have spiritual food. You must have spiritual life. Then you can be

happy. Simply as you cannot be happy by having nice shirt and coat,

similarly, simply by materialistic way of life, I mean a gross and

fine… Gross means this high skyscraper building, machines,

factories, nice road goes motorcar. These are gross. And subtle: nice

song, poetry, philosophy. That is subtle, subtle matter. So people are

trying to be happy with this gross and subtle material existence. That

cannot be. Durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah. Na te viduh svartha-gatim

hi visnum durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah, andha yathandhair

upaniyamanah. Why they have accepted this sort of civilization?

Because they are led by blind leaders. Now, suppose we are conducting

this Krsna consciousness movement. Nobody is interested. Very few

interested. But if we give some false hope that “If you follow this

path, then within six months you will become God and you will be

all-powerful, and then…,” oh, so many people will come. You see?

Andha yathandhair upaniyamanah. One blind leader giving, leading to

other blind men. Suppose one blind man says that “All right. Come.

Follow me. I shall help you crossing this street, Mulberry Street. All

right.” So he is blind, and the followers are also blind. The result

will be that he is dashed by some motorcar or truck and they all die.

Andha yathandhair upaniyamanas te ‘pisa-tantryam uru-damni baddhah.

They do not know that we are tied up very hard by the laws, stringent

laws of material nature. How we can become free from this material

bondage? That is not possible. You have to take instruction who is not

751002SB.MAU                   Lectures                  230505/530501

Prabhupada: So these things are to be noted, how they are engaged in

sinful activities. And the solution is given in the Bhagavad-gita,

that “Produce food grain.” Annad bhavanti bhutani.

So I see in your this Mauritius land, you have got enough land to

produce food grains. You produce food grain. I understand that instead

of growing food grains, you are growing sugar cane for exporting. Why?

And you are dependent on food grains, on rice, wheat, dahl. Why? Why

this attempt? You first of all grow your own eatables. And if there is

time and if your population has got sufficient food grains, then you

can try to grow other fruits and vegetables for exporting. The first

necessity is that you should be self-sufficient. That is God’s

arrangement. Everywhere there is sufficient land to produce food

grains, not only in your country. I have traveled all over the

world–Africa, Australia, and other, in America also. There are so

much land vacant that if we produce food grains, then we can feed ten

times as much population as at the present moment. There is no

question of scarcity. The whole creation is so made by Krsna that

everything is purnam, complete. Purnam idam purnam adah purnat purnam

udacyate, purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate. If we don’t

produce food grain–you require it–and put unnecessarily men into

scarcity. That is sinful. That is sinful.

751002SB.MAU                   Lectures                  230508/530501

challenging his son, “Where you got this Krsna consciousness?” So the

son replied flatly that matir na krsne paratah svato va: “My dear

father, this Krsna consciousness cannot be achieved by speculation or

by hearing from others.” Matir na… Parata means hearing from others,

and svatah, svata means personally by mental speculation or

philosophical speculation. Mitho. Mitho means by congregational

meeting, by conferences. Why? Now, grha-vratanam. If one is addicted

to this material way of life, he cannot understand, or cannot be

convinced, about Krsna consciousness. In the Bhagavad-gita also, it is

said that,

bhogaisvarya-prasaktanam

tayapahrta-cetasam

vyavasayatmika buddhih

samadhau na vidhiyate

Those who are too much attached for materialistic way of life–means

sense gratification… Materialistic way of life means sense

gratification.

670306SB.SF                    Lectures                  230667/530501

From the beginning of life means… Actually, our life begins at

the age of five years. According to Canakya Pandita’s niti, it is said

that the boys, the children, should be given complete freedom to do

anything he likes up to five years, not more than that. Lalayet

panca-varsani: “Up to five years a child should be given all freedom.”

Never mind however miscreant he may be. But from five years to fifteen

years–that means a period of ten years–tadayet. Lalayet

panca-varsani tadayet dasa-varsani: “You should give all freedom to

your child for five years, and then, next ten years, you should be

very strict, very strict, so that the child may be very much afraid.

And as soon as he attains sixteen years of age, then you should treat

him like friend, not, I mean to say, so strictly.” These are the moral

instruction by Canakya Pandita.

So Prahlada Maharaja advises the bhagavata-dharma. Bhagavata. What

is the bhagavata-dharma? Bhagavatan dharman acared yata arthadam etaj

janma devadi-janmani maha-visaya avisat. Now, why this life is given

so much importance, this human life? There are many other lives, lower

and higher. In the higher planets there are demigods. They are far

more improved, they are more intelligent, they are more happy than

this planet. You must know that the higher planets, the comforts of

life is thousand times more. As you go in the higher planetary system,

the standard of life, the conveniences, are thousand times greater

than in this planet. Therefore the commentator, Sri Jiva Gosvami is

that “Why not bhagavata-dharma, cultivate Krsna consciousness, in the

life of demigods? Why in this human form of life?” So the answer is

that devadi-janma, devadi-janmani maha-visaya avisat. Devadi-janmani.

In the lives of demigod, they are puffed up with so much material

enjoyments that there is very little chance to become Krsna conscious.

Just like in India still, in this fallen condition of India,

whenever there is Bhagavata recitation, thousands of people still will

assemble because the benefit is that they are little poverty-stricken

than the western people. So Jiva Gosvami says that a person who is too

much puffed up with material facilities, it is very difficult for him

to come into Krsna consciousness…

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So the contradiction was answered by Sukadeva Gosvami, not

personally. He took authority. What is that authority? He said

immediately, “My dear king, this answer I shall not give you, but a

similar answer was put forward by your grandfather, Maharaja

Yudhisthira, to your other grandfather, Krsna.” Krsna also happened to

be grandfather of Maharaja Pariksit. Because Krsna’s sister was

married to Arjuna and Maharaja Pariksit is the grandson of Subhadra,

Arjuna’s wife. Therefore Krsna also happens to be grandfather of

Maharaja Pariksit, and Maharaja Yudhisthira also happens to be

grandfather, being the eldest brother of his grandfather. So Krsna is

the authority. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami is giving authoritative

answer as it was spoken by Krsna. This is the way of speaking. One

should cite authority. Sukadeva Gosvami was not less authority. As I

described the other day that there are twelve authorities. Out of

them, Sukadeva Gosvami himself is one of the authorities. But still,

he is citing the authority of Krsna. That is the way of presenting

680610SB.MON                   Lectures                  230775/530501

Prabhupada: Body of Christ is not ordinary body. That is spiritual

body. Krsna, as Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, yada yada hi

dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca

duskrtam, dharma-samsthapanarthaya yuge yuge sambhavami atma-mayaya.

So this is a very subtle point. One has to understand that when God

comes or God’s son comes or God’s representative comes, they do not

accept a body like us. They have their spiritual body.

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If you have to learn Bhagavad-gita, then you have to learn

Bhagavad-gita as Krsna speaks or as Arjuna understands. Just like if

you take a medicine bottle. The direction, as it is stated in the

bottle, you have to take medicine in that way. You cannot make your

own direction, interpretation. (break) Nonsense. We don’t accept.

(break) We are publishing one book, Bhagavad-gita As It Is. It has

been taken by one great publisher, Macmillan Company, and we’ll have

it by the month of October. Don’t interpret. We explain things as they

are. That should be the attitude. Why? Why interpretation? By

interpretation, there are 664 editions of Bhagavad-gita. Simply by…

One medical man he has interpreted Bhagavad-gita, Krsna is a physician

and Arjuna is a patient. And he has tried to explain through

Bhagavad-gita all anatomic physiology, not this. Gandhi, he wanted to

prove nonviolence from Bhagavad-gita. The Bhagavad-gita is being

spoken in the battlefield, full of violence, and he is trying to prove

that the Bhagavad-gita is nonviolent. These are all artificial

attempts. These explanations will never give you the real light from

Bhagavad-gita. You try to understand Bhagavad-gita as it is. (break)

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Prabhupada: With your material mind. When you are Krsna consciousness

your quality of mind is changed. The mind, the understanding of God,

is simply purification of the senses. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved

grahyam indriyaih. By the present senses you cannot understand what is

God, what is His name, what is His quality, what is His form, what are

activities. You have to learn this. The Bhagavad-gita says vetti

tattvatah. You have to learn. So now as you say, that mind… Of

course, with this mind you cannot understand. You cannot think of

Krsna. With this tongue you cannot chant Hare Krsna. With these ears

you cannot hear what is Hare Krsna. With these eyes you cannot see

what is Krsna. But if you purify… Just like cataractic eyes cannot

see, but if you purify the eyes, then you can see everything. The eyes

will remain as it is, but you have to purify. The process is

purification. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau.  That purification takes place

when you engage yourself in the service of Krsna.

