SB classes Vol #8– part two
June 12, 2015 in Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa
Sb class vol 8 part 2
Hare Krnsa to all
Pranams
All glories to Prabhupada
Below we give a few tidbits of the nectar contained with in this file of
SB classes given by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhudpada
- Before leaving your body, you must be self realized to go back home.
- Without vairagya or renunciation there is no happiness in this world
- One brahmana blessed Mahaprabhu-you will never be happy in household life
- Real guru must be in Krsnas confidence and be able to draw from the ocean of Mercy
- Bhakti and Karma looks the same-here is the difference
- Explanation of difference in time between earth and heavenly planets
- Inter- planetary Eagles that eat elephants
- A devotee in Goloka can become a flower and then change into human form
- And much more……
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But here Krsna as Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Krsna as
Rsabhadeva, Krsna as Krsna Himself, They are teaching us how to become
pure devotee, because sva kalevaram jihasur atmanah. Before leaving
your, this body, you must be self-realized. That is the aim of life.
Bahunam janmanam ante. We have got this life, human form of life, and
how to utilize this human form of life? How to achieve the
vairagya-vidya? This is vairagya-vidya, no more interest in material
things. That is vairagya-vidya. Even to the body. That is…
Rsabhadeva is teaching us. This is vairagya-vidya. Bhakti-yoga means
vairagya. Caitanya Mahaprabhu also has spoken the same thing,
niskincanasya bhagavad bhajanonmukhasya. Niskincanasya. If you
actually want to become a pure devotee, then you have to make this
material way of life completely zero. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Then it
will be possible. If you have still a pinch of attraction for material
life, then it will be stopped, your promotion to the other, spiritual
world. Simply attachment to Krsna, that will make you advanced.
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So anyone who has accepted this material world as very
comfortable… It is not comfortable; it is simply suffering. Krsna
says, duhkhalayam asasvatam. And still, if we want to be happy in this
material world, bahir-artha-maninah. These fools, they are trying to
be happy within this material world. Material means external energy.
Bahir-artha-maninah. Na te viduh svartha gatim hi visnum durasaya.
This is durasaya, the hope which will never be fulfilled. But this we
do not… Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan. So unless there is
vairagya, there is no question of happiness. But we cannot attain
vairagya immediately; therefore the vidhi-marga, vidhi-marga-bhakti,
to rise early in the morning, to attend mangala arati, to offer Deity
flowers, fruits, and in this way we shall be engaged twenty-four
hours. Then vairagya-vidya will gradually develop. Anarthopasamam
saksad bhakti-yogam adhoksaje. Then the anartha… This material life
is simply anartha, has no meaning, because we are creating another
life. Without any spiritual knowledge, if we simply give ourself to
the action and reaction of material nature, then we are making
progress on the path of mrtyu- samsara vartmani. And if we attain
Krsna, then mam upetya kaunteya duhkhalayam asasvatam, napnuvanti. The
two ways.
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Caitanya Mahaprabhu, to receive some blessings from the brahmanas, when He was
boy He was voluntarily trying to give some service to the brahmanas
who were engaged in bathing in the Ganges. He’ll clear the place
because the brahmana, after taking bath in the Ganges, would sit down,
would chant mantra. So He’ll cleanse and He’ll wash the cloth, and
in… Voluntarily He was doing that, service. So one brahmana blessed
Him, “My dear boy, You’ll be very happy in your family life. You’ll
have good wife, very opulent position.” And Caitanya Mahaprabhu was
blocking the ears. The brahmana said, “What is this?” “No, this is not
blessing, sir.” “Oh, it is not blessing? Then You’ll never be happy in
Your family life.” “Yes, this is the…” (laughter) “This is all
right.” So therefore He took sannyasa. Arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam.
Similarly, Lord Ramacandra, arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam. These are
the characteristic of the Personality of Godhead. Try to follow Them,
not imitate, but follow them.
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Similarly, the mercy cloud, karunya, karuna,
ghanaghanatvam… So just like ordinary cloud is made possible by
evaporating water from the sea, similarly, Krsna has the sea of mercy,
karunayamaya, karuna-sagara. Krsna’s another name is Karuna-sagara. So
as the air evaporate or the heat evaporate from the sea, and the cloud
is formed in the sky, similarly, one who has connection or the power
to evaporate the mercy sea of Krsna, he can extinguish the samsara
davanala. And that is guru. Guru is the cloud or he is the agent of
drying water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna and turn it into a mercy
cloud and pour water on the samsara davanala, and then it is
extinguished. Samsara davanala-lidha-loka-tranaya
karunya-ghanaghanatvam, praptasya kalyana.
Therefore guru must be authorized person, not that
bhumi-phala-guru(?). No. “I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru
unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of
mercy of Krsna. That is guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary
person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krsna.
Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung, krsna se tomara, krsna dite para:
“Vaisnava Thakura, Krsna is your property. If you like, you can give.”
Vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau. You cannot get Krsna by
studying Vedas. That is not possible. There is Krsna in the Vedas, but
you cannot pick up. It is not possible. But if you go to the Krsna’s
favorite person… Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Krsna’s very
dear servant, confidential servant, is guru. Nobody can become guru
unless he is in confidence of Krsna. Na ca tasmad manusyesu kascid me
priya-krttamah. These things are there. Not that by magic one can
become guru. No. .
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cannot be changed. God’s word cannot be changed. Then what will be the
difference between God and ourself? He is always perfect. He is always
perfect. What He said forty millions of years ago, what He said five
thousand years ago, that is also correct up to date. That is sastra.
Not that “So many years have passed and it has become old. Now let us
reform it and put it into new way.” No. You can put the same thing in
a new way, but you cannot change the principle. Sadhu sastra
guru-vakya, tinete kariya aikya. Sastra is never changed. And the
sadhu… Sadhu means who follows the sastras. He is sadhu. He also
does not change. Sadhu, sastra. And guru? Guru means who follows the
sastra and sadhu. So there are three, the same. A guru will not
change, that “It was spoken five thousand years ago. That is not
applicable now. Now I am giving you something new, jugglery.” He is
useless. Sadhu sastra guru-vakya tinete kariya aikya. Yah
sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama karatah, na siddhim avapnoti. These
things are there.
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Sometimes bhakti is observed as similar to the activities of the
karmis, but there is difference. One is bhakti, one is going back to
home, back to Godhead; and the other is going forward to the hellish
condition of life by the same activities. This is the technique. How
it is possible? It is possible. By practical example, it is said in
the sastras… Just like if you take more quantity of milk
preparation, you get diarrhea. But the same milk preparation, yogurt,
is there. It will stop diarrhea. Both of them are milk preparation.
One has created the disease diarrhea, and another is stopping
diarrhea. So why? Cikirsitam. One is by medical process and the other
is without any medical process. The medical process is to satisfy
Krsna. Here the building is being constructed to satisfy Krsna. To
satisfy Krsna. And in other places the building is constructed to
satisfy senses. This is the difference, material and spiritual.
Material means to satisfy one’s senses. Nunam pramattah kurute
vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti. Karma means they are working very
hard like dogs and hogs, but the purpose is indriya-priti. Nunam
pramattah: they are mad. They should not… And why mad? Because the
karma means you are creating another body. And as soon as there is
another body, dehantara-praptir, so long you have got this material
body, you’ll suffer. That is the law of nature. Karmanu bandhah. Yavan
priti mayi deve… tavat karmanu bandhanah. The karmanu-bandha will
continue. Therefore in the sastra it is recommended, yajnarthe karma
anyatra karma-bandhanah. Don’t act anything except for the
satisfaction of Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. If you do
anything for your sense gratification, that means you are being bound
up by the laws of karma. Laws of karma, it is very strict according to
the modes of activities. Purusah prakrti-stho hi bhunkte karma-jan
gunan.
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But at the present moment people are so
engrossed with material affairs that they are not interested even to
hear or to talk about Krsna consciousness. That is not a very good
sign. It is the feverish condition of durbhiksa. That is mentioned in
the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that people in general, when they come to the
point of suffering from natural law, then they will revive their
nitya-siddha krsna-bhakti. So therefore, as I was speaking in this
morning, we have to elevate the human civilization from a platform
which is on equal level with hog civilization. We should very
carefully study and try to know whether the advancement of
civilization which we have accepted is genuine. No. It is not genuine.
It is misleading. Our aim of life is not to get a comfortable life for
few years. Actually, there is no comfortable life. Still, we consider
and forget our real business, self-realization. Apasyatam atma-tattvam
grhesu grha-medhinam.
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trees and plants, not moving. Then they move–flies, grasshoppers. And
they turn into birds again, very freely flying. And there are many,
many big birds in the sky, eagles. Some of the eagles, you have got
experience. There are monkey-eating eagles. They capture the monkey.
And there are eagles elephant-eating. (laughter) We get all this
information. Elephant, they will capture elephant and take it away.
(laughter) Just imagine. It is no joking. This is a fact.
