SB classes vol 9

April 25, 2014 in Damaghosa Dasa by KHD


NoD 7 Hearing and speaking Srimad-Bhagavatam is the
religious process which elevates one to the platform of serving and
loving the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”

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atah sri-krsna-namadi
na bhaved grahyam indriyaih
sevonmukhe hi jihvadau
svayam eva sphuraty adah

Krsna, His name, His fame, His attributes, His activities…
Sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved… Namadi means “beginning from the holy
name.” So not possible… So if we keep ourself on the material
platform, then for thousand years we may chant, it will be difficult.
That is called namaparadha. Of course, holy name is so powerful that
even by chanting with offense, gradually he becomes pure. Therefore we
should not give up chanting. Any circumstances, we should go on
chanting Hare Krsna. But the warning is that if we keep us on the
material platform, then it will be not possible to understand Krsna,
His holy name, His attribute, His form, His activities. It will not be

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inquired from Arjuna, “What you have decided?” Arjuna replied, nasto
mohah smrtir labdha karisye vacanam tava: “Now I am quite in
knowledge. I shall execute Your order.” This is mukti. When we are
prepared to execute the order of Krsna, that is the platform of mukti.
Therefore it is said, kecit kevalaya bhaktya vasudeva-parayanah.
Simply by executing the order of Vasudeva one becomes mukta. Just like
master and servant. If the servant executes the order of the master,
he is faultless. If the servant declines to execute the order of the
master, however qualified he may be, he is useless. So therefore it is
said, kevalaya bhaktya: “without any contamination, simply ready to
execute the order of Krsna, or Vasudeva.” Therefore it is called
vasudeva-parayana. Therefore it is, in the Bhagavad-gita it is
confirmed, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate: “After many,
many births of struggling, when one is actually jnanavan, wise, he
surrenders unto Me.” So either you become karmi, jnani, or yogi, you
are not mukta. Mukta means, I have already defined, mukti hitva
anyatha rupam sva-rupena avasthiti. When you stay in your own original
position to execute the order of Krsna, that is mukti.

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he is liberated. One who has this fixed-up mind, that “How I shall
render service to Krsna?” and if he tries his best, then he becomes
immediately mukta unless he changes his decision. That is… Every
time is possible. Even one is mukta, liberated, he can be also fallen
down unless he is very strong in his determination. Maya is always
there. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya. But if one is
determined that “I shall stick to the service of Krsna,” maya will not
touch. That is kevala bhakti. If sometimes it appears that he has
deviated out of past habit, that is excused. Api cet suduracaro
bhajate mam ananya-bhak, sadhur eva sa mantavyah. But not intentional.
We should not fall down and deviate from our path of devotional
service intentionally. That will not… That is very great
criminality. We must try our best, kevalaya bhaktya.
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So this is the only way. Otherwise in this age severe austerity,
tapasya, celibacy, charity, and so on, recommended. Tyagena
satya-saucabhyam yamena niyamena va. These are the methods, gradual
process of transcendental life. But in this age, especially in this
Kali-yuga, it is very, very difficult, almost impossible. So best
thing is take to this Krsna consciousness, kevalaya bhaktya, simply
this understanding, that “Krsna is my eternal master; I am Krsna’s
eternal servant. So let us exchange our feelings of master and
servant. Then I shall be perfect.”
Thank you very much. (end)

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The whole idea is that we are in this material world. That is
miserable. Under the spell of illusion, we are thinking we are very
happy. They do not know is actually happiness. What is happiness? But
there is no argument for these rascals. They are thinking they are
very happy. That is maya’s praksepatmika-sakti, covering energy. Just
like you are seeing a hog eating stool, but he is thinking that he’s
very happy. But you are seeing, “Oh, what abominable life. He’s eating
stool.” So this is the position. Those who are advanced in
civilization, for them eating of stool is unthinkable. But for the
hogs and dogs, it is very palatable. This is the difference. Just like
we are recommending, “No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication,
no gambling.” So somebody is thinking, “Then what remains to enjoy?
Everything is finished. Life is finished.”
So according to different grades of person, the taste is also
different. You cannot expect that the taste will be the same. “One
man’s food, another man’s poison.” This is an English proverb. One
man’s food is another man’s poison. Therefore the society is divided.
That is scientific method, class. Catur-varnyam maya srstam
guna-karma-vibhagasah. That is God’s creation, four classes, men. And
the fifth class is almost rejected. Up to fourth class. First class,
second class, third class, fourth class. And below fourth class, from
fifth class, they are not human being. So taste of different classes
are different. But one thing is that in whichever class we may belong,
if you take to Krsna consciousness, then you’ll become one. People are
wanting unity. There is United Nation organization, but so long we
keep ourself on the material platform there cannot be unity. That is
not possible. Only in the spiritual platform there can be unity.

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Ivapagah. So here is one significant word, sura-kumbham. Everything is
washed very nicely. If you go to the river, you can wash very nicely.
But just see how much infectious is liquor that the any pot or any
bottle which was filled up with liquor, they cannot be purified. This
is Vedic civilization. How much condemned is liquor! Because a pot was
filled up with liquor, you cannot use it for any other purpose. It is
lost. Even if you wash it very nicely, no, it will not be accepted.
Finished. Similarly, there are many processes of purification; they
cannot be as useful as bhagavad-bhakti. Bhagavad-bhakti is so nice
that Krsna says that “You surrender to Me,” sarva-dharman parityajya,
“and immediately you become immune from all reaction of sinful
activity, immediately.”

dharmah svanusthitah pumsam
visvaksena-kathasu yah
notpadayed yadi ratim
srama eva hi kevalam

So there are different varieties of religious system, but if you
execute your particular type of religious system very perfectly but
the result, if you do not become attached to Krsna, your love for
Krsna is not awakened, then simply by performing such ritualistic
ceremony or rules and regulation of your religious system, if you do
not become develop yourself to love God, then it is all useless waste
of time. It has no meaning. That is the test, how to become, how to
advance in loving service of the Lord. That is the… Then you are
religious, you are philosopher, you are great man, you are everything.
Otherwise, if you do not awaken your dormant love for Krsna, or God,
then all such labor is useless. Srama eva hi kevalam.

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or other. Do anything, but you remember Krsna. That is the instruction
in the Bhagavad-gita also. Yudhyasva mam anusmara: “You fight; at the
same time, you remember Me.” “How it is possible? I am busy, and I
have to remember Krsna?” Sometimes this argument is put forward. But
that argument is not strong. Rupa Gosvami has given a very nice
example that a woman, if she is attached to some man and she has a
fixed up time to meet the man at some place or at some hour, so she
may be engaged in household affairs very busily, but she is expecting,
“When that hour will come?” This is very factual example. The mind is
there, “When that meeting will take place?” Similarly, you can
remember Krsna. The… It is a crude example, but it is possible that
you be busy in so many ways, but at the same time you can remember
Krsna. That is wanted. That is Krsna conscious. We have no objection.
You do business, you do this, you do that. But if you can always
remember Krsna, then your life is successful. It doesn’t matter. Yena
tena prakarena manah krsne nivesayet. And if you remember always
Krsna, that means you are becoming purified. You are purified

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rules and regulation. And another complaint I was hearing that we are
not taking prasadam, especially the grhasthas. No. That is not good.
You should take prasadam. Krsna baro doyamoy, koribare jihwa jay,
swa-prasad-anna dilo bhai, sei annamrta pao, radha-krsna-guna gao,
preme dako caitanya-nitai. Krsna baro doya… Our tongue is the
greatest enemy. Ta ‘ra madhye jihwa ati, lobhamoy sudurmati. The
tongue is the greatest enemy, and if you can control the tongue, then
you can control all the senses. Otherwise tongue will dictate, “Give
me this kind of food, give me this kind of food.” And if you don’t
take prasadam in the temple, then our tongue will dictate, “Now you
can prepare some nice food. Let us take it.” That will not help us in
our Krsna consciousness. Whatever Krsna…, krsna baro doyamoy,
koribare jihwa jay. Krsna-prasada means to control the tongue. Our
main enemy is the tongue. In another place it is said, sevonmukhe hi
jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah: “God realization becomes by keeping
the tongue engaged in the service of the Lord.” Sevonmukhe hi
jihvadau. The tongue has to be first of all engaged, not the hands and
legs. “I have to serve Krsna. So yes, I am ready. I am expanding my
hands. I am going there.” But sastra says, “No, no, no. Not your hands
and legs but your tongue. This is the one. First of all engage your
tongue.” This is astonish: “How can I serve with tongue? If I have to
serve, I have got my hands and legs, my eyes and I…” No. Sastra says
tongue. This is very peculiar. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva
sphuraty adah. If you engage your tongue… So how to engage my
tongue? What is the business of my tongue? Two business only: to
taste, or eat, and chant. Chant Hare Krsna with tongue and take
krsna-prasadam–you will conquer Krsna. This is the program.
Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau. So if you do not control your tongue, if you
feel inconvenient in taking prasadam, that means you are not making
progress. This is the… This is the formula. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau
svayam eva sphuraty adah.
So in our other branches, all the devotees, they take together
prasadam. That is nice. Why one should be not liking to take prasadam
in the temple? What is the fault? No, this is not good. We should…
Everyone should take prasadam. You see still if you go to Jagannatha
Puri. Even outsiders who go there, they do not cook. Strictly, they do
not cook. They purchase prasadam. And if you go there, one thousand
men–because there are pilgrims, they are coming, there is no–you
will get immediately ready prasadam, purchased from the the market,
the Jagannatha Puri, still. And there is no such thing as infection. I
am taking your prasadam remnants. Whatever you left, I am… He is
taking. Even if you are outcaste, if you are not brahmana, still there
is. Because prasada is transcendental. It is not material thing. So
one must have faith that it is not material. It cannot be infected by
any material things. In this way prasada should be taken. It is called
prasada-seva, not “prasada enjoyment.” Seva means giving service.
Prasada is as good as Krsna; therefore prasada should be respected as
good as Krsna. As soon as one gets prasadam, immediately he touches on
the head because it is Krsna, absolute. In this way we have to be
trained up as it is prescribed in the sastras.
So those who are attached to Krsna consciousness movement and those
who are attached to the service, they should take prasadam,
first-class prasadam. Everyone likes the taste of the prasadam. I used
to go in my household life to take prasadam in the temples and pay
them. I used to do that. And I used to go… Especially in Sri
Ramapur, there are two temples, one of Jagannatha and one of
Radha-Vallabhaji. So it was very nice. On Sunday I used to go to take
prasadam. So you should be habituated to prasadam as far as possible
unless you are very sick, you cannot take. That is different.
Otherwise you should take it. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau. Then we will
remember Krsna, and that will keep us fit and immune from all
infection of material miserable condition.

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ayam loke panthah ksemo ‘kuto-bhayah. First of all we are so ignorant
that we do not know what is the aim of life. The modern education,
modern civilization, they are so much misled that they do not know
what is the aim of… Ask anybody, very learned scholar, scientist,
philosopher, or medical man, engineer, lawyer, that “What is the aim
of life?” Nobody knows. They think aim of life–eat, drink, be merry,
and enjoy, that’s all. This is aim of life. So that is not the aim of
life. That eat, drink, be merry and enjoy, that is being done by the
cats and dogs and hogs. So do you mean to say that this human form of
life is also meant for that purpose? No. Human life is meant for
understanding “What I am? What is God? What is relationship with God?
Why I am here in this material world? Why I am suffering?” These are
the questions for human life. Eating, sleeping, mating, that is wanted
because we have got this body. So suppose there is car and a driver.
So the petrol and grease, these things are required for the car. But
you cannot eat petrol and grease and live. That is not possible. You
have to eat something else. So we are thinking that the bodily
necessities, petrol and grease, is my food(?). That is the mistake.
So therefore they do not know what is the aim of life, and the
nature’s law is, unless you come to the point of understanding what is
the aim of life, the nature will go on punishing you in so many ways.
Little mistake, you’ll be punished. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya
duratyaya. We have come to this material world, disobeying the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. So just like police: as soon as you become
outlaw, the police will take you and the police will go on punishing
you unless you become lawful. This is the… So without understanding
“Why I am put into the jail?” if I simply think that “It is all right.
Let me remain here and suffer the punishment,” jail life is not for
happiness. That is, everyone knows. Jail life is for punishment.
Similarly, in this material world everything is punishment, but by the
illusory energy you are thinking, “This is all right.” Every step
there is punishment. Just study your life or my life. What is that?
That beginning from the womb of my mother, when the body is formed,
the soul, spirit soul, is injected in the womb of the woman, and then
the formation of the body takes place. So the body grows. And now
imagine when we are in the womb of the mother, how much difficult
position packed up in a bag, airtight bag. If we, at the present
moment, if I put into some airtight condition, within three minutes I
shall die. Within three minutes. But similarly, just like packed the
child remains within the womb of the mother. It is very, very painful.
But by the grace of God he lives. He lives. Otherwise it is
suffocating. Just imagine if you are put in a airtight box, tied up,
hands and legs. How long you can live? So we remain in that condition,
unconscious stage. Then, when the body is formed, we get our
consciousness. Therefore at the age when the child is seven years, er,
seven months old, it moves because he feels the pains.
So in this way we have to remain within the womb of the mother. And
when the body is formed, time is right, then by nature’s way the child
comes out. But he forgets that “I was in such condition. Now I am
relieved.” But he forgets. The mother or the father or the relative
takes him. Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung these different conditions.
So we forget. That is spell of maya. Then, even in this childhood,
there are so many pains. Just like our… Here are children. They are
crying. There is some pain. But we cannot understand what is the pain.
Suppose some bug is biting. He’s crying and mother is thinking that
“He is hungry, so he’s not stopping. So just…” Our point is: just
try to study this life, how much painful it is. This is the human body
and what to speak of the dog’s body, cat’s body? You study very
minutely. You’ll find, from the beginning of my life in the womb of my
mother up to the death point, simply miseries. Simply miseries.