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consciousness.” The mistake of modern civilization is that we are, I

mean to say, bringing up spoiled children. So when they are grown up,

if they become hippies or communists, it is not their fault. It is the

fault of the guardians. It is the fault of the guardians. When the

people become just something against the social convention, it is not

the fault of the youngsters, but it is the fault of the education

system, it is the fault of the parents, it is fault of the teachers.

Because they are not teaching. Prahlada Maharaja says that from the

very childhood one should be taught. I have seen in India. The

Muhammadans, they are very much particular about it. The small

children, within ten years, they are… From the very beginning they

are taught Koran in the mosques. I have seen. In my Delhi headquarter,

it is just behind the Jama Musjid. You have heard the name of Jama

Musjid. That is the greatest mosque in the world. Many foreigners go

to see it. It was constructed by Emperor Shah Jahan, say, about three

hundred years or little more than that. So the Muhammadans, they are

very particular to teach the Koran from the very beginning. That’s a

very nice system. Either you teach Koran or you, Koran, Bible, or you

teach Bhagavad-gita, it doesn’t matter. One should have the idea of

God consciousness. Then he can develop. So this opportunity should be

offered to the children. If not, they are not real guardians, real

parents, or real teachers. Why? Durlabham manusam janma. This Prahlada

Maharaja teaching is not this Bhagavatam. Just mark it. Prahlada

Maharaja says, dharman bhagavatan, “the religion of Godconsciousness.” He does not say Hindu religion or Muhammadan religion or Christian religion.

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not service. Krsna is so kind. Even those who are not serving Krsna

directly Everyone is serving Krsna but not directly. What is the

difference between ordinary man and this Krsna consciousness man? The

difference is that Krsna consciousness man knows that “I am eternal

servant of God. Therefore let me willingly serve Krsna.” And others,

they are also serving Krsna, but by force, by maya, by the qualities

of nature.

Just like a citizen of a state who has violated the laws. He is

also obeying the laws in the prisonhouse, forced: “If you don’t obey,

then you will be punished.” That is called prison life. And if you

become obedient to the laws, then you are not outlaws. You are free,

out of the walls of the prisonhouse. So either you obey or not obey,

you have to serve the laws of the state. Similarly, either you be

Krsna conscious or not Krsna conscious, you have to serve. But in

non-Krsna consciousness condition, you have to serve your senses. And

in Krsna consciousness condition you serve Krsna directly. That is the

difference. …

So intelligent man, he thinks that “Throughout my whole life I have

given service to the lust, anger, and desire, and so many things.” We

are serving. Always remember that whenever we serve somebody, we do

not serve that person, but we serve our lust. Because the person will

pay me something, and out of that payment I shall be able to gratify

my senses, therefore I am not serving anyone, but I am serving my

senses. That is the sum and substance. That is the sum and substance.

Similarly, if you serve Krsna, the same service is there. Only

difference is that it is not service to the sense grati…, senses,

but it is the service to the sense proprietor, Hrsikesa. Krsna’s

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Now, this Srimad-Bhagavatam which is in this table, this book is a

great, grand edition of Srimad-Bhagavatam. Each verse contains eight

commentaries by great stalwart devotees. They represent different

disciplic succession of devotee. They are… There are four authorized

disciplic successions. As I have already mentioned that Brahma is one

of the authorities, similarly, he has got the disciplic succession

from Brahma. From Brahma to Narada, from Narada to Vyasadeva, from

Vyasadeva to Madhvacarya, from Madhvacarya to Mad… I am making

shortcut. From Madhvacarya to Madhavendra Puri, from Madhavendra Puri

to Isvara Puri, from Isvara Puri to Lord Caitanya, from Lord Caitanya

to Svarupa Damodara, from Svarupa Damodara to six Gosvamis, Rupa

Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, from Gosvamis to Krsnadasa Kaviraja

Gosvami, the author of Caitanya-caritamrta, and from him Narottama

dasa Thakura, and from Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha Cakravarti,

from Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura to Jagannatha dasa Babaji, from

Jagannatha dasa Babaji to Bhaktivinoda Thakura, from Bhaktivinoda

Thakura to Gaurakisora dasa Babaji Maharaja, and from Gaurakisora dasa

Babaji my spiritual master, and then we are descended.

Devotees: Jaya! Haribol!

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… In the belly or the abdomen of the mother, the child

remains in a very miserable condition. Because the consciousness is

not developed. But as soon as the consciousness is developed at the

age of seven months, the child wants to come out. Therefore it moves.

If it is male child, then it moves toward the right side. If it is

female child, then it moves to the left side. So these are description

in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. So by the movement of the child you can

understand whether it is male or female. (woman exclaims

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Krsna’s prasadam distribution, so many ways. So our devotees all over

the world–there are a 102 centers–they are simply engaged in Krsna

consciousness. This is our propaganda, always, no other business. We

don’t do any business but we are spending at least twenty-five lakhs

of rupees, twenty-five lakhs of rupees every month, but Krsna is

supplying. Tesam nityabhiyuktanam yoga-ksemam vahamy aham. If you

remain Krsna consciousness, fully dependent on Krsna, then there will

be no scarcity. I started this Krsna business with forty rupees. Now

we have got forty crores of rupees. Is there any businessman in the

whole world within ten years with forty rupees he can increase forty

crores? There is no example. And ten thousand men, they are eating

prasadam daily. So this is Krsna consciousness. Yoga-ksemam vahamy

aham. As soon as you become Krsna conscious, you simply depend on Him

and work sincerely and then Krsna will supply everything. Everything.

So this is practically being manifested. State, example, in the

Bombay, now the land is one crore of rupees’ worth. And when I

purchased this land I had, might be, three or four lakhs. So it was

completely speculation because I was confident that “I shall be able

to pay. Krsna will give me.” There was no money. That’s a long

history. I do not wish to discuss. But I have got now practical

experience that you depend on Krsna–there will be no scarcity.

Whatever you want, it will be fulfilled. Tesam nityabhiyuktanam. So be

always engaged in Krsna consciousness. Then everything will be

fulfilled, any desire, if you have got.

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But let me live for

hundred years. Then we shall talk about Krsna.” And Prahlada Maharaja

said, “No.” Adhruvam: “You do not know when you will die. At any

moment you can die.” Padam padam yad vipadam. Therefore, before your

next death, you realize Krsna. Durlabham manusam janma tad apy

adhruvam. But arthadam. Arthadam means even if you live for a few

years and if you take the chance of chanting Hare Krsna, still, you

are benefited. You are still benefited.

So this chanting of Hare Krsna is so important that you can think

always that “Death is coming. Death is at my door. Let me finish my

chanting. Let me finish my chanting.” Always you should think like

that, that “Death is already coming, so let me chant.” So this is

called bhagavata-dharma, and Krsna consciousness movement means

bhagavata-dharma. So you read Prahlada Maharaja’s instruction very

nicely and utilize it in your life. Your life will be successful.

Thank you very much.Devotees: Jaya! (end)

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So brahma-bhutahmeans these things are the symptom: he is joyful, prasannatma, na

socati na kanksati, and samah sarvesu bhutesu. Then he can see.

Vidya-vinaya-sampanne brahmani gavi hastini, suni caiva

sva-pake…, pandita… He has become pandita. Samah sarvesu bhutesu.

When these conditions are fulfilled, mad-bhaktim labhate param–then

he enters into devotional service. So devotional service is not a

sentiment. It is most scientific, just to become freed from the

contamination of this material world…

… Just like the Buddhist philosophers, they

think sunyavadi. And the Mayavadi, nirvisesa. They are practically the

same. The Buddhists say, “There is no God.” And the Mayavadis say,

“There is God, but He has no head, tail, nothing.” It is in the

indirect way to say there is no God. What is difference? If somebody

says, “There is no God,” and if somebody says, “There is God, but He

has no head, He has no tail, He cannot eat, He cannot sleep,”

negatively. The same definition in a negative way…

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Visnu is original Lord, or our father. We have expanded. Mamaivamso

jiva-bhutah. Every living entity is part and parcel of Visnu, and they

are separated. Not separated but given freedom to serve Visnu. To

serve does not mean no freedom. It is not dull stone. Every living

being… Just like you are trying to serve the cause of Krsna

conscious. It does not mean that you have no freedom, you are like

stone. No. You have got freedom but you are utilizing the freedom how

to render best service to Krsna. That freedom is required. You must

have freedom. Otherwise it is a dull stone. We have constructed this

temple with freedom that “The temple should be constructed in this

pattern, in this fashion. It should be decorated like this.” So it is

freedom, but that freedom is not misused. It is used for the service:

“How best service we can render?” This is the proper use of freedom.