So there are so many birds, eagle birds, they fly, and they go from
one planet to another. They are resting… Just like a bird you see,
they fly from one tree to another tree. So their resting place is one
planet to another. Just see. You are trying to go to the moon planet
bogusly. I’ll say bogusly because you could not go there. The moon
planet is far away from the sun planet. So it is not possible to go
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blood and urines and stool and kapha and mucus and so many things, if
we consider this body as “I am, the soul,” do you mean to say that is
very good knowledge? No. That is go-kharah. Go-kharah means animal. Go
means cow and kharah means ass. So these animal think like that, “I am
this body.” And if a man thinks like that, he is no better than the
animal. That is not possible. Do you mean to say by combination of
this blood, flesh, bones, urine, and stool and so many other things,
you can, by combination, make a person like big scientist,
philosopher, mathematician, by combination of these ingredients? Is it
possible? Then there are much quantity of blood and flesh and this in
the slaughterhouse. You bring and mix with them stool and urine and
make a Professor Einstein. (laughter) You are advanced scientist. You
bring this ingredient and make a very intelligent man. So this is all
foolishness. Sa eva go-kharah. Anyone who thinks this body as the
self, then he is in the animal kingdom. One, if anyone wants spiritual
knowledge, he first of all know what is spirit, then spiritual
knowledge. If you have no idea of spirit, what is the value of your
spiritual knowledge? There is no value. Sa eva go-kharah.
So this Krsna consciousness movement is giving that enlightenment,
that you are not this body.
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If you want to go to the higher planetary system where the demigods
live, you can go there. Therefore the karmis, by performing Vedic
ritualistic ceremonies, they want elevation to the higher planetary
system where the life, prolongation of life is very, very big. As we
have got day and night, in the higher planetary system the waxing and
waning moon, then when the moon is present there and the sky is in
light, that is the day of the higher planetary system. And when the
moon is dark, that is the night. That means our fifteen days, in the
higher planetary system–twelve hours. Just imagine their year. And
such ten thousands of years you can live if you can go to the moon
planet. The day and night, fifteen days, your fifteen days, is equal
to their one day. No, twelve hours. That means your one month is their
one day. Now calculate one day, then thirty days, one month. Then
twelve months equal to one year. Such ten thousands of years. Just
imagine. You can go there and live like that, yanti deva-vrata devan,
if you like. But that is not eternal life. After that long period, you
have to die. So Krsna says
janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. You are trying to avoid
all kinds of miserable condition, but your real miserable condition is
your birth, death, old age, and disease. Try to avoid it. That is
perfection. That is spiritual life.
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Devotee (1): Srila Prabhupada, you were saying that because the body
has arms and legs, then the coat has a similar shape. Then does the
spirit soul that’s within our body have arms and legs like that?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Devotee (1): Would the spirit soul that is within, say, a cow’s body,
is in a different shape?
Prabhupada: Yes. It has got also legs. But the shape has taken
according to his desire. Every animal has got these four things. Just
like bird, it has got two wings, two legs. The animal has got four
legs. And the man has got two hands, two legs. So the same parts of
the body, they are appearing in a different type. But the four limbs
of the body are there. Hm?
Devotee (2): Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?
Madhudvisa: The question is that whether the eternal form of the
spirit soul is a human form or is it…
Prabhupada: Yes, human form. God is also human form. “Man is made
after the shape of God.” I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So
God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs.
Hari-sauri: How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and
flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?
Prabhupada: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your
body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not
the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are
not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of
the soul.
Hari-sauri: They are covered in the spiritual world?
Madhudvisa: He is asking if they were actually covered in the
spiritual world as well.
Prabhupada: Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some
devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I
want that “As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna,”
he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his…, from flower
to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If
some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as
calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father,
as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yatha mam prapadyante
tams tathaiva bhajamy aham. That is Krsna’s all-powerfulness,
spiritual life.
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Prabhupada: Initiation is the third stage. First stage is that… Just
like you have come. This is called sraddha, faith, little faith, not
full faith. Then you have to increase this faith by association of
devotee. That is required. And when the faith is increased, then the
question of initiation. Initiation should not be immediately offered.
That will be misused. Therefore when we initiate, we inquire from the
head of the temple, “How long he is coming? What is his behavior?” If
he certifies that “Yes, he is doing nice,” then we initiate. Our
initiation is not so cheap, “You come and be initiated.” No, we do not
do that. We must test you first of all. Then we initiate.
Madhudvisa: His question was that can you take initiation by accepting
the spiritual master in your heart without actually taking…
Prabhupada: These are bogus proposition. It has no meaning. (laughter)
It has no meaning. If you think within yourself, “I am eating,” will
you be satisfied? You starve and simply think, “I have eaten
everything.” (laughter) Is that very practical proposal? You must eat.
We don’t say all these bogus proposition. All right. Thank you very
much. (end)
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the same thing, as cats and dogs are trying. The cats and dogs, they
are also trying to find out where it is, food, where sleeping comfort,
where sex life, and where defense. If the human form of life is also
utilized for this purpose, pravrtti-marga, then it is, as I was
talking in the park, it is just like using sandalwood for burning
fuel. There is distinction even in wood. There are so many jungle
wood, we can use it for cooking. But if the sandalwood, which is so
valuable, if we do not know what is the value of sandalwood, if we use
it for cooking and burning… Similarly, if we use this human form of
life exactly like the cats and dogs, simply for sense gratification,
then we are committing suicide.
The whole Vedic civilization means how to utilize this human form
of life for better purposes. Even modern scientific point of view. Not
scientific, but they say. Accepting their version… Just like
Darwin’s theory: by evolution you come to the human form of life.
what is after this form? Then they have no information. …
Accepting that from monkey one becomes a human being, so what next life? If
the evolution is… That is also accepted in the Padma Purana,
8,400,000 species, forms of life, and then we come to this human form
of life. What is next? That is the question. But they have no
knowledge. They have no sense. They cannot explain what is next. And
there is next life. If by evolutionary process through the channel of
so many species of life, 900,000 aquatics. Jalaja nava-laksani
sthavara laksa… Two millions trees and plants, then 1100,000
insects, and one million species of birds, and then 33,000,000 species
of animals, four-legged animals, pasu. And then we get this human form
of life, especially civilized form of life. Then what is next? That
question nobody inquires, neither there is answer by the so-called
modern scientist, that what is next.
But the answer is there. Answer is there in the Vedic literature
that there is higher planetary system.
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catus-padam. The animals which has no leg–that means which cannot
move… The plants, the grass, the trees, they cannot move. They have
got leg, but they cannot move. Their legs are made for eating. As your
mouth is made for eating, the trees… Therefore they are called
pada-pa. They drink water by the leg. This is God’s creation. You
cannot think that how it is possible to drink water by the leg, but it
is God’s creation. You see. You pour water on the leg of the tree; it
becomes very luxuriant, healthy. So different. And so far God is
concerned, He can eat with legs; He can see with hands; He can eat
with eyes. That is God. That is God. Angani yasya
sakalendriya-vrttimanti pasyanti panti kalayanti ciram jaganti.
Angani, that is transcendental. He is not under any rule. He is not
under any rule. If you say, “Why Krsna is eating by the eyes?” yes,
that is Krsna. That is Krsna. If you offer something, Krsna, simply by
seeing, He is eating. That is Krsna. And again if you say, “If He is
eating, why the plate is full?” that is Krsna. Purnasya purnam adaya
purnam evavasisyate. Krsna is not a hungry man like me, that “If you
give Me something, I will eat everything, finished.” No. Krsna can
take the whole plate; still it will remain the whole plate, for giving
prasadam.
So try to understand Krsna in this way. And if you actually
understand Krsna, you are liberated immediately. Janma karma ca divyam
me yo janati tattvatah. How Krsna eats, how Krsna thinks, how Krsna
works, if you understand all these things, then immediately you become
liberated. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti. You immediately
become. The only thing is we are rotting in this material world
because we do not know Krsna. That is the… You’ll not be admitted in
the spiritual kingdom unless you know Krsna, what He is. And as soon
as you understand Krsna, you are fit–”
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Madhudvisa: We have been here for many lifetimes performing sinful
activities. So is it possible to counteract all those sinful
activities in one lifetime, or does it require many…?
Prabhupada: One minute. That is Krsna consciousness movement. One
minute. You are not reading Bhagavad-gita? What Krsna says?
Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja, aham tvam
sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami: “You surrender unto Me. Give up your all
business. I will give you relief from all sinful reaction
immediately.” So it requires one minute. “My dear Krsna, I was
forgotten. Now I understand. I fully surrender unto you.” Then you
become immediately free from all sinful reactions. Without any
reservation, without any politics, if you fully surrender, Krsna is
assuring, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah. He
reassures, “Don’t worry whether I will be able to give you relief from
all reaction.” Ma sucah. “Finished, guaranteed. You do this.” So how
much time it requires to surrender to Krsna? Immediately you can do
that. Surrender means you surrender and work as Krsna says. That is
surrender. What Krsna says to do? Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji
mam namaskuru. Four things: “You always think of Me, and you become My
devotee, you worship Me, and offer your respect, full obeisances unto
Me.” You do these four things? That is full surrender. Mam evaisyasi
asamsaya: “Then you come to Me without any doubt.” Everything is
there. Krsna has given everything fully. If you accept it, then life
is very simple. There is no difficulty. Yes?
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We understand that we are trying to be happy.