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Maya has got two things: avaranatmika and praksepatmika.
Avaranatmika means just like a dog or a hog, he is in a, encaged in a
body, eating stool, living in a very filthy place, but still, the hog
is feeling himself that he is happy, he’s happy. This is called
avaranatmika-sakti. Any abominable condition we may live, but maya
will cover our intelligence and we will think that we are living very
nice. This is called avaranatmika-sakti. Otherwise he cannot live. If
an animal or a dog or hog thinks that he’s in most abominable
condition of life, then he cannot live. But he enjoys. A dog is
chained up by the master, but he thinks that he’s very happy. He does
not think that “I am completely dependent and I am chained up. I have
no independence, I cannot freely move.” Even his chain is taken away,
he wants to be chained. This is maya. In any condition of life,
everyone thinks that he’s happy. But actually he does not know what is
happiness. This is called maya.

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So literatures also, there are different kinds of literature. For
the crowlike men there are different kinds of literature. And for the
swanlike men there are different kinds of literature. So swanlike
men…, swan means hamsa. From nature’s study you can see. The swans,
they have got a special qualification. What is that? If you give a
swan milk mixed with water, the swan will take out only the milk
portion, and the water portion will remain. That means those who are
swanlike men, they take the essence, not the adulteration. Similarly,
there are elevated persons who are also called paramahamsa.
Paramahamsa. The same example of the hamsa, swan. Paramahamsa means
they are interested with the essence of this world, not with the
adulteration. What is the adulteration? The adulteration is matter and
the essence is spirit. Just like this body. What is this body? This
… So we have to utilize. The paramahamsa means they take the essence.
What is the essence of this body? The essence of this body is the
spirit soul. So one should try to understand what is science of that
spirit soul. They are not interested with the adulteration. Just like
the example is given: the swan. The swan takes out the active
principle. The swans, they live in a very nice place where there is
very clear water, nice garden, nice fruits, flowers, birds chirping.
You will find, these white swans are there. When I was in London I saw
there was a, there is a nice Regent Park. There are many swans. The
park is mostly flower, rose flower, nice park. So they are living
there. And the crows, where they live? They’ll go where you throw away
all nasty things. They will go and enjoy there. You see, the crows.
Why? Why the crows does not do like the swans, and the white swans do
not do like these crows? These are the different qualities. The whole
world is moving in different qualities. Therefore the quality of
goodness, that has to be acquired in human form of life. This temple
is meant for the persons who are in the quality of goodness, those who
are after the essence of the world–paramahamsa. And this, our Krsna
consciousness movement is also meant for the paramahamsas. Not for the
crowslike men but swanslike men, those who are white swans, trying to
live in a very nice place, clear water, nice tree, nice fruits.

… So this Krsna consciousness movement is trying to create a
population of paramahamsa. That is our propaganda. We are not trying
to create a class of men like crows or cats and dogs, but like the
hamsas. Of course, it is very difficult. When you try to create some
M.A., pass boys and girls, their number will be very little. Because
anything valuable, the customer is very little. If you want to sell
jewel, in the jewelry shop hardly you will find one customer in a day,
or two customer in a day. But in a beef shop or a meat shop you will
find hundreds of… You see? So as soon as a thing is valuable, the
number of customer will be less. So don’t consider the quality of the
good by estimation of the number of customers. The customer may be
very little, but you should try to understand what is the quality of
…this morning we had ceremony, initiation. The second ceremony will be
for offering sacred thread. So one who has got this sacred thread, he
is called dvijah, twice-born. Twice-born. Once born by the father and
mother, and the next birth is given by the spiritual master and Vedic
literature. Vedic literature is the mother and the spiritual master is
the father. As in every birth the necessity of father and mother is
there, similarly, in this birth also, spiritual rebirth, there is
necessity of mother and father. The mother is this Vedic knowledge,
and the father is the spiritual master.
…also. So this man, Ajamila, contacted a prostitute. Dasi-patih
ajamilah namna nasta-sadacarah dasyah samsarga-dusitah. And because,
although he was born in a nice family, he contacted the association of
a prostitute, his sadacarah, his well-behaved life, became lost.
Well-behaved life… Sadacarah and duracarah. Sadacarah means those
who are following the regulative principles, they are called
sadacarah. And those who are not following the regulative principles,
they are called duracarah. So here it is said that dasyah
samsarga-dusitah. Being contaminated by the association of the
prostitute, he lost his life of well behavior. And what is that? How
did he lose his well behavior? Bandy-aksaih kaitavais cauryair
garhitam vrttim asthitah. He accepted the profession of cheating,
gambling. Bandy-aksaih kaitavais. Stealing, cauryaih, and garhitam
vrttim. Those are condemned profession. Now these condemned
professions have become ordinary profession in the civilized society,
but according to the Vedic civilization, these things are condemned
things. Cheating or gambling, cheating and speaking lie, bandy-aksaih
kaitavais. And stealing. These are condemned profession. But he
adopted all these things because he was associated with a woman for
illicit sex.
So illicit sex is so bad thing. This is the example. If we indulge
in illicit sex life, then we won’t care for all these abominable
actions. That was the example by Ajamila. We shall come to understand
later on that he was married, but he left his legal wife, and he
contacted a prostitute, and the association of this prostitute, he
became a thief, a cheater, a gambler, a liar and so many nice things
simply for maintaining the family. So we shall not take much of your
time. This is a long story. We shall narrate again next week. Please
Thank you very much. (end)

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instruction is also absolute, Krsna’s pastimes absolute. Everything.
That is Absolute Truth. There is no difference. In the material world
the name and the thing is different. Suppose here is mango, so mango
is the thing and mango is the name. So if I simply say “Mango, mango,
mango,” there is no mango. There must be the thing, mango. That is
duality. This is the world of duality. Absolute means the name mango
and the mango thing is the same. Otherwise what is the… If they’re
different, then what is the use of chanting Krsna? Krsna chanting
means Krsna, this word, and Krsna the person, the same. Therefore by
constant chanting means constantly associating with Krsna. Then we are
becoming purified. Purified.

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for offering sacred thread. So one who has got this sacred thread, he
is called dvijah, twice-born. Twice-born. Once born by the father and
mother, and the next birth is given by the spiritual master and Vedic
literature. Vedic literature is the mother and the spiritual master is
the father. As in every birth the necessity of father and mother is
there, similarly, in this birth also, spiritual rebirth, there is
necessity of mother and father. The mother is this Vedic knowledge,
and the father is the spiritual master.

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Deity. This was still going on. Even one is very low in mentality,
still, if he is challenged that “You are talking this false. Now speak
before the Deity,” he will hesitate, “No.” This is India still. You
cannot speak lies before the Deity. That is offense. Don’t consider
that Deity is a marble statue. No. Svayam bhagavan. Just like Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. As soon as He saw Jagannatha Deity, He immediately
fainted. “Oh, here is My Lord.” Not like us: “Oh, here is some
statue.” No. It is the question of appreciation. So you appreciate or
not appreciate, the Deity is the Supreme Personality of Godhead
personally. We should always remember. So we shall be very careful
before the Deity, not to commit offense. In serving Him, in offering
Him prasadam, in dressing Him, we should always think, “Here is
personally Krsna.” He is personally, but due to our lack of knowledge,
we cannot understand it.

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passion and ignorance, the ignorance and passion are base quality, and
goodness is first-class quality. So the human life means we are born
either in the base qualities… Nobody is born in the first-class
quality. One who is born in this material world… May be somebody has
taken his birth in the mode of goodness, but very rare. But maybe.
Mostly they are born in the base qualities, ignorance and passion. But
the sastras are there. Anyone can be raised to the first-class quality
by training. That is human civilization.

janmana jayate sudrah
samskarad bhaved divjah
veda-pathad bhaved vipro
brahma janatiti brahmanah

This is the process. When you take your birth, that birth is not
significant–a sudra, fourth-class man. Everyone is born fourth-class
man. So if you keep them fourth class and degrade them into fifth
class, sixth class, then how there will be peace? How there will be
peace? Therefore in your country, in America, they are now perplexed,
“Crime, Why and What to Do?” Because you kept them fourth class, and
they are going down to be fifth class, sixth class, how you can expect
peace? It is not possible. If you do not elevate them… He is already
born sudra, janmana jayate sudrah. Now you have to reform him.
Samskarat. Samskara means reforming. You are born sudra. You are
inclined to do something, so many things–intoxication, illicit sex
and drinking and gambling and meat-eating. These are all sudra
qualities or less than that. Sudras also, they abide by the Vedic
orders. Sudras also do not do whimsically whatever he likes. Sudras,
they are taken among the, in the Vedic society… Because sudras also,
they are last class, fourth class, they are eager to follow the orders
or the orderly things as given by the brahmanas. Therefore sudras, up
to sudras, accepted as bona fide classification. And below the sudras,
they are called candalas, candalas, fifth grade. They are also
mentioned, kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasah. Everything is analyzed.
So human civilization should be to raise the fourth-class man to
the first-class man. That is human civilization. But there is no idea
who is first-class man. Everyone is a drunkard, everyone is illicit
sex hunter, and everyone is gambler, and everyone is meat-eater. Where
is first-class man? There is no first-class man. All fourth-class man.
And they are being taught simply how to manufacture big, big
skyscraper, and every year, new model of car. Is that civilization?
That is not civilization. You may be advanced in technology. So
technology means technician. Suppose a man knows how to work in
electricity, in so many things. Does it mean he is a learned man? No.
Learned, first-class man, that is given in the Bhagavad-gita: samo
damah satyam sucis titiksa arjavam jnanam, vijnanam astikyam
brahma-karma svabhava-jam. These are the first class. There is nothing
mentioned that “electrician” or a “motor mechanics” and a…
(laughter) So you are misled. Therefore you are facing this crisis,
that “Crimes, and Why and What to Do?” So unless you take to Krsna
consciousness, how to create first-class man, you are doomed. You must
know this. Therefore, those who have taken to Krsna consciousness, it
is my request that you help your countrymen how to become… At least,
there must be a section of men first-class so that people will see.
They are appreciating. I know that. When I was going from Los Angeles

… So one Ajamila was delivered by chanting Narayana’s name, you can
deliver many millions of Ajamila. The process is the same. The process
has not changed. Therefore he is quoting that itihasam atra
codaharanti imam itihasam puratanam. It is spiritual. It is not that
now the mode has changed. No. What was potent millions of years ago,
that is potent still. That is spiritual. It does not change. Therefore
it is said, itihasam puratanam. Although it is very old, but the
effect is the same, effect is the same. In the old times people used
to eat and get satisfaction; the same satisfaction is now also.

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duhkhalayam asasvatam. Duhkha means unhappiness; alayam means place.
Duhkhalayam asasvatam. That is also temporary. Duhkhalayam asasvatam,
napnuvanti mahatmanam samsiddhim paramam gatah. So this is place of
duhkhalayam. Any commonsense man can understand that Krsna says in the
Bhagavad-gita… You may challenge, “Where is the unhappiness? We are
very happy.” Madmen. Krsna points out, “No, it is not place of
happiness.” Why it is not place of happiness? Now, janma-mrtyu-jara
vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. Why don’t you see the real unhappiness?
This is real duhkha, or unhappiness. What is that?
Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. You have to die. You have to take birth
within the womb with so much risk that even your mother can kill you.
Is it very happiness? At the present moment the mother… When the
child sleeps very peacefully, that “I am on the lap of my mother,” now
the time has come when the mother is killing the child. So is it very
happiness place? That you cannot trust even your mother, what to speak
of others. The time has come, degraded, that… Naturally a child, he
thinks, “I am safe now with my mother.” But the Kali-yuga is so cruel
that even with mother you are not safe. And still you say it is a
place of happiness? This is called illusion. It is not place.

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practical. Simply theoretical knowledge, no practical application–he
is not brahmana. Therefore Krsna said, guna-karma. Only guna is not
good. Guna and karma. Karma means some act. Suppose you are initiated
as a brahmana. That is not finish, that “Now I am initiated. I have
got sacred thread. I can do all nonsense thing.” No. You must act as a
brahmana. Then you are brahmana. You always remember that. They are
criticizing in India that I am giving a brahmana’s position to these
mlecchas and yavanas. You should be very careful so that we may not be
subjected to criticism. If there are so many foreign brahmanas in
India and I am making brahmana in the Western countries, if they are
still fallen, then what is this attempt? My attempt is futile. So
kindly be responsible, those who are second initiated. If you fall
down, then the whole movement becomes false. That is happening. So
kindly rectify if that is happening, that guna-karma. You must acquire
the qualities and must act accordingly. That is practical. Suppose one
man is educated as medical man, but after taking his degrees he is
playing football. So will anybody call him a medical man? He might
have the qualification, medical qualification, but because he is not
practicing as medical man he is useless. That is the sastra
injunction. Yady anyatrapi drsyeta tat tenaiva vinirdiset. If one has
acquired some quality but he practices differently, then he should be
called by the name of that practice. A medical man, after passing
medical examination–I am giving you crude example–if he is, he
becomes a football player, then he will be called a football player,
not a medical man. These are the sastric injunction.