And when you misuse the freedom, then it is maya. That is called maya.

Therefore our freedom should be how to become fully engaged in loving

service of the Lord. Visnoh padopasarpanam. Yatha hi purusasya iha

visnoh padopasar… Why? It is still further explained, yad esa

sarva-bhutanam priya. Visnu is very dear to us.

Same example: Father and the son. The son is dear to father, and

the father is dear to the son, at least so long the child is not grown

up to rebel against the father and mother. Just like the small child

lying down on the lap of the mother. It does not know anything except

mother. So as soon as mother is not there it begins to cry because

very, very dear. Mother is very dear. Similarly, the child is also

very dear to the mother. This is natural relationship. So we being

part and parcel… What is this child? A part and parcel of the

mother. From very small body the child has grown. That means the

mother has given the body of the child. Therefore it is part and

parcel. Hm. What is child? From the mother’s body it has developed,

and then it comes out and develops again, go on. So yad esa

sarva-bhutanam priya. Therefore child is… Because part and parcel,

therefore the child is very dear to the mother and the mother is very

dear to the child, priya. Priya means very, very dear.

So similarly, our relationship with Visnu is very, very intimate,

very, very dear. It is not ordinary relationship. That is being

explained. You cannot give up your very dear friend, very dear father

and mother or servant. There are so many relationships: santa, dasya,

sakhya, vatsalya, madhurya. In different relationship, Krsna is very

dear to us and we are also very dear to Him. You have seen the Krsna’s

picture. He is patting the small deer because animal or man, everyone

is dear to Him. And for animal or man or everyone, Krsna is very dear.

This is our relationship. So this artificial way of life, forgetting

our relationship with Krsna, is condemned therefore. Na te viduh

svartha-gatim hi visnum durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah… Here in

this material world it is struggle for existence.

Manah-sasthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karsati. Simply struggle to

become happy. Why this struggle? Because they have forgotten that

Visnu is, or Krsna is very, very dear to him. He, instead of accepting

Visnu as very dear to him, he is accepting the maya as very dear to

him. This is the fault. Therefore he is not happy. Therefore struggle

for existence.

Therefore Prahlada Maharaja says that yad esa sarva-bhutanam.

Sarva-bhutanam. Not that Krsna is very dear only to the human beings.

No. Sarva-bhutanam. Because the relationship is very thick and thin,

so Krsna is also very dear to every living entity. We have forgotten

that. Just like the master and the servant, the crude example, the

dog: The dog loves the master because he knows, “The master gives me

to eat.” He feels obliged. The master takes care of the dog, and the

dog is very much anxious to serve the master. Similarly, eko yo

bahunam vidadhati kaman. Why our relationship…? Because Krsna is

supplying all the needs of life. Eko yo bahunam vidadhati. We require

so many things but who is supplying? Supplying, Krsna. Krsna is

supplying food to the small ant, and Krsna is supplying food to the

big elephant. Unless Krsna supplies there is no food. If Krsna does

not supply, if there is no production for your subsistence, then how

you will live?

So eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. Therefore our relationship is

very intimate. Not only my, but everyone, every living entity. Yad esa

sarva-bhutanam priya atmesvarah. Atmesvara, atma, self. So everyone’s

self means himself, the spirit soul, is very, very dear. Just like if

there is some danger immediately, then we shall leave this place

immediately and try to save our body from the danger. Why you are

trying to save your body? “No, because it is very dear to me.” Why it

is so dear? “Because I am living within this body.” So I love my body

because I am living within the body. Anywhere you take. You love your

house, love your home. Why? Because you are living there. So you are

loving yourself. Then why you are loving yourself? What is the source

of yourself? Visnu, Krsna. Mamaivamso jiva-bhutah.

So ultimately I love God. But there are so many impediments. I have

forgotten. I am thinking sometimes to love my body, my mind, like

that. But real love is because I am spirit soul, therefore I love

myself. And why I love myself? Because it is part and parcel of Visnu.

Therefore ultimately you love Visnu. But we have forgotten it. In

relationship with Visnu we have learned to love… Not love. That is

our lust. Real love is with Visnu. Because by nature there is love.

Just like the child. It loves the mother. And in the absence of the

mother he cries, and when the mother comes he becomes satisfied. So

our real love is for Krsna but that we have forgotten. And you are

offered, “Why you are crying? You take this. You take this. You take

this.” No. Nothing will satisfy us unless we again come back to love

our original source of life.

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Guest (2): Are we to take Krsna conscious dreams seriously or some

illusion?

Prabhupada: Well, that depends on your particular position, you see.

Sometimes a Krsna conscious persons dreams very seriously. Sometimes

communication is there by dreams. Yes?

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Laksahira.

There was a prostitute whose charges was one lakh of pieces of

diamond. It doesn’t matter, a big diamond or small diamond. That was

her charges. So one man was suffering from leprosy and he was being

assisted, (sic:) she was being assisted by his wife, very faithful

wife. So still, he was morose. The wife asked the husband, “Why you

are morose? I am giving you so much service. You are leper, you cannot

move. I can take you… I take you on a basket and carry you. Still,

you feel unhappy?” So he admitted, “Yes.” “Oh, what is the cause?”

“Now, I want to go to the prostitute, Laksahira.” Just see. He is

leper, a poor man, and he is aspiring to go to a prostitute who

charges 100,000 of pieces of diamond. So anyway, she was a faithful

wife. She wanted to satisfy her husband. Some way or other, she

arranged. Then, when the leper was at the house of the prostitute, the

prostitute gave him very nice dishes of food but everything in two

dishes, everything, one in the golden pot, another in iron pot. So

while he was eating, so he inquired the prostitute, “Why you have

given me in two pots?” “Now, because I wanted to know whether you will

feel different taste in different pots.” So he said, “No, I don’t find

any difference of taste. The soup in the golden pot and the soup in

the iron pot, the taste is the same.” “Then why you have come here?”

This is foolishness. The whole world is going on like that. They are

simply trying to taste the same thing in different pot. That’s all.

They are not detestful that “No more, sir. I have tasted enough.” That

is not fact. That is called vairagya-vidya, no more tasting: “It is

all the same, either I take in this pot or that pot.”

   Therefore it is said that sukham aindriyakam, the sense pleasure,

it doesn’t matter whether you enjoy as a dog or as a human being or a

demigod or as European or American or Indian. The taste is the same.

This is very important. You cannot have a better taste. Better taste

is only Krsna consciousness. Param drstva nivartate. So if you do not

increase your taste for Krsna consciousness, then you will try to

taste in this pot and that pot. That is the law. That will be,

continue business and continue disease, to taste in this pot and that

pot: “It may be very tasteful in this pot, may be tasteful…” The

whole world is going on. All these rascals, they go to different

countries for tasting sex life. They go to Paris… (break) …kam

daitya, sarvatra labhyate daivad yatha duhkham. Just like duhkham.

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Duhkha means unhappiness. So suppose a millionaire is suffering from

typhoid and a poor man is suffering from typhoid. Does mean that the

millionaire will have less distress than the poor man? When you have

got typhoid fever, either you are rich man or poor man, the sufferings

of typhoid fever is the same. It does not mean that “This man is very

rich man, he is not suffering from typhoid,” No. As unhappiness is the

same in different pot, similarly, the happiness also is the same in

different pot. This is knowledge. So why should I waste my time to

taste happiness and distress in different pots? The different pots

means these different body.

So this is not our business. Our business is to revive our original

consciousness, Krsna consciousness. It doesn’t matter in which pot I

am at the present moment…

…able to understand. Therefore Prahlada Maharaja says, durlabham

manusam janma. You have got the opportunity to understand what is

bhagavata-dharma. Don’t lose it like cats and dogs.

Thank you very much. (end)

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There are six kind of activities which will increase your

transcendental importance of life, and there are six kinds of

activities which will destroy your whatever little devotion you have

got. These, in the Upadesamrta you will find, how you can increase and

how you can finish. So about finishing, if you are actually advancing

in spiritual life, if that is your aim, then these six things should

be avoided. As it is said, prayasah. The first thing is atyahara,

eating too much than necessity, atyahara, or collecting more than you

require. For maintenance of your body you have to secure some monetary

benefit–but not more than what you require. People are not satisfied.

At the present moment everyone is trying to get more and more and more

and more and more. There is no satiation. This kind of endeavor is

forbidden. It will not help you. But people are mad after money. If he

is getting, say, five hundred rupees, he says, “No, why five hundred?

Five thousand.” And if he gets five thousand, then he says, “Why five

thousand? Five lakhs.” And if he gets five lakhs, then he says, “Why

five lakhs? Five crores.” This is there. The whole world is going on.

They are never satisfied. You go to any rich man: “Sir, you have now

enough money. Please come to our meeting in the morning,

seven-thirty.” “No, I have no time.” He’s earning money.

   So everyone thinks, “To earn money is my first business. That is…

And to work for it, that is my first business.” But that is forbidden.

In the Srimad-Bhagavatam this is forbidden. Becau… Why forbidden?

Because you cannot get more than what you are destined to get. That is

not possible. If by your karma, karma-phala, by result of your karma,

if you are to get some happiness, you will get that much, not more

than that. So what is the use of endeavoring? Therefore it is said,

tat-prayaso na kartavyo yata ayur-vyayah param. Simply waste your

time. Suppose you are doing some business and earning money. And if

somebody says that “You cannot get more than five hundred rupees per

month,” then why you’ll work so hard? But because they have no

information–they do not take consultation from the right

person–therefore they are trying uselessly. The human life was meant

for understanding Krsna. Instead of using the energy for understanding

Krsna, they are spoiling the energy unnecessarily to earn money. This

is the modern civilization. The whole Western world, how they are

spoiling their life unnecessarily. We should be satisfied in the

economic position as we are put into.

So in another place Narada Muni says,

tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovido

na labhyate yad bhramatam upary adah

tal labhyate duhkhavad anyatah sukham

kalena sarvatra gabhira-ramhasah

Gabhira-ramhasah, tal labhyate. Your material gain, happiness or

distress, you are destined to get. You’ll get it. Again the same,

duhkhavad anyatah. Anyat natah. Nobody tries to get distress. If you

ask anybody that “Why you are working so hard?” nobody says that “I am

working so hard, I want distress.” Nobody will say. Everyone will say,

“I’ll be happy. I’ll get happiness. Therefore I am working hard.” “No,

this is distress.” “Yes, this is distress, but I’ll get happiness

after this.” This is called maya. He is undergoing distress, but he is

thinking, “I’ll get happiness.” This is called maya. So there is no

use. This is sastric injunction. You have to see your future through

the sastra. So don’t waste your time in that way.

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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.) “Endeavors merely for sense

gratification or material happiness through economic development are

not to be performed, for they result only in a loss of time and

energy, with no actual profit. If one’s endeavors are directed toward

Krsna consciousness, one can surely attain the spiritual platform of

self-realization. There is no such benefit from engaging oneself in

economic development.”

Prabhupada:

tat-prayaso na kartavyo

yata ayur-vyayah param

na tatha vindate ksemam

mukunda-caranambujam

This is the essence of instruction of all Vedic instructions. What is

that? Na tat prayaso kartavyo. Everyone is engaged for developing

economic condition. The whole world is engaged how to develop economic

condition.

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The human life is meant for visnu-aradhanam. That is therefore the

varnasrama: brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. The aim is

visnu-aradhanam. Visnu-aradhanam param. We are flattering so many

people to get some benefit. Everyone has to flatter. Businessman has

to flatter his customer; a servant has to flatter his master; and so

on, so on, some friend, some minister to get some favor. But Lord Siva

says, “So why don’t you flatter Visnu? Visnu-aradhanam param.”

Tadiyanam aradhanam. This is the sastric injunction.

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So this is Prahlada Maharaja’s instruction, that “Don’t waste your

time. Human life is very valuable.” And Canakya Pandita also says,

ayusah ksana eko ‘pi na labhyah svarna-kotibhih: “You cannot get back

even one moment of your life by paying millions of dollars. So if you

waste your time…” The Krsna conscious people, they should not be

lazy. They should always remember that death is already there. Let me

finish my business properly so that after death I may not be a cat and

dog. At least I may get… There is no… My Guru Maharaja used to say

that “Why should you wait for another life? Finish Krsna consciousness

business in this life.” In this life. Why you should set aside the

business for another life? No…. Suppose you worship a demigod. Yanti

deva-vrata devan. You can be elevated to the celestial world, heavenly

planet. But what will be benefit? You’ll have to die there. The same

death is there. You have to struggle there. Don’t think that the

demigods, they are living very peacefully. No. That is not possible.

Indra is always embarrassed with so many things. You have read the

fight with Indra. So many asuras, devasura, Hiranyakasipu. The same

thing as… Simply they have got a long duration of life, a high

standard of life, but the same struggle. Just like here you see in

India and Europe, America. They have got the high standard of life,

they have got skyscraper building, very big, big roads, motorcar. But

what is that? Simply struggling. Are they happy? We are poor country.

Of course, we have no such opulence. But the standard, the

janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi, is there, not that they are sitting idly and

food is coming automatically. No. They have to struggle. So either you

be in the heavenly planet or in the lowest planet, the struggle is

there. Manah-sasthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karsati. So long we’ll be

in the material world, you have to… A-brahma-bhuvanal lokan punar

avartino ‘rjuna. Even you go to the Brahmaloka or Indraloka,

Candraloka

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matir na krsne paratah svato va

mitho ‘bhipadyeta grha-vratanam

adanta-gobhir visatam tamisram

punah punas carvita-carvananam

That, Krsna consciousness, matir na krsne. People are very much

reluctant to become Krsna conscious. Why? Matir na krsne paratah svato

1. By others’ instruction Just like we are trying to spread Krsna

consciousness all over the world, paratah. Svato, svato means

personally. By personal endeavor. Just I am reading Bhagavad-gita or

Srimad-Bhagavatam and other Vedic literature. So, matir na krsne

paratah svato va. Mitho va, mitho va means “by conference.” Nowadays

it is a very popular thing to hold conferences. So one cannot become

Krsna conscious either by his personal endeavor or by advice of some

other men or by holding big, big conferences. Why? Grha-vratanam:

because his real aim of life is that “I shall remain in this house.”

Grha-vratanam. Grha means household life, grha means this body, grha

means this universe. There are so many grhas, big and small.

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Beyond this there is another

nature, a spiritual nature, sanatana. That is called sanatana. Paras

tasmat tu bhavo ‘nyo vyakto ‘vyaktat sanatanah. And the

jiva-bhutah–sanatana. And in the Eleventh Chapter, Arjuna describes

Krsna as sanatana. So three sanatana. Three sanatana. So if we are all

sanatana, there is sanatana-dhama and Krsna is sanatana, we are also

sanatana. So when they are combined together, that is called

sanatana-dharma. They do not know what is sanatana. They think that if

I dress in a certain way and if I am born in a certain community, then

I become sanatana-dharma. No. Everyone can become sanatana-dharma. But

they do not know what is the meaning of sanatana. Every living entity

is sanatana. And Krsna, God is sanatana. And there is a place where we

can meet together–that is sanatana dhama. Sanatana dhama,

sanatana-bhakti, (indistinct), sanatana-dhama. When it is executed,

that is called sanatana-dharma. 

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pada-sevanam arcanam… This is arcanam, worshiping the Deity in the

temple, this is called arcanam. The Lord is called arca-vigrahah,

arca-avatara. He is also incarnation. Another incarnation,

arca-avatara. He’s giving facility to the devotees to handle Him. If

you do not get the opportunity to serve the Lord, how you can be

perfect? So this arca-vigrahah is Lord’s incarnation to give

facilities to people like us who cannot see God everywhere. For the

neophyte devotees, it is essential to worship the Deity. But if we

simply worship the Deity without hearing about the Lord, sravanam

kirtanam–these things are essential–then the Deity worship will be a

burden. At a certain point, it will be a burden, and gradually it will

be neglected, and the whole thing will be spoiled. So both things

should continue: bhagavata-marga and pancaratriki-marga. Deity worship

is pancaratriki-vidhi, and bhagavata-marga is hearing, chanting, like

that. Both of them should be accepted, parallel line. Otherwise, one

without the other will be later on troublesome. So you must continue.

This temple means not only we shall decorate the Deity very nicely,

cleanse the temple:

sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana-

srngara-tan mandira-marjanadau

yuktasya bhaktams ca niyunjato ‘pi…

So the temple worship should go on, at the same time, sravanam

kirtanam of Visnu must go on. Two things, parallel. Then it will be

done very nicely.

So actually this life is meant for this purpose. Sravanam kirtanam

visnoh. There is no other purpose. All other activities secondary. So

those who are very much advanced in spiritual life, just like the

brahmanas, the sannyasis, they did not bother about what to eat, where

to sleep. Sex life is completely forgotten. Even what to eat, where to

sleep, there is no such consideration. Simply engaged in Krsna

consciousness. That is only business. Of course, we cannot do that in

the neophyte stage, but actually that is the only purpose.

Unfortunately, the modern civilization has discovered so many

artificial ways of life that it is very, very difficult to execute

Krsna consciousness business. So therefore Prahlada Maharaja says that

simply for sense gratification, if we waste our time, that is not

good. Tat prayaso na kartavyo– don’t waste your time for increasing

the scope of sense gratification. That is not at all required….

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So to control over the material urges, that is required in

spiritual… We have to come to the spiritual platform. That is called

tapasya. Tapo divyam putraka yena sattvam yasmad brahma-saukhyam tv

anantam. We are searching after happiness, but in the material world

you cannot have happiness. That is a fact. Whatever little happiness

you get, that is also distress. One has to attain to that stage of

happiness with(out) distress. So that is a long history; everyone

knows that happiness is not possible. But we arrange to get

so-called… Happiness means sense gratification. That is not

happiness. Sukham atyantikam yat tad atindriya grahyam. Directly sense

perception is not happiness. These things are in the Bhagavad-gita,

you will find: sukham atyantikam yat tad atindriyam grahyam.

Atindriyam means beyond these material senses, transcendental, there

is another happiness. That is transcendental bliss. That we perceive

little bit while we are chanting. By chanting, chanting, chanting,

when you’ll be purified, then you will have the opportunity of tasting

that transcendental bliss. Otherwise, the so-called happiness derived

from the senses, that is not happiness. That is crude, that is for the

fools and rascals. That is not happiness.

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krsna-prema-pradaya te: “My dear Lord, You are the most munificent,

magnanimous incarnation, because You are distributing love of Krsna.”

This is very rare thing, love of Krsna. Krsna personally failed. He

canvassed, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja: “You give

up everything. Just surrender unto Me, Krsna, personally.” But nobody

surrendered; only a few persons of the Pandavas, Arjuna, Bhima, or the

gopis in Vrndavana. But at that time there were others. And later age,

people misunderstood Him. But the idea is that Krsna also came to

distribute love of Krsna, but He actually could not induce people to

this cult. They misunderstood Him. But Lord Caitanya, by His grace, by

this sankirtana movement, He very easily distributed this love of

Krsna. Therefore He is called namo maha-vadanyaya: “My dear Lord, You

are the most magnificent, munificent personality, incarnation,

because,” krsna-prema-pradaya te, “You are distributing krsna-prema,

love of Krsna, the most important thing, the goal of life.” And that

was the mission of Lord Caitanya. He said, kalau, in this age, when

everything has become topsy-turvied, there is no more chance for

systematizing the whole human society. It is lost. The regulating

processes are lost now, and neither it is possible to reintroduce it.

It is not possible. People have become so much degraded that it is not

possible. Therefore direct method. Direct method: chant Hare Krsna.

That will revive your old consciousness. Chant Hare Krsna. Caitanya

Mahaprabhu says, kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha:

“In this age there is no other alternative, there is no other

alternative.” The so-called meditation, yoga or karma, jnana, mental

speculation–everything will fail.

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Now, just like people protest because we are giving the position of

a brahmana to the mlecchas, yavana. Yavanah khasadayah. Khasadayah

means Mongolians, the Chinese, Japanese and the Philipines. So they

are khasadaya. The Manipuris, Assamese, they are considered as

khasadaya. So there is no distinction. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given

open declaration: krsna-bhajanete nahi jati kuladi vicara. Anyone who

is desirous of becoming Krsna conscious, it is open. Anyone can come.

By proper training by the expert spiritual master everyone can be

raised to the brahminical platform and then Vaisnava platform.

sudhyanti. So how sudhyanti? Sudhyanti. So how sudhyanti? The general

process is that unless one is (sic:) not born in brahmana family, he

is not suddha; he is impure by birth. That is fact. But the devotee

can change. This is new birth, undoubtedly. Just like these, our

European, American students. They are new birth. They have given up

their old birth practices. So birth is changed. Punar janma. So that

is possible only by Krsna consciousness. If one has to change his body

without changing body… The body is changed,[referring to caste brahmanas saying one has to change body in next birth] but we see that the same

body…, but it is not the same body. It is cin-maya. The same

example, that the iron rod put into the fire, it becomes red hot, so

it is no longer iron; it is fire. Similarly, if we constantly keep

ourself in touch with Krsna consciousness, then the body is no longer

material; it is spiritual.

idea.

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This life, we are thinking

that “I am eighty years old or ninety years old.” But it is not eighty

years, ninety… It is mrtyu. Mrtyu. You are dying every moment. It is

the life of mrtyu. Therefore one has to save. Na mocayed yah

samupeta-mrtyum. A child is grown up, five years old. Suppose he’ll

live hundred years. So that means he has already died five years.

Therefore it is mrtyu. Or we have grown eighty years old. That

means… Suppose I live hundred years. Still, I have already died

eighty years. Therefore it is mrtyu. The whole life is mrtyu. Every

moment you are dying, dying, dying, dying, from the very birth.

Suppose a child is born one hour before. So one hour passed means he

has died one hour out of hundred years, the beginning of death. This

is called mrtyum. So we are thinking, “We are growing. We are living.”

This is all mugdha, bewildered. Where you are growing, you are living?

You are dying every moment.

So dying, death is going on. It is called mrtyu-loka. So long you

are in the material world, you are simply dying. That’s all. At the

end, when the balance of life, it becomes finished, we take, at that

time, it is mrtyu. But no, from the very birth there is mrtyu, always,

dying, dying, dying, dying. So mugdha. We are thinking, “We are living

and growing, young. We are getting strength.” But he does not know

that he is dying. Therefore it is explained, mugdhasya: “illusioned.”

He is taking death as life, mugdhasya. So one should not be so

bewildered, mugdhasya, and waste time by playing. Human life is not

meant for… Similarly, jaraya grasta-dehasya. Akalpasya. This is also

very important. Generally the old man does not know what is going to

happen. He is in the hands of the nature. Ask anybody, any big, big

man, old man, “What you are going to do?” I met some very important

old man in London, one… He was Lord…

Hamsaduta: Brockway. Lord Brockway?

Prabhupada: Brockway, I think. I asked him, “What you will do? What is

the end of your life?” “No, I shall die peacefully.” That’s all. He

does not know that what is going to happen. Because the Christians,

they do not believe in the next life; they think this life is

finished, everything is finished. But that is not the fact. Because

they cannot find out the soul. But that requires expert knowledge.

Just like gold mine, apparently it appears that it is a stone. But one

who is expert, soil expert, he can understand, “Here is gold.” Just

like when I was in South Africa, even in the city Johannesburg there

are so many gold mines within the city, gold mines. So ordinary man,

how it will… How he’ll know that there is gold in the soil? He must

be expert. To find out the soul within this body, it is not the

business of rascals and fools. He must be very expert, exactly like

the soil expert. And then, by analysis… This is called neti neti, na

iti. It is very easy. If you think, study your body, take this finger,

so you’ll say, “My finger.” Nobody will say, “I finger.” Just like we

sometimes examine little child, “What is this?” “Finger.” “So a

finger, which finger?” “My finger.” “Head?” “My head.” “Leg?” “My

leg.” Everything, “my, my.” And where is “I”? This is intelligence.

Everything, he is studying, “my,” and who is “I”? This very question

will establish the fact, dehino ‘smin yatha dehe, that “I” is within

this body. Therefore I am speaking, “my.”

So if one is expert in understanding, in analyzing this body, neti

neti–“This is blood. This is skin. This is this. This is this. This

is urine. This is stool”–then whole body we analyze. Then where is

that “I”? We cannot see. But why you cannot see? As soon as the “I” is

off, then whose stool, whose skin, whose bone? So in this way, if we

analyze, then we can understand that asmin dehe, within this body, the

“I” is there.

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entangled in three stages of pollution… The pollution is that

intelligence. The intelligence is polluted in three ways: jagriti,

svapna, and susupti. Jagriti means just like we are now awakened; we

are not sleeping. This is one stage. And another stage, at night when

you go to sleep, and you sleep with dream, that is another stage. And

another stage is susupti, so deeply, just like when a man is

intoxicated or chloroform during surgical operation, he does not

understand that “Surgical instruments are being applied on my body.”

He remains silent. This is another stage. So these three stages are

there for polluting our intelligence.

indriyani parany ahur

indriyebhyah param manah

manasas tu para buddhir

budhdhes tu ya para sah

The soul is beyond all these actions and reactions. But because this

living entity’s soul is covered by so many gross and subtle elements,

he is unnecessarily suffering, although the suffering is temporary.

All these sufferings are temporary. Nothing endures. But the suffering

is there. Therefore it has been advised by Rsabhadeva, na sadhu manye

yata atmanah ayam asan api klesada asa dehah. This whole world, people

are suffering on account of these different circumstantial position,

the three gunas and the mind being polluted by these three stages,

jagriti, svapna, susupti, and so many things–they are described,

twenty-four elements. On account of this packing of the soul, as it is

stated in the Bhagavad-gita, asmin dehe, dehi… Dehi asmin yatha

dehe: the real spirit soul is packed up within the body in so many

coverings. So our so-called pleasure and pains in this material world,

they’re artificial. They are not factual, on account of being packed

in so many material things. Therefore it is called moha, illusion. It

is not fact.

So if one is serious about spiritual advancement, then he should

not… First of all he must know “What is my position? How I am packed

up with all these twenty-four elements?” Of course, due to our habit

we are sometimes subjected to these pains and pleasure. Still, Krsna

says, “You do not become disturbed by these so-called artificial pains

and pleasures. Don’t be disturbed.” Sitosna-sukha-duhkha-dah.

Agamapayino ‘nityas tams titiksasva bharata. Matra-sparsas tu

kaunteya, sitosna-sukha-duhkha-dah. Just like we are covering because

it is cold, but actually as spirit soul, I am not affected. Asangayam

purusa. In the Vedas it is said that the soul is unaffected with this

material condition. I have several times given this example, that a

person has got a good car, and it is somehow or another broken, and he

becomes upset, because his car Although he knows that “I am not this

car,” but his thoughts being absorbed by the attraction of the car,

when the car is broken somehow or other he becomes almost unconscious.

So this is due to our attachment. So spiritual life means how to get

out of this attachment. This is spiritual life.

We are “No, what is the wrong if we are attached?” The wrong is that so long we remain

attached to these temporary illusory things, you’ll not be able to get

out of it. That is the whole program. Therefore Krsna advises,

matra-sparsas tu kaunteya. These pains and pleasure is due to this

skin; it is not real. But because you are attached to the skin and

bone, therefore you feel sometimes pain and pleasure. But that will

not endure. Better tolerate it. Tolerate. That is spiritual, tapasya.

That is called tapasya. When one can learn how to tolerate these

temporary so-called pains and pleasure, then he is advanced.

So if one is simply attached to these pains and pleasures of

material skin and bone, then how he can be free from the material

condition of life? Therefore Prahlada Maharaja is describing. It has

to be… Prahlada Maharaja’s proposal is that spiritual life should

begin from very childhood, kaumaram acaret prajno dharman bhagavatan.

Otherwise that attachment will continue, and you’ll never be able to

give up this attachment, and the spiritual…, material condition of

life, the accepting one body, bhutva bhutva praliyate, accepting one

body and accepting another body, this will continue. But the real

business of human life is to end this materialistic way of life, that

die and again take another…, janma, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi, to be

implicated in these four things. Then our suffering will never end.

This is spiritual life. Spiritual life means to end the sufferings of

material existence.

So in the human form of life the children should be trained up to

spiritual life. That is the duty of the father and mother. Grhesu

saptas. If one remains attached to family life, then grhesu saktasya

pramattas. Pramattas means to remain attached to this family life

means madness. Means madness. It is very difficult to understand this

madness, especially in this age, Kali-yuga, because we have very

little knowledge. Mandah sumanda-matayo, manda-bhagya upadrutah.

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Himself, He can say something new? No. He said to Arjuna, puratanam

yogam proktavan, that “I am speaking to you same old philosophy,

puratanam yogam, which I spoke to the sun-god.” We must stick to this,

that a spiritual understanding is never changed. Now the modern days,

we have to adjust things. No. That is not spiritual. There is no

question of modern and old. Nitya, that is nitya, eternal. We should

always remember that. The… Millions and millions of years ago, what

was spoken by Krsna to the sun-god, the same thing was spoken to

Arjuna. He said that “I am speaking to you the same old, puratanam

yogam, but because the parampara system is now broken, so I am making

again the parampara system through you, beginning from you

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to family life. I sometimes say that in the Western countries the

young boys, they come to Krsna consciousness, their only one great

asset is they are not family-wise attached. That is very good

qualification. Someway or other, they have become. Therefore their

attachment to Krsna becoming staunch. In India they have got organized

family attachment. They are not interested. They are after money now.

That I have experienced. Yes.

So family attachment is the greatest impediment in the matter of

advancing in Krsna consciousness, but if the whole family is Krsna

conscious, that is very nice. Just like Bhaktivinoda Thakura. He was a

family man, but all of the, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, his wife, his

children–and the best children is our Guru Maharaja, best child… So

he has sung by his experience, ye dina grhe bhajana dekhi grhete

goloka bhaya. If family-wise, everyone is engaged in Krsna’s service,

that is very nice. That is not ordinary family. That attachment is not

ordinary attachment. But generally people are attached materially.

That is condemned here. Sesam grhesu saktasya pramattasya apayati hi.

They are called pramatta. Everyone is thinking that “My family, my

wife, my children, my nation, my community, that is everything. What

is Krsna?” This is the greatest illusion imposed by maya. But nobody

will be able to give you protection.

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Take recent

history, within five hundred years. Rupa Goswami, the chief minister

of the government of Bengal, most opulent position: tyaktva turnam

asesa-mandala-pati-srenim. They became mendicant, voluntarily

accepting, tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tucchavat.

“What is this nonsense position, minister, opulent life? Kick it out.”

They are not fools. They are politicians. But why they “Kick it out.”

Then what they became? Bhutva dina-ganesakau karunaya

kaupina-kanthasritau. They become mendicant.

   So voluntarily accepting poverty, this is Indian civilization, this

is Vedic civilization. Not to increase material opulence but to

decrease. The more you decrease, you are civilized. And the Western

countries, if you decrease, if you instruct them that “Decrease these

nonsense activities. No more tire(?) civilization,” they’ll say “Oh,

this is primitive, primitive.” This tendency is present. But actually,

the primitive civilization… Not primitive; that is very sober

civilization, anartha. Instead of increasing unwanted necessities,

decrease it. That is Srimad-Bhagavatam. Anarthopasamam saksad

bhakti-yogam adhoksaje. Lokasya ajanatah vidvams cakre satvata

samhitam. This satvata samhitam bhagavata is there, simply to decrease

this unwanted so-called material civilization. It is very difficult to

understand, but our Krsna consciousness movement is for that purpose.

We are interested to construct a nice temple, but we are not

interested to construct a very big skyscraper building for people’s

generally No. We should live very humbly. But for Krsna we can In

India you’ll find there are so many valuable temples which cannot be

constructed at the present moment. You will see in this Vrndavana that

the broken Govindaji’s temple, it is not possible to construct such

costly temples at the present moment. Even by spending crores of

rupees you cannot construct. But one who has money, they used to do

that. It should be engaged for Krsna’s comfort. This is bhakti

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Sneha-pasair. This sneha-pasa, sneha is there. Sneha means

affection. Everyone got affection. The cats and dogs they have got

also affection. But the affection is wrongly placed. We are

affectionate to the skin, to this body. So this is wrong affection.

Real affection is to the soul. That we do not know, we have no

information. We are loving our child, that is very good, but not the

soul, but the body. If someway or other the child is dead or my father

is dead, we cry, “Father has gone.” Why father has gone away? The body

which you loved, that is lying there. So we do not know whom to love.

So if we love actually, let us love the soul. How the soul… Love…,

to love means for benefit. That is real love. I love you for your

benefit; you love me for my benefit. If I so-called love you for my

benefit, that is lust. So in this material world there cannot be love.

It is not possible. Because everyone loves, so-called love. He loves

his sense gratification. A young boy loves a young woman for his sense

gratification, not for her sense gratification. Similarly she also. So

in this material, this cheating is going on. I want to satisfy my

lusty desires, but it is going on in the name of love. There cannot be

any love in this material world. Because love is between spirit and

spirit. But if we try to love the Supreme Spirit, Krsna, then we shall

understand how our love can be spread in the spiritual world.

When we come to the spiritual platform, then actual love begins.

Mad-bhaktim labhate param. That love begins… If we can love Krsna,

then, through Krsna’s love, we can expand our love for everyone. Yatha

taror mula-nisecanena trpyanti tat-skandha-bhujopasakhah. Just like

watering the root of the tree, the energy is expanded to the limbs, to

the flowers, to the branches, similarly, if we want to love…

Everyone… Just like we are coming, some patriot. Nobody loves

nobody; that is all professional business. If we actually love Krsna,

then we can expand our love: patriotism, socialism, this “ism,”

that… Just like we are trying to spread this Krsna consciousness

movement all over the world because on account of love.

This is the only meaning. If we become pure devotee of Krsna, then my

love will be extended to everyone. Not only my society, but to

everyone. It is not that “This is my children, that is other’s

children.” All children. All human being. Not my countrymen–all other

countrymen. Not only human beings, but even animals also. That is

sneha. It is not that “I am safe, and let the animals be killed in the

slaughterhouse.” No, that is not love. Love means for everyone. Samah

sarvesu bhutesu. Equality to all living entities. That is real love.

That is real concern, Krsna consciousness. A lover of Krsna will

hesitate to kill even one ant. You know the story, Mrgrari. That is

love. Because one has got… Just like this child. If I like I can

kill him, there is no difficulty. But does it mean that I shall kill

him? No. Similarly, a small ant, anyone can kill. No. Here is a living

entity, part and parcel of Krsna. Samah sarvesu–he should not be

unnecessarily killed. We should be careful, not that “Trample over the

ants and let them be killed.” No, everything should be carefully done.

Of course, we cannot stop this, but we should be careful, and if it is

done, then if we remain Krsna conscious, Krsna will excuse. Yajnarthe

karmano ‘nyatra. Therefore the business should be, if we walk at all,

we shall walk for Krsna. Then if some ant is killed–not knowingly,

unknowingly–then we are untouched by these sinful activities.

Otherwise, we are immediately noted down, “Here is a man, he has

killed, he has…” The nature’s law is so minute. Every minute, the

account is there. But if you remain in the business of Krsna

consciousness, then there is excuse. Otherwise, everyone is become

obliged. If I take from you one cent, I have to pay you with four

cents, with interest, compound interest. This is the law of karma. We

are… Just like taking money from others. Unless we spend it for

Krsna, then we shall be obliged to return.

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more entangled in these affairs, then our real business will be lost.

Our real business is how to get out of this entanglement, not to be

more and more, I mean to say, implicated in this entanglement. That

should be the point of view: to make the best use of a bad bargain.

That should be the philosophy of life. We are put into this material

existential condition, and we have to get out. But at the same time,

so far, so long this material body is there, we have to maintain it

also. Just like… The example is very nice. We can cite that you have

to go to some place, and you have got a car. You have to take care of

the car so far it can carry you to your destination, not that you

simply take care of your car and you forget your destination and your

own body. This is not your business. Similarly, we have to carry on

our business.

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Professor Marshall, he has given reason for economic development: the family

affection. Unless one has got family affection, he is not interested

in money. So therefore I sometimes say that these hippies, they are

little advanced because they have no affection for family and they

have no affection for money also. This is… In the other way, these

are good qualification: no interest, no affection. Everyone is working

on account of family affection, sneha-pasair. He has got wife and

children, and he requires money to make the family happy. So…, and

for maintaining the family, he requires money. Ato grhesu

sutapta-vittair janasya moho ‘yam.

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Vedasraya nastikya-vada. All these Mayavadi sannyasis, they are very

learned, but they’ll never accept that God has form. They say it is

kalpana, it is imagination. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu has designated them

very, very dangerous, these Mayavadis. He has therefore strictly

forbidden, mayavadi-bhasya sunile haya sarva-nasa: If you hear this

Mayavadi speaking, then your future is doomed. You are finished.

Because as soon as you have become infected with the Mayavada

philosophy, it will take millions of years to come to the platform of

devotional service. It is so dangerous. Mayavadi-bhasya sunile haya

sarva-nasa. Sarva-nasa means everything is finished when you become

godless, or you think yourself as you are God. The Mayavadis do that.

They accept God, Krsna, as God, but Krsna’s body is maya. He has

assumed a form, with a body which is created by maya, just like our

body is created by maya.

760626SB.NV                    Lectures                  231722/530501

So nidrahara, this is spiritual life. This is called tapasya. Tapo

divyam putraka yena suddhyed sattvam. Spiritual life means purifying

our existence. Unless we purify our existence, if we keep ourselves in

the material condition, then we have to accept birth and death

repeatedly. The human life is the opportunity that we can purify our

existence. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam. We have to

become purified. Nirmalam means completely purified. That is the

mission of human life. Tapo divyam, purify. Why purification required?

Because we are after happiness. That is our nature. Anandamayo

‘bhyasat. Everyone, we want happiness. But we are so blind that

happiness in the material world is faced with so many other troubles.

Just like I want to be happy, I am sitting peacefully, the mosquito

will come and disturb me. The bugs will come, disturb me. The dogs

will come, disturb me. And so many other… There will be some

earthquake will disturb me, there will be some storm will disturb me.

There will be some fever, disturb me. Some calamity will disturb me.

So because all these disturbances are, this is nature’s daivi hy esa

guna-mayi mama maya duratyaya. That maya is always ready to disturb

1. Because to remind us that “You want to be happy in this material

world, that is not possible. I shall disturb you always, in this way

or that way.” That we haven’t got eyes to see, that we are being

disturbed. But if we want undisturbed happiness then we have to purify

our existence. That is wanted. It is for our interest. To become Krsna

conscious means that is our interest. Krsna doesn’t want that you

become… Krsna wants, but if you do not become Krsna conscious, He

has nothing to lose. But if we do not become Krsna conscious, it is,

our chance is lost. This is the problem.

760627SB.NV                    Lectures                  231739/530501

So here the verse is given, yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi

tuccham kanduyanena karayor iva duhkha-duhkham. The real purpose of

life is how to become detached from this material life. That is

perfection. People are being educated how to become attached. That is

the difference between Krsna consciousness and so-called human

civilization. But the thing can be made easy if we attach our mind to

Krsna. Just like we are actually doing. It is not that we are all

liberated persons. We have got so many attachments to family, wife,

country. But along with it, if we try to increase our attachment for

Krsna, automatically there will be detachment. Automatically. Without

endeavoring separately. Vasudeve bhagavati bhakti-yogah prayojitah.

…   So this is bhakti-marga. If we follow these principles of

bhakti-marga we do not require to endeavor separately how to become

detached. The detachment automatically follows. Vasudeve bhagavati

bhakti-yogah prayojitah janayati asu vairagyam. Vairagyam means

detachment. The bhakti-yoga is known also as vairagya. Vairagya.

Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya wrote verses about this vairagya.

vairagya-vidya-nija-bhakti-yoga-

siksartham ekah purusah puranah

sri-krsna-caitanya-sarira-dhari

krpambudhir yas tam aham prapadye

Here is Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu who is Krsna Himself. He has

come to teach us vairagya-vidya. It is little difficult. It is very

difficult for ordinary persons to understand this vairagya-vidya.

Their business is how to increase attachment for this body, and Krsna

consciousness movement is how to increase detachment for this material

life. Therefore it is called vairagya-vidya. Vairagya-vidya can be

very easily achieved, just like it is recommended, vasudeve bhagavati

bhakti-yogah prayojitah janayati asu vairagyam, very soon, very soon.

Janayati asu vairagyam jnanam ca.

The real business is how to increase our love, proportionatal love for

Krsna. Then everything, proportionately, will come, and then our life

Will be successful. Thank you very much.

760628SB.NV                    Lectures                  231766/530501

So in the modern age, advancement of material civilization, they

also do not care for these siddhis, material siddhis. Just like

laghima. Laghima-siddhi, the yogis, they become so light that they can

float in the air. So nowadays you have got airplane. The yogi can

float alone in the air. Now five hundred passengers, they can float in

the air. So there is no need of such yoga, yoga-siddhi. The science,

the material science of craftsmanship, mechanical, they have done it.

Or formerly these things were very magical. Still, the so-called

yogis, they are trying to achieve such perfection. Sometimes they can

float in the air, they can walk on the water, they can get anything

they desire, prapti. Prapti, in my childhood there was my teacher. He

said that he had his guru, a yogi. So he told me that his spiritual

master, yogi, he inquired from his disciple, “What do you want to

eat?” So he said that “We want to eat some pomegranate from Kabul.” So

he said, “Yes, you can get it. Go into the room and you’ll find.” So

they found a bunch of pomegranate just fresh taken from the tree. This

is called prapti. The yogis, they can get all these facilities.

760630SB.NV                    Lectures                  231791/530501

Prabhupada: We have seen practically in India. During the partition

days, when the Britishers left India, they gave a parting kick by

dividing Pakistan and India. So I have seen in my own eyes there was

fighting between the Hindus and Muslims for at least one week in

Calcutta, and heaps of dead bodies there were. So the fighting was

between Hindu and Muslim, but when they died the body is piled up and

it was taken for burning or to throw away. So the land remained there

and these people fighting between themselves, that “This is mine, this

is mine,” they finished their life. The land remained where it was

there.

670310SB.SF                    Lectures                  231929/530501

not this body, you are this consciousness. And this consciousness,

what is that consciousness? It is the effulgence of the soul.

Consciousness is also not you are. It is just like this lamp has got

some effulgence and illumination. Similarly, the soul has got

illumination. That illumination is this consciousness. So this

illumination, this consciousness is also limited. Your consciousness,

my consciousness, they are limited. You cannot perceive or understand

what I am thinking; I cannot perceive or understand what you are

thinking.

670310SB.SF                    Lectures                  231947/530501

Guest (2): Does any physical change take place in your body when you

become Krsna conscious?

Prabhupada: Yes. There are so many physical changes. We have seen it

practically. Yes. Some of our students, so long he was here, he was so

nice. He was so glowing. And as soon as he has left, he has become

just like damn rascal. Yes. We are experiencing practically. There are

so many instances. Because my face is the index of mind, so similarly,

what is going on within you, that will be reflected. That will be

reflected. Caitanya Mahaprabhu was asked that “How can I

understand…?” One of His disciples inquired from Caitanya

Mahaprabhu, “How can I understand that a man is in Krsna

consciousness?” He immediately replied, “If you see a man and at once

you remember Krsna, you must know that he is in Krsna consciousness.”

It is such a nice thing. By seeing the face, by seeing the appearance

of a person, if you remember Krsna, you should know that “This man is

in Krsna consciousness.” So there is change of physical feature also.

670313SB.SF                    Lectures                  231972/530501

We are executing the will of Krsna. Krsna says that “Anyone who

takes up this responsibility of spreading Krsna consciousness, or God

consciousness, he is very dear to Me.” Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that

amara ajnaya guru hana tara’ sarva desa. Caitanya Mahaprabhu is also

Krsna in the form of devotee. He said that “By My order, you become a

spiritual master.” “Oh, I have to become a spiritual master? What I

have to do? Oh, I have no qualification.” “Oh, you don’t require any

qualification.” “Then what is to do?” Yare dekha tare kaha

‘krsna’-upadesa: “Whomever you meet, you just try to give him some

instruction of Krsna.” This is Krsna consciousness. If you cannot do,

if you cannot speak on Bhagavad-gita or Bhagavata or Bible or

Koran–they’re all books of knowledge, of Krsna consciousness–you can

simply say, “My dear friend, I’ve got one request to you.” “What is

that?” “Oh, please chant Hare Krsna. That’s all. Please chant Hare

Krsna.” Is it very difficult? But this is very difficult also, because

people will take it very lightly: “Oh, what is there, Hare Krsna?”

because he does not know that the Hare Krsna has so much potency that

one day you can catch the Supreme Personality of Godhead within your

grip. It is got so potency, so much..

…670313SB.SF                    Lectures                  231976/530501

things. Servant we are, because constitutionally I am servant. And

because I am not servant of God or servant of Krsna, that I have

become servant of my dog. In the morning I go with my dog. The dog

says, “Yes, stand up here.” “Yes, I am standing.” “Let me pass my

stool.” “Yes, my dear sir. It is very nice.” So I am servant. But I

have no shame that I have become servant of dog and I’m refuse to (be)

servant of God. Such a foolish we are. You see? So Prahlada Maharaja

says, “Just change this kindly. Don’t become any more servant of…”

Servant of dog means servant of your senses. That’s all. We are here

all servant of senses. That’s all. A swami means master of the senses.

“Oh, sense wants? Oh, my tongue wants immediately to smoke? There is

some sensation. Oh, I must say, ‘No. There is no smoking. Stop.’ ”

Then you are master. And if you have become servant, “Oh, I want. Will

you kindly give me a cigarette?” Because I am servant of cigarette. So

you have to train yourself to become swami, master of your senses.

Then everything is all right. Don’t be servant of your senses. Servant

you are. Just change your servitorship. Instead of becoming servant of

senses, just become the servant of the master of the senses. The

master of senses is Krsna. Therefore He is called Hrsikesa. And Krsna

consciousness means hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate.

670320SB.SF                    Lectures                  232094/530501

In this material world we are making so many plans for permanent

settlement, but unfortunately, we are meeting with just the opposite

result. That is in our experience. There is very nice song sung by a

Vaisnava poet. He says, sukhere lagiya e baro bhaginu anale puria

ghare (?). “I constructed this house for living happily.

Unfortunately, it was set in fire, so everything is finished.” That is

going on. In the material world we are making so many plans for living

very comfortably, peacefully, eternally. But that is not possible.

People do not understand it. They are seeing, experiencing from

sastra, from scripture we are getting instruction, that nothing is

imperishable. Everything is perishable in the material world, and we

are actually seeing also that perishable agents are always ready. Just

like the fire. In New York City, at least, within twenty-four hours,

there are at least ten or fifteen places where fire is going on. And

your fire brigade is running on just trying to protect you from fire.

The house regulation is all for fire, “How we are protected from

fire.” Then it will be allowed, certificate of occupation, “You can

live.” In other words, that fire is always ready to vanish everything,

but artificially, somehow or other, we are trying to protect ourself

from fire.

670322SB.SF                    Lectures                  232112/530501

Last night in the television, one boy was asking me, “Swamiji, you

are all after spiritualism. Why you are using this clay as tilaka and

so many things you are using which is matter?” So I explained to

him… Perhaps you have known. Actually, there is no matter, actually,

in this sense, because everything is emanating from the Supreme

Spirit. Everything is emanating… Janmady asya yatah. What is the

Absolute Truth? The Absolute Truth is that from which everything is

emanating–the source, the fountainhead, the fountainhead of

everything. So whatever we see… Now, of course, we are in condition,

material condition. We see everything material. But even this material

energy is also spiritual because it is coming from the spirit, the

Supreme Spirit. Suppose anything comes from the fire, it is hot. Fire,

anything coming from… Anything you take. You are cooking daily, and

as soon as you cook something it becomes very hot, and you take it

from… It is hot. You cannot touch it. So by nature, everything is

hot or everything is spirit because it is coming from the spirit, by

nature. Just like sunshine. Sunshine has got all the qualities of the

sun. Sunshine has got temperature. Sunshine has got illuminating power

as the original sun has got. Similarly, although the whole creation,

whole manifestation, is the display of the energy of the Supreme Lord,

they are not different in quality. In quality there is no difference.

Just like the sunshine and the sun. It may be the temperature in the

sun planet is very great. That’s all right. But you cannot say that

sun is hot, but the sunshine is cold. No. That cannot be. That cannot

1. It may be the degree of temperature lesser, but there is

temperature. That is the sign that it is coming, emanating from

sunshine. Similarly, in the Bhagavad-gita you’ll find that this whole

manifestation, there are different kinds of energy.

That is confirmed in the Vedas, Vedic literature, Upanisad also:

parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate. The energy of the Lord are

differently manifested. Just like this light. Take the same example,

fire. Fire is placed in one place, but it is manifesting in different

way. It is illuminating, it is distributing its heat from one place.

Similarly, the Supreme Lord, He may be far, far away. He’s not far,

far away, because He is present by His energy. Just like sunshine. Sun

is far, far away from us, but he is present just before us by his

shining. We can understand what is sun. Similarly, if you study the

energy of the Supreme Lord, then you are in conscious, or Krsna

consciousness. So if you engage yourself in the energy of Krsna, then

you become Krsna conscious. And as soon as you become Krsna conscious,

you become nonseparated. You become nonseparated from Him. Just like

qualitatively the sunshine and the sun is hot, warm, similarly, you

are also the same spiritual energy, or this whole world is spiritual

energy, nothing but… There is nothing but spiritual… Sarvam khalv

idam brahma. Everything is Brahman. But how to realize it? If

everything is Brahman, then why we are separating, “This is material,

this is spiritual”? This is maya. This is called maya. Maya means

illusion or forgetfulness. How it happens? It happens just like the

sunshine is covered by cloud. Sunshine is covered by cloud–not all

the sunshine. An insignificant part of the sunshine is sometimes

covered by the cloud. And when it is covered by the cloud, there are

so many inconveniences. Just like you say in New York when you find a

sunshine in the sky, you say, “Oh, today is very nice.” Why nice?

Because the pure sky is open. Therefore it is very nice. And so long

it is over, covered by cloud, you don’t find so happy. Similarly, if

you can, I mean to say, drive away the cloud of ignorance, then you

actually becoming Krsna consciousness. Cloud of ignorance. And what is

that cloud of ignorance? The cloud of ignorance is that “I am the

enjoyer.” The first beginning of cloud of ignorance… (end)