Actually, this material world, there is no happiness, but to
counteract the agency of distress, we accept, “That is happiness. That
is happiness.” Just like I have no apartment, but to counteract this
inconvenience, if I try my utmost to get a good apartment I feel, “Oh,
now I am happy. I am happy.” What is this happiness? How long you
shall remain in this apartment? Suppose you have got, purchased, now
long you will live? So here happiness means to counteract the force of
distress is called happiness. Actually there is no happiness. This is
called maya. Just like I am in distressed condition, puzzled, I take
some intoxication. This is called happiness. I remain in the same
condition. After my intoxication is over, I come back again into the
same condition, but I am thinking (I am) happy. This is called maya.
Maya means… Ma means “not,” ya means “this.” “You are thinking like
this, but it is not this.” This is called maya. You are thinking that
you are happy, but you are not happy. So we are seeing that a criminal
is arrested by the police and he is put into the prisonhouse. We know
that he is put into trouble, but still, in spite of seeing that “This
kind of criminality will put me also into such kind of distress,” but
still, I commit that thing. This is the influence of maya.
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You have read in the Caitanya-caritamrta that one Buddhimanta Khan,
he was formerly… He was very rich man and Nawab Hussain Shah was the
servant when he was not Nawab. So he was menial servant. So he stole
some money as servants are generally habituated. So he whipped him
with his cane. So that whipping stripe was on his back side. When he
was Nawab, so his wife saw it and inquired, “What is this scar?” So he
replied the whole story, that “I was formerly a menial servant to this
Buddhimanta Khan and I did something wrong. So as my father, he
punished me. That’s all. He was treating me as my son.” So he admitted
that he was so kind. But his wife said, “Oh, this scar is a
defamation. If somebody sees and you explain, then it will be known
that you were a menial servant previously.” So the Nawab did not mind.
He: “What is that? I may be… Now what I am, that’s all.” So the wife
requested that “This man should be killed so that he may not disclose
the secret of your life, that you were a menial servant in his house.”
And “No, no, no. This is… This cannot be. He is just like my father.
How can I kill him? This is not possible.” And just see. Then she
advised, “At least make him Mohammedan. Convert him to be a
Mohammedan.” In those days it was not very difficult. If somebody, a
Mohammedan, takes water from his water pot and simply sprinkle in
somebody’s body, he becomes Mohammedan. The Hindu society was so
rascal. Still they are. Simply by sprinkling water from the pot of a
Mohammedan he becomes Mohammedan. So this Nawab said, “All right, I
shall sprinkle water. Let him do what he likes,” to satisfy his wife.
So he did it. When he did it–then the society was so strong–he went
to the bhattacarya to consult: “Oh, sir, I have been sprinkled water
by a Mohammedan. So what prayascitta?” What is called? What is the
English of prayascitta, compensation?
Revatinandana: Some penance.
Prabhupada: No, no. Atonement. “So what kind of atonement I have to
do?” So the bhattacarya advised him that “You take one kilo of lead
and melt it and drink it, and that is your atonement.” You see? So he
said, “How it is possible?” “This is the atonement for such sinful
activity. Yes.” Just see. For the last five hundred, six hundred
years… Why…? For thousands of years the Hindu society is so
fallen. Therefore so many Mohammedans have increased here. They are
not imported. In this way the Hindu population, they have been forced
to accept Mohammedan religion. You see? By the Mohammedans. Just like
Aurangzeb. He imposed one tax for the Hindus. So all the poor men
class, to avoid the tax they became Mohammedans. And there was so much
punishment by the Hindus. And so he became a Mohammedan, so-called
Mohammedan, by the diagnosis of the bhattacarya. So this kind of
prayascitta was current during the fallen days of the Vedic society.
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You become Krsna conscious and commit all sinful
activities, Krsna will give me protection.” And that will create
certainly atheism: “What is this bogus thing?” But that does not
mean… So, you surrender to Krsna. Krsna takes charge of your past
sinful activities. But that does not mean that I shall remain Krsna
conscious, at the same time I shall go on committing sin. This, for
this facility, if anyone takes to Krsna consciousness, that is most
sinful, that “I shall take to Krsna consciousness because whatever
sinful activities I shall do, it will be counteracted by Krsna.” So
that will create certainly atheism, that “What is this bogus talk?” Do
you follow? Yes. But that is not meant for.
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Prabhupada: Climate also. The climate is very favorable. Now it is, of
course, winter season. Otherwise, it will continue for two months
only. It is not very severe, and still, this condition will not
continue. Throughout the whole year you can remain naked body. There
is no expenditure for dressing much. And to remain clean, you simply
wash in the water, and immediately it is… So with one cloth or two
cloths you can go on for six months. There is no much expenditure. And
this vegetarian diet, if you take a few grains of this chick pea and
little milk, you don’t require anything to eat. Everything, facility,
is there still. But they have… The people are being trained up to
imitate Western civilization. That is the government policy, that,
“Unless you become Westernized, technologist, you’ll not be happy.”
But they can become happy even in this condition. This artificial
partition has caused some trouble by the Britishers because the
Pakistan has taken away all the wheat and rice. Their purpose was
that. The Punjab side, they are producing wheat in very large
quantity. In Bengal, that is the, perhaps the biggest rice producing
country in the world, Bengal. So rice is in Pakistan and wheat is in
Pakistan. Even cows, they were maintained by the Punjabis, big, big
cows, milk-producing. They are now in the Punjab. So there is no milk,
there is no rice, there is no wheat. And they have no sugar. The sugar
is produced this side. In this way, always. And the Kashmir
question… That is British policy. Due to this partition only,
India’s position is now very crippled. And these rascal leaders, they
accepted partition for becoming prime minister. This policy. Gandhi
never agreed. So the Jawaharlal Nehru, in order to become prime
minister, he committed such a blunder. Therefore India is given…
Still, if they keep to their original culture, they will not be
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the temple. Tan-mandira-marjanadau. Don’t think that if one is engaged
in the Deity worship and if one is engaged in the gardening work there
is distinction. No. The one who is working as a gardener, he is as
good as the one who is dressing the Deity, because it is Absolute
plane. There is no difference between… Just like in the material
world, if one is working as manager and the other is working as menial
servant, there is difference of pay or difference of service. No. In
the spiritual world there is no such thing. In the spiritual world
even a small ant who is serving Krsna by chance… Suppose if there is
an ant and the flower is thrown into the lotus feet of Krsna and the
ant kisses the lotus feet of Krsna, he is as good as the pujari. This
is spiritual world. So we should give everyone chance how to serve
Krsna. Then he will remain on the upper platform. Samatitya. Atitya
mean transcending. Etan gunan. Etan gunan means because the material
world is complicated with the modes of material nature, so this is
called guna. So anyone who is engaged constantly in devotional
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things will be cleansed. For example, you can see practically all my
disciples present there. They are coming from Western countries,
Europe, America, or even in India, Parsis and other, Mohammedans, they
are coming. But they are now pure, cleansed of all dirty things. In
this movement throughout the whole world there are at least ten to
twelve thousand devotees like that. And before this life they were
addicted to all kinds of sinful life. We have summarized all sinful
activities into four groups, namely, illicit sex, meat-eating,
intoxication, and gambling. So all these ten to twelve thousand men
who are now attached with this Krsna consciousness movement, they are
not commiting these four pillars of sinful life.
Therefore our request is that you take to this chanting method. It
is very easy, Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama
Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, and gradually you shall become free
from all sinful reaction of life. But one thing we must be very
careful, that we should not commit again sinful life. If you chant
Hare Krsna mantra, you become free immediately from all sinful
reaction. But if you commit again sinful life, that is your
responsibility. This is warned very… Amongst the ten kinds of
offenses, one offense is very (sic:) grievious offense–namnad balad
yasya hi papa-buddhih–if one thinks that “I am chanting Hare Krsna;
therefore whatever sinful acts I am doing, it is becoming
counteracted.” If you keep yourself on the platform of chanting Hare
Krsna mantra and do not commit willfully again sinful life, then you
are liberated. [this means chanting without offenses]So not only mukti-marga, if you keep yourself always pure, do not commit any sinful activity and chant Hare Krsna mantra,
then your life is successful. Don’t commit the mistake of the elephant
that take bath thoroughly and again come and throw dust on your body.
I think I shall end tonight this here. Thank you very much. (end)
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Because Mayavadi philosophers, they are very much,I
mean to say, careful, that “My salvation may…, may…, may not be
interrupted. If I go to preach, and in association with others, if I
fall down, then my business will be finished.” So they do not come.
Only Vaisnava comes at the risk of their falldown. They do not fall
down, but they go even to the hell to deliver. So Prahlada, this is
Prahlada Maharaja’s admission. He says that na udvije: “I’m not very
much anxious or perturbed because I am living in this material world.”
Naivodvije para duratyaya-vaitaranyah. Vaitaranyah means this hellish
condition of life, how to cross the river of hellish condition of
life. So “I have no anxiety for that.”
…that does not solve the problem. You have manufactured cars. I have
practical experience. When Dayananda wanted to take me to a doctor
from Los Angeles, it is thirty miles off. Thirty miles off. So I had
to take trouble to go thirty miles and come thirty miles before I
could consult the doctor. You see? And if you have created cars, then
you must have meet your friends and necessities thirty miles off,
forty miles off. You can go from New York to Boston in one hour, but
go to the airport you will take three hours. (laughter) Therefore it
is called maya-sukhaya. (laughter) Maya means false, illusory. We are
trying to create some very comfortable situation, but creating another
uncomfortable situation. This is called maya-su… This is the way
of… If you do not be satisfied by the natural comforts offered by
God, or nature, if you want to create artificial comfort, then you
have to create another discomfort for counteracting. They do not know
that. They are thinking that “We are creating very comfortable
situation.” Fifty miles going to the office. For earning livelihood,
fifty miles, from one place to another. I saw in Hawaii. When
Gaurasundara was working to maintain our temple, he was working.
Unfortunately, he had to go fifty miles off from the temple to work
for it. So I was very sorry to see how this boy is going fifty miles.
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many others… So He is always in association of His assistants, who
are assisting Him in propagating the sankirtana movement. Gaurangera
sangi-gane, nitya-siddha bhoi mane. Anyone who is preaching the
sankirtana movement is associate of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Sangopangastra… Just like Advaita Prabhu, Nityananda Prabhu helped,
similarly, anyone, even up to date, who is trying to help the
propagation of Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission, preach this sankirtana
movement all over the world, he is also associate of Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. Gaurangera sangi-gane nitya siddha boli mane. They are not
ordinary human being. Nitya siddha, ever liberated.
…you will be saved. Otherwise there is no saving. Tatha
dehantara-praptih. You will have to accept another body. And what is
that body? That is not stated. That will be decided at the end of your
life, at the time of your death, at the condition of your mind and
intelligence at that time. If, at that time, you are thinking of your
pet dog, “What will happen to my pet dog? How he will live? Let me
leave some of my property in his name,” (laughter) then you can leave
the dog with some property, but you are going to be dog. This is laws
of nature. You may love your dog very nicely and leave some property,
but where you are going, sir? That is under the nature’s law. You
cannot say that “I given so much property to the dog. Why shall I
accept the…?” No. Because your mind is absorbed in the thought of
dog, therefore you must take the dog’s body. This is nature’s law.
Therefore we have to train up our mind. Instead of dog, you must train
up your mind to think of God. Then you will be saved. Tyaktva deham
punar janma naiti mam.
…human being or demigod or cat or dog. These are all ordained. So you
cannot get out the living entity, soul, by force from that body. Then
you will be punishable. The living entity is never killed, but you
have no right to get him out from that body. That is sinful. If you
argue that “What is the harm if I kill one animal, because it is said,
na hanyate hanyamane sarire: ‘The living entity, soul, is never killed
even after the annihilation of this body’?” that is all right. But you
cannot force him. Just like if you get one person, by force, get out
from his apartment–he is not dying, of course, but still, it is
criminal because you are forcing to go out of the apartment. So that
is the law of nature. You cannot force anyone to get out of the body.
Then you are punishable.
…sinful.” So if he commits some sinful activity, he goes to a very
expert brahmana. They are called bhattacarya. They are especial…
Just like there are physicians for treatment of the disease, there are
highly learned brahmanas who are called bhattacaryas. People go there:
“Sir, I have committed this sin. What I have to do?” So they prescribe
that “You do like this.” So similarly, as we go to the physician, we
have to go to consult an expert learned brahmana, that “I have
committed…” But people used to understand that what is sinful and
what is pious. Now people are so downtrodden, so dull, mandah, that
they do not understand what is sinful, what is pious. They are going
on, doing all nonsense without any care. And there is no question of
consulting physician or learned brahmana.
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So atonement is prescribed in every scripture. Even in Christian
Bible there is atonement. So in other scriptures also there is
atonement. Just like a man who has committed murder, he must die.
“Life for life.” This is atonement. When the government punishes a
murderer with capital punishment, death, that is a mercy upon him.
That punishment is accepted practically all over the world from time
immemorial. So there must be atonement. So if a person who has
committed murder, killed somebody else, then if he is punished by
death, then the sinful activities which he has committed, that is
counteracted. Otherwise he will have to suffer next life very
severely, four times. So people do not believe even in the next life,
and what to speak of atonement and punishment. They are kept in
darkness. Otherwise they would have been… If they would have
followed actually the injunction of the sastras… First of all one
should not be killing anyone. In the Bible also it is said, “Thou
shall not kill.” Why it is forbidden? Because if he kills, he’ll have
to suffer. But they do not care for it. Therefore they suffer.
….something sinful by my mind, then we become affected. Therefore we
must keep always sinless. Kaya-mana-vakya. This sannyasa tridanda…
There are three rods within the stick or the cover, three dandas. Not
three, four. Three is kaya–body, mind, kaya, mana, and words, and one
he is personally. Therefore there are four sticks within the danda.
Those who have taken sannyasa, they know it. The idea is that “I
surrender to my spiritual master or Krsna.” Spiritual master is
identical with Krsna because he gives true knowledge. Therefore he is
as good as God. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha
bhavyata. A spiritual master is considered directly as the Supreme
…bodies according to my choice. This morning we were talking about the
sufferers, what is called? The sea suffers?
Devotees: Surfers.
Prabhupada: Surfer, yes. (devotees laugh) Surfer. I call “sufferer.”
“Sea-sufferer.” (laughter) Sea-surfer, it is practical because we are
creating a situation by which we shall become a fish. Yes.
Contamination. Just like if you purposely contaminate some disease you
must suffer from that disease. Karanam guna-sango ‘sya sad-asad
janma-yonisu, in the Bhagavad-gita. Why there are different varieties
of life? What is the reason? That reason means karanam. Krsna says in
… So there are three modes of material nature–goodness, passion, and
ignorance. So long we are in this material world, purusah prakrti-stho
‘pi bhunjante tad-gunan. If we remain in certain place, we must be
affected by the modes of that place. So there are three modes,
sattva-guna, rajo-guna. We have to associate either with the modes of
goodness or with the modes of passion or with the modes of ignorance.
.. guna-sango ‘sya. So the person who is taking very much pleasure,
dancing in the sea like fish, so he is contaminating that modes of
nature so that in next life he will become a fish. He’ll be very free
to dance with the ocean. (laughter) Now it will take again millions of
years to come to the stage of human being. Jalaja nava-laksani
sthavara laksa-vimsati. He has to pass through the fish life. There
are 900,000 different species of life. Then you again come to the
land–you become trees, plants, and so on. Two millions different
forms you have to go through. That is evolution. Darwin’s theory of
evolution, that is not perfectly explained. It is explained in the
Vedic literature. So just a tree is standing for ten thousands of
years, we had to pass through this life. But there is no perfect
knowledge. We are thinking we are now very nice American body or
Indian body. No. It took so many years to come to this life. Therefore
sastra says, labdhva sudurlabham idam bahu-sambhavante: “You have got
this human form of life after many, many millions of years’ waiting.”
So do not misuse it. That is Vedic civilization, not to misuse the
…the Pitrloka. If you want to remain here as human being, you can also
remain here, but you have to work for it to keep your position,
status. Just like if you become rich man, high standard of life, you
have to maintain it. Not that it will continue automatically. No, that
is not possible, sir. This material world is not like that: you get
one position and it will continue. No. A little discrepancy,
immediately deteriorate your position. So you have to maintain it.
…life. But our, this Krsna consciousness movement begins when you are
ready to surrender. That is beginning. Tad viddhi pranipatena.
Pranipat means surrender. Prakrsta-rupena nipata. “Yes, I surrender to
you.” That is the beginning. Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam
prapadyate. To learn the surrender, it will take many, many births.
Bahunam janmanam ante. But those who are intelligent, they will
surrender immediately. “Krsna says, ‘Surrender,’ and why not? Krsna is
the Supreme Lord. Let me surrender.” Then his life is successful
immediately. Within a second his life is successful. But we are not
prepared to surrender. That is our material disease. So if we do not
surrender to Krsna and take His instruction and make our life, that is
our choice. But if you like, you can make your life successful within
a moment simply by surrendering to Krsna.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya Prabhupada! (end)
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Young man: (yelling) Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Look what your
Godbrothers are doing. Prabhupada! Please help me, Prabhupada!
Prabhupada: What is that?
Devotees: There’s a crazy boy out there. Crazy man. Crazy man…
Young man: Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Devotees. Hypocrites.
They’re hypocrites. (devotees chant japa loudly)
Prabhupada: So office record is kept there…[he ignores him and just goes on]
Young man: You’re full of nescience!
Prabhupada: …and, according to the activities of that particular
person, he’s awarded promotion, increment of pay, or sometimes
degraded and fired off. Two things are there. Similarly, for all our
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Unless we come to the original consciousness, then we are crazy in
different degrees. Everyone who is not in Krsna consciousness, he is
to be supposed crazy because he is talking on a platform which is
temporary, transient. It will be finished. But we, as living entities,
we are eternal. So temporary business is not our business. Our
business should be eternal because we are eternal. And that eternal
business is how to serve Krsna. Just like this finger is the part and
parcel of my body, but the finger’s eternal business is how to serve
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thinking, “I am this, I am that.” But actual thinking should be “I am
Krsna’s.” That is Krsna consciousness. “I am Krsna’s.” And in Krsna
consciousness relationship, because Krsna is for everyone, therefore I
become everyone’s. Just try to understand. In India, the system is
when a girl is married to a boy, so–in your country also, everywhere,
the same system–just like the nephew of the boy calls the girl
“Aunt.” Now, how she becomes aunt? Because, in relationship with her
husband. Before the marriage, she was not aunt, but as soon as he
(she) is related with her husband, the husband’s nephew become the
nephew. Just try to understand the example. Similarly, if we
reestablish our relationship, or our original relationship with Krsna,
and Krsna is for everyone, therefore I become for everyone. That is
real universal love. The artificial, so-called universal love cannot
be established unless you have established your relationship with the
central point. Just like you are Americans. Why? Because you are born
in this land. So another American is a member of your country, but if
you become something else, then you have no relationship with another
American. So we have to reestablish our relationship with Krsna. Then
the question of universal brotherhood, justice, peace, prosperity will
come. Otherwise, there is no possibility. Central point missing. How
there can be justice and peace? It is not possible.
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The injunction is that tad viddhi, if you want to understand
transcendental subject matter, not material, spiritual… Spiritual is
completely unknown to us because we do not know what is spiritual. We
are identifying with this body. You do not know even that “I am spirit
soul.” So where is the possibility of spiritual understanding? One
cannot see himself, what he is. He is thinking, “I am this body,”
exactly like the dog. The dog is thinking, “I am dog.” So if I think,
“I am American,” “I am Indian,” where is the difference? There is no
difference. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. If one thinks that “I
am this body,” then he’s no better than sa eva go-kharah. The animals,
they also think like that, “I am this body.”
…then we are rascal. There is no beyond. This is perfect knowledge. So
how to take perfect knowledge? Tad viddhi. First of all you try to
learn. Tad viddhi. How to learn? Where to learn? Pranipatena, fully
surrendered. If you find somebody that he is somebody important where
you can surrender fully, from him… Tad viddhi pranipata… This is.
Our process of Vedic knowledge is how to surrender, not that I hear
and I reject it. That is not the way. That is another rascaldom. First
of all find out the person where you can surrender.
Surrender means you first of all be convinced that “Here is a
person who can give me actual knowledge.” Therefore before selecting
guru one has to convince himself that “The person whom I am going to
accept as guru, whether he actually can give me the knowledge?” That
is wanted. Therefore before making guru, the system is, for one year
the prospective disciple should hear from the person and then decide.
And similarly, the guru also see a person who is actually submissive
or not. That is Vaisnava injunction, Hari-bhakti-vilasa, not that to
make a guru as a fashion. No. Not do. Don’t keep a guru,
order-supplying guru. No. Just like if somebody keeps a dog and the
master orders him, “Do this,” and he does, fashion. No. It is not
fashion. You must approach guru who…, where you can surrender.
Otherwise don’t make guru. And the guru also should not accept such
rascal as guru. First of all the thing is surrender. Tad viddhi
pranipatena. The first necessity is that you surrender. So here you
have seen, Pariksit Maharaja, although the emperor of the world, he is
taking lesson from Sukadeva Gosvami. Sukadeva Gosvami is seated on the
throne and he is seated on the ground, submissive. So does it mean
that “I shall become submissive, and whatever my guru will say, I will
have to accept?” No. Pariprasnena. Tad viddhi. Here is the pariprasna.
Sri-raja uvaca. Ask him. That is intelligent. Intelligently serve.
First of all we must… It is not that he is checking the guru, “How
my guru is learned?” No. The submission is there. But when the guru
says something, he may not understand. That concession is given,
pariprasna. You inquire.
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When Rsabhadeva, the father of Maharaja Bharata, after whose name
this planet is called Bharatavarsa The name Bharatavarsa is not only
the name for India, but it is the name for this planet. Formerly, five
thousand years ago, the whole planet was known as Bharatavarsa. The
Vedic culture was all over the world. These Europeans and Americans,
they are coming of the same stock, Indo-Aryan stock. There is a great
history behind this, how some of the ksatriyas, they left India during
the time of Parasurama. He declared war against the ksatriyas and he
was incarnation of God. He was killing the ksatriyas like anything and
some of the ksatriyas fled from India and came to this part of the
world. So from historical point of view you Europeans and Americans,
you belong to the ksatriya stock of old India, and somehow or other
you have forgotten this Vedic culture. Originally you belonged to this
Vedic culture. The Vedic culture was all over the world, even in
America–different types of worship or concept of God. The Red Indians
also had some religion.
… But real, real fact is if you want to advance in spiritual
understanding, if you want to make a solution of all the problems of
your life, then you have to accept this life of austerity, tapasya.
Restriction. Restriction is meant for human beings, not for the
animals. Just like in our common dealings, when you drive your car,
you have got some restriction. You cannot drive your car on the left
side. That is offense. “Keep to the right.” You cannot drive your car
…regulation. That is human life. But now the propaganda is that
everyone, one wants to be free, no regulative life. This is animal
life. Just try to understand. The regulations, lawbooks, restrictions,
they are meant for human being, not for animals. And if you want
freedom from all restrictions, then you come to the animal life.
Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami recommends first tapasya. If you want to
stop the problems of life, then you have to accept the life of
austerity, tapasya.
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This is the translation of the… Nasnatah pathyam. Pathyam. Pathyam
means good foodstuff, not “Anything I can eat.” That is the business
of the hogs and dogs. Just like hogs have no discrimination. Anything,
up to stool you give him: it will eat. That is not human civilization.
Although it is the law of nature that ahastani sahastanam. Vegetables
or animals who has no hand… Just like ordinary animals, they have
got four legs, no hand. So these four-legged animals is the food for
the two-legged animals. Ahastani sahastanam. Uncivilized men means
two-legged animals. They are animals, but two-legged. There are
four-legged animals; there are two-legged. Ahastani sahastanam apadani
catus-padam: “And living entities who have no legs, just like the
vegetables, grass, plants, trees…” They have no legs. They cannot
move, but they are living entities. They are food for catus-padam, for
the animals who have got four legs. Ahastani sahastanam apadani
catus-padam, phalguni mahatam tatra: “And the weak is food for the
strong.” Phalguni… Jivo jivasya jivanam. This is the law of nature,
that one life is meant for maintaining another life. That is going on.
So sometimes they put forward this argument that “You are also eating
vegetables. They have got life. Why you object that nonvegetarians who
are eating four legged animals…?” No. We are not going to infringe
to the laws of nature. That is not our business. You can eat
four-legged animals because you are also animal. But when we speak of
civilized animals… Civilized is not animal. That is human being. So
long one is not civilized, he is animal. And the civilization begins
when one understands that he is not this body. That is the beginning
of civilization. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. So long one is
in ignorance, the bodily concept of life, he is animal. When one knows
that “I am not this body; I am… Aham brahmasmi,” then civilization
begins.
So here it is recommended that unless we follow the rules and
regulations, then there is no possibility of curing our material
disease. The whole process is we are in materially diseased. Otherwise
we are as good as Krsna, but because we are materially diseased, we
are in the difficult position of birth, death, old age and disease.
Krsna says. This is real problem.
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. So if we want to be
cured from this disease, then we have to follow rules and regulation,
just like a patient, if he wants to be cured from the disease, he has
to follow the rules and regulation prescribed by the physician.
Therefore law, religion, Vedic scripture, they are all meant for human
being, not for the cats and dogs. Even ordinary law, they are meant
for human being. Just like on the street it is “Keep to the right.” So
this is for the human being. If the cats and dogs goes from right to
the left or wrong, they are not prosecuted. The law is meant for the
human being. If the human being does not follow rules and regulative
principle, law, then he’s animal. So civilized means to raise oneself
from the animal status of life to the human status life. That means
rules and regulations.
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Prabhupada: So we have been discussing this verse for the last two
days. Tyagena. Partially I have already explained: tyaga, renounce.
There is some natural tendency also for renouncing. When one gets to
the topmost of material opulence, immediately there is a tendency for
renunciation. This hippie movement is like that. They have got a good
qualification that they have renounced this materialistic way of life.
Tyagena. The, there are two kinds of tendencies: one is bhoga and one
is tyaga. Bhoga means enjoyment, sense enjoyment, and tyaga means to
give up this material world. But without guidance, one does not know
how to renounce this material world. That is called tyaga. Bhoga and
tyaga, two kinds of tendencies are going on in this material world.
First of all they want to enjoy, and when they are frustrated in
enjoyment, then there is renouncement. Again when they are tired of
renouncement, again enjoyment. Just like the clock pendulum, this side
and that side–tock, tock, tock, tock. Similarly, we are oscillating:
sometimes in the platform of enjoyment and sometimes on the platform
of renouncement. Two things are there in this material world. The
karmis, they are trying to enjoy this world, whole day and night that
expressway, always trucks and cars are going on–sonh, sonh, sonh,
sonh. Bhoga, how to enjoy, first class. Another, the hippies. They
don’t want to do anything. Both sides are there in your country, bhoga
and tyaga.
But in neither of the paths you’ll be happy, because that is not
your proper position. You cannot enjoy or you cannot renounce.
Actually the whole thing belongs to Krsna. Nothing belongs to anyone.
Whatever you have got in possession, that is Krsna’s property.
Isavasyam idam sarvam. Everything. You do…, you try to understand.
The trees, the plants, the water, the land–have you produced it? Then
… Then what to do? That is direction given by Krsna: sarva-dharman
parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. You have created different types of
religion on the basis of this bhoga and tyaga. So you give up all
them. Then? Mam ekam saranam vraja: “You surrender unto Me.” Because
you cannot enjoy nor make any renunciation. But here it is said
tapasa, tyagena, by renouncing. Renouncing means that you’re falsely
possessing. So you give it to Krsna, the original proprietor. Just
like one hundred dollars note, a child has taken from the father. The
child does not know how to use that hundred dollars note, but he,
he’ll not give it to the father. “No, I shall not give it.” Father is
begging: “Oh, my dear child, you are so nice. Kindly give it to me.”
Actually the note belongs to the father. But because he’s child, he’s
innocent, ignorant, he does not know. Therefore Krsna says, dadasi yat
kurusva mad-arpanam. Dana, this tyaga, “You renounces this world for
Me. You renounce your wealth, your property for Me.” The same thing.
Everything belongs to Krsna. He’s not a beggar. But He’s patting the
child, “Oh, you are very good boy. Kindly give it to Me.” That is the
way. Krsna is so kind. Because… The same example: the child does not
know how to utilize that hundred dollars note. He’ll simply spoil it.
The best thing is to give it over, hand it over to the father. He
knows how to use it. It is his property.
Similarly this tyagena means to practice, to give everything to
Krsna. Everything. Tyagena. Samena damena tyagena. This is the
different steps of elevating yourself to Krsna consciousness. Tapasa
brahmacaryena samena ca damena ca, tyagena satya-saucabhyam. Satya
means truthfulness. One should know what is truth, ultimate truth,
Absolute Truth. We are concerned with relative truths, but we have to
know the Absolute Truth. Just like in the Bhagavata Vyasadeva is
offering his respect, obeisances: satyam param dhimahi. “I offer my
respect to the Supreme Truth, not to the relative truth.” We are
concerned with relative truth, categorical truth, not the summum
bonum. Saucabhyam: cleanliness. This is also required. Cleanliness.
… So you are all initiated to become brahmana. You have become
brahmana. Don’t become false brahmana. Real brahmana. It is not by
birth; it is by education, by practice, by knowledge. So we are
offering the sacred thread to the Americans and Europeans in the
Western countries, and some of our Indian contemporaries, they are not
very happy with my action. They are under contemplation that a
brahmana can be, I mean to say, seen by birthright. No. No. Brahmana
is by qualification. Brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. That is the
verdict of Krsna. We are concerned with Krsna, not any other else.
Krsna says, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah: “By
division of quality and, guna, and work, one must have the symptoms,
the quality of a brahmana, and work as a brahmana.” Not that…
Quality will be tested by work. Suppose if you are engineer. You have
got the quality of… But if you sit down at home, what is your value?
You must be engaged in some engineer work. Suppose you are lawyer, and
if you don’t go to the court and sleep at your home, then what is the
worth of your studying law? Therefore guna-karma. One should not be
simply qualified as engineer or lawyer, but he must work also, as
engineer, as lawyer. Then he’s bona fide. Similarly, unless you work
as a brahmana, simply saying that “I am a brahmana,” what is the
value? Useless. They…, therefore Krsna says, guna-karma-vibhagasah.
There must be quality and work also. So here we are qualifying the
students to be raised in the brahminical platform, and they’re working
also as brahmana. How they are working as brahmana? Because they’re
fully engaged in Param Brahma’s service, Krsna’s service. Therefore
they are brahmanas. Brahma janati iti brahmanah. Without knowing,
nobody can render service. They are not rendering service in the ear.
They are serving Krsna factually. Here is sitting Krsna with
…can…? That is not possible. Therefore the process is being explained
by Sukadeva Gosvami: tapasa. First thing is tapasya, austerity. Even
it is painful… Austerity’s painful. Brahmacarya is painful. Because
we want, unrestricted, to do everything. But no. As soon as it is
regulated it appears to be painful. When it is practiced, it is not
painful. One brahmacari in Indian city, in severe cold, he was
sleeping in the open air, without any covering. And it was severe
cold. But it was practice. During Magha-mela, many saintly persons
come there on the bank of the Ganga, Ganges. This year we had our own
camp; we have seen. The whole night they are sitting in the open air,
without any covering.
So practice. So practice means if you undergo austerity, tapasya,
everything will be practiced. That is a Bengali proverb: sarire na
mahasaya(?). Mahasaya is a word used in India, a very respectable
gentleman, mahasaya. So this sarira, this body is mahasaya. Ya sa haye
sa taicha(?). Whatever he’ll practice, it will be accustomed. So
practice. So here this Krsna consciousness movement is bringing them
to the practice. Therefore you find, so nice, boys and girls, they’re
practiced. As soon as they’re neglectful to the practice—falls down.
They cannot stay. Immediately goes out. So that is called austerity,
tapasya. Practice. Practical life. So these are the processes.
…continuously committing sinful activities, from time immemorial… You
do not know when it began. Evolution, many births. Therefore this life
is meant for rectifying all mistakes that we had committed in our
previous life or in this life. How? By this process. Ksipanty agham.
Agham means the resultant action of sinful life. Mahad api. Although
it is very great, mahad api, how? Venu-gulmam, venu-gulmam ivanalah.
Just like if you set fire to unwanted grass and creepers in the field.
You set fire, and they will be all burned. Similarly, by this process,
tapasa brahmacaryena, you can liquidate all of your sinful activities
of life and you become purified.
So the next process, another alternative process is being suggested
by Sukadeva Gosvami.
kecit kevalaya bhaktya
…dangerous, fog. Those who are… But as soon as there is sunrise, some
way or other, everything finished. Similarly, some way or other, if
you take to Krsna consciousness, all the sinful reaction of your life
immediately finished like the fog. So, but… This process is accepted
kecit, somebody, very fortunate. Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore said:
ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva
guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija
The Krsna consciousness is not for ordinary persons. It is meant for
very, very fortunate persons. But simply by accepting one thing, Krsna
consciousness, he finishes all business of brahmacarya, tyaga, yama,
niyama, sama, dama, everything.
So Sukadeva Gosvami is prescribing, kecit kevalaya bhaktya.
Kevalaya bhaktya. Kevala-bhakti. There is no mixture. Kevala means
only pure devotional service. What is that pure devotional service?
anyabhilasita-sunyam
jnana-karmady-anavrtam
anukulyena krsnanu-
silanam bhaktir uttama
No other desire than to please Krsna. Not that “I have become a
devotee. Now my income will increase,” or “I shall be…” That, that
will come automatically. You want money to increase your income to
become happy. But if you take to Krsna consciousness, automatically
you’ll be so happy that you’ll neglect to collect money. That will
automatically come. There is no need of separate endeavor. Happiness
will come. Yam labdhva. Just like Dhruva, Dhruva Maharaja. He was so
lamenting. Those who are recording, I mean, transcribing my tapes, how
he was lamenting, that “How foolish I was that I took to devotional
service with a desire for some material profit.” He was so much
repentant. So that is, that is another profit of the devotee. For
material profit, somebody goes to somebody, some boss, some rich man,
some demigod, some powerful man. But a devotee does not go anywhere.
He goes to Krsna only. Even if he has got material desires. That is
the advantage. This advantage: that if you go to Krsna for some
material advantage even, then day will come, you’ll forget that
material advantage.
…anything else from me”–he’s a rich man–ask him for millions of
dollars or something like that. But instead of…, if you ask for your
foolishness, that “Please give me some broken grains of rice…” So
similarly, to go to Krsna and to ask some material benefit is exactly
like this, to go to some rich man and ask from his “Please give me
some broken grains of rice.” Why one should ask for material happiness
from Krsna? Material happiness will roll on his feet: “Please take me,
please take me.” These Krsna conscious boys and girls, in sixty
centers, just see how they are materially opulent. They’re living in
the best house. They’re eating best food. They’re in best
consciousness. They have got the best hope. Everything best. Their
feature of body is best. What you want material happiness more than
this? They have got wife, children, happiness, home–everything–full.
So material happiness is nothing to a Krsna conscious person. He gets
automatically by the grace of Krsna. There is no need of asking for
- Simply be steady to ask Krsna, “Please engage me in Your service.”
Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. How Krsna will be satisfied? Then your
satisfaction will automatically come. Don’t bother for material
happiness.
Thank you very much.
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does not become old. Nava-yauvanam ca. Advaitam acyutam anadim
ananta-rupam adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam ca. He is the oldest
person because He has created everything, but He will never look old.
You will never see Krsna’s picture as old man. These are the
definition of God. God, nobody can be richer than Him, nobody can be
stronger than Him, nobody can be more beautiful than Him, and nobody
wiser than Him even. That proof we can see: Bhagavad-gita was spoken
five thousand years ago, and still Bhagavad-gita is worshiped as the
best book of knowledge. This is the proof. So God does not depend on
anyone’s proof. But if you want to prove whether He is God, you can
get. That you can get.
Therefore we should accept Krsna as the Supreme God. It is stated
in all sastras, ….
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Therefore we should accept Krsna as the Supreme God. It is stated
in all sastras, and Arjuna also, who listened Bhagavad-gita from
Krsna, he also accepted. After hearing Bhagavad-gita, he said, param
brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan, purusam sasvatam adyam. So
our process is to follow the predecessor. The Arjuna, he accepted. Not
only Arjuna. “Arjuna may be His friend. He might have accepted his
friend as God.” No. Krsna is accepted by the greatest learned scholar,
Vyasadeva, and greatest saintly person, Narada. That is Vyasadeva
writes in his Srimad-Bhagavatam that “I have given description of
different incarnation of God.” He has given so many incarnation. At
last, he concludes that “Although Krsna came as incarnation, but He is
not incarnation. He is the incarnate. From Him, all incarnations
come.” Ete camsa-kalah pumsah krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. As soon as
you say “incarnation,” the next question will be, “Whose incarnation?”
That Vyasadeva explains, that Krsna’s incarnation Krsna is not
incarnation. Krsna is personally the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
That is the statement of Vyasadeva, the most learned. He is accepted
the most, actually. Who can be more learned than Vyasadeva in this
material world? Nobody. You can see his writing, Bhagavatam, how
exalted, scholarly. Nobody can write such verses at the present
moment. It is not possible. Each and every word is full of meaning and
so nicely set up. Therefore it is said, vidvan cakre satvata-samhitam:
“The vidvan, the most learned Vyasadeva, has given us the
satvata-samhita.”
So if we want to know, everything is there; but to understand, that
will require a separate brain. That is recommended here. You create
your brain. Tapasa, first of all austerity. You cannot create your
brain by doing nonsense things. That is not possible. You have to
control: samena damena, tapasa brahmacaryena. These are the process to
create a brain to understand God. Otherwise it is useless.
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Therefore, this human form of body is especially meant for creating
a favorable situation so that when we pass through this body or we
leave this body and we accept another body, we’ll get exact a body
like Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. We are trying to
change the consciousness of the people so that this preparation will
help him to get exactly a body like Krsna in next life, and he may
dance with Krsna in rasa dance. That is our propaganda. Body you’ll
get. That’s a fact. Just as you are getting one body after another in
this life, similarly, tatha dehantara-praptir, similarly another
change of body. Dhiras tatra na muhyati. Those who are in the
knowledge, they’re not surprised. They know what kind of body. “My
father left this body; now he has accepted another body.” He can
understand what kind of body he has. How? Just like when you see a
friend going away to other place by plane, you know, “This plane is
meant for…” Just like I came from New York yesterday to London. So
everyone knows that I have gone to London. How? They are not seeing
me, but from the evidences of the ticket, of the aeroplane and
everything, they know certainly, “Swamiji has gone to London.”
Similarly, if you know the things right, you can know also “Where this
man is going after death.” How you gan know? That is also stated in
the Bhagavad-gita. Urdhvam gacchanti sattva-stha: “Those who are
situated in the modes of goodness…. That is Vedic civilization.
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But as you make progress in service, you’ll find it pleasing, not
disgusting. That is the taste that you have developed. When you do not
feel disgusted in the service, in executing the service of the Lord,
that means you have made progress. That material service becomes
disgusting.
Just like for example, here is Krsna’s name, “Hare Krsna.”
Throughout one’s life, twenty-four hours, he’s chanting Hare Krsna.
But it is not disgusting. But take any material name and chant it
three times, you become disgusted. This is a fact. But these boys,
these girls, throughout, throughout their life will go on chanting
Hare Krsna, will never be disgusted, but they will chant more and
more. So this is priti. The more you chant, the more you become
attached: “Let me chant more.” Not disgusted, but “Let me chant more.”
This is called priti. Similarly, any service of the Lord. This is
service by sravanam and kirtanam.
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Prabhupada: Do something for Krsna?
Devotee (1): For Krsna. But he begins to realize it’s still tinged
with a lot of personal gratification…
Prabhupada: Therefore he should consult spiritual master. The guide is
there. Then it is all right. He should take sanction from Krsna or
Krsna’s representative. If he wants to do something, that’s good, but
whether that doing is right or wrong you have to know it from Krsna or
His representative. Is it clear or not? Yes.
Devotee (1): How can one reach the point where he knows that a
particular type of service…
Sruta-kirti: How can one reach the point where he knows a particular
type of service…
Devotee (1): …will please the spiritual master?
Madhudvisa: He wants to know how to find out how to please the
spiritual master with one service.
Prabhupada: The spiritual master has given you so many things to do.
Do it. First of all finish that. First of all finish sixteen rounds,
observe the regulative principles. First of all… First of all finish
this duty. And neglecting this duty, what you can do further? If you
cannot finish sixteen rounds chanting, you cannot observe the
regulative principles, then what else you can do? First of all finish
this duty. Be expert in finishing, executing these duties. Then ask
for another duty. And if you finish these duties, automatically Krsna
will give you intelligence. Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam
priti-purvakam. One who is actually engaged in the service of the
Lord, buddhi-yogam dadami tam, “I give him intelligence.” Krsna will
give you intelligence. You will be able to talk with Krsna from within
if you become sincere. If you cannot execute the preliminary duties,
then how you can execute further duty? There is no question.
Madhudvisa: This is a problem, I think, with many devotees. They have
a difficulty distinguishing between their own speculation and the
inspiration…
Prabhupada: Then they should stop speculation. That is their first
duty. Devotional life means stop speculation.
Madhudvisa: Well, what is inspiration then?
Prabhupada: Inspiration? That inspiration is there. That is very good,
that “I shall do something for Krsna.” So whatever duty is assorted to
you or allotted to you, you first execute that duty.
Devotee (2): How important is formal initiation?
Prabhupada: Formal initiation means to accept, officially, to abide by
the orders of Krsna and His representative. That is formal initiation.
Officially accept, “Yes, sir, I shall accept. I shall do whatever you
say.” This is initiation, official acceptance of the job. That’s all.
Now, you formally accept, and if you do not do the duties, then where
is the question of other function? There is no question. Initiation
means this is the beginning of accepting the orders of Krsna and His
representative to carry out. This is the beginning. That is
initiation. Just like if you enter in an office establishment, so you
accept the terms of service. That is initiation. Then you go on
serving, you become promoted, you get salary increase. You become
recognized. You become officer. You become big officer, like that.
That very word initiation suggests, “This is the beginning.” Diksa,
diksa. Di… Divya. There are two words, divya-jnana. Divya-jnana
means transcendental, spiritual knowledge. So divya is di, and jnanam,
ksapayati, explaining, that is ksa, di-ksa. This is called diksa,
diksa, the combination. So diksa means the initiation to begin
transcendental activities. That is called initiation. Therefore we
take promise from the disciple that “You chant so many times,” “Yes,
sir.” “You observe these rules and regulations,” “Yes, sir.” That is
initiation. He has to observe; he has to chant. Then everything comes
automatically. In the beginning he is faulty; then how he can make
progress? There is no question of in…, what is called? What you were
asking?
Madhudvisa: Inspiration.
Prabhupada: Inspiration. What is that inspiration? If you have got
inspiration, first of all execute this. Inspiration there is. Because
we are, by nature, we are servant of Krsna, we want to serve. But that
should be regulated. That should be regulated. That is initiation.
Yes?
Madhudvisa: Srila Prabhupada, you were speaking about Sravanam
kirtanam visnoh smaranam, that any one of these principles, if
executed, is sufficient. Now, some devotees may take this to mean that
they simply can chant Hare Krsna and don’t have to do anything else
like temple duties or readings or…
Prabhupada: That means he is not chanting Hare Krsna. Because if he is
actually chanting Hare Krsna, he must be enthusiastic to serve Krsna
more and more. This is an excuse. Utsahan dhairyat
tat-tat-karma-pravar… He must be very enthusiastic. Therefore we
have limited. If you are chanting Hare Krsna, if you are so advanced,
then chant Hare Krsna twenty-four hours. But he will sleep. (makes
snoring noise) (laughter) So in the name of chanting Hare Krsna, you
will sleep. And if you are actually chanting Hare Krsna, you will be
enthusiastic, “Oh, I shall serve. I shall…” That is effect. Phalena
pariciyate. We have to see by the result. He should be enthusiastic
more and more. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. It will increase. The service
attitude will increase. Therefore we have given all the nine items
sometimes here, sometimes there, sometimes here, but all Krsna’s.
Actually recommended, all the nine, but even one is accepted
sincerely, that also give perfection. That is another thing. But
actually, we should accept all the nine items: Sravanam kirtanam visnu
smaranam pada-sevanam, arcanam… And All right. Yes?
Devotee (3): How is it possible that Tulasi-devi is a pure devotee,
what we might call a plant?
Prabhupada: That you cannot know in your impure state. You just become
pure. You will understand. (laughter) Just like a physician, he can
understand another physician, what is his position. The layman, what
he can understand? If you say, physician, “Oh, how I can understand
this physician?” How you can understand? You are not a physician. You
become a physician, then you will understand what kind of physician he
- is. So when you become devotee, you will understand what kind of
devotee is Tulasi. So long you are not devotee, you cannot understand.
Don’t expect. Therefore we have to accept the authority. That is
beginning. Sastra says, “Tulasi is the greatest devotee of Krsna.” We
have to accept, that’s all. Authority. How she is so great devotee,
that you will understand when you become a devotee. You come to the
platform; then you will understand, not before. Now chant. (kirtana)
(Prabhupada leads prema-dhvani) (end)
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So we have been discussing for the last few days how to become free
from the reaction of our sinful life. That is real problem. But
people, they have no knowledge what is life, what is sinful life, what
is pious life, why we are put into this condition that “We have to do
this; we haven’t got to do that.” This is real philosophy of life. The
asuras, as we were discussing in this morning walk, they do not know
- Asuras… Pravrttim ca nivrttim ca na vidur asurah janah. We are
living… In the ordinary life also, we live a little carefully so
that we may not fall sick. For that purpose there is very vigilance in
the immigration department that in Australia we had some nice mangoes
brought from Bombay, and they did not allow to take it. They thought
this mango is more dangerous than the dry meat. They will allow
importation of dry meat, three hundred years old, (laughter) put into
the regrigerator, and that is imported. That is not infectious. But
mango, very nice mango, fresh mango–we started in Bombay at night,
and we came in the morning, it has become poisonous. So we are so much
precautious that not any germs, infectious disease, may enter. That is
there. But what is that infection which has caused me to accept this
material body again and again? That they do not know. That they do not
know. They do not believe in the next life, and therefore asurah
janah. This is, the symptom or characteristic of the asurah janah. You
should be precautious. That is natural. We become precautious, that
“We should not do this so that I may not fall sick.” But we do not
know what is our real sickness. That we do not know.
That is being presented by Krsna in the Bhagavad-gita, that “This
is your sickness, real sickness.” What is that?
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. You are trying to be
unaffected by all kinds of sickness, but your real sickness is this
material disease: you take birth, you die, you become old, and you
suffer from diseases. This is your real sickness. But who is caring
for this? Where is the scientist who are investigating how to stop
death, how to stop birth. They are, of course, investigating how to
stop birth, but still, birth is going on. This sort of stopping
births, by killing the body, is not stopping because the body is not
the person. The real person is within the body, within the body.
Dehino ‘smin yatha dehe. We have explained. That they do not know.
They are taking… No. By killing the body or by protecting the body,
…that is not the solution. The solution is that the living entity has
infected itself with the material disease. It has to be cured. That is
the whole purpose of Vedic civilization, how to cure your material
disease.
…Sukadeva Gosvami suggested, prayascittam vimarsanam. Vimarsanam means
to become sober and think that “Why I cannot check my desire to do
sinful activities?” Then he suggested, to come to that understanding
he requires good brain. Ordinary brain, they cannot understand that
“Why I am forced to act sinfully although after doing that I suffer? I
have committed theft. I am suffer…, I go to jail. Again I come out.”
So therefore it is called vimarsanam.
So for vimarsanam–means to become sober–you require practicing
the tapasya. That is also, we have discussed.
tapasa brahmacaryena
samena ca damena ca
tyagena satya-sauchym yamena niyamena va
A series of practice. Then the brain will be clear. So this process
also–not very safe. The example has been given that ksipanty agham
mahad api venu-gulmam ivanalah. It is something like burning, setting
fire into the dry grass. And superficially it appears that all the
grasses are now burned into ashes; there is no possibility of coming
out. No. Therefore this very word is there, iva analah. Although
superficially, outside, it appears that everything is burned, but the
root remains there. The root remains there, and as soon as there will
be facility or there will be rainy season, the same grasses and twigs
and other things will come out again, new growth. That is… Even
after so much tapasya… There are many instances. Just like
Visvamitra Muni. Visvamitra Muni was a king. He wanted to become a
brahmana, and he practiced mystic yoga for many years. Still, he
became a victim of a woman, Menaka. He was meditating, closing eyes,
and Indra sent this woman, Menaka. And simply by hearing the sound of
the bangles, ching, ching, ching, “Oh, there is woman. Yes, very
nice,” (laughter) all mystic yoga finished. Then he begot one
daughter. That…, her name is Sakuntala, the famous beautiful
daughter. So that history is there.
So the root of our material enjoyment cannot be taken away, cannot
be uprooted by… The first process is called karma, and the second
process is called jnana, and the next, it is suggested, bhakti. So he
is suggesting that kecit. People are more inclined to take to the…
Those who are absolutely in the rotten condition of life, not for
then, but those who are little above the rotten condition… Animals.
Rotten condition of, means like animals, cats and dogs. Above them,
human life, they take to pious activities or meditation or mystic yoga
process, just to purify. So these processes are not sufficient.
Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami is suggesting next, kecit. That kecit word
is very significant. Kecit means somebody, somebody. Who are the
somebody? Kecit kevalaya bhaktya, pure devotional service. And how
they become? Vasudeva-parayanah. They become Krsna conscious. Krsna
conscious person or vasudeva-parayanah, the same thing. Vasudeva means
Krsna, that “Simply I shall worship Krsna,” kevalaya, “nothing else.”
This firm conviction and steadiness will save you without any doubt,
this conviction. Vasudeva-parayanah. Then what is that
vasudeva-parayanah? That is also not very easy thing. Krsna, Vasudeva,
says, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate.
Vasudeva-parayanah and jnanavan mam…, the same thing. When one is
fully in awareness what is what, then That awareness also
comes–bahunam janmanam ante, after many many thousands of births,
bahunam janmanam ante, jnan…, when he is actually jnanavan, that
“What I am, what is my duty,” that is actually jnanavan mam
prapadyate. So vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhah. After
many, many births, when he comes to this, understand that “Vasudeva,
Krsna, is everything. So let me. Krsna also asking me to surrender.
Let me do it immediately,” that is called vasudeva-parayanah.
In another place, Bhagavata, it is said that,
vasudeve bhagavati
bhakti-yogah prayojitah
janayaty asu vairagyam
jnanam ca yad ahaitukam
Those who have become vasudeva-parayanah and engages himself in the
service, for them, janayaty asu vairagyam, very soon they become
detestful to all this material way of life.
That is the test. How much one has advanced in Krsna consciousness,
one can test himself that “How much I have become detestful, all this
material way of life?” Everyone can test himself. If he has got still
some inclination, then he is not fully Krsna conscious. He has to work
very hard, how to become fully Krsna conscious, chant Hare Krsna. Then
it is possible. So that is called vasudeva-para. Vasudeva-parayanah is
not so easy. Therefore it is said, kecit. Kecit means “maybe
somebody.” It is not for all. And Krsna also says in the
Bhagavad-gita… Who is vasudeva-parayanah? Who knows Vasudeva, who
knows Krsna. So He says, manusyanam sahasresu: “Out of millions of
persons,” manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye, “somebody is
trying to make his life perfect.” Everyone is being carried away by
the waves of this material nature: “Eat, drink, be merry and enjoy.”
But that is not siddhi. That is imperfection. If you are carried away
by the waves of these material necessities, then it is not siddhi. One
has to become siddha. Siddha means one who understand that “What I am
and what is my duty.” That is siddha, perfect. Not… That is the
beginning of perfection. So manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati
siddhate. That siddha, perfection of life, is also not for everyone.
Somebody out of millions. And Krsna said, yatatam api siddhanam:
“Those who are siddhas, those who have attained perfection, if they
are trying to understand Me, maybe one or two may understand.” Yatatam
api siddhanam kascit vetti mam tattvatah. Therefore it is said that to
become vasudeva-parayanah that is very very rare. Therefore it is said
kecit, “somebody out of many millions.”
So one may ask, “If it is so difficult to become Krsna conscious,
so how so many people are becoming Krsna conscious? They are not
genuine? They are all false? If it is said kecit?” No, they are not
false. They are amongst these kecit, amongst those rare persons, those
who have become Krsna conscious. How? It is due to Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has descended to distribute Krsna.
That is His mercy. So by the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so many
people are becoming vasudeva-parayanah. But otherwise, it is not
possible. Therefore we first offer our obeisances to Guru-Gauranga, by
whose mercy we get Krsna. This is the system. Adau gurvasrayam. Now,
Caitanya Mahaprabhu is so kind. Rupa Gosvami could understand, could
understand.
namo maha-vadanyaya
krsna-prema-pradaya te
krsnaya krsna-caitanya
namne gaura-tvise namah
He understood, confidential devotee, Rupa Gosvami, “O my Lord, You are
the same Krsna. Now You have appeared as Krsna-Caitanya, and Your
business is to distribute love of Krsna, not only Krsna, but love of
Krsna.”
So this is Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mercy that you are becoming Krsna
conscious. Otherwise, it is not so easy thing; very, very difficult.
Kecit kevalaya bhaktya. So stick to this principle. Chant
sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda sri-advaita gadadhara
srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. By their favor, by their mercy, we can
chant Hare Krsna. And as soon as we chant Hare Krsna, we are
vasudeva-parayanah. There is no more fear. That is required. So you
stick to this principle, do not forget. We have already given our ways
and instruction. So don’t deviate from it. Then everything is perfect
and your life is successful.
Thank you