SB classes Vol #8– part two

June 12, 2015 in Damaghosa Dasa by Riya

Sb class vol 8 part 2

Hare Krnsa to all


All glories to Prabhupada

Below we give a few tidbits of the nectar contained with in this file of

SB classes given by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhudpada

  1. Before leaving your body, you must be self realized to go back home.
  1. Without vairagya or renunciation there is no happiness in this world
  1. One brahmana blessed Mahaprabhu-you will never be happy in household life
  1. Real guru must be in Krsnas confidence and be able to draw from the ocean of Mercy
  1. Bhakti and Karma looks the same-here is the difference
  1. Explanation of difference in time between earth and heavenly planets
  1. Inter- planetary Eagles that eat elephants
  1. A devotee in Goloka can become a flower and then change into human form
  1. And much more……

761128SB.VRN                   Lectures                  225743/530501

But here Krsna as Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Krsna as

Rsabhadeva, Krsna as Krsna Himself, They are teaching us how to become

pure devotee, because sva kalevaram jihasur atmanah. Before leaving

your, this body, you must be self-realized. That is the aim of life.

Bahunam janmanam ante. We have got this life, human form of life, and

how to utilize this human form of life? How to achieve the

vairagya-vidya? This is vairagya-vidya, no more interest in material

things. That is vairagya-vidya. Even to the body. That is…

Rsabhadeva is teaching us. This is vairagya-vidya. Bhakti-yoga means

vairagya. Caitanya Mahaprabhu also has spoken the same thing,

niskincanasya bhagavad bhajanonmukhasya. Niskincanasya. If you

actually want to become a pure devotee, then you have to make this

material way of life completely zero. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Then it

will be possible. If you have still a pinch of attraction for material

life, then it will be stopped, your promotion to the other, spiritual

world. Simply attachment to Krsna, that will make you advanced.

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So anyone who has accepted this material world as very

comfortable… It is not comfortable; it is simply suffering. Krsna

says, duhkhalayam asasvatam. And still, if we want to be happy in this

material world, bahir-artha-maninah. These fools, they are trying to

be happy within this material world. Material means external energy.

Bahir-artha-maninah. Na te viduh svartha gatim hi visnum durasaya.

This is durasaya, the hope which will never be fulfilled. But this we

do not… Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan. So unless there is

vairagya, there is no question of happiness. But we cannot attain

vairagya immediately; therefore the vidhi-marga, vidhi-marga-bhakti,

to rise early in the morning, to attend mangala arati, to offer Deity

flowers, fruits, and in this way we shall be engaged twenty-four

hours. Then vairagya-vidya will gradually develop. Anarthopasamam

saksad bhakti-yogam adhoksaje. Then the anartha… This material life

is simply anartha, has no meaning, because we are creating another

life. Without any spiritual knowledge, if we simply give ourself to

the action and reaction of material nature, then we are making

progress on the path of mrtyu- samsara vartmani. And if we attain

Krsna, then mam upetya kaunteya duhkhalayam asasvatam, napnuvanti. The

two ways.

761128SB.VRN                   Lectures                  225748/530501

Caitanya Mahaprabhu, to receive some blessings from the brahmanas, when He was

boy He was voluntarily trying to give some service to the brahmanas

who were engaged in bathing in the Ganges. He’ll clear the place

because the brahmana, after taking bath in the Ganges, would sit down,

would chant mantra. So He’ll cleanse and He’ll wash the cloth, and

in… Voluntarily He was doing that, service. So one brahmana blessed

Him, “My dear boy, You’ll be very happy in your family life. You’ll

have good wife, very opulent position.” And Caitanya Mahaprabhu was

blocking the ears. The brahmana said, “What is this?” “No, this is not

blessing, sir.” “Oh, it is not blessing? Then You’ll never be happy in

Your family life.” “Yes, this is the…” (laughter) “This is all

right.” So therefore He took sannyasa. Arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam.

Similarly, Lord Ramacandra, arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam. These are

the characteristic of the Personality of Godhead. Try to follow Them,

not imitate, but follow them.

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Similarly, the mercy cloud, karunya, karuna,

ghanaghanatvam… So just like ordinary cloud is made possible by

evaporating water from the sea, similarly, Krsna has the sea of mercy,

karunayamaya, karuna-sagara. Krsna’s another name is Karuna-sagara. So

as the air evaporate or the heat evaporate from the sea, and the cloud

is formed in the sky, similarly, one who has connection or the power

to evaporate the mercy sea of Krsna, he can extinguish the samsara

davanala. And that is guru. Guru is the cloud or he is the agent of

drying water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna and turn it into a mercy

cloud and pour water on the samsara davanala, and then it is

extinguished. Samsara davanala-lidha-loka-tranaya

karunya-ghanaghanatvam, praptasya kalyana.

Therefore guru must be authorized person, not that

bhumi-phala-guru(?). No. “I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru

unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of

mercy of Krsna. That is guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary

person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krsna.

Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung, krsna se tomara, krsna dite para:

“Vaisnava Thakura, Krsna is your property. If you like, you can give.”

Vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau. You cannot get Krsna by

studying Vedas. That is not possible. There is Krsna in the Vedas, but

you cannot pick up. It is not possible. But if you go to the Krsna’s

favorite person… Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Krsna’s very

dear servant, confidential servant, is guru. Nobody can become guru

unless he is in confidence of Krsna. Na ca tasmad manusyesu kascid me

priya-krttamah. These things are there. Not that by magic one can

become guru. No. .

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cannot be changed. God’s word cannot be changed. Then what will be the

difference between God and ourself? He is always perfect. He is always

perfect. What He said forty millions of years ago, what He said five

thousand years ago, that is also correct up to date. That is sastra.

Not that “So many years have passed and it has become old. Now let us

reform it and put it into new way.” No. You can put the same thing in

a new way, but you cannot change the principle. Sadhu sastra

guru-vakya, tinete kariya aikya. Sastra is never changed. And the

sadhu… Sadhu means who follows the sastras. He is sadhu. He also

does not change. Sadhu, sastra. And guru? Guru means who follows the

sastra and sadhu. So there are three, the same. A guru will not

change, that “It was spoken five thousand years ago. That is not

applicable now. Now I am giving you something new, jugglery.” He is

useless. Sadhu sastra guru-vakya tinete kariya aikya. Yah

sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama karatah, na siddhim avapnoti. These

things are there.

761228SB.VRN                   Lectures                  225791/530501

Sometimes bhakti is observed as similar to the activities of the

karmis, but there is difference. One is bhakti, one is going back to

home, back to Godhead; and the other is going forward to the hellish

condition of life by the same activities. This is the technique. How

it is possible? It is possible. By practical example, it is said in

the sastras… Just like if you take more quantity of milk

preparation, you get diarrhea. But the same milk preparation, yogurt,

is there. It will stop diarrhea. Both of them are milk preparation.

One has created the disease diarrhea, and another is stopping

diarrhea. So why? Cikirsitam. One is by medical process and the other

is without any medical process. The medical process is to satisfy

Krsna. Here the building is being constructed to satisfy Krsna. To

satisfy Krsna. And in other places the building is constructed to

satisfy senses. This is the difference, material and spiritual.

Material means to satisfy one’s senses. Nunam pramattah kurute

vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti. Karma means they are working very

hard like dogs and hogs, but the purpose is indriya-priti. Nunam

pramattah: they are mad. They should not… And why mad? Because the

karma means you are creating another body. And as soon as there is

another body, dehantara-praptir, so long you have got this material

body, you’ll suffer. That is the law of nature. Karmanu bandhah. Yavan

priti mayi deve… tavat karmanu bandhanah. The karmanu-bandha will

continue. Therefore in the sastra it is recommended, yajnarthe karma

anyatra karma-bandhanah. Don’t act anything except for the

satisfaction of Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. If you do

anything for your sense gratification, that means you are being bound

up by the laws of karma. Laws of karma, it is very strict according to

the modes of activities. Purusah prakrti-stho hi bhunkte karma-jan


761229SB.BOM                   Lectures                  225804/530501

But at the present moment people are so

engrossed with material affairs that they are not interested even to

hear or to talk about Krsna consciousness. That is not a very good

sign. It is the feverish condition of durbhiksa. That is mentioned in

the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that people in general, when they come to the

point of suffering from natural law, then they will revive their

nitya-siddha krsna-bhakti. So therefore, as I was speaking in this

morning, we have to elevate the human civilization from a platform

which is on equal level with hog civilization. We should very

carefully study and try to know whether the advancement of

civilization which we have accepted is genuine. No. It is not genuine.

It is misleading. Our aim of life is not to get a comfortable life for

few years. Actually, there is no comfortable life. Still, we consider

and forget our real business, self-realization. Apasyatam atma-tattvam

grhesu grha-medhinam.

750520SB.MEL                   Lectures                  225821/530501

trees and plants, not moving. Then they move–flies, grasshoppers. And

they turn into birds again, very freely flying. And there are many,

many big birds in the sky, eagles. Some of the eagles, you have got

experience. There are monkey-eating eagles. They capture the monkey.

And there are eagles elephant-eating. (laughter) We get all this

information. Elephant, they will capture elephant and take it away.

(laughter) Just imagine. It is no joking. This is a fact.

So there are so many birds, eagle birds, they fly, and they go from

one planet to another. They are resting… Just like a bird you see,

they fly from one tree to another tree. So their resting place is one

planet to another. Just see. You are trying to go to the moon planet

bogusly. I’ll say bogusly because you could not go there. The moon

planet is far away from the sun planet. So it is not possible to go

750520SB.MEL                   Lectures                  225832/530501

blood and urines and stool and kapha and mucus and so many things, if

we consider this body as “I am, the soul,” do you mean to say that is

very good knowledge? No. That is go-kharah. Go-kharah means animal. Go

means cow and kharah means ass. So these animal think like that, “I am

this body.” And if a man thinks like that, he is no better than the

animal. That is not possible. Do you mean to say by combination of

this blood, flesh, bones, urine, and stool and so many other things,

you can, by combination, make a person like big scientist,

philosopher, mathematician, by combination of these ingredients? Is it

possible? Then there are much quantity of blood and flesh and this in

the slaughterhouse. You bring and mix with them stool and urine and

make a Professor Einstein. (laughter) You are advanced scientist. You

bring this ingredient and make a very intelligent man. So this is all

foolishness. Sa eva go-kharah. Anyone who thinks this body as the

self, then he is in the animal kingdom. One, if anyone wants spiritual

knowledge, he first of all know what is spirit, then spiritual

knowledge. If you have no idea of spirit, what is the value of your

spiritual knowledge? There is no value. Sa eva go-kharah.

So this Krsna consciousness movement is giving that enlightenment,

that you are not this body.

750520SB.MEL                   Lectures                  225840/530501

If you want to go to the higher planetary system where the demigods

live, you can go there. Therefore the karmis, by performing Vedic

ritualistic ceremonies, they want elevation to the higher planetary

system where the life, prolongation of life is very, very big. As we

have got day and night, in the higher planetary system the waxing and

waning moon, then when the moon is present there and the sky is in

light, that is the day of the higher planetary system. And when the

moon is dark, that is the night. That means our fifteen days, in the

higher planetary system–twelve hours. Just imagine their year. And

such ten thousands of years you can live if you can go to the moon

planet. The day and night, fifteen days, your fifteen days, is equal

to their one day. No, twelve hours. That means your one month is their

one day. Now calculate one day, then thirty days, one month. Then

twelve months equal to one year. Such ten thousands of years. Just

imagine. You can go there and live like that, yanti deva-vrata devan,

if you like. But that is not eternal life. After that long period, you

have to die. So Krsna says

janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. You are trying to avoid

all kinds of miserable condition, but your real miserable condition is

your birth, death, old age, and disease. Try to avoid it. That is

perfection. That is spiritual life.

750520SB.MEL                   Lectures                  225847/530501

Devotee (1): Srila Prabhupada, you were saying that because the body

has arms and legs, then the coat has a similar shape. Then does the

spirit soul that’s within our body have arms and legs like that?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Devotee (1): Would the spirit soul that is within, say, a cow’s body,

is in a different shape?

Prabhupada: Yes. It has got also legs. But the shape has taken

according to his desire. Every animal has got these four things. Just

like bird, it has got two wings, two legs. The animal has got four

legs. And the man has got two hands, two legs. So the same parts of

the body, they are appearing in a different type. But the four limbs

of the body are there. Hm?

Devotee (2): Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?

Madhudvisa: The question is that whether the eternal form of the

spirit soul is a human form or is it…

Prabhupada: Yes, human form. God is also human form. “Man is made

after the shape of God.” I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So

God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs.

Hari-sauri: How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and

flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?

Prabhupada: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your

body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not

the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are

not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of

the soul.

Hari-sauri: They are covered in the spiritual world?

Madhudvisa: He is asking if they were actually covered in the

spiritual world as well.

Prabhupada: Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some

devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I

want that “As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna,”

he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his…, from flower

to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If

some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as

calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father,

as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yatha mam prapadyante

tams tathaiva bhajamy aham. That is Krsna’s all-powerfulness,

spiritual life.

750521SB.MEL                   Lectures                  225929/530501

Prabhupada: Initiation is the third stage. First stage is that… Just

like you have come. This is called sraddha, faith, little faith, not

full faith. Then you have to increase this faith by association of

devotee. That is required. And when the faith is increased, then the

question of initiation. Initiation should not be immediately offered.

That will be misused. Therefore when we initiate, we inquire from the

head of the temple, “How long he is coming? What is his behavior?” If

he certifies that “Yes, he is doing nice,” then we initiate. Our

initiation is not so cheap, “You come and be initiated.” No, we do not

do that. We must test you first of all. Then we initiate.

Madhudvisa: His question was that can you take initiation by accepting

the spiritual master in your heart without actually taking…

Prabhupada: These are bogus proposition. It has no meaning. (laughter)

It has no meaning. If you think within yourself, “I am eating,” will

you be satisfied? You starve and simply think, “I have eaten

everything.” (laughter) Is that very practical proposal? You must eat.

We don’t say all these bogus proposition. All right. Thank you very

much. (end)

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the same thing, as cats and dogs are trying. The cats and dogs, they

are also trying to find out where it is, food, where sleeping comfort,

where sex life, and where defense. If the human form of life is also

utilized for this purpose, pravrtti-marga, then it is, as I was

talking in the park, it is just like using sandalwood for burning

fuel. There is distinction even in wood. There are so many jungle

wood, we can use it for cooking. But if the sandalwood, which is so

valuable, if we do not know what is the value of sandalwood, if we use

it for cooking and burning… Similarly, if we use this human form of

life exactly like the cats and dogs, simply for sense gratification,

then we are committing suicide.

The whole Vedic civilization means how to utilize this human form

of life for better purposes. Even modern scientific point of view. Not

scientific, but they say. Accepting their version… Just like

Darwin’s theory: by evolution you come to the human form of life.

what is after this form? Then they have no information. …

Accepting that from monkey one becomes a human being, so what next life? If

the evolution is… That is also accepted in the Padma Purana,

8,400,000 species, forms of life, and then we come to this human form

of life. What is next? That is the question. But they have no

knowledge. They have no sense. They cannot explain what is next. And

there is next life. If by evolutionary process through the channel of

so many species of life, 900,000 aquatics. Jalaja nava-laksani

sthavara laksa… Two millions trees and plants, then 1100,000

insects, and one million species of birds, and then 33,000,000 species

of animals, four-legged animals, pasu. And then we get this human form

of life, especially civilized form of life. Then what is next? That

question nobody inquires, neither there is answer by the so-called

modern scientist, that what is next.

But the answer is there. Answer is there in the Vedic literature

that there is higher planetary system.

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catus-padam. The animals which has no leg–that means which cannot

move… The plants, the grass, the trees, they cannot move. They have

got leg, but they cannot move. Their legs are made for eating. As your

mouth is made for eating, the trees… Therefore they are called

pada-pa. They drink water by the leg. This is God’s creation. You

cannot think that how it is possible to drink water by the leg, but it

is God’s creation. You see. You pour water on the leg of the tree; it

becomes very luxuriant, healthy. So different. And so far God is

concerned, He can eat with legs; He can see with hands; He can eat

with eyes. That is God. That is God. Angani yasya

sakalendriya-vrttimanti pasyanti panti kalayanti ciram jaganti.

Angani, that is transcendental. He is not under any rule. He is not

under any rule. If you say, “Why Krsna is eating by the eyes?” yes,

that is Krsna. That is Krsna. If you offer something, Krsna, simply by

seeing, He is eating. That is Krsna. And again if you say, “If He is

eating, why the plate is full?” that is Krsna. Purnasya purnam adaya

purnam evavasisyate. Krsna is not a hungry man like me, that “If you

give Me something, I will eat everything, finished.” No. Krsna can

take the whole plate; still it will remain the whole plate, for giving


So try to understand Krsna in this way. And if you actually

understand Krsna, you are liberated immediately. Janma karma ca divyam

me yo janati tattvatah. How Krsna eats, how Krsna thinks, how Krsna

works, if you understand all these things, then immediately you become

liberated. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti. You immediately

become. The only thing is we are rotting in this material world

because we do not know Krsna. That is the… You’ll not be admitted in

the spiritual kingdom unless you know Krsna, what He is. And as soon

as you understand Krsna, you are fit–

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Madhudvisa: We have been here for many lifetimes performing sinful

activities. So is it possible to counteract all those sinful

activities in one lifetime, or does it require many…?

Prabhupada: One minute. That is Krsna consciousness movement. One

minute. You are not reading Bhagavad-gita? What Krsna says?

Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja, aham tvam

sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami: “You surrender unto Me. Give up your all

business. I will give you relief from all sinful reaction

immediately.” So it requires one minute. “My dear Krsna, I was

forgotten. Now I understand. I fully surrender unto you.” Then you

become immediately free from all sinful reactions. Without any

reservation, without any politics, if you fully surrender, Krsna is

assuring, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah. He

reassures, “Don’t worry whether I will be able to give you relief from

all reaction.” Ma sucah. “Finished, guaranteed. You do this.” So how

much time it requires to surrender to Krsna? Immediately you can do

that. Surrender means you surrender and work as Krsna says. That is

surrender. What Krsna says to do? Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji

mam namaskuru. Four things: “You always think of Me, and you become My

devotee, you worship Me, and offer your respect, full obeisances unto

Me.” You do these four things? That is full surrender. Mam evaisyasi

asamsaya: “Then you come to Me without any doubt.” Everything is

there. Krsna has given everything fully. If you accept it, then life

is very simple. There is no difficulty. Yes?

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We understand that we are trying to be happy.

Actually, this material world, there is no happiness, but to

counteract the agency of distress, we accept, “That is happiness. That

is happiness.” Just like I have no apartment, but to counteract this

inconvenience, if I try my utmost to get a good apartment I feel, “Oh,

now I am happy. I am happy.” What is this happiness? How long you

shall remain in this apartment? Suppose you have got, purchased, now

long you will live? So here happiness means to counteract the force of

distress is called happiness. Actually there is no happiness. This is

called maya. Just like I am in distressed condition, puzzled, I take

some intoxication. This is called happiness. I remain in the same

condition. After my intoxication is over, I come back again into the

same condition, but I am thinking (I am) happy. This is called maya.

Maya means… Ma means “not,” ya means “this.” “You are thinking like

this, but it is not this.” This is called maya. You are thinking that

you are happy, but you are not happy. So we are seeing that a criminal

is arrested by the police and he is put into the prisonhouse. We know

that he is put into trouble, but still, in spite of seeing that “This

kind of criminality will put me also into such kind of distress,” but

still, I commit that thing. This is the influence of maya.

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You have read in the Caitanya-caritamrta that one Buddhimanta Khan,

he was formerly… He was very rich man and Nawab Hussain Shah was the

servant when he was not Nawab. So he was menial servant. So he stole

some money as servants are generally habituated. So he whipped him

with his cane. So that whipping stripe was on his back side. When he

was Nawab, so his wife saw it and inquired, “What is this scar?” So he

replied the whole story, that “I was formerly a menial servant to this

Buddhimanta Khan and I did something wrong. So as my father, he

punished me. That’s all. He was treating me as my son.” So he admitted

that he was so kind. But his wife said, “Oh, this scar is a

defamation. If somebody sees and you explain, then it will be known

that you were a menial servant previously.” So the Nawab did not mind.

He: “What is that? I may be… Now what I am, that’s all.” So the wife

requested that “This man should be killed so that he may not disclose

the secret of your life, that you were a menial servant in his house.”

And “No, no, no. This is… This cannot be. He is just like my father.

How can I kill him? This is not possible.” And just see. Then she

advised, “At least make him Mohammedan. Convert him to be a

Mohammedan.” In those days it was not very difficult. If somebody, a

Mohammedan, takes water from his water pot and simply sprinkle in

somebody’s body, he becomes Mohammedan. The Hindu society was so

rascal. Still they are. Simply by sprinkling water from the pot of a

Mohammedan he becomes Mohammedan. So this Nawab said, “All right, I

shall sprinkle water. Let him do what he likes,” to satisfy his wife.

So he did it. When he did it–then the society was so strong–he went

to the bhattacarya to consult: “Oh, sir, I have been sprinkled water

by a Mohammedan. So what prayascitta?” What is called? What is the

English of prayascitta, compensation?

Revatinandana: Some penance.

Prabhupada: No, no. Atonement. “So what kind of atonement I have to

do?” So the bhattacarya advised him that “You take one kilo of lead

and melt it and drink it, and that is your atonement.” You see? So he

said, “How it is possible?” “This is the atonement for such sinful

activity. Yes.” Just see. For the last five hundred, six hundred

years… Why…? For thousands of years the Hindu society is so

fallen. Therefore so many Mohammedans have increased here. They are

not imported. In this way the Hindu population, they have been forced

to accept Mohammedan religion. You see? By the Mohammedans. Just like

Aurangzeb. He imposed one tax for the Hindus. So all the poor men

class, to avoid the tax they became Mohammedans. And there was so much

punishment by the Hindus. And so he became a Mohammedan, so-called

Mohammedan, by the diagnosis of the bhattacarya. So this kind of

prayascitta was current during the fallen days of the Vedic society.

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You become Krsna conscious and commit all sinful

activities, Krsna will give me protection.” And that will create

certainly atheism: “What is this bogus thing?” But that does not

mean… So, you surrender to Krsna. Krsna takes charge of your past

sinful activities. But that does not mean that I shall remain Krsna

conscious, at the same time I shall go on committing sin. This, for

this facility, if anyone takes to Krsna consciousness, that is most

sinful, that “I shall take to Krsna consciousness because whatever

sinful activities I shall do, it will be counteracted by Krsna.” So

that will create certainly atheism, that “What is this bogus talk?” Do

you follow? Yes. But that is not meant for.

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Prabhupada: Climate also. The climate is very favorable. Now it is, of

course, winter season. Otherwise, it will continue for two months

only. It is not very severe, and still, this condition will not

continue. Throughout the whole year you can remain naked body. There

is no expenditure for dressing much. And to remain clean, you simply

wash in the water, and immediately it is… So with one cloth or two

cloths you can go on for six months. There is no much expenditure. And

this vegetarian diet, if you take a few grains of this chick pea and

little milk, you don’t require anything to eat. Everything, facility,

is there still. But they have… The people are being trained up to

imitate Western civilization. That is the government policy, that,

Unless you become Westernized, technologist, you’ll not be happy.”

But they can become happy even in this condition. This artificial

partition has caused some trouble by the Britishers because the

Pakistan has taken away all the wheat and rice. Their purpose was

that. The Punjab side, they are producing wheat in very large

quantity. In Bengal, that is the, perhaps the biggest rice producing

country in the world, Bengal. So rice is in Pakistan and wheat is in

Pakistan. Even cows, they were maintained by the Punjabis, big, big

cows, milk-producing. They are now in the Punjab. So there is no milk,

there is no rice, there is no wheat. And they have no sugar. The sugar

is produced this side. In this way, always. And the Kashmir

question… That is British policy. Due to this partition only,

India’s position is now very crippled. And these rascal leaders, they

accepted partition for becoming prime minister. This policy. Gandhi

never agreed. So the Jawaharlal Nehru, in order to become prime

minister, he committed such a blunder. Therefore India is given…

Still, if they keep to their original culture, they will not be

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the temple. Tan-mandira-marjanadau. Don’t think that if one is engaged

in the Deity worship and if one is engaged in the gardening work there

is distinction. No. The one who is working as a gardener, he is as

good as the one who is dressing the Deity, because it is Absolute

plane. There is no difference between… Just like in the material

world, if one is working as manager and the other is working as menial

servant, there is difference of pay or difference of service. No. In

the spiritual world there is no such thing. In the spiritual world

even a small ant who is serving Krsna by chance… Suppose if there is

an ant and the flower is thrown into the lotus feet of Krsna and the

ant kisses the lotus feet of Krsna, he is as good as the pujari. This

is spiritual world. So we should give everyone chance how to serve

Krsna. Then he will remain on the upper platform. Samatitya. Atitya

mean transcending. Etan gunan. Etan gunan means because the material

world is complicated with the modes of material nature, so this is

called guna. So anyone who is engaged constantly in devotional

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things will be cleansed. For example, you can see practically all my

disciples present there. They are coming from Western countries,

Europe, America, or even in India, Parsis and other, Mohammedans, they

are coming. But they are now pure, cleansed of all dirty things. In

this movement throughout the whole world there are at least ten to

twelve thousand devotees like that. And before this life they were

addicted to all kinds of sinful life. We have summarized all sinful

activities into four groups, namely, illicit sex, meat-eating,

intoxication, and gambling. So all these ten to twelve thousand men

who are now attached with this Krsna consciousness movement, they are

not commiting these four pillars of sinful life.

Therefore our request is that you take to this chanting method. It

is very easy, Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama

Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, and gradually you shall become free

from all sinful reaction of life. But one thing we must be very

careful, that we should not commit again sinful life. If you chant

Hare Krsna mantra, you become free immediately from all sinful

reaction. But if you commit again sinful life, that is your

responsibility. This is warned very… Amongst the ten kinds of

offenses, one offense is very (sic:) grievious offense–namnad balad

yasya hi papa-buddhih–if one thinks that “I am chanting Hare Krsna;

therefore whatever sinful acts I am doing, it is becoming

counteracted.” If you keep yourself on the platform of chanting Hare

Krsna mantra and do not commit willfully again sinful life, then you

are liberated. [this means chanting without offenses]So not only mukti-marga, if you keep yourself always pure, do not commit any sinful activity and chant Hare Krsna mantra,

then your life is successful. Don’t commit the mistake of the elephant

that take bath thoroughly and again come and throw dust on your body.

I think I shall end tonight this here. Thank you very much. (end)

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Because Mayavadi philosophers, they are very much,I

mean to say, careful, that “My salvation may…, may…, may not be

interrupted. If I go to preach, and in association with others, if I

fall down, then my business will be finished.” So they do not come.

Only Vaisnava comes at the risk of their falldown. They do not fall

down, but they go even to the hell to deliver. So Prahlada, this is

Prahlada Maharaja’s admission. He says that na udvije: “I’m not very

much anxious or perturbed because I am living in this material world.”

Naivodvije para duratyaya-vaitaranyah. Vaitaranyah means this hellish

condition of life, how to cross the river of hellish condition of

life. So “I have no anxiety for that.”

…that does not solve the problem. You have manufactured cars. I have

practical experience. When Dayananda wanted to take me to a doctor

from Los Angeles, it is thirty miles off. Thirty miles off. So I had

to take trouble to go thirty miles and come thirty miles before I

could consult the doctor. You see? And if you have created cars, then

you must have meet your friends and necessities thirty miles off,

forty miles off. You can go from New York to Boston in one hour, but

go to the airport you will take three hours. (laughter) Therefore it

is called maya-sukhaya. (laughter) Maya means false, illusory. We are

trying to create some very comfortable situation, but creating another

uncomfortable situation. This is called maya-su… This is the way

of… If you do not be satisfied by the natural comforts offered by

God, or nature, if you want to create artificial comfort, then you

have to create another discomfort for counteracting. They do not know

that. They are thinking that “We are creating very comfortable

situation.” Fifty miles going to the office. For earning livelihood,

fifty miles, from one place to another. I saw in Hawaii. When

Gaurasundara was working to maintain our temple, he was working.

Unfortunately, he had to go fifty miles off from the temple to work

for it. So I was very sorry to see how this boy is going fifty miles.

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many others… So He is always in association of His assistants, who

are assisting Him in propagating the sankirtana movement. Gaurangera

sangi-gane, nitya-siddha bhoi mane. Anyone who is preaching the

sankirtana movement is associate of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

Sangopangastra… Just like Advaita Prabhu, Nityananda Prabhu helped,

similarly, anyone, even up to date, who is trying to help the

propagation of Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission, preach this sankirtana

movement all over the world, he is also associate of Caitanya

Mahaprabhu. Gaurangera sangi-gane nitya siddha boli mane. They are not

ordinary human being. Nitya siddha, ever liberated.

…you will be saved. Otherwise there is no saving. Tatha

dehantara-praptih. You will have to accept another body. And what is

that body? That is not stated. That will be decided at the end of your

life, at the time of your death, at the condition of your mind and

intelligence at that time. If, at that time, you are thinking of your

pet dog, “What will happen to my pet dog? How he will live? Let me

leave some of my property in his name,” (laughter) then you can leave

the dog with some property, but you are going to be dog. This is laws

of nature. You may love your dog very nicely and leave some property,

but where you are going, sir? That is under the nature’s law. You

cannot say that “I given so much property to the dog. Why shall I

accept the…?” No. Because your mind is absorbed in the thought of

dog, therefore you must take the dog’s body. This is nature’s law.

Therefore we have to train up our mind. Instead of dog, you must train

up your mind to think of God. Then you will be saved. Tyaktva deham

punar janma naiti mam.

…human being or demigod or cat or dog. These are all ordained. So you

cannot get out the living entity, soul, by force from that body. Then

you will be punishable. The living entity is never killed, but you

have no right to get him out from that body. That is sinful. If you

argue that “What is the harm if I kill one animal, because it is said,

na hanyate hanyamane sarire: ‘The living entity, soul, is never killed

even after the annihilation of this body’?” that is all right. But you

cannot force him. Just like if you get one person, by force, get out

from his apartment–he is not dying, of course, but still, it is

criminal because you are forcing to go out of the apartment. So that

is the law of nature. You cannot force anyone to get out of the body.

Then you are punishable.

…sinful.” So if he commits some sinful activity, he goes to a very

expert brahmana. They are called bhattacarya. They are especial…

Just like there are physicians for treatment of the disease, there are

highly learned brahmanas who are called bhattacaryas. People go there:

“Sir, I have committed this sin. What I have to do?” So they prescribe

that “You do like this.” So similarly, as we go to the physician, we

have to go to consult an expert learned brahmana, that “I have

committed…” But people used to understand that what is sinful and

what is pious. Now people are so downtrodden, so dull, mandah, that

they do not understand what is sinful, what is pious. They are going

on, doing all nonsense without any care. And there is no question of

consulting physician or learned brahmana.

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So atonement is prescribed in every scripture. Even in Christian

Bible there is atonement. So in other scriptures also there is

atonement. Just like a man who has committed murder, he must die.

“Life for life.” This is atonement. When the government punishes a

murderer with capital punishment, death, that is a mercy upon him.

That punishment is accepted practically all over the world from time

immemorial. So there must be atonement. So if a person who has

committed murder, killed somebody else, then if he is punished by

death, then the sinful activities which he has committed, that is

counteracted. Otherwise he will have to suffer next life very

severely, four times. So people do not believe even in the next life,

and what to speak of atonement and punishment. They are kept in

darkness. Otherwise they would have been… If they would have

followed actually the injunction of the sastras… First of all one

should not be killing anyone. In the Bible also it is said, “Thou

shall not kill.” Why it is forbidden? Because if he kills, he’ll have

to suffer. But they do not care for it. Therefore they suffer.

….something sinful by my mind, then we become affected. Therefore we

must keep always sinless. Kaya-mana-vakya. This sannyasa tridanda…

There are three rods within the stick or the cover, three dandas. Not

three, four. Three is kaya–body, mind, kaya, mana, and words, and one

he is personally. Therefore there are four sticks within the danda.

Those who have taken sannyasa, they know it. The idea is that “I

surrender to my spiritual master or Krsna.” Spiritual master is

identical with Krsna because he gives true knowledge. Therefore he is

as good as God. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha

bhavyata. A spiritual master is considered directly as the Supreme

…bodies according to my choice. This morning we were talking about the

sufferers, what is called? The sea suffers?

Devotees: Surfers.

Prabhupada: Surfer, yes. (devotees laugh) Surfer. I call “sufferer.”

“Sea-sufferer.” (laughter) Sea-surfer, it is practical because we are

creating a situation by which we shall become a fish. Yes.

Contamination. Just like if you purposely contaminate some disease you

must suffer from that disease. Karanam guna-sango ‘sya sad-asad

janma-yonisu, in the Bhagavad-gita. Why there are different varieties

of life? What is the reason? That reason means karanam. Krsna says in

…   So there are three modes of material nature–goodness, passion, and

ignorance. So long we are in this material world, purusah prakrti-stho

‘pi bhunjante tad-gunan. If we remain in certain place, we must be

affected by the modes of that place. So there are three modes,

sattva-guna, rajo-guna. We have to associate either with the modes of

goodness or with the modes of passion or with the modes of ignorance.

.. guna-sango ‘sya. So the person who is taking very much pleasure,

dancing in the sea like fish, so he is contaminating that modes of

nature so that in next life he will become a fish. He’ll be very free

to dance with the ocean. (laughter) Now it will take again millions of

years to come to the stage of human being. Jalaja nava-laksani

sthavara laksa-vimsati. He has to pass through the fish life. There

are 900,000 different species of life. Then you again come to the

land–you become trees, plants, and so on. Two millions different

forms you have to go through. That is evolution. Darwin’s theory of

evolution, that is not perfectly explained. It is explained in the

Vedic literature. So just a tree is standing for ten thousands of

years, we had to pass through this life. But there is no perfect

knowledge. We are thinking we are now very nice American body or

Indian body. No. It took so many years to come to this life. Therefore

sastra says, labdhva sudurlabham idam bahu-sambhavante: “You have got

this human form of life after many, many millions of years’ waiting.”

So do not misuse it. That is Vedic civilization, not to misuse the

…the Pitrloka. If you want to remain here as human being, you can also

remain here, but you have to work for it to keep your position,

status. Just like if you become rich man, high standard of life, you

have to maintain it. Not that it will continue automatically. No, that

is not possible, sir. This material world is not like that: you get

one position and it will continue. No. A little discrepancy,

immediately deteriorate your position. So you have to maintain it.

…life. But our, this Krsna consciousness movement begins when you are

ready to surrender. That is beginning. Tad viddhi pranipatena.

Pranipat means surrender. Prakrsta-rupena nipata. “Yes, I surrender to

you.” That is the beginning. Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam

prapadyate. To learn the surrender, it will take many, many births.

Bahunam janmanam ante. But those who are intelligent, they will

surrender immediately. “Krsna says, ‘Surrender,’ and why not? Krsna is

the Supreme Lord. Let me surrender.” Then his life is successful

immediately. Within a second his life is successful. But we are not

prepared to surrender. That is our material disease. So if we do not

surrender to Krsna and take His instruction and make our life, that is

our choice. But if you like, you can make your life successful within

a moment simply by surrendering to Krsna.

Thank you very much.

Devotees: Jaya Prabhupada! (end)

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Young man: (yelling) Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Look what your

Godbrothers are doing. Prabhupada! Please help me, Prabhupada!

Prabhupada: What is that?

Devotees: There’s a crazy boy out there. Crazy man. Crazy man…

Young man: Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Devotees. Hypocrites.

They’re hypocrites. (devotees chant japa loudly)

Prabhupada: So office record is kept there…[he ignores him and just goes on]

Young man: You’re full of nescience!

Prabhupada: …and, according to the activities of that particular

person, he’s awarded promotion, increment of pay, or sometimes

degraded and fired off. Two things are there. Similarly, for all our

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Unless we come to the original consciousness, then we are crazy in

different degrees. Everyone who is not in Krsna consciousness, he is

to be supposed crazy because he is talking on a platform which is

temporary, transient. It will be finished. But we, as living entities,

we are eternal. So temporary business is not our business. Our

business should be eternal because we are eternal. And that eternal

business is how to serve Krsna. Just like this finger is the part and

parcel of my body, but the finger’s eternal business is how to serve

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thinking, “I am this, I am that.” But actual thinking should be “I am

Krsna’s.” That is Krsna consciousness. “I am Krsna’s.” And in Krsna

consciousness relationship, because Krsna is for everyone, therefore I

become everyone’s. Just try to understand. In India, the system is

when a girl is married to a boy, so–in your country also, everywhere,

the same system–just like the nephew of the boy calls the girl

“Aunt.” Now, how she becomes aunt? Because, in relationship with her

husband. Before the marriage, she was not aunt, but as soon as he

(she) is related with her husband, the husband’s nephew become the

nephew. Just try to understand the example. Similarly, if we

reestablish our relationship, or our original relationship with Krsna,

and Krsna is for everyone, therefore I become for everyone. That is

real universal love. The artificial, so-called universal love cannot

be established unless you have established your relationship with the

central point. Just like you are Americans. Why? Because you are born

in this land. So another American is a member of your country, but if

you become something else, then you have no relationship with another

American. So we have to reestablish our relationship with Krsna. Then

the question of universal brotherhood, justice, peace, prosperity will

come. Otherwise, there is no possibility. Central point missing. How

there can be justice and peace? It is not possible.

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The injunction is that tad viddhi, if you want to understand

transcendental subject matter, not material, spiritual… Spiritual is

completely unknown to us because we do not know what is spiritual. We

are identifying with this body. You do not know even that “I am spirit

soul.” So where is the possibility of spiritual understanding? One

cannot see himself, what he is. He is thinking, “I am this body,”

exactly like the dog. The dog is thinking, “I am dog.” So if I think,

“I am American,” “I am Indian,” where is the difference? There is no

difference. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. If one thinks that “I

am this body,” then he’s no better than sa eva go-kharah. The animals,

they also think like that, “I am this body.”

…then we are rascal. There is no beyond. This is perfect knowledge. So

how to take perfect knowledge? Tad viddhi. First of all you try to

learn. Tad viddhi. How to learn? Where to learn? Pranipatena, fully

surrendered. If you find somebody that he is somebody important where

you can surrender fully, from him… Tad viddhi pranipata… This is.

Our process of Vedic knowledge is how to surrender, not that I hear

and I reject it. That is not the way. That is another rascaldom. First

of all find out the person where you can surrender.

Surrender means you first of all be convinced that “Here is a

person who can give me actual knowledge.” Therefore before selecting

guru one has to convince himself that “The person whom I am going to

accept as guru, whether he actually can give me the knowledge?” That

is wanted. Therefore before making guru, the system is, for one year

the prospective disciple should hear from the person and then decide.

And similarly, the guru also see a person who is actually submissive

or not. That is Vaisnava injunction, Hari-bhakti-vilasa, not that to

make a guru as a fashion. No. Not do. Don’t keep a guru,

order-supplying guru. No. Just like if somebody keeps a dog and the

master orders him, “Do this,” and he does, fashion. No. It is not

fashion. You must approach guru who…, where you can surrender.

Otherwise don’t make guru. And the guru also should not accept such

rascal as guru. First of all the thing is surrender. Tad viddhi

pranipatena. The first necessity is that you surrender. So here you

have seen, Pariksit Maharaja, although the emperor of the world, he is

taking lesson from Sukadeva Gosvami. Sukadeva Gosvami is seated on the

throne and he is seated on the ground, submissive. So does it mean

that “I shall become submissive, and whatever my guru will say, I will

have to accept?” No. Pariprasnena. Tad viddhi. Here is the pariprasna.

Sri-raja uvaca. Ask him. That is intelligent. Intelligently serve.

First of all we must… It is not that he is checking the guru, “How

my guru is learned?” No. The submission is there. But when the guru

says something, he may not understand. That concession is given,

pariprasna. You inquire.

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When Rsabhadeva, the father of Maharaja Bharata, after whose name

this planet is called Bharatavarsa The name Bharatavarsa is not only

the name for India, but it is the name for this planet. Formerly, five

thousand years ago, the whole planet was known as Bharatavarsa. The

Vedic culture was all over the world. These Europeans and Americans,

they are coming of the same stock, Indo-Aryan stock. There is a great

history behind this, how some of the ksatriyas, they left India during

the time of Parasurama. He declared war against the ksatriyas and he

was incarnation of God. He was killing the ksatriyas like anything and

some of the ksatriyas fled from India and came to this part of the

world. So from historical point of view you Europeans and Americans,

you belong to the ksatriya stock of old India, and somehow or other

you have forgotten this Vedic culture. Originally you belonged to this

Vedic culture. The Vedic culture was all over the world, even in

America–different types of worship or concept of God. The Red Indians

also had some religion.

…   But real, real fact is if you want to advance in spiritual

understanding, if you want to make a solution of all the problems of

your life, then you have to accept this life of austerity, tapasya.

Restriction. Restriction is meant for human beings, not for the

animals. Just like in our common dealings, when you drive your car,

you have got some restriction. You cannot drive your car on the left

side. That is offense. “Keep to the right.” You cannot drive your car

…regulation. That is human life. But now the propaganda is that

everyone, one wants to be free, no regulative life. This is animal

life. Just try to understand. The regulations, lawbooks, restrictions,

they are meant for human being, not for animals. And if you want

freedom from all restrictions, then you come to the animal life.

Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami recommends first tapasya. If you want to

stop the problems of life, then you have to accept the life of

austerity, tapasya.

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This is the translation of the… Nasnatah pathyam. Pathyam. Pathyam

means good foodstuff, not “Anything I can eat.” That is the business

of the hogs and dogs. Just like hogs have no discrimination. Anything,

up to stool you give him: it will eat. That is not human civilization.

Although it is the law of nature that ahastani sahastanam. Vegetables

or animals who has no hand… Just like ordinary animals, they have

got four legs, no hand. So these four-legged animals is the food for

the two-legged animals. Ahastani sahastanam. Uncivilized men means

two-legged animals. They are animals, but two-legged. There are

four-legged animals; there are two-legged. Ahastani sahastanam apadani

catus-padam: “And living entities who have no legs, just like the

vegetables, grass, plants, trees…” They have no legs. They cannot

move, but they are living entities. They are food for catus-padam, for

the animals who have got four legs. Ahastani sahastanam apadani

catus-padam, phalguni mahatam tatra: “And the weak is food for the

strong.” Phalguni… Jivo jivasya jivanam. This is the law of nature,

that one life is meant for maintaining another life. That is going on.

So sometimes they put forward this argument that “You are also eating

vegetables. They have got life. Why you object that nonvegetarians who

are eating four legged animals…?” No. We are not going to infringe

to the laws of nature. That is not our business. You can eat

four-legged animals because you are also animal. But when we speak of

civilized animals… Civilized is not animal. That is human being. So

long one is not civilized, he is animal. And the civilization begins

when one understands that he is not this body. That is the beginning

of civilization. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. So long one is

in ignorance, the bodily concept of life, he is animal. When one knows

that “I am not this body; I am… Aham brahmasmi,” then civilization


So here it is recommended that unless we follow the rules and

regulations, then there is no possibility of curing our material

disease. The whole process is we are in materially diseased. Otherwise

we are as good as Krsna, but because we are materially diseased, we

are in the difficult position of birth, death, old age and disease.

Krsna says. This is real problem.

Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. So if we want to be

cured from this disease, then we have to follow rules and regulation,

just like a patient, if he wants to be cured from the disease, he has

to follow the rules and regulation prescribed by the physician.

Therefore law, religion, Vedic scripture, they are all meant for human

being, not for the cats and dogs. Even ordinary law, they are meant

for human being. Just like on the street it is “Keep to the right.” So

this is for the human being. If the cats and dogs goes from right to

the left or wrong, they are not prosecuted. The law is meant for the

human being. If the human being does not follow rules and regulative

principle, law, then he’s animal. So civilized means to raise oneself

from the animal status of life to the human status life. That means

rules and regulations.

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Prabhupada: So we have been discussing this verse for the last two

days. Tyagena. Partially I have already explained: tyaga, renounce.

There is some natural tendency also for renouncing. When one gets to

the topmost of material opulence, immediately there is a tendency for

renunciation. This hippie movement is like that. They have got a good

qualification that they have renounced this materialistic way of life.

Tyagena. The, there are two kinds of tendencies: one is bhoga and one

is tyaga. Bhoga means enjoyment, sense enjoyment, and tyaga means to

give up this material world. But without guidance, one does not know

how to renounce this material world. That is called tyaga. Bhoga and

tyaga, two kinds of tendencies are going on in this material world.

First of all they want to enjoy, and when they are frustrated in

enjoyment, then there is renouncement. Again when they are tired of

renouncement, again enjoyment. Just like the clock pendulum, this side

and that side–tock, tock, tock, tock. Similarly, we are oscillating:

sometimes in the platform of enjoyment and sometimes on the platform

of renouncement. Two things are there in this material world. The

karmis, they are trying to enjoy this world, whole day and night that

expressway, always trucks and cars are going on–sonh, sonh, sonh,

sonh. Bhoga, how to enjoy, first class. Another, the hippies. They

don’t want to do anything. Both sides are there in your country, bhoga

and tyaga.

But in neither of the paths you’ll be happy, because that is not

your proper position. You cannot enjoy or you cannot renounce.

Actually the whole thing belongs to Krsna. Nothing belongs to anyone.

Whatever you have got in possession, that is Krsna’s property.

Isavasyam idam sarvam. Everything. You do…, you try to understand.

The trees, the plants, the water, the land–have you produced it? Then

…   Then what to do? That is direction given by Krsna: sarva-dharman

parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. You have created different types of

religion on the basis of this bhoga and tyaga. So you give up all

them. Then? Mam ekam saranam vraja: “You surrender unto Me.” Because

you cannot enjoy nor make any renunciation. But here it is said

tapasa, tyagena, by renouncing. Renouncing means that you’re falsely

possessing. So you give it to Krsna, the original proprietor. Just

like one hundred dollars note, a child has taken from the father. The

child does not know how to use that hundred dollars note, but he,

he’ll not give it to the father. “No, I shall not give it.” Father is

begging: “Oh, my dear child, you are so nice. Kindly give it to me.”

Actually the note belongs to the father. But because he’s child, he’s

innocent, ignorant, he does not know. Therefore Krsna says, dadasi yat

kurusva mad-arpanam. Dana, this tyaga, “You renounces this world for

Me. You renounce your wealth, your property for Me.” The same thing.

Everything belongs to Krsna. He’s not a beggar. But He’s patting the

child, “Oh, you are very good boy. Kindly give it to Me.” That is the

way. Krsna is so kind. Because… The same example: the child does not

know how to utilize that hundred dollars note. He’ll simply spoil it.

The best thing is to give it over, hand it over to the father. He

knows how to use it. It is his property.

Similarly this tyagena means to practice, to give everything to

Krsna. Everything. Tyagena. Samena damena tyagena. This is the

different steps of elevating yourself to Krsna consciousness. Tapasa

brahmacaryena samena ca damena ca, tyagena satya-saucabhyam. Satya

means truthfulness. One should know what is truth, ultimate truth,

Absolute Truth. We are concerned with relative truths, but we have to

know the Absolute Truth. Just like in the Bhagavata Vyasadeva is

offering his respect, obeisances: satyam param dhimahi. “I offer my

respect to the Supreme Truth, not to the relative truth.” We are

concerned with relative truth, categorical truth, not the summum

bonum. Saucabhyam: cleanliness. This is also required. Cleanliness.

…   So you are all initiated to become brahmana. You have become

brahmana. Don’t become false brahmana. Real brahmana. It is not by

birth; it is by education, by practice, by knowledge. So we are

offering the sacred thread to the Americans and Europeans in the

Western countries, and some of our Indian contemporaries, they are not

very happy with my action. They are under contemplation that a

brahmana can be, I mean to say, seen by birthright. No. No. Brahmana

is by qualification. Brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. That is the

verdict of Krsna. We are concerned with Krsna, not any other else.

Krsna says, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah: “By

division of quality and, guna, and work, one must have the symptoms,

the quality of a brahmana, and work as a brahmana.” Not that…

Quality will be tested by work. Suppose if you are engineer. You have

got the quality of… But if you sit down at home, what is your value?

You must be engaged in some engineer work. Suppose you are lawyer, and

if you don’t go to the court and sleep at your home, then what is the

worth of your studying law? Therefore guna-karma. One should not be

simply qualified as engineer or lawyer, but he must work also, as

engineer, as lawyer. Then he’s bona fide. Similarly, unless you work

as a brahmana, simply saying that “I am a brahmana,” what is the

value? Useless. They…, therefore Krsna says, guna-karma-vibhagasah.

There must be quality and work also. So here we are qualifying the

students to be raised in the brahminical platform, and they’re working

also as brahmana. How they are working as brahmana? Because they’re

fully engaged in Param Brahma’s service, Krsna’s service. Therefore

they are brahmanas. Brahma janati iti brahmanah. Without knowing,

nobody can render service. They are not rendering service in the ear.

They are serving Krsna factually. Here is sitting Krsna with

…can…? That is not possible. Therefore the process is being explained

by Sukadeva Gosvami: tapasa. First thing is tapasya, austerity. Even

it is painful… Austerity’s painful. Brahmacarya is painful. Because

we want, unrestricted, to do everything. But no. As soon as it is

regulated it appears to be painful. When it is practiced, it is not

painful. One brahmacari in Indian city, in severe cold, he was

sleeping in the open air, without any covering. And it was severe

cold. But it was practice. During Magha-mela, many saintly persons

come there on the bank of the Ganga, Ganges. This year we had our own

camp; we have seen. The whole night they are sitting in the open air,

without any covering.

So practice. So practice means if you undergo austerity, tapasya,

everything will be practiced. That is a Bengali proverb: sarire na

mahasaya(?). Mahasaya is a word used in India, a very respectable

gentleman, mahasaya. So this sarira, this body is mahasaya. Ya sa haye

sa taicha(?). Whatever he’ll practice, it will be accustomed. So

practice. So here this Krsna consciousness movement is bringing them

to the practice. Therefore you find, so nice, boys and girls, they’re

practiced. As soon as they’re neglectful to the practice—falls down.

They cannot stay. Immediately goes out. So that is called austerity,

tapasya. Practice. Practical life. So these are the processes.

…continuously committing sinful activities, from time immemorial… You

do not know when it began. Evolution, many births. Therefore this life

is meant for rectifying all mistakes that we had committed in our

previous life or in this life. How? By this process. Ksipanty agham.

Agham means the resultant action of sinful life. Mahad api. Although

it is very great, mahad api, how? Venu-gulmam, venu-gulmam ivanalah.

Just like if you set fire to unwanted grass and creepers in the field.

You set fire, and they will be all burned. Similarly, by this process,

tapasa brahmacaryena, you can liquidate all of your sinful activities

of life and you become purified.

So the next process, another alternative process is being suggested

by Sukadeva Gosvami.

kecit kevalaya bhaktya

…dangerous, fog. Those who are… But as soon as there is sunrise, some

way or other, everything finished. Similarly, some way or other, if

you take to Krsna consciousness, all the sinful reaction of your life

immediately finished like the fog. So, but… This process is accepted

kecit, somebody, very fortunate. Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore said:

ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva

guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija

The Krsna consciousness is not for ordinary persons. It is meant for

very, very fortunate persons. But simply by accepting one thing, Krsna

consciousness, he finishes all business of brahmacarya, tyaga, yama,

niyama, sama, dama, everything.

So Sukadeva Gosvami is prescribing, kecit kevalaya bhaktya.

Kevalaya bhaktya. Kevala-bhakti. There is no mixture. Kevala means

only pure devotional service. What is that pure devotional service?



anukulyena krsnanu-

silanam bhaktir uttama

No other desire than to please Krsna. Not that “I have become a

devotee. Now my income will increase,” or “I shall be…” That, that

will come automatically. You want money to increase your income to

become happy. But if you take to Krsna consciousness, automatically

you’ll be so happy that you’ll neglect to collect money. That will

automatically come. There is no need of separate endeavor. Happiness

will come. Yam labdhva. Just like Dhruva, Dhruva Maharaja. He was so

lamenting. Those who are recording, I mean, transcribing my tapes, how

he was lamenting, that “How foolish I was that I took to devotional

service with a desire for some material profit.” He was so much

repentant. So that is, that is another profit of the devotee. For

material profit, somebody goes to somebody, some boss, some rich man,

some demigod, some powerful man. But a devotee does not go anywhere.

He goes to Krsna only. Even if he has got material desires. That is

the advantage. This advantage: that if you go to Krsna for some

material advantage even, then day will come, you’ll forget that

material advantage.

…anything else from me”–he’s a rich man–ask him for millions of

dollars or something like that. But instead of…, if you ask for your

foolishness, that “Please give me some broken grains of rice…” So

similarly, to go to Krsna and to ask some material benefit is exactly

like this, to go to some rich man and ask from his “Please give me

some broken grains of rice.” Why one should ask for material happiness

from Krsna? Material happiness will roll on his feet: “Please take me,

please take me.” These Krsna conscious boys and girls, in sixty

centers, just see how they are materially opulent. They’re living in

the best house. They’re eating best food. They’re in best

consciousness. They have got the best hope. Everything best. Their

feature of body is best. What you want material happiness more than

this? They have got wife, children, happiness, home–everything–full.

So material happiness is nothing to a Krsna conscious person. He gets

automatically by the grace of Krsna. There is no need of asking for

  1. Simply be steady to ask Krsna, “Please engage me in Your service.”

Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. How Krsna will be satisfied? Then your

satisfaction will automatically come. Don’t bother for material


Thank you very much.

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does not become old. Nava-yauvanam ca. Advaitam acyutam anadim

ananta-rupam adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam ca. He is the oldest

person because He has created everything, but He will never look old.

You will never see Krsna’s picture as old man. These are the

definition of God. God, nobody can be richer than Him, nobody can be

stronger than Him, nobody can be more beautiful than Him, and nobody

wiser than Him even. That proof we can see: Bhagavad-gita was spoken

five thousand years ago, and still Bhagavad-gita is worshiped as the

best book of knowledge. This is the proof. So God does not depend on

anyone’s proof. But if you want to prove whether He is God, you can

get. That you can get.

Therefore we should accept Krsna as the Supreme God. It is stated

in all sastras, ….

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Therefore we should accept Krsna as the Supreme God. It is stated

in all sastras, and Arjuna also, who listened Bhagavad-gita from

Krsna, he also accepted. After hearing Bhagavad-gita, he said, param

brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan, purusam sasvatam adyam. So

our process is to follow the predecessor. The Arjuna, he accepted. Not

only Arjuna. “Arjuna may be His friend. He might have accepted his

friend as God.” No. Krsna is accepted by the greatest learned scholar,

Vyasadeva, and greatest saintly person, Narada. That is Vyasadeva

writes in his Srimad-Bhagavatam that “I have given description of

different incarnation of God.” He has given so many incarnation. At

last, he concludes that “Although Krsna came as incarnation, but He is

not incarnation. He is the incarnate. From Him, all incarnations

come.” Ete camsa-kalah pumsah krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. As soon as

you say “incarnation,” the next question will be, “Whose incarnation?”

That Vyasadeva explains, that Krsna’s incarnation Krsna is not

incarnation. Krsna is personally the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

That is the statement of Vyasadeva, the most learned. He is accepted

the most, actually. Who can be more learned than Vyasadeva in this

material world? Nobody. You can see his writing, Bhagavatam, how

exalted, scholarly. Nobody can write such verses at the present

moment. It is not possible. Each and every word is full of meaning and

so nicely set up. Therefore it is said, vidvan cakre satvata-samhitam:

“The vidvan, the most learned Vyasadeva, has given us the


So if we want to know, everything is there; but to understand, that

will require a separate brain. That is recommended here. You create

your brain. Tapasa, first of all austerity. You cannot create your

brain by doing nonsense things. That is not possible. You have to

control: samena damena, tapasa brahmacaryena. These are the process to

create a brain to understand God. Otherwise it is useless.

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Therefore, this human form of body is especially meant for creating

a favorable situation so that when we pass through this body or we

leave this body and we accept another body, we’ll get exact a body

like Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. We are trying to

change the consciousness of the people so that this preparation will

help him to get exactly a body like Krsna in next life, and he may

dance with Krsna in rasa dance. That is our propaganda. Body you’ll

get. That’s a fact. Just as you are getting one body after another in

this life, similarly, tatha dehantara-praptir, similarly another

change of body. Dhiras tatra na muhyati. Those who are in the

knowledge, they’re not surprised. They know what kind of body. “My

father left this body; now he has accepted another body.” He can

understand what kind of body he has. How? Just like when you see a

friend going away to other place by plane, you know, “This plane is

meant for…” Just like I came from New York yesterday to London. So

everyone knows that I have gone to London. How? They are not seeing

me, but from the evidences of the ticket, of the aeroplane and

everything, they know certainly, “Swamiji has gone to London.”

Similarly, if you know the things right, you can know also “Where this

man is going after death.” How you gan know? That is also stated in

the Bhagavad-gita. Urdhvam gacchanti sattva-stha: “Those who are

situated in the modes of goodness…. That is Vedic civilization.

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But as you make progress in service, you’ll find it pleasing, not

disgusting. That is the taste that you have developed. When you do not

feel disgusted in the service, in executing the service of the Lord,

that means you have made progress. That material service becomes


Just like for example, here is Krsna’s name, “Hare Krsna.”

Throughout one’s life, twenty-four hours, he’s chanting Hare Krsna.

But it is not disgusting. But take any material name and chant it

three times, you become disgusted. This is a fact. But these boys,

these girls, throughout, throughout their life will go on chanting

Hare Krsna, will never be disgusted, but they will chant more and

more. So this is priti. The more you chant, the more you become

attached: “Let me chant more.” Not disgusted, but “Let me chant more.”

This is called priti. Similarly, any service of the Lord. This is

service by sravanam and kirtanam.

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Prabhupada: Do something for Krsna?

Devotee (1): For Krsna. But he begins to realize it’s still tinged

with a lot of personal gratification…

Prabhupada: Therefore he should consult spiritual master. The guide is

there. Then it is all right. He should take sanction from Krsna or

Krsna’s representative. If he wants to do something, that’s good, but

whether that doing is right or wrong you have to know it from Krsna or

His representative. Is it clear or not? Yes.

Devotee (1): How can one reach the point where he knows that a

particular type of service…

Sruta-kirti: How can one reach the point where he knows a particular

type of service…

Devotee (1): …will please the spiritual master?

Madhudvisa: He wants to know how to find out how to please the

spiritual master with one service.

Prabhupada: The spiritual master has given you so many things to do.

Do it. First of all finish that. First of all finish sixteen rounds,

observe the regulative principles. First of all… First of all finish

this duty. And neglecting this duty, what you can do further? If you

cannot finish sixteen rounds chanting, you cannot observe the

regulative principles, then what else you can do? First of all finish

this duty. Be expert in finishing, executing these duties. Then ask

for another duty. And if you finish these duties, automatically Krsna

will give you intelligence. Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam

priti-purvakam. One who is actually engaged in the service of the

Lord, buddhi-yogam dadami tam, “I give him intelligence.” Krsna will

give you intelligence. You will be able to talk with Krsna from within

if you become sincere. If you cannot execute the preliminary duties,

then how you can execute further duty? There is no question.

Madhudvisa: This is a problem, I think, with many devotees. They have

a difficulty distinguishing between their own speculation and the


Prabhupada: Then they should stop speculation. That is their first

duty. Devotional life means stop speculation.

Madhudvisa: Well, what is inspiration then?

Prabhupada: Inspiration? That inspiration is there. That is very good,

that “I shall do something for Krsna.” So whatever duty is assorted to

you or allotted to you, you first execute that duty.

Devotee (2): How important is formal initiation?

Prabhupada: Formal initiation means to accept, officially, to abide by

the orders of Krsna and His representative. That is formal initiation.

Officially accept, “Yes, sir, I shall accept. I shall do whatever you

say.” This is initiation, official acceptance of the job. That’s all.

Now, you formally accept, and if you do not do the duties, then where

is the question of other function? There is no question. Initiation

means this is the beginning of accepting the orders of Krsna and His

representative to carry out. This is the beginning. That is

initiation. Just like if you enter in an office establishment, so you

accept the terms of service. That is initiation. Then you go on

serving, you become promoted, you get salary increase. You become

recognized. You become officer. You become big officer, like that.

That very word initiation suggests, “This is the beginning.” Diksa,

diksa. Di… Divya. There are two words, divya-jnana. Divya-jnana

means transcendental, spiritual knowledge. So divya is di, and jnanam,

ksapayati, explaining, that is ksa, di-ksa. This is called diksa,

diksa, the combination. So diksa means the initiation to begin

transcendental activities. That is called initiation. Therefore we

take promise from the disciple that “You chant so many times,” “Yes,

sir.” “You observe these rules and regulations,” “Yes, sir.” That is

initiation. He has to observe; he has to chant. Then everything comes

automatically. In the beginning he is faulty; then how he can make

progress? There is no question of in…, what is called? What you were


Madhudvisa: Inspiration.

Prabhupada: Inspiration. What is that inspiration? If you have got

inspiration, first of all execute this. Inspiration there is. Because

we are, by nature, we are servant of Krsna, we want to serve. But that

should be regulated. That should be regulated. That is initiation.


Madhudvisa: Srila Prabhupada, you were speaking about Sravanam

kirtanam visnoh smaranam, that any one of these principles, if

executed, is sufficient. Now, some devotees may take this to mean that

they simply can chant Hare Krsna and don’t have to do anything else

like temple duties or readings or…

Prabhupada: That means he is not chanting Hare Krsna. Because if he is

actually chanting Hare Krsna, he must be enthusiastic to serve Krsna

more and more. This is an excuse. Utsahan dhairyat

tat-tat-karma-pravar… He must be very enthusiastic. Therefore we

have limited. If you are chanting Hare Krsna, if you are so advanced,

then chant Hare Krsna twenty-four hours. But he will sleep. (makes

snoring noise) (laughter) So in the name of chanting Hare Krsna, you

will sleep. And if you are actually chanting Hare Krsna, you will be

enthusiastic, “Oh, I shall serve. I shall…” That is effect. Phalena

pariciyate. We have to see by the result. He should be enthusiastic

more and more. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. It will increase. The service

attitude will increase. Therefore we have given all the nine items

sometimes here, sometimes there, sometimes here, but all Krsna’s.

Actually recommended, all the nine, but even one is accepted

sincerely, that also give perfection. That is another thing. But

actually, we should accept all the nine items: Sravanam kirtanam visnu

smaranam pada-sevanam, arcanam… And All right. Yes?

Devotee (3): How is it possible that Tulasi-devi is a pure devotee,

what we might call a plant?

Prabhupada: That you cannot know in your impure state. You just become

pure. You will understand. (laughter) Just like a physician, he can

understand another physician, what is his position. The layman, what

he can understand? If you say, physician, “Oh, how I can understand

this physician?” How you can understand? You are not a physician. You

become a physician, then you will understand what kind of physician he

  1. is. So when you become devotee, you will understand what kind of

devotee is Tulasi. So long you are not devotee, you cannot understand.

Don’t expect. Therefore we have to accept the authority. That is

beginning. Sastra says, “Tulasi is the greatest devotee of Krsna.” We

have to accept, that’s all. Authority. How she is so great devotee,

that you will understand when you become a devotee. You come to the

platform; then you will understand, not before. Now chant. (kirtana)

(Prabhupada leads prema-dhvani) (end)

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So we have been discussing for the last few days how to become free

from the reaction of our sinful life. That is real problem. But

people, they have no knowledge what is life, what is sinful life, what

is pious life, why we are put into this condition that “We have to do

this; we haven’t got to do that.” This is real philosophy of life. The

asuras, as we were discussing in this morning walk, they do not know

  1. Asuras… Pravrttim ca nivrttim ca na vidur asurah janah. We are

living… In the ordinary life also, we live a little carefully so

that we may not fall sick. For that purpose there is very vigilance in

the immigration department that in Australia we had some nice mangoes

brought from Bombay, and they did not allow to take it. They thought

this mango is more dangerous than the dry meat. They will allow

importation of dry meat, three hundred years old, (laughter) put into

the regrigerator, and that is imported. That is not infectious. But

mango, very nice mango, fresh mango–we started in Bombay at night,

and we came in the morning, it has become poisonous. So we are so much

precautious that not any germs, infectious disease, may enter. That is

there. But what is that infection which has caused me to accept this

material body again and again? That they do not know. That they do not

know. They do not believe in the next life, and therefore asurah

janah. This is, the symptom or characteristic of the asurah janah. You

should be precautious. That is natural. We become precautious, that

“We should not do this so that I may not fall sick.” But we do not

know what is our real sickness. That we do not know.

That is being presented by Krsna in the Bhagavad-gita, that “This

is your sickness, real sickness.” What is that?

Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. You are trying to be

unaffected by all kinds of sickness, but your real sickness is this

material disease: you take birth, you die, you become old, and you

suffer from diseases. This is your real sickness. But who is caring

for this? Where is the scientist who are investigating how to stop

death, how to stop birth. They are, of course, investigating how to

stop birth, but still, birth is going on. This sort of stopping

births, by killing the body, is not stopping because the body is not

the person. The real person is within the body, within the body.

Dehino ‘smin yatha dehe. We have explained. That they do not know.

They are taking… No. By killing the body or by protecting the body,

…that is not the solution. The solution is that the living entity has

infected itself with the material disease. It has to be cured. That is

the whole purpose of Vedic civilization, how to cure your material


…Sukadeva Gosvami suggested, prayascittam vimarsanam. Vimarsanam means

to become sober and think that “Why I cannot check my desire to do

sinful activities?” Then he suggested, to come to that understanding

he requires good brain. Ordinary brain, they cannot understand that

“Why I am forced to act sinfully although after doing that I suffer? I

have committed theft. I am suffer…, I go to jail. Again I come out.”

So therefore it is called vimarsanam.

So for vimarsanam–means to become sober–you require practicing

the tapasya. That is also, we have discussed.

tapasa brahmacaryena

samena ca damena ca

tyagena satya-sauchym yamena niyamena va

A series of practice. Then the brain will be clear. So this process

also–not very safe. The example has been given that ksipanty agham

mahad api venu-gulmam ivanalah. It is something like burning, setting

fire into the dry grass. And superficially it appears that all the

grasses are now burned into ashes; there is no possibility of coming

out. No. Therefore this very word is there, iva analah. Although

superficially, outside, it appears that everything is burned, but the

root remains there. The root remains there, and as soon as there will

be facility or there will be rainy season, the same grasses and twigs

and other things will come out again, new growth. That is… Even

after so much tapasya… There are many instances. Just like

Visvamitra Muni. Visvamitra Muni was a king. He wanted to become a

brahmana, and he practiced mystic yoga for many years. Still, he

became a victim of a woman, Menaka. He was meditating, closing eyes,

and Indra sent this woman, Menaka. And simply by hearing the sound of

the bangles, ching, ching, ching, “Oh, there is woman. Yes, very

nice,” (laughter) all mystic yoga finished. Then he begot one

daughter. That…, her name is Sakuntala, the famous beautiful

daughter. So that history is there.

So the root of our material enjoyment cannot be taken away, cannot

be uprooted by… The first process is called karma, and the second

process is called jnana, and the next, it is suggested, bhakti. So he

is suggesting that kecit. People are more inclined to take to the…

Those who are absolutely in the rotten condition of life, not for

then, but those who are little above the rotten condition… Animals.

Rotten condition of, means like animals, cats and dogs. Above them,

human life, they take to pious activities or meditation or mystic yoga

process, just to purify. So these processes are not sufficient.

Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami is suggesting next, kecit. That kecit word

is very significant. Kecit means somebody, somebody. Who are the

somebody? Kecit kevalaya bhaktya, pure devotional service. And how

they become? Vasudeva-parayanah. They become Krsna conscious. Krsna

conscious person or vasudeva-parayanah, the same thing. Vasudeva means

Krsna, that “Simply I shall worship Krsna,” kevalaya, “nothing else.”

This firm conviction and steadiness will save you without any doubt,

this conviction. Vasudeva-parayanah. Then what is that

vasudeva-parayanah? That is also not very easy thing. Krsna, Vasudeva,

says, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate.

Vasudeva-parayanah and jnanavan mam…, the same thing. When one is

fully in awareness what is what, then That awareness also

comes–bahunam janmanam ante, after many many thousands of births,

bahunam janmanam ante, jnan…, when he is actually jnanavan, that

“What I am, what is my duty,” that is actually jnanavan mam

prapadyate. So vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhah. After

many, many births, when he comes to this, understand that “Vasudeva,

Krsna, is everything. So let me. Krsna also asking me to surrender.

Let me do it immediately,” that is called vasudeva-parayanah.

In another place, Bhagavata, it is said that,

vasudeve bhagavati

bhakti-yogah prayojitah

janayaty asu vairagyam

jnanam ca yad ahaitukam

Those who have become vasudeva-parayanah and engages himself in the

service, for them, janayaty asu vairagyam, very soon they become

detestful to all this material way of life.

That is the test. How much one has advanced in Krsna consciousness,

one can test himself that “How much I have become detestful, all this

material way of life?” Everyone can test himself. If he has got still

some inclination, then he is not fully Krsna conscious. He has to work

very hard, how to become fully Krsna conscious, chant Hare Krsna. Then

it is possible. So that is called vasudeva-para. Vasudeva-parayanah is

not so easy. Therefore it is said, kecit. Kecit means “maybe

somebody.” It is not for all. And Krsna also says in the

Bhagavad-gita… Who is vasudeva-parayanah? Who knows Vasudeva, who

knows Krsna. So He says, manusyanam sahasresu: “Out of millions of

persons,” manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye, “somebody is

trying to make his life perfect.” Everyone is being carried away by

the waves of this material nature: “Eat, drink, be merry and enjoy.”

But that is not siddhi. That is imperfection. If you are carried away

by the waves of these material necessities, then it is not siddhi. One

has to become siddha. Siddha means one who understand that “What I am

and what is my duty.” That is siddha, perfect. Not… That is the

beginning of perfection. So manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati

siddhate. That siddha, perfection of life, is also not for everyone.

Somebody out of millions. And Krsna said, yatatam api siddhanam:

Those who are siddhas, those who have attained perfection, if they

are trying to understand Me, maybe one or two may understand.” Yatatam

api siddhanam kascit vetti mam tattvatah. Therefore it is said that to

become vasudeva-parayanah that is very very rare. Therefore it is said

kecit, “somebody out of many millions.”

So one may ask, “If it is so difficult to become Krsna conscious,

so how so many people are becoming Krsna conscious? They are not

genuine? They are all false? If it is said kecit?” No, they are not

false. They are amongst these kecit, amongst those rare persons, those

who have become Krsna conscious. How? It is due to Caitanya

Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has descended to distribute Krsna.

That is His mercy. So by the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so many

people are becoming vasudeva-parayanah. But otherwise, it is not

possible. Therefore we first offer our obeisances to Guru-Gauranga, by

whose mercy we get Krsna. This is the system. Adau gurvasrayam. Now,

Caitanya Mahaprabhu is so kind. Rupa Gosvami could understand, could


namo maha-vadanyaya

krsna-prema-pradaya te

krsnaya krsna-caitanya

namne gaura-tvise namah

He understood, confidential devotee, Rupa Gosvami, “O my Lord, You are

the same Krsna. Now You have appeared as Krsna-Caitanya, and Your

business is to distribute love of Krsna, not only Krsna, but love of


So this is Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mercy that you are becoming Krsna

conscious. Otherwise, it is not so easy thing; very, very difficult.

Kecit kevalaya bhaktya. So stick to this principle. Chant

sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda sri-advaita gadadhara

srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. By their favor, by their mercy, we can

chant Hare Krsna. And as soon as we chant Hare Krsna, we are

vasudeva-parayanah. There is no more fear. That is required. So you

stick to this principle, do not forget. We have already given our ways

and instruction. So don’t deviate from it. Then everything is perfect

and your life is successful.

Thank you