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The Vedic civilization, the brahmanas, they used to live in the
forest, and the king would offer them some cows. So they will draw
some milk. And in the forest there are fruits, so they will eat fruits
and milk. And if the disciples go to the village, beg some food grain,
then sometimes they cook some food grains. Otherwise the brahmanas
used to live in the forest, drink milk and take fruit. That is
sufficient. There was no need of jumping here and there. Anywhere you
keep cows. And what cows to maintain? No expenditure. The fruits? The
skin thrown away, and the cow will eat. And in exchange it will give
you nice foodstuff, milk. Or it will eat in the grazing ground, some
grass. So there is no expenditure of keeping cows, but you get the
best food in the world. The proof is that the child born simply can
live on milk. That is the proof. So anyone can live only on milk. If
you have got the opportunity to drink one pound milk maximum, not very
much–half-pound is sufficient; suppose one pound–then you don’t
require any other foodstuff. Only this cow’s milk will help you. It is
so nice. And it gives very nice brain, not pig’s brain. So it is so
important thing. Other…, why Krsna says go-raksya? He did not say
that “pig-raksya.” No. “Dog-raksya.” No. Now they are interested in
dog-raksya instead of cow-raksya. This is the civilization. They’ll
spend millions of dollars for dog, not for cow.
So this kind of civilization will not bring any peace and
prosperity. You have to take Krsna’s civilization if you want
actually… That is human civilization. That is stated in the

bhoktaram yajna-tapasam
suhrdam sarva-bhutanam
jnatva mam santim rcchati

If you actually want santi, peace, then you try to understand only
three things. What is that? Sarva-loka-mahesvaram: Krsna is the
proprietor of everything. Just like we ask every day, “Who is the
proprietor of the sea?” They do not know. Theories. But Krsna said, “I
am the proprietor,” sarva-loka-mahesvaram, “not only of this sea.”
This Pacific Ocean is only one, insignificant. There are millions of
Pacific Ocean flying in the sky. So who is the proprietor?
Sarva-loka-mahesvaram. Krsna says, “I am.” You are not proprietor.
There must be some proprietor. So who is that proprietor? Krsna says,
“I am the proprietor.” You have to know it, whether Krsna is not
proprietor. He says, “I am proprietor,” but if you are doubtful, prove
that He is not proprietor. But that you cannot do. Or bring another
person who can claim like that, that “I am the proprietor.”
… So let us (sic:) admission by Caitanya Mahaprabhu: krsnas tu
bhagavan svayam. Yare dekha tare kaha krsna-upadesa. Caitanya
Mahaprabhu’s, this Krsna consciousness movement propagana, what is
this propaganda? He says that “Every one of you become guru.” He wants
not rascal imitation guru but real guru. That He wants. Because people
are in darkness, we require many millions of gurus to enlighten them.
Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission is, He said, that “Every one
of you become guru.” Amara ajnaya guru haya tara ei desa. You haven’t
got to go foreign countries. Wherever you are, you teach; become guru.
It doesn’t matter. Ei desa. He says, ei desa. If you have got power,
you can go other country, but it doesn’t require. In whichever
village, whichever country or town you are, you become a guru. This is
Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission. Amara ajnaya guru haya tara ei desa.
“This country, this place.” So, “But I have no qualification. How can
I become guru?” There is no need of qualification. “Still I can become
guru?” Yes. “How?” Yare dekha tare kaha krsna-upadesa: “Whomever you
meet, you simply instruct what Krsna has said. That’s all. You become
guru.” Everyone is very anxious to become guru, but rascal does not
know how to become guru, a simple thing. So many gurus come from India
in this country, all rascal, but they will not speak what Krsna has
instructed. Maybe for the first time this has begun in Krsna
consciousness. Otherwise all rascals, they instructed something else,
some meditation, this, that, all cheating.
Real guru is he who instructs what Krsna has said. It is not that
you maufacture your teaching. No. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu. There
is no need of manufacturing. The instruction is already there. You
have simply to say, “This is this.” That’s all. Is it very difficult
task? Father said, “This is microphone.” A child can say that “Father
said this is microphone.” He becomes guru. Where is the difficulty?
The authority, father, has said, “This is microphone.” A child only
can say, “This is microphone.” So similarly, Krsna says that “I am the
Supreme.” So if I say, “Krsna is the Supreme,” where is my difficulty,
unless I cheat others to become the Krsna or the Supreme? That is
cheating. But if I say the simple truth, that “Krsna is the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. He is the proprietor of everything. He is to
be worshiped,” then where is my difficulty?
So that is our mission. All of you who have come to Krsna
consciousness movement, that is our request, that you, all of you,
become guru but don’t speak nonsense. That is request. Simply speak
what Krsna has said. Then you become brahmana. You’ll be guru, and
Thank you very much. (end)

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alternate day, not daily. One day starving, and the next day, a little
butter. But he was observing his regulative principles, taking thrice
daily bath and offering dandavat, what is called? Counting, numerical.
Just like we count twenty-five rounds minimum, so Raghunatha dasa
Gosvami was also chanting by counting. Similarly, he was offering
dandavat. You offer dandavat, the same way. That is also counting.
Sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih. Sankhya-purvaka, keeping a
strength, a numerical strength, just like we are advised at least
sixteen rounds. So these things were going on. Not that because he was
taking little butter alternate day, he lost his strength. No. The
strength was all right. So the fasting means if you don’t feel weak,
then you fast. Not that you imitate Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. That is
not possible in the beginning. But it is possible if you practice, if
you practice. Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau catyanta-dinau ca yau
sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih kalavasani-krtau. So everything is
possible. But that is advanced spiritual life. It is no use imitating
a higher authority, Haridasa Thakura. Just like he was chanting not
sixteen rounds, but 164 rounds. So that is not possible. Gradually,
sanaih sanaih, gradually, we have to practice.

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impersonal. Then, as you gradually increase, then Paramatma
realization. That is meditation. That is meditation.
Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yoginah. The yogis, by
meditation, they observe the Supreme Personality of Godhead Visnu
within the heart. That is yoga system perfection. And above that,
there is personal realization, Bhagavan. So when you realize the
Personality of Godhead, then you become a Vaisnava. This is gradual
…dasi-patih, contacted and remained as husband, wife, or friend. So by
the contact of this prostitute, the result was nasta-sadacara, he
became lost of all gentle activities. Nasta-sadacara. Sadacara
means… Sat means gentle, and acara means behavior, gentleman’s
behavior. What is that gentleman’s behavior? That we teach, that “You
don’t take meat, don’t have illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication,
rise early in the morning, take bath, chant Hare Krsna, attend
mangala-aratrika.” These are called sadacara. So on account of his
contact with this prostitute, although he was born in a brahmana
family and he was reformed up to the point of initiation, he fell a
victim. And as soon as he fell victim to that prostitute,
nasta-sadacara. Dasyah sam… Why sadacara, why he should lose? Dasyah
samsarga-dusitah. Because he is associating with this prostitute,
therefore the next sequence is that he should be bereft of all gentle
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whatever people will give, that’s all right. People used to give
brahmana. So pathana-pathana yajana-yajana dana-pratigraha. A brahmana
would receive… People were very honest, that “This man is teaching
our children. He does not charge. This man is teaching me how to
worship, how to become well behaved.” So they have no scarcity,
enough. So he would simply use as much as he required; balance he will
give in charity. Not that keep in stock for tomorrow. No. That is not
brahmana’s business. Whatever is come today, I use it for my
necessities of life, and balance, I give to the poor or somebody else,
somebody else, somebody…, or make some festival. So pathana-pathana
yajana-yajana dana-pratigraha. So we require some income for our
maintenance. So this was the brahmana’s business. There is no question
of doing some business or making some profession or going to the
office or going to the factory. This is not brahmana’s business.

result. As you reap so you…, as you sow, so you reap. Therefore this
movement is specially meant for making first-class, second-class men
at least. Or even third class, fourth class. But what is this? You are
producing sixth-class, seventh-class, tenth-class men, and you expect
that there will be no crime, people will be happy, it will be
peaceful? That is not possible. If you want to be happy, peaceful,
then you must take this movement, Krsna consciousness, and try to
create at least a group of men first class. Just like we are doing
that. People will see their behavior, their character, their mode of
life, and at least they will be attracted.

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Prabhupada: Anyway, so bandi. Bandi means now especially in the United
States, nobody goes out at night. No gentleman goes out at night. In
our Brooklyn temple nobody goes out at night. Just see. America is so
advanced in civilization, and the result is that one cannot go on a
street at night. In India it is so poverty-stricken. Still, even in
villages, they are freely moving, man, woman, at dead of night. They
know there is no danger. Still, although they are so poverty-stricken
now… You will be surprised that in 1942 there was an artificial
famine created by the government. People suffered starvation, and poor
men, they died out of starvation. But there was no report of stealing.
No report. One American gentleman went there, “If this is the
condition in our country, there would have been revolution. And these
people do not even steal others’ properties, dying starvation.” Lonely
man is going. He will arrest him, “Give me whatever you have got.
Otherwise I will kill you.” So this is bandi.

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So this is moral education, and in the sastra it is also said that
there are seven mothers:

adau mata guru-patni
brahmani raja-patnika
dhenur dhatri tatha prthvi
saptaita matarah

Real mother and guru-patni, the wife of spiritual master or teacher.
Adau mata guru-patni, brahmani, the wife of a brahmana, and
raja-patnika, the queen, she is also mother, raja. Dhenu, cow. Dhenu,
dhatri, nurse. Dhenur dhatri tatha prthvi, as well as the earth. Earth
is mother because she is giving us so many things, fruits, flowers,
grains for our eating. Mother gives for eating, cow gives us milk.
This is sense. But if one becomes addicted to prostitute hunting then
he will be fallen. That is the example. Then he’ll become thief,
rascal, cheater, drunkard, and so on, so on, so on.

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So we should be very serious. We should not fall down from the
standard of Vedic culture. If you are actually serious about stopping
this, manah sasthani indriyani prakrti-sthani karsati. This is
struggle for existence. In this material world everyone is struggling
to survive. But who is surviving? That way, materialistic way of life
will not help you to survive. That is prakrteh kriyamanani. Nature is
so strong that you must die. “I am very strong.” You may be very
strong, that’s all right. There is a, I mean to say, joking story that
one man thought how to avoid death–Hiranyakasipu. So he thought that
the Yamaraja is the superintendent of death, he comes to take. So I
shall make such policy that he may not come to me. What is that
policy? “Bring some stool. I shall smear over my body, and out of bad
smell he will not come.” So he began to smear stool on his body at the
time of death. So this is going on. They are making body very stout
and strong so they will survive. Nobody will survive, sir, unless he
is Krsna conscious.
Thank you very much.
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Otherwise it is waste of time. That is not the Vedic system, simply
waste of time. And if there is really talk between one philosopher to
another philosopher… Just like Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya and Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya was a great scholar, and Caitanya
Mahaprabhu…? Who can speak about scholarship? So Sarvabhauma
Bhattacarya was defeated by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He was elderly
person. There may be talks on philosophy, but if one party is
defeated, the defeated person, he must be disciple of the winning,
victorious party. But at the present moment we’ll go on talking for
years together, and nobody is defeated; nobody is going to be
disciple. Then what is the use of talking like that? So this kind of
things will not do. We have to follow the Vedic principle that either
remain without guru… And if you want to make a guru, first of all be
convinced that “He is fit to become my guru.” But generally people,
they don’t want transcendental knowledge. They want some material
profit. So if the guru can give him some gold, not all, then he
accepts him guru or the God or something like that. So this way will
not help us.

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So Sukadeva Gosvami, therefore, he remained within the womb of his
mother for sixteen years. And as soon as he got out from the mother’s
womb, immediately he left home. You will read in Bhagavatam. So father
was going after. After all, father, that “This boy, going out. My dear
son, come back. Where you are going? Where you are going?” He didn’t
care. He didn’t care. He went away. There are persons like that. They
don’t want to be attached to this material affection. Mayara vaibhava.
These are expansion of the illusory energy. That is sense. That is
first-class understanding. Actually, there is no need of this material
world. Just like somebody says that “If all the prisoners become free,
how the prisonhouse will go on?” And is it a very good proposal? The
prisonhouse, as soon as it is stopped, as soon as it is closed, that
is good for the society. Why there should be prisonhouse at all? But
they want to maintain the prisonhouse and very anxious, “If people all
are set free, then who will fill up this prisonhouse?” They question
that, that “If all people go to back to home, back to Godhead, then
how this world will go on?” (laughter) That is their anxiety. But we
say the sooner you close this business and all of you go back to home,
back to Godhead, then everything is very nice.

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So in the fire the soul cannot be adahyo ‘yam, it cannot be
burned. And we get information, as there are worms in everything,
earth, water, fire… In the fire there are worms. They are called
agni-po(?). Where is the scientist? But we get this information from
the sastra. Agni-po(?), worms within the fire. And Krsna says, above
all–this is also Krsna’s statement–imam vivasvate yogam proktavan
aham avyayam. There is kingdom. There is city. There is population.
Otherwise, how Krsna went there long, long ago, forty millions of
years, and He instructed this Bhagavad-gita to the sun-god? Vivasvan,
his name, is also there. Not fictitious. This is the parampara system.
Imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam.

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knows what is that struggle for existence and what is the platform of
becoming fittest. Nobody knows. It is we are preaching. If you remain
in this material world, then struggle for existence will continue. And
fittest means one who has come to the spiritual platform. He is
fittest to survive. What is survival? Who is going to survive? Do you
mean to say that by cultivating health culture, big, strong, and you
will survive? Nobody will survive. So who will survive? Only Krsna
conscious. If he is strictly Krsna conscious, then he will survive.
Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti. The Krsna conscious person
who has studied Krsna only (?) perfectly, then he is fit. This body is
also… This body is not permanent, that’s a fact. But tyaktva deham,
after giving up this body, no more material body–spiritual body.
So we should be very serious. We should not fall down from the

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you open a varnasrama college, there will be no student. Because they
will think, “What is this nonsense, varnasrama? Let us learn
technology. We shall get good salary. We shall earn money.” Yes. So
Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately said, eho bahya, age kaha ara. In this
age it is not possible, varnasrama-dharma.

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So everyone is engaged in so-called duties but forget the real
duty. This is called maya. By the spell of maya we forget what is the
objective of life, what is the aim of life. This is called maya. We
are thinking this is our duty. No. Real duty in the human form of life
is here is a chance whether you want to go to home to back to Godhead
or again you want to go to hell, the repetition of birth and death.
That is your choice.
Otherwise why there are so many scriptures,
religious system, all over the world? It is not only in India.
According to the capacity of understanding, in every civilized human
society there is a system called religion. It may be Hindu religion,
Christian religion or Buddha religion–these are major religious
systems–but the aim is how to make a solution of the problems of
life. That… But because they do not seriously discuss nowadays the
religious propensity, tendency of the human society decrease. It has
become a also money-making business. The priestly order, they think
that “As others make some money by working hard, by professional or by
doing some business or working, so we shall also earn some money by
showing the church or temple or the mosque.” They have taken it like
Therefore people have lost faith in religion. This is the reason.
Because those who are in charge of the religious department, the
brahmanas, those who are in charge of religion, the priestly order or
the maulanis (?) or the brahmanas, they’re the same order, their duty
is to keep people enlightened in the real mission of life. That is
their duty. But if they’re also doing the same thing, sense
gratification, how long they can cheat others? Therefore people have
lost faith in religion. This is the reason. But that is not good.
Because the system of religion has become polluted, we should not give
up religion. That is our prime duty. Karamayi tasya eka bhusesya (?).

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So this is natural. Similarly, we have got a natural feeling for
Krsna. If you study thoroughly, that is called meditation, that “Whom
I love.” Say for the first time, I love my body. If there is some
danger I try to protect myself from the danger. That means I love my
body. So the next question will be: “Then why don’t you love a dead
body?” Suppose your wife or husband, you love, because the husband and
wife is in the body, dehino ‘smin yatha dehe. So I love the body
because the spirit soul is there. This is right conclusion. Otherwise
who is going to love a dead body? Nobody. Now if wife’s husband has
died, son has died, he’s crying. You can say that “Why you are
crying?” “Oh, my son is gone, my husband is gone.” “Nobody gone. It is
lying here.” “No, no, no. He’s not.” So after death we understand that
this dead body is neither my husband nor my son. Late experience. But
in the beginning there is no such experience. That is called illusion.
He’s understanding that this dead body is not neither my father, nor
my husband, nor my son. He’s different from. That is practical
example. Otherwise why not take the dead body of your husband or son
and keep it? No. That is not possible.
So it is clear that the soul is different from the body. But
because we are fools and rascals, we learn it after death. That is
foolishness. Not in the beginning. In the beginning the Bhagavad-gita
says, Krsna says, that asmin dehe, “Within this body, the soul is
there.” “No, no. I don’t believe.” Dull brain cannot understand. But
after death, he sees, “Yes. The body’s not my son. The body’s not my
husband.” So that is foolishness. The foolish person understands late,
and the intelligent person understands very quickly. That is the
difference. So I love my body. I love my husband’s body, my wife’s
body. Why? The real husband, wife or son is within the body. Therefore
we love. Then the conclusion is that the soul is important more than
the body. Then the question will be that “Why you love the soul?” Then
the answer will be “Because the soul is part and parcel of Krsna.”
Krsna says, mamaivamso jiva-bhuta. So ultimately the conclusion is
that I love Krsna and, because the soul is part and parcel of Krsna,
therefore I love the soul. And because the soul loves within this
body, therefore I love… There is no difficulty to understand. But so
long one is under illusion, he’s under the bodily concept of life.
Therefore sastra says that one who is in the bodily concept of life,
he’s animal. He’s animal.
Go-kharah. Go means cow and kharah means ass. I repeatedly say this.
So unless we understand that I and you, we are not this body, there is
no question of spiritual understanding or spiritual education.

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So we should utilize this time to make solution of the life that we
are repeatedly dying and again accepting another body. So how they
will understand unless they come to the proper guru? Therefore sastra,
says tad-vijnanartham: “If you want to know the real problem of your
life and if you want to be enlightened how to become Krsna conscious,
how to become eternal, go back to home, back to Godhead, then you must
approach the guru.” And who is guru? That is explained, very simple
thing. Guru never manufactures idea that “You do this and give me
money and you become happy.” That is not guru. That is another process
of earning money. So here it is said, mudha, everyone who is simply
living in the fool’s paradise, manufacturing his own ideas like
Ajamila… Somebody has taken, “This is my duty,” somebody has… He
is a fool. You must know what is your duty from guru. You are singing
every day, guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ar na koriho
mane asa. This is life. This is life. Guru-mukha-pad… You accept the
bona fide guru, and what he orders you, carry out. Then your life is
successful. Ar na koriho mane asa. You rascal, you do not desire
…that. But if he makes addition, alteration, then he is finished. No
addition, alteration. You have to approach guru–guru means the
faithful servant of God, Krsna–and take his word how to serve Him.
Then you are successful. If you concoct, “I am very intelligent than
my guru, and I can make addition or alteration,” then you are

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friends, small children, but the girls are married early, so they go
to their husband’s place, thirteen, fourteen years. But because they
prayed to Katyayani when they’re not married, they prayed to Katyayani
that “Krsna is so beautiful. Please give me Krsna as my husband.”
Krsna is all-attractive, so Krsna fulfilled their desire, and that is
vastranam. Of course, these things are not to be publicly discussed,
but still you are little interested in Krsna.

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wants apartment. Ato grha. Grha means apartment. So long he remains
brahmacari there is no need of apartment. He can dine right out on the
street. (laughter) But as soon as they’re joined together, immediately
apartment, grha. Then how to maintain the apartment? Then he must have
land. Because formerly there was no industry. Everyone must produce
his own food by tilling the field. So to produce food he must have
some land. So land was available, still available. One can produce.
But they have left that process of livelihood. They are taking to

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So when he was just on the point of death, naturally he had affection
for his son, so he was calling, “Narayana, Narayana, Narayana,
Narayana, please come here, please come here.” That is natural. I know
my father, when he was dying, so I was not at home. So he lived for
one day to see me. He was always inquiring “Whether Abhay has come
back, come back,” like that. So by the paternal affection he showed
that. Similarly, the Ajamila was also calling, “Narayana, Narayana.”
And in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, yam yam vapi smaran bhavam
tyajaty ante kalevaram. This practice means at the time of death if
one can remember Krsna, Narayana, then the whole life is successful.
At the time of death. Because the mentality, status of the mind at the
time of death, will carry him to the next life. Just like the flavor
is carried by the air, similarly, my mentality will carry me to a
different type of body. If I have created my mentality like Vaisnava,
pure devotee, then I shall immediately transfer to Vaikuntha. If I
created my mind as an ordinary karmi, then I will have to stay within
this material world to enjoy the type of mentality which I have
created. If I keep myself as a businessman, doing business…
Naturally it is done so. One gentleman in Calcutta, he was a very big
businessman, and he was dealing in shares. So at the time of death he
was crying, “Kamahatti, Kamahatti shares.” Kamahatti shares at that
time was very popular to the people. So at the time of his death the
result will be that he might have taken his birth as a rat in the
Kamahatti mill. It is possible. At the time of death, whatever you
think, that will carry you to a type of body. Krsna is very kind. Ye
yatha mam prapadyante. Anyone whoever begs from Krsna any any benefit,
any type of benefit required from Krsna, Krsna gives him: “All right.
You are thinking like rat, so you become a rat. You are thinking like
a tiger; you become a tiger. You are thinking like a devotee, you
become a devotee. You are thinking of Me, please come to Me.” That’s
all. Simple truth.
So by chanting Hare Krsna we have to mold our thinking power,
always thinking of Krsna. If you always think… That is recommended

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Actually sannyasa means to fully surrender.
Nowadays in India there are so many sannyasis, some three million
sannyasis. They are wandering all over the country. They have no food
problem. Still, although India is considered to be poverty-stricken.
Either sannyasi or grhastha, nobody has to have problem. You have
created such… Simply artificially you have created such problem.

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you think that “I’m the car…” The car is dead. The car is moving
because you are alive. Similarly, this dead body, this body is dead,
already dead from the very beginning, but it is moving on account of
the soul. This is knowledge. It is dead from the very beginning.
Therefore in the sastra it is said that… What is that? I am just now
forgetting. Oh, apranasya hi dehasya mandanam loka-ranjanam. Apranasya
hi dehasya. Deha, deha means this body. So either it is dead or alive,
it has no life. Apranasya hi dehasya. Deha, he is not alive. It is
always dead.

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So that practice is required. Simply by… Mahato bhayat. Here it
is also said, nisamya mriyamanasya mukhato hari-kirtanam. The
hari-kirtana is so glorious. If anyone at the time of death,
mriyamana, mriyamana, one who is just dying… In a Bengali proverb it
is said, parable, bhajan koro sadhan koro murte janle haya: “Whatever
you do, spiritual activities, they will be tested at the time of
death.” All your chants that you are practicing, this will be tested
at the time of death. If you can remember Krsna, Hare Krsna,
hari-kirtana, at the time of death, then you are successful..

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They saw that they were not ordinary men. With four hands. Because
within this universe, four hands, only Lord Brahma has got four hands.
Nobody has got four hands. But they were four-handed. So they
understood that “They are not ordinary living entities. They must be
some extraordinary demigods or some upadevata, almost like demigods.”
Siddha-sattamah: “Or you are coming from the Siddhaloka.”

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Revatinandana: It will all be one thing(?), spiritual into material or
Prabhupada: Material means when the consciousness is not Krsna. That
is material. The same example, that iron rod, if kept to the fire,
gradually it becomes warm, warmer, and at last it becomes red. When it
is red, it is no longer iron; it is fire. Similarly, by spiritual
association, your body gradually becomes spiritualized. And at the
perfection stage, there is no more material activities, simply the

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.. There is discussed in psychology also how this remembrance
comes all of a sudden. The example is given just like in a lake all of
a sudden you’ll find there is a bubble. So similarly, the mind is the
subtle matter. That is described in the Bhagavad-gita, bhumir apo
analo vayuh kham mano This gross is this land, bhumi, earth, straw.
Water is a little more subtle. Just like in land you can stand, but in
the water you cannot stand. It has become little subtle. Then fire,
then air, and then ether. This is the position, from gross to subtle.
And then mind. Still finer than the ether is the mind. And then
intelligence. And then false ego, and then the soul. These are the
different position.
So we have to go to the platform of soul. That is spiritual
education. But there are so many other stages. Somebody’s stopping in
the mind. He’s thinking that this is the final. Philosophy, poetry,
imagination, the mind mental… As we see that mostly your Western
philosophers, they are stuck up on the platform of mind. That’s all.
They’re thinking this is the final. So far I’ve studied only Socrates.
He has reached up to the point of soul. Otherwise, all Western
philosophers, they’re on the mental platform. So anyway, we have to go
farther, farther. So the dreaming is the function of the subtle body,
namely mind, intelligence and false ego. You’re not free, the subtle
body. So those who have no knowledge how material things are acting,
covering the soul, they utmost they can think of the mind, the
activities of the mind–thinking, feeling, willing, psychology, or
writing some books, some mental speculation philosophy. They think
this is final. That is not final. You have to go farther to the
intellectual platform, then egoism, then soul. That is described in
the Bhagavad-gita:

indriyani parany ahur
indriyebhyah param manah
manasas tu para buddhir
buddhes tu ya para sah

Krsna is giving all intelligence. That is, through gross
understanding, this indriya, the senses.
So those who are in the lowest stage of knowledge they are in the
bodily concept of life–the indriya, the senses. Just like cats and
dogs, they cannot think more than that. So, but Krsna advises, “No,
don’t stop here.” Indriyani parany ahur. Bodily concept of life, sense
pleasure, they think it is all. There is no more other. Those who are
little above the bodily concept of life, they find pleasure in the
mind. And farther, they find pleasure in intellectually. And in this
way the thing is very complicated. It requires very cool brain to
understand all these things. But those who are meat-eaters, they are
very troubled. They cannot understand. For them the subject matter is
very, very difficult. That is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,

nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanad
bhavausadhac chrotra-mano-‘bhiramat
ka uttamasloka-gunanuvadat
puman virajyeta vina pasu-ghnat

Pasu-ghna. Pasu means life, or living entity. Pasu-ghna, ghna means
killer. So unless one who is killing himself or killing this animal…
Both are killing. The killing of the animal in the slaughterhouse,
that is gross killing. And another killing is one who is killing
himself without knowledge. That is also killing. He got this human
form of life, but without sufficient knowledge he’s killing himself.
Mam aprapya. He cannot understand God. That is killing himself. This
human form of life was given to him by nature’s way, that “Now you
understand God.” But he’s wasting time by surfing in the water. You
see? He got the chance of understanding God–he doesn’t care for that.
He’s unnecessarily laboring whole day in the sea, so that he’s
developing the mentality at the time of, you think of swimming in the
water, and the subtle body will carry him to the fish journey.

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So he was calling his son, Narayana. So the parsadah,
visnu-parsadah–parsadah means associates or attendants–they
immediately came. Just like in your city, the police is wandering in
the car, and if somebody calls for police, immediately he is present,
similarly, the attendants of Lord Visnu, they are also wandering
throughout the universe and searching out somebody who is engaged in
chanting the holy name of the Lord. So if you chant holy name of the
Lord, they are very much pleased and they immediately come. That
happened to Ajamila. He did not mean Narayana. Maybe or may not be,
but he was calling his son. But the attendants of Hari, or the order
carriers, they took notice of the chanting only. That’s all. They did
not care to know by “Narayana,” Ajamila, what he was meaning.

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So anyone who is chanting the holy name of the Lord, he is taken
care of immediately by the attendants of the Supreme Lord, especially
at the time of death, because that is the last moment. The account is
taken at the last moment. If you practice Hare Krsna, naturally at the
last moment you will be inclined to chant Hare Krsna. Yam yam vapi
smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram. It is so nice. If we practice in
this life chanting Hare Krsna mantra, then gradually my core of heart
will be cleansed and everything will be manifest: my position, my
duty, what is God. Everything will be manifest. It is so nice.
Ceto-darpana-marjanam. Because we are filled up with so many rubbish
dirty things, we cannot understand the science of God. But if you be
practiced to chant Hare Krsna maha-mantra, then your heart will be
cleansed and you will see things as they are. Ceto-darpana-marjanam.
And as soon as we are able to see things as they are, then our
material bondage is over. Because first of all I will see… People
are making research work about the bodily cells, how they are working,
and so many things, simply on the body. But as soon as you become
cleansed of your heart, then immediately you understand, “I am not
this body, so what is the use of studying the cells and atoms and this
and that? I am not this body.” Immediately. “Actually, I am not this
body. I am simply wasting my time in studying.” The same thing,
example, that I am in the car, I am studying the machine only. I
forgot my destination, where I have to go. I am busy with studying the
car. What is the use? You must know. You have got a good car. You must
know where is the destination, where you have to go. That is your
business. The business… Of course, it is secondary. If you want to
know what is the car, that is secondary; that is not your main
business. The main business is how to utilize the car and go to my
destination. That is intelligence.

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So this is the benefit of chanting Hare Krsna maha-mantra. Both the
order carriers of Yamaraja and order carriers of Lord Visnu, they’re
everywhere, just like the police is everywhere. But as soon as you
call them, from the police’s station they immediately inform the
patrol police on the car, immediately he comes. If there is such
material arrangement within the government, how much nice arrangement
is there in the supreme government?
So we have to practice this, that Hare Krsna maha-mantra. If we
practice, there is chance at the time of death repeating the same
thing, Hare Krsna maha-mantra. So immediately you are saved, not to go
to the yama-mandira. The powerful name, holy name is as good as the
Supreme Personality of Godhead. There is no difference–absolute.
Absolute means… Just like here if I simply chant “mango, mango,
mango,” there is no mango. Mango is different from the name mango. If
I want to eat mango, the substance mango I must have. So there is
difference between the name and its substance. That is
material–duality. But in the absolute world there is…, means
there’s no duality. The name mango and mango: the same. This requires
advanced knowledge. So there is no difference between Krsna the name
and Krsna the person.. There is no difference.

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So this dasi-pati, this is also significant word, “the prostitute’s
husband.” Prostitute means… They are, in Sanskrit, called pumscali.
Pumscali means they are moved by other men, pumscali. There are three
kinds of women: sairindhri, pumscali… In this way there are
divisions. So some women, they are very easily carried by men. So that
is not very good. Therefore I am instructing our GBC’s that “Let our
little girls be educated to become faithful and chaste.” That is their
qualification. No education required. And the boys should be trained
up to become first-class men, samo damas titiksa, like that. And
literary, Sanskrit and English, that will make them perfect. If the
husband is first class and the wife is chaste and faithful, then the
home is heaven. This is the formula. Dampatyoh kalaho nasti tatra srih
svayam agatah.

murkha yatra na pujyante
dhanyam yatra susancitam
dampatyoh kalaho nasti
tatra srih svayam agatah

Everyone is trying to become fortunate. Now, Canakya Pandita gives
three things, formula, “If you want to be fortunate, then do these
three things.” What is that? Murkha yatra na pujyante: “Do not give
any credit to the rascal.” That is first qualification. Don’t be
carried away by the rascal. Murkha yatra na pujyante. If you worship a
rascal, then your life is spoiled. You must worship a really learned
representative of God. That is very good. And dhanyam yatra
susancitam: “Food grains, they are properly stocked.” Not that for
your foodstuff, getting your food grain or earning your livelihood,
you have to go hundred miles, fifty miles. No. At home, you produce
your food grain and stock it. In India still, they work for three
months during this rainy season, and they get their food grains for
the whole year. You can save time so nicely. So these things are
required for happy home….and the third thing, most important,
dampatyoh kalaho nasti: “There is no disagreement between husband and
wife.” If these three things are there, then you haven’t got to pray
to the goddess of fortune, “Kindly be merciful.” She will
automatically come. “Here is a very nice place. I shall stay here.”
So this Ajamila, he was dasi-pati. He was a husband of a
prostitute. So he was not happy. He was attached. Another thing is…
That is also Canakya Pandita. He says, dusta-bharya. Dusta-bharya
means this prostitute. Dusta, who is polluted by another man, he is
called dusta. Strisu dustasu varna-sankarah abhibhavat. Therefore
human civilization must be very careful that the women may not become
polluted. Strisu dustasu. Dusta means she is not satisfied with
husband. She wants new, new. That is called dusta. So Canakya Pandita
says, dusta-bharya: “If the wife is dusta,” dusta-bharya satham
mitram, “and friend is satham, hypocrite, talking very friendly, but
he has got something, design…” That is called satham mitram. Satham
means hypocrite. So “If somebody’s wife is dusta and friend is
hypocrite,” dusta-bharya satham mitram bhrtyas ca uttara-dayakah, “and
bhrtya, servant, does not obey, he argues with the master…” Master
says, “Why did you not do?” “Oh, I am this…” No argument. Bhrtya
should be very silent. Then he is faithful servant. Sometimes master
may be angry, but bhrtya should be silent. Then master becomes kind.
But if he replies on equal level, oh, then it is very bad.
Dusta-bharya satham mitram bhrtyas ca uttara-dayakah, sa-sarpe ca grhe
vasah: “And you are living in a apartment where there is a snake.” So
if these four things are there or one of them, not all the fours, then
mrtyur eva na samsayah: “Then you are doomed.” You are doomed. Your
life is spoiled.

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So you have to understand from the sastra, sastra-caksusa. The
Vedas say that you have to see through the sastra, through the
authoritative sastra. With these blunt eyes what can you see? You’re
so much anxious. Everyone says, “Can you show me God?” What you can
see? What is the power of your eyes? You cannot see even your eyelid.
The eyelid is attached to the eye. Can you see? So how you can see
God? You’re so imperfect. Just like if there is some particle within
the eyelid, we become embarrassed. But the eye is attached. Why not
see and take it away? This is practical. So what is the power of your
eyes? You cannot see the nearest and you cannot see distant place. You
cannot see in darkness. So many conditions. So you’re always under the
conditions, and you declare “Independent.” How foolishness it is. Your
senses are all imperfect. No senses are perfect. You can use the
senses under certain condition only. I’m claiming “This is my hand,”
and as soon as there is some nervous disability it is paralyzed,
So actually we are claiming that “This is mine,” but you have no
right to claim it. You’re dependent. Suppose if you live in a rented
apartment, you cannot claim that this is your apartment. It belongs to
the landlord. You’re allowed to stay here under certain conditions.
You’re not proprietor. Similarly, this body is Krsna’s. What is this
body? Bhumir apo analo vayuh kham mano buddhir… It is constituted of
these things: earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and
ego. And Krsna says, bhinna me prakrti astadha: “These are Mine, My
things.” You cannot create water. You cannot create earth. You cannot
create fire. You cannot create ether. Nothing. So this body is
pancabhuta, five elements. So you have not created. Krsna has created.
So how it is your body? It is Krsna’s body. He has given you the
concession that you can live. “You can live peacefully. You can enjoy
the products which are given to you. I have given you food grains. I
have given you fruits, flowers. Or, even if you want to eat meat, that
also I have given you.” You cannot produce an animal. So everything
you are eating, given by God. Your body is given by God. Your mind is
given by God. And you, you also the soul, you’re also part and parcel
of God. So what is your independent existence? There is no independent
existence. This is knowledge. Not only that. Because you have
forgotten that everything belongs to Krsna, He is also sitting within
you. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ‘rjuna… Sarvasya caham hrdi
sannivis… Again He says hrdi, “in the heart.” Sarvasya caham hrdi
sannivista, mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca. Everything is there.

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are not this, not this. We are eternally… Just like Caitanya
Mahaprabhu immediately says, gives to you the highest philosophy,
jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa. Tatastha-sakti jata acintya
bhedabheda-prakasa. In two lines He has given the whole idea of
jiva-tattva. Jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa. You can explain in
so many books these two lines. The real identity of the living entity
is that he is eternal servant of Krsna.

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like if you want to swim in the water, you have to learn it; you have
to practice it. But within the sea or water even a small fish, he can
very expertly swim, a born qualification. You cannot go against the
current of the sea or the water of the river, but a small fish takes
pleasure going against the current. Tulasi dasa has said that to go
against the current is very difficult. Even an elephant is washed
away. But a small fish, because he has taken shelter of the ocean, he
can go against the current. This is the… So if we take shelter of
Krsna, then even the current is against, we can go because… The same
example: the fish has taken shelter of the ocean. Although very small
animal, he can go against the…

…pita-kauseya-vasasah. In Vaikuntha, people, they also dress with
yellow cloth, pita-kauseya, or this saffron color. This is Vaikuntha
dress. Kauseya, pita, the dress, garments. Kiritinah: “with helmets.”
Kundalinah: “with nice earring.” Kiritinah kundalino
lasat-puskara-malinah, “and very nice flower garland.” This is
Vaikuntha dress. Lasat-puskara-malinah, sarve ca nutna-vayasah: all
young men. In Vaikuntha there is no old age, although they are
eternal. That is the real form of the spirit. The old age is due to
this body, material body. Material thing is born and stays for some
time, and then it is annihilated. So up to the time of annihilation,
it becomes so old, nasty, bad-looking. But in the Vaikuntha there is
no such thing. Nityah sasvato ‘yam.

… The Vaikuntha planet, because that is spiritual body, that is
nityah sasvatah. Never it become… Just like Krsna or Narayana or
Visnu. They are not old. You will find all these pictures of Narayana,
Visnu, Krsna–all young men. So they are also… The inhabitants of
Vaikuntha on the spiritual planet, they are also exactly of the same
feature. You everything get exactly like God. This is Vaikunthaloka.
The opulence is also like that. Sarsti. There are five kinds of mukti,
liberation. One is sayujya, to merge into the existence. That is also
mukti. But Vaisnava does not like such kind of mukti. They think to
merge, to become one with the Supreme and lost our individuality, that
is, Vaisnava thinks, as hell. Kaivalyam narakayate. Why? We shall keep
ourself, our individuality, the body exactly like Krsna. In the Goloka
Vrndavana they keep exactly like two-handed Krsna. In the Vaikuntha
they also keep themselves four-handed as Visnu, Narayana. So the
Vaisnavas are very intelligent. They want to keep themself in as good
as God. Sometimes more than God, Vaisnava. That is very intelligent.
What is the use of becoming one? I lose my individuality. So that is
jnani’s aspiration. But the bhaktas, they want to keep association
with Krsna or Visnu in the same opulence, same prosperity, everything,
bodily features the same, everything.

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dhanuh, bow; dhanur-nisanga asi, the arrows and the sword; gada, club;
sankha, conchshell; and cakra, disc. As Visnu has Sudarsana…
Sankha-cakra-gada-padma. There are fourteen different forms of Visnu
according to the position of the weapon in different hand, beginning
with sankha-cakra-gada-padma, then cakra-gada-sankha-padma, in this
way. These description are there in the Caitanya-caritamrta. And
according to the change of the weapon, the different names are there.
One visnu-murti is called Vamana; one murti is called Govinda. In this
way there are twenty-four forms of Visnu, sankha-cakra-gada-padma,
according to Their placing in different hands.

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That is not possible. Living entities are everywhere. Even
in the fiery planet like the sun, there are. But we are rascals. We
think everyone is rascal like us. Atmavat manyate jagat. If one is
rascal, he thinks all other rascals also. That is nature. He cannot
think that “Somebody is more intelligent than me.” He thinks, “I am
rascal; therefore everyone is rascal.” Atmavat manyate jagat. This is
the formula. You will find the example: just like a deaf man. He
speaks very slowly. He thinks the other man is also speaking slowly.
No. He is deaf. Other man is crying, but he is hearing very slow.
Therefore a deaf man speaks very slow. He thinks that he is speaking
slow. So atmavat manyate jagat. This is the nature.
So because we cannot live in the fire, it does not mean that there
is no such living entity whose body is made of fire. Because I cannot
live in the water, don’t think there is no living entity. Huge, big,
big living entities are there within the water. Why should you think
there is no living entity? Similarly, the watery living entities, they

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So markata-vairagya is not necessary. Real vairagya. We do not
indulge in so-called sannyasi or brahmacari. If one is unable, he must
become a grhastha, live like a grhastha, and not that “I pose myself
as a brahmacari or a sannyasi, but I have got illicit sex life
secretly.” This is markata-vairagya. Markata-vairagya is not wanted.
Real vairagya. Real vairagya means one who can sacrifice everything
for Krsna. That is vairagya. Karma-phala-tyaga–that is karma-yoga.
One should give up the result of his fruitive activities to Krsna.
That is karma-yoga. Anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah.
Anasritah karma-phalam. One who is not desirous to enjoy the fruits of
his activities, fruitive activities, anasritah karma-phalam, but does
it as a matter of duty… “Krsna wants it. Krsna will be satisfied by
doing this.” Karyam: “It must be done.” Just like Arjuna. Arjuna, for
his personal interest, he was not willing to fight. But when he
understood that “Krsna wants this fighting,” then he took it as
karyam: “It must be done. It doesn’t matter whether I like it or not,
but Krsna wants it. Therefore I must do it.” That is called anasritah
karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah, sa sannyasi. He is sannyasi. Na
niragnir na cakriyah. Niragnir and akriya. Akriya means they are
freed, all kinds of fruitive activities. So they are not sannyasis,
they are not yogis, but a yogi is he who gives away the result of his
activities to Krsna. Anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah.

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elevate them? For elevating them, this…, not the Vedic system is to
be followed but Pancaratriki. Pancaratriki… Just like we are trying
to elevate these Europeans and Americans according to
Pancaratriki-vidhi. Everyone should be followed. It is not that
Indians should not follow; only the others will. No. It is for
everyone, Pancaratriki-vidhi. The Pancaratriki-vidhi means that if
anyone has got little tendency for being elevated to the sreyah
platform, he should be given chance. That is called
Pancaratriki-vidhi. Just like diksa, initiation. Sudras are not given
initiation. A sudra cannot be initiated. Only the brahmanas can be
initiated, or dvija, or the vaisyas and the ksatriyas, the higher
caste, not the sudras. But according to Pancaratriki-vidhi, even the
sudras or less than the sudras, kirata-huunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa,
everyone can be initiated by a bona fide representative of Krsna, not
by others. That is the system.

Syamasundara: Does one become elevated by following the karma-yoga
principles only?
Prabhupada: It will take a long, long time, and failure is possible.
In this age, nothing is possible for the fallen people.

harer nama harer nama harer nama eva kevalam
kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha

This is the injunction. If you want to be elevated to the perfectional
stage of life, then you must chant this Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna
Krsna, Hare Hare. That will help you. No other method, measures, will
help you. You can try for it, but there is every chance of failure.
But if you follow this path, as enunciated by the sastras and
elaborated by Lord Caitanya, then there is chance. And actually we are
seeing that is being done.

Prabhupada: No, that is not for the advanced stage. Those who
cannot… Just like the materialistic persons, they cannot understand
why we are worshiping Deity. They are puzzled. They think, “Why these
fools are taking one brass doll and worshiping as God?” They laugh.
You see? They cannot understand. They are hard… What is called? It
is impossible for them. Therefore they have been recommended that “You
think of God, the universal form.” That they like, their meditation,
that universal form. They cannot understand or concentrate on this
form, krsnas tu bhagavan svayam, dvi-bhuja-muralidhara, Syamasundara
form. They cannot. But by this arca process we are giving chance to
everyone. But for the materialistic person it is difficult. They think
that they are idol worshipers. But actually, the Vaisnavas, they are
not so fools that they will worship an idol. Therefore they have been
recommended to concentrate on the universal form.

Revatinandana: We always encourage chanting Hare Krsna, is that so?
Prabhupada: Yes. That is the only method in this age. By chanting Hare
Krsna, one’s… The reservoir of understanding will be cleared. And
then you, he can receive, he can receive the spiritual knowledge.
Without cleansing the heart it is very difficult to understand and
receive spiritual knowledge. All these reformatory
measures–brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha–they are simply the
cleansing method. And bhakti is also a cleansing method, vidhi-bhakti.
But by engaging oneself in this Deity worship, he also becomes
cleansed. Tat-paratve… Sarvopadhi… As he becomes enlightened or
advanced in understanding that he is eternal servant of Krsna, he
becomes purified. He becomes purified. Sarvopadhi means he doesn’t…
Sarvopadhi. He tries to eliminate his upadhi, his designation, that “I
am American,” “I am Indian,” “I am this,” “I am that.” So in this way,
when you become fully eliminated of this bodily concept of life, then
nirmalam. He becomes nirmala, uncontaminated.

properly, not like that. Sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah. Arcayam eva
haraye… Even in this process, when they are engaged in Deity
worship, arcayam haraye yat-pujam sraddhayehate, with great devotion
doing, but na tad bhaktesu canyesu, but he has no sympathy with others
or he does not know what is the position of a devotee, then sa bhaktah
prakrtah smrtah: “He is called material devotee, material devotee.” So
we have to elevate ourselves from material devotional stage to the
second platform when one can understand what is a devotee, what is a
nondevotee, what is God, what is atheist. These discriminations are
there. And in paramahamsa stage there is no such discrimination. He
sees everyone is engaged in service of the Lord. He does not envy

Revatinandana: You must be higher than the paramahamsa stage,
Prabhupada: I am lower than you. I am lower than you.
Revatinandana: You are so beautiful. You are paramahamsa, but still,
you are preaching to us.
Prabhupada: No, I am lower than you. I am the lowest of the all
creatures. I am simply trying to execute the order of my spiritual
master. That’s all. That should be the business of everyone. Try best.
Try your best to execute the higher order. That is the safest way of
progressing. One may be in the lowest stage, but if he tries to
execute the duty entrusted upon him, he is perfect. He may be in
lowest stage, but because he is trying to execute the duty entrusted
to him, then he is perfect. That is the consideration. (break) Back to

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are eating sins, and therefore the world is in trouble. Simply
committing. There is no necessity of killing animals. But here in
India they are killing ten thousand cows daily, what to speak of
Western countries. So people are so much addicted to sinful
activities. How they can be happy? They are condemned. Only this
movement, Krsna consciousness, if they take to this movement, they can
be saved. Otherwise, there is no saving.

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the nondevotees are taken. Those who are devotees, they are not taken.
That is… You will find in the Bhagavata, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Yamaraja
especially instructs that “Those who are Vaisnavas, you should not go
there. You should offer your respect to them.” Somebody asked me that
“Swamiji, why these tulasi beads in your neck or your devotees’ neck?”
So I replied, “Just like a pet dog has got a collar, similarly we are
pet dogs of God. We have got this collar. And Yamaraja will understand
that ‘He is God’s dog. He should not be shot down.’ ” (laughter)

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Devotee (3): Prabhupada, you said that the greatest offense is to
chant thinking that “My sins will be washed away” and commit sins, or
wants to.(?) So what is the result that that person gets if he dies in
that condition?
Prabhupada: He dies a sinful. Because he does not want to go back to
Godhead, he wants to make some profit, so he dies sinful, and he has
to be punished for that reason, in spite of his false this tilaka and
false mala. He’ll be punished. Yes?

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So the question is, they are challenged, “What is dharma and what
is adharma? If you are servant of Dharmaraja, you must distinguish
what is dharma.” So even though the Yamadutas, they are not very
good-looking as the Visnudutas, still, this question was put to them
to explain. They are not very much civilized, you may say. Still, they
are expected to know this distinction. Just see. Even the Yamadutas
were how much advanced, and how we are advanced? We do not know what
is dharma, what is adharma. We don’t make any distinction. Dharma
is… We have repeatedly said: dharma means to surrender to Krsna,
simple. And adharma means everything except this. If you don’t
surrender to Krsna, then whatever you are doing, that is adharma,
means nonreligious. Therefore in the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is said,
dharmah projjhita-kaitavah atra. Kaitava means cheating, false, (sic:)
pretendous. So all kinds of cheating religion is kicked out. Cheating
religions, they are teaching that “We can create God. As we can create
television, similarly, we can create God.” They are teaching, “This is
dharma.” Just see how degraded they have… And these things are going
on as dharma. Bruta dharmasya nas tattvam. Tattvam. Tattvam means
truth. “Don’t talk nonsense. Don’t waste time.” Tattvam: “In truth,
what is dharma?” Bruta dharmasya nas tattvam yac ca adharmasya
laksanam: “And how you distinguish from adharma, nonreligious thing?”
Knowledge means you should know both things, not one side. You must
know what is religious system and what is not religious system. Simply
one side is not full knowledge. Upayam ca cintayet prajna, apayam ca
cintayet(?). Just like if you want to do some business, you have
calculated that “I shall invest so much money, and I shall get so much
profit. So let us do this business. It is very nice.” But sastra says,
“No, you have simply calculated the profit, and you also calculate no
profit, not one-sided.” Similarly, to know dharma, you must know
adharma also, the opposite side. If you know white, you should know
what is black. Otherwise the knowledge is not… Relative. This world
is… If you know the father, then you must know the son. Or if you
know the son, then you must know the father. So in the religious
system, if one knows the son, the further improvement is to know the
father. That is required. Otherwise incomplete. If you simply know the
son of God, then it is incomplete. If you know the father of the son
of God, then it is complete.

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This is very nice challenge. Suppose if somebody, if you say that
“We are Krsna conscious persons.” So one may challenge you, “First of
all, explain what do you know about Krsna?” That is quite natural. If
you do not know about Krsna, you have no right to say that “I belong
to the Krsna consciousness movement.” You have not right to say. So
your position is like that, simply if you have a tilaka and a kanthi,
that does not mean that you belong to the Krsna consciousness
movement. Any cheater can do that. You must know the philosophy. If
one challenges, you must reply. Therefore Bhaktivinoda Thakura has
sung a song indicating these cheaters. He says, ei oto ek kalir
cela(?). “Here is a servant of Kali.” What kind of cela? Na te tilal
golai mala (?). “He has got a tilaka and golai mala, bas, that’s all.”
He does not know what is the philosophy. If you do not know the
philosophy of Krsna consciousness, if you simply mark your body with
tilaka and kanthi, then you are not proper servant, you are not
qualified. So tilaka, mala, is necessary. Just like a policeman. A
bogus man, if he dresses like a policeman, he is not a policeman. He
must know what is the police law, criminal law, who is to be punished,
who is not to be punished, what is criminality, what is innocence. All
these things he must know.

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This morning I was asking that why there is Sunday first and Monday
second? Who can answer? Is there anyone in this meeting who can answer
my, this simple question? Why, all over the world, the, everyone
accepts Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Sambar, Mangalbar,
Bhurbar, the same thing? There may be different language. And Saturday
is last. Why this arrangement? Who can answer? Is there anyone? I’ve
asked this simple question to so many. Even Svarupa Damodara, our
doctor Ph.D., he has not yet answered. And I’ve asked this question to
Dr. Wolfe also. He’s not present here?
Devotee: “Someone has an answer.”
Prabhupada: You have got answer?
Caitanya-simha: Because Sunday is God’s day. Sunday is Krsna’s day.
Prabhupada: That is your sentiment. Speak scientifically. Nowadays,
the scientific days, you have to speak scientifically.
Devotee: The order of the planets.
Prabhupada: Yes, that is the answer.

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Truth means how to see. Pasyanti jnana-caksusa: by the eyes
of knowledge. Pasyanti jnana-caksusa. Sastra-caksusat. Not that if
somebody challenges that “Have you seen God?” “Yes, I have seen.”
“How?” “Through sastra, through sastra.” God reveals. You cannot see,
even God comes before you… Just like Krsna was present… Here is
God before you. But you cannot understand. Unless we are advanced in
Krsna consciousness, we’ll think, “What is this, a statue of stone? He
is God?” Yes, He is God. Otherwise, why we are spending so much money,
wasting time? No, here is God. But how you can see God?
Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena. You have to make the eyes to
see God. Otherwise, God is everywhere. So they may ask that “If God is
everywhere, why you are worshiping an idol?” He’s not idol, He is God,
but he is seeing idol. Unless he has developed love for God, he cannot
see. But it is, God is there. But because our eyes cannot see the
spirit, at the present moment, our dull material eyes… Just like you
are spirit soul, I am spirit soul, your father is spirit soul, your
mother is spirit soul–but are you seeing the spirit soul? When the
spirit soul goes away, you’re crying, “My father is gone, my father is
gone.” Why father is gone? He’s lying on the bed. You have seen the
coat, pants, hands, legs, that is there. Why you say gone? “No, he’s
gone.” So we cannot see the spirit soul even of our father and mother;
how can you see God, the Supreme Spirit? Therefore God comes before
you just like stone, which you can see. It is to favor you. God is
everything. So, in this way, we have to understand God, Krsna. And if
anyone understands, then he becomes immediately fit for going back to
home, back to Godhead. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti
kaunteya. Janma karma ca me divyam yo tattvatah.
So therefore we require good association. Adau sraddha tatah
sadhu-sango ‘tha bhajana-kriya tato ‘nartha-nivrttih syat tato nistha
tatah rucis tato bhavas sadhakanam ayam premnah pradurbhave… You
cannot develop love of Godhead in one second. You can, provided you
are so sincere and God is very much pleased upon you. He can give you.
He can give you immediately. That is possible. But that may be some
rare cases. Ordinarily, this is the process. Adau sraddha tatah
sadhu-sango. Just like we have come here in this temple. You have got
some faith, all of us. That is called sraddha, adau sraddha. There are
many hundred thousand in this quarter. Why they are not coming? This
is the beginning. You have got some faith, sraddha. You have come.
Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango. And if you continue… What we are
doing? We are making the association to take lessons from these Vedic
literatures. This is called sadhu-sanga. In the drinking shop we make
one kind of association, in the restaurant we make one association, in
the club we make some association, different places. So here is a
place, here is also association. It is called sadhu-sanga, association
with devotees. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango. And if one is mature,
then he wants to execute devotional service, bhajana-kriya. And as
soon as there is bhajana-kriya, the unnecessary nonsense things will
disappear. No more illicit sex, no more intoxication, no more
drinking, no more gambling. Finished. When anartha-nivrttih syat, all
these rascal habits are gone, then nistha, then firm faith, not to be
agitated. Tato nistha tatah rucis. Then taste. You cannot live outside
this camp. Taste has changed. Tato nistha tatah rucis, tathasaktis,
then attraction. Then bhava. Bhava means ecstasy: “Oh, Krsna.” Then
there is love. There are different stage.

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So smrti is not without Veda. Or Purana… Sometimes people do not
accept the Puranas as Vedic. No. Here it is said by Rupa Gosvami,
sruti-smrti-puranadi. They are all Vedas. Purana means supplementary.
Just like the Vedic knowledge is described in the Mahabharata. It is
in the form of history. But actually the Vedic knowledge is there.
That is also stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,
stri-sudra-dvija-bandhunam trayi na sruti-gocarah. Stri, woman, sudra,
and dvija-bandhu… Dvija-bandhu means a person who is born in
brahmana family but he is not advanced in spiritual knowledge. He is
called dvija-bandhu. He is not called a brahmana. Stri, sudra. And
they are classified along with stri and sudra.
Stri-sudra-dvija-bandhunam trayi na sruti-gocarah. For these persons
it is very difficult to undertand the Vedic injunctions. Therefore the
Vedic injunctions are sometimes made into historical stories. The
stories, they are not fiction; they are fact.

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Malati: (break) …that Lord Buddha, he adopted a new type of
religion, but those who were strict followers of Vedas, they would not
accept him. Does that mean that there were still people who were
following those beliefs, scriptures, at his time, or did he convert
all of India?
Prabhupada: Yes. Lord Buddha was patronized by the then emperor,
Ashoka. And anything patronized by the state, it becomes very popular.
Yad yad acarati sresthah lokas tad anuvartate. So Lord Buddha
converted Ashoka, Emperor Ashoka, to this religion. Therefore whole
India became Buddhist. And later on, when Buddhism was driven out of
India, the Jainism and similar other religious principles became
visible. Ahimsa paramo dharmah. Lord Buddha… Ahimsa paramo dharmah
is also Vedic religion, but they stressed especially on ahimsa. In the
Bhagavad-gita you will find: amanitvam adambhitvam ahimsa ksantir
arjavam. These are the different steps of progressing in knowledge and
religion. The first thing is amanitvam. Amanitvam means very humble.
Very humble. And therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu teaches that trnad api
sunicena, “Just become humbler than the straw in the street or grass.”
To become religious means… Lord Jesus Christ also, he taught like
that–“The humble and meek will attain the kingdom of God.” Is it not
said like that?

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Prabhupada: That is natural. If the state is after some religion…
Just like Christian religion spread in India because there was
Christian government. The Muhammadan religion spread because there was
Muhammadan government. That is natural. If the state is following a
certain type of religion, then naturally… And that is said in the
Bhagavad-gita: yad yad acarati sresthah. Just like in India, at least
in Bengal, we have got the history that educated persons, they saw
that “In Christian religion one can drink, one can eat meat. So why
not become Christian?” So the drunkards and meat-eaters, they became
Christians. Similarly the Muhammadans also, they thought a clue to
deviate from the Vedic principles, and they turned themselves. Just
like Aurangzeb enacted the lidia(?) tax, that all the Hindus will have
to pay this tax. So the untouchables… Because Hindus made these
untouchables, so untouchables, they thought that “Why shall I pay the
tax? Better become Muhammadan.” So so many people, they became
Christians. Similarly the Muhammadans also, they thought a clue to
deviate from the Vedic principles, and they turned themselves. Just
like Aurangzeb enacted the lidia(?) tax, that all the Hindus will have
to pay this tax… So a state controls anything, if the
state… Now the state is secular, atheist. The people are becoming
atheist. They are teaching that “Throw away these scriptures. You eat
everything. What is the wrong in eating flesh, eating meat, eating
chickens?” They are advertising, “Eggs are available here.” When the
state supports, so people follow.

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a father. If he does not take care of his son to be a man of
character, he becomes a debauchee. That is natural. So according to
Vedic principles, the kings were very much highly trained to see how
the people are advancing in the spiritual knowledge. Just like one
king… You will find in The Nectar of Devotion. There was law that…
He said that, (chuckles) “If I do not find any one of my citizens with
tilaka, then I shall punish him.” So everyone, out of that fear, they
used to have this tilaka. And they were looking all Vaisnavas.
(laughs) Although they had no very much faith in Visnu, but out of
fear of the state orders, they were having tilaka. So sometimes
authority orders are accepted in that, out of fear.

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And what is Vedas? Vedo narayana saksat. Absolute. Narayana,
spiritual world, absolute. Nonduality. Narayana, Narayana’s words are
the same. There is no difference. Just like we are reading
Bhagavad-gita. Why we’re interested? Because Bhagavad-gita and the
speaker of Bhagavad-gita, Krsna, they are identical. So you cannot
change the words of Bhagavad-gita. That is foolishness. Anyone who
changes the orders and the words of Bhagavad-gita, they are rascal,
they’ll not get any benefit. Because you cannot correct Krsna, what
Krsna says or God says. That is not in your power. So these rascals,
they want to interpret, “This is like this, this is this, I think it
is this.” No. Krsna did not leave for you, for your thinking rascally.
No. Krsna is completely learned. Whatever He has said, it is perfectly
in order. You cannot change.

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So when we speak of Vrndavana, it is not imagination. In the
sastra, there is description, how Krsna is there, what He is doing.
Especially it is mentioned: surabhir abhipalayantam. Krsna has got
this hobby. Just like our hobby–dog–abhipalayantam. We keep, every
one of us, especially in the Western countries, a dog. So why not
Krsna keeping so many cows? What is the difficulty for Him? So He,
intentionally, He becomes a cowherd boy. That is His pleasure. Just
like here, we, a minute particle of God, we have got so many hobbies.
So He has … Because nothing can be present here without being in
Krsna. Therefore Krsna says, aham sarvasya prabhavo. Whatever is there
in this material world, bad or good, similar things are there in the
spiritual world. The difference is here everything, bad, and there
everything, good. That is the difference. Here we have made bad and
good; it has no meaning. Caitanya-caritamrta kaja, Kaviraja Gosvami,
he has explained the conception of bad and good in this material
world. He says, ‘dvaite bhadrabhadra-(jnana,) sakale sama ‘ei bhala,
ei manda’, sab mano-dharma. In the world of duality… This is the
world of duality. So the absolute… There is absolute world. That is
spiritual world. But here there is duality, bad and good. You cannot
understand bad without having some conception of good, and you cannot
understand good without having some conception of bad. You require the
opposite. So in the spiritual world, this duality conception is
absent. Everything is absolute. We have to understand this
theoretically at the present moment. But there, everything is
cintamani. Everything is alive, spiritual.

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Devotee (5): Prabhupada, you mentioned a person who commits sins
because he is in ignorance.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Devotee (5): What if the person knows what he is doing is wrong, and
he knows what the ultimate result of his doings is also wrong, but he
still commits? Is that still ignorance?
Prabhupada: Yes. That is ignorance-rooted, ignorance, heart, rooted in
the heart. That can be… Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu recommends
ceto-darpana-marjanam. You have to cleanse your heart. Then, when your
heart is cleansed, then you will say, “No, no. No more I am going to
do this. I have suffered so much. No. No.” That is real knowledge.
Unless your heart is cleansed, then, even though you know that “By
committing theft I will be punished,” you will commit, because the
heart is not clear. Even though one knows that “By doing this, I will
suffer,” still, he will do that. That distinction is always there.
Therefore the only method is this cleansing process in this age, Hare
Krsna maha-mantra.

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Prabhupada: No. Goodness is a chance. If you acquire… Just like if
you become a graduate, there is chance of becoming a lawyer. But if
you do not become a lawyer, you remain only graduate. That’s all. But
without becoming graduate they cannot enter to be a lawyer. Similarly,
goodness is the qualification of a brahmana. A brahmana has a chance.
When you are qualified, you are following the regulative principles,
qualified, you have got the chance of being promoted to become a
Vaisnava. That is the advantage. But in this age… Again, the same
thing. Even one is not a brahmana–he is in the category of
candala–still, if he chants this Hare Krsna mantra, he becomes
elevated to the position more than a brahmana. Yes.

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to accept because you are not independent. We foolishly say
independent. “We don’t care for anybody. There is no God.” But there
is death. That you have to believe. So that death is God. Krsna says,
aham mrtyuh sarva-haras ca. One who does not see God during lifetime,
so he will see God at the time of death. So there is no question of
not seeing God. Here is God, Krsna. He is standing. He is so merciful.
He has come to this temple so that we can take the advantage of seeing
Him, But we are seeing Him still idol or something, stone or wood. He
does not know that because we cannot see now at the present moment
without being wood or stone or something material, so Krsna has very
kindly come to me so that I can see Him in a form which I can see.
That is His mercy. We have repeatedly said this.
Therefore we should never think, arcye visnu sila-dhih, the
worshipable Deity, Krsna, Visnu, as made of stone. In the higher
sense, stone is also Krsna, because Krsna’s energy. Just like if you
go to the street, you may see the sun in the sky, but when you are
within the room, you may not see the sun in the sky directly. But
because it is daytime, therefore we can understand there is sun on the
sky. Similarly, we do not require to see God directly. We can see Him
through His energy. Just like in a telephone hanger, as soon as
somebody speaks, immediately see him. How it is possible? By his word,
immediately see him. You are in a closed room, somebody knocking, and
you say, “Who is it?” He says, “I am.” So immediately by his voice,
you can see him. So why do you want to see directly? We can see
anything by his energy. Just like if you feel heat here, then
immediately you becomes alert, “Oh, there must be some fire.” If there
is some smoke, immediately you can understand that there is fire. So
by intelligence and by the energy of God, you can see God. That is
intelligence. So Krsna says,

bhumir apo ‘nalo vayuh
kham mano buddhir eva ca
ahankara iti me
bhinna prakrtih astadha

“It is My energy.” So stone is also energy of Krsna, but you have not
eyes to see Krsna in the stone. That is your defect. Krsna says that
“This is My energy.” Just like you can see, by energy, you can see the
energetic, similarly, by seeing Krsna’s energy, you can see Krsna.
Therefore those who are advanced devotee, for them, there is
nothing material; everything is Krsna. Sthavara-jangama dekhe na dekhe
tara murti. Actually, a Vaisnava is factually monist because he does
not see anything except Krsna. Anything he sees, he will think, “This
is Krsna’s energy.” So why it is not Krsna? So Krsna also says in the
Bhagavad-gita, maya tatam idam sarvam: “I am expanded everywhere.”
Avyakta-murtina. Avyakta means not manifest. He is in the fire. He is
in the water. He is in the land. He is in the sky–everywhere. He is
in the mind. He is in intelligence. He is soul. He’s part and So Krsna
is everywhere; simply you have to make your eyes how to see Him. That
is required. That is prema. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena
santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti. Those who are santah, saintly
person, they always see Krsna. Why? Premanjana-cchurita, because he is
in love with Krsna. Just like you have your beloved child. Although he
is out of sight, you can see him in his shoe, in his cloth, in his
toy: “Oh, it is my child.” That requires prema. Similarly, if you have
knowledge, theoretical knowledge even, that everything is Krsna’s
energy and if you have love for Krsna, with reference to the context,
whatever you see, you see Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness.
Perfection of Krsna consciousness. You cannot see anywhere where there
is no Krsna. This is for the devotee. For the ordinary person these
are the description, that the surya, the sun is also Krsna, the fire
is also Krsna, the sky is also Krsna, the air is also Krsna, the moon
is also Krsna, the evening is Krsna, daytime is Krsna. Then how you
can avoid Krsna? Krsna says that “I am…” Mattah smrtir jnanam
apohanam ca. Krsna is everywhere. You cannot avoid Krsna. Simply on
account of your foolishness, maya is covering your eyes to see Krsna.
So mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te. If you surrender to
Krsna, then maya’s curtain will be taken away and you will see Krsna,
Krsna, Krsna, Hare Krsna. That’s all. This is required. Then you
become perfect as soon as you learn how to see Krsna everywhere. This
is the art, transcendental art, spiritual art, how to see Krsna. Then
you become perfect. That is wanted.

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Nitai: “The candidates for punishment are those who are confirmed by
these many witnesses to have deviated from the prescribed regulative
duties. Everyone engaged in fruitive activities is suitable to be
subjected to punishment according to his different sinful activities.”
… Everyone is deserving to be punished, beginning from Lord Brahma
down to the ant, every living entity. Dandam arhanti. And the final
dandam… Danda means punishment. The final danda is death.

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jiva bhoga vancha kare, pasate maya tare japatiya dhare. The living
entity, forgetting his real position as maidservant of God or servant
of God, when he wants to enjoy this material world, that is maya. Maya
tare japatiya dhare. Immediately. That is sinful.
So this disease is there even in Lord Brahma down to the small ant.
Everyone is trying to enjoy this material… The whole material
civilization means everyone is trying to enjoy this world, that
civilization. So many cars are running here and there, but what is the
purpose? The purpose is everyone is trying to enjoy. That is sinful.
That is sinful, because you cannot enjoy. Enjoyer is Krsna.

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So every living entity who has forgotten Krsna, trying to imitate
Krsna, that is sinful. So these sinful activities we are doing in
ignorance, in lower grade of life. Just like cats and dogs and birds
and trees and the…, they do not know, there is no capacity.

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but nrloke, in the human society, the body which you have got, or the
person who has got this human form of body, kastan kaman na arhate,
for such animal, having this material body, human body, it is not
meant for working so hard. That is first-class civilization when
people are not working very hard, living very peacefully, and getting
their necessities of life. That is first-class civilization, not that
to work day and night like hogs and dog, and get a cup of tea and
little morsel of bread. That is not civilization. Therefore sastra
says, nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhu…
This kind of hard labor for sense gratification little, it is done by
the hogs and dogs. So to teach people to work day and night for simply
eating purposes, sense gratification, that is hog civilization,
according to sastra. Nayam deha deho-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate

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opportunity is given by nature and God combined. God has ordered
nature to give me this machine, human form of body. If we do not
utilize it as human being, that is sinful. That is sinful.
So there are so many witnesses, as we have already discussed.

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them to understand what is God, what is devotion. So therefore Lord
Buddha propounded the philosophy, “Make all your nonsense activities
zero, so much. First of all make zero, then positive we shall say.”
That is zero movement, sunyavadi. At least, if a rascal children is
always doing something nonsense, then first of all stop him. Make him
zero. Then good lesson: “Come. Do this.” So this Buddhist movement
means to make their atheistic activities zero. At least that is good.
It is better not to… Maunam, silent. Instead of talking all
nonsense, better be silent; don’t create disturbance. So… And the
other movement, nirvisesa-vadi, are giving little hint, Sankaracarya,
Mayavada, that “Yes, this zero is not sufficient. There is positive.”
Brahma satyam jagan mithya. His movement was that “This material world
is false; make it zero. But there is a positive thing which is
Brahman.” What is that Brahman, he did not disclose.


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all, he is a living being–that “There are some Vaisnavas. So let me
go with them if they will give us shelter.” That is the purpose. He
was coming. You were making, “Hut!” (laughter) But he wanted some
master, because a dog without master, his position is very precarious.
Without master… So we are all servant. Every one of us, we are all
servants of maya. Maya means we are servant of our desires. We are
servant of our different desires. Somebody is thinking, “I shall be
happy in this way”; somebody is thinking, “I shall be happy in this
way.” In this way we have got different desires, and we are servant of
the desires. So servant of desire means just like the street dog. He
is also desiring: “If these gentleman will accept me as his dog?” But
he is going there, and he is driven away: “Hut! Hut!” He is going to
some house, moving his tail, “My dear sir, will you give me some
food?” “No, no. Go away.” We are also going also: “My dear sir, will
you give me some service?” “No vacancy. Get out.” This is our
position. Hana mayara dasa kori nana abhilasa. Because we are
constitutionally servant of God, but we have given up that service, we
have now become the servant of maya. Therefore our life is frustrated,
because you do not know “What is my actual position.” Caitanya
Mahaprabhu teaches, jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa. Caitanya
Mahaprabhu’s teaching, that “Why you are going door to door like a
dog: ‘Will you give me some food, give me some duty? I am prepared to
serve you,’ and refusing, nana abhilasa, and desiring again and again,
this way, that way?” But I do not know what is my real destination,
how I shall be happy. That information is given by Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu, that “You are suffering in this way for a permanent
service to become happy. Why you are going here and there? You are
servant of Krsna. Go there. Then you will be happy.”

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So we are, at the present moment in different conditions of life on
account of our different activities, pious and impious, dharma,
adharma. So pious activities means to be controlled by Krsna, and
impious activities means to be controlled by maya. We have to be
controlled. Our position is such that we cannot become controller.
That is not possible. If we want to become controller, that is my
artificial desire. And the resultant action we will have to suffer.
First of all you must understand this, that we are controlled. Either
you agree to be controlled by Krsna or you agree to be controlled by
maya, but you cannot become controller. Is there anyone here who can
say that “I am controller”? Is there anyone who will answer this? So I
may think that “I am controller,” but I am controlled by drugs, by
sense gratification, desires–kama krodha lobha moha matsarya. So
there is no question of the living entity’s being independent. That is
not possible. He is dependent. But if he becomes dependent on Krsna,
then life is successful. Exactly the position, the dog. The dog is
loitering without being controlled by somebody, he is seeking,
“Somebody may control me.” He’s seeking position. But if he does not
get anybody to control him, his life is very precarious; he is not
happy. Therefore, if you want to be happy, then we must return to our
own original position: to be controlled by Krsna. This is perfection
of life.

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Similarly, you cannot manufacture any
religion. Narayana saksat. Narayana, God, He can make. You cannot make
at your home, “I have manufactured a type of religion.” No. That you
cannot do. Nowadays this is going on. Yata mata tata patha: “You can
manufacture your own religion.” This is going on. “You are okay, I am
okay.” “I manufacture my religion. You manufacture your religion.
Don’t fight. Let us become brother.” This is going on. So how you can
be brother? The dog remains a dog. How they can become brother? It is
not possible. Therefore so many religious systems, they are all
rascaldom. One religion: that is the order of God. That is religion.
If you want one religion, then you must know who is God and you must
abide by the order of God. That is religion, very simple thing. You
cannot manufacture, concoction. That is not religion. Therefore
Bhagavata, it is said, dharmah projjhita-kaitavah: “All these cheating
type of religion is rejected, kicked out from Srimad-Bhagavatam.” What
is that religion there? Param satyam dhimahi: “The Supreme Truth, the
Absolute Truth, we are accepting.” This is religion.

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So we were speaking this verse yesterday morning. So vedo narayanah
saksat. That is to be understood–why Vedas are given so much
importance. Here it is explained that Veda means directly Narayana.
Why? Because Narayana is absolute, God is absolute; therefore the
words of God are also God. You cannot make any differentiation.
Saksat, directly. So this is to be understood, that God–His form, His
quality, His pastimes, His entourage–everything of God is God. Even
sometimes… Why sometimes? Always, the devotee of God is also God.
Just like we chanted this mantra, saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih,
that “In every scripture the spiritual master is identified as
directly God.” Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih. Visvanatha
Cakravarti said, not that any section sastra, but all sastra, all
scriptures, they admit that the spiritual master is God directly.
Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktah: “It is said. It is
mentioned. Authoritative sastra, actually bona fide sastra, it is
said.” Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktah: “It is said.” And
saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih:
“And that is accepted by all strict followers of transcendental
science.” Not that somebody admits or somebody does not admit. No.
Everyone, sadbhih. Sadbhih means “by the transcendentalists, those who
are actually making progress in transcendental science and those who
are…, objective is to reach the Supreme.” They are doing.
Then again, Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says, kintu prabhor yah
priya eva tasya. Why the spiritual master should be accepted directly
as Narayana and God? The Mayavada philosophers, they say, “Yes,
spiritual master is God and I am God, you are God–everyone is God.”
No. That is rectified. Everyone is not God. God is God, and living
entities are living entities. In the Vedas it is…, nityo nityanam
cetanas cetananam: “He is the prime entity of all entities.” So there
cannot be two Gods. One God. As such, if God is one, there cannot be
two religion also, because religion means to understand God, to love
God. That is religion. And religion means the words of God, just as it
is said. So why there should be two religions? There cannot be two
religions. There may be some difference according to climate, country,
population. There may be some difference in the execution of religion.
But on principle there cannot be two religions because God is one and
religion means the words of God. So how there can be two religions? We
have made two, three, four, five, six, increasing the number of
religion. Just like in New York we have seen the United Nations
organization. It is said they are united, but there are thousands of

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life–there are so many varieties of birds, beginning from the eagle.
There is a big eagle bird. We have no information. They are very big
bird. They are flying in the sky, and their rest is from one planet to
another. Just like here you find the birds, they are flying from one
tree to another. Similarly, there are so big birds… They are called
garuda. So garuda, these birds, they start their flying from one
planet and sits in another planet. Just try to understand what is
their flying. Not only that, they also lay eggs while flying, and the
eggs, while falling down, it becomes another bird. And these birds can
pick up elephants for eating. So this is God’s creation. So if you
want to become such a big bird, you can become. (laughter) Yes. Ye

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Pratyaksa, anumana, and sruta. According to Vedic principles, there
are three different types of evidences. Everything must be proved by
evidence. So these are primarily three evidences. Pratyaksa, direct
perception, pratyaksa; anumana; and sruti. Anumana means I cannot see
directly, but by the symptoms I can imagine. That is anumana. Just
like I have seen that in the month of April, May, June, we can get
mangoes. That is our direct experience. So similarly, we can say, in
the month of January, we can say that “In the month of April, May,
June, we shall have mangoes.” In the January there is no mango. But
because I know, I experienced in my last April, May, June, so
similarly, this intuition is nothing but experience of my last life.
That is called intuition. The rascals, they say that there is no
experience. Whatever life we have got just now, here experience. No.
The intuition… Just like a dog’s cub born, it is also trying to find
out milk from the body of the mother, and exactly in the same place
putting his mouth. Or human child also. This is last experience. That
proves that life is continual. Just like I came here about two, three
years ago? So I immediately, while getting down, I immediately
understood, “Oh, the same house.” So this is called intuition, means
past experience.
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So my real problem is how to
become again eternal, not accepting any more birth, death, old age.
That is my real business.” But because I am infected with the material
modes of nature, we are making different plans. Everyone is busy.
Everyone is busy in different plans, forgetting his real business.
This is called maya. Maya means…, ma means not; ya means this.
Therefore maya means when you understand, “This is not my business,”
then you are out of maya. “This is not,” ma-ya.

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Jaghanya, they do not know how to live, just like animal, less than
animal. Animal has got also sense. The modern civilization is less
than animal. Animal does not kill its own son. The human being is
killing his own son.

Just like a pig. It is very much fond of eating stool. So if you
want to ask, “Why this animal is fond of eating stool?”… So dharma
adharma jnapaka, because in the past life this living entity practiced
tamo-guna, no discrimination of eating… Tamo-guna means no
discrimination. Eating… We have got four businesses in this life, so
long we have got this material body: ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca,
eating, sleeping and sex and defense. These are primary business of
the body. So why there are different types of eating, different types
of sleeping? Why different types of mating, sex intercourse, and

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So these are all due to different infection of the guna. Tamo-guna
means shameless, tamo-guna. Rajo-guna means lusty desire. And
sattva-guna means knowledge, to see things as they are. So just like
here in the temple, we are cultivating sattva-guna, or more than that,
above sattva-guna. Above sattva-guna. It is said in the sastra that to
live in the forest is sattva-guna. Sattva-guna, people have got
tendency to live in a secluded place, solitary place, without any
disturbance. That is sign of sattva-guna. And to live in the cities,
big, big cities, skyscraper building, this is rajo-guna. And to live
in the brothel, in the liquor shop, in the slaughterhouse, this is
tamo-guna. Sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. But to live in the
temple is transcendental. Transcendental. It is above sattva-guna,
rajo-guna, tamo-guna, to live in temple. Therefore we are introducing
this Krsna consciousness movement so that the persons who are in Krsna
consciousness, living in the temple according to the regulative
principles, they are above all these sattva-guna, rajo-guna,
tamo-guna. That is wanted. Nistraigunya. Traigunya means three gunas,
and nih means negative. Nistraigunyo bhavarjuna. That is our aim, that
although we are in this material world, by this Krsna consciousness
process we shall live above these three gunas. These three gunas
cannot touch me. That is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita: sa gunan
samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. Who? Mam ca vyabhicarini
bhakti-yogena ya sevate. Anyone who is engaged in pure devotional
service avyabhicarini, not mixed up, whimsical, regularly, as they are
ordained, as they are prescribed. So if anyone is engaged in such
transcendental loving service of the Lord, then his position is: he is
above the three gunas. He is not…

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.. Any person who has studied sastra, and he is in the sattva-guna, to him it
is…, everything is there. He can understand what is this man, what
he is going to be and what he was, past, present, future, everything.
Why? How one can understand past, present, future? Through the sastra.
Sastra-caksusah. There are still astrological calculation in India
called Brghu-samhita. If you consult Brghu-samhita, immediately they
will give you your past, present and future. Immediately they will
give. The astrology science is so perfect. What you were in the past
life, what you are at the present and what you are going to be, these
three things they can be known.

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So, so far the Kali-yuga is concerned, the future is very dark.
There, everything is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. The future of
this Kali-yuga, as it will advance, Kali-yuga… We have only passed
five thousand years out of thirty-two hundred thousands of years. We
have only passed five thousand years, and the miserable condition,
situation, will degrade more and more, more and more. So if you have
to take again birth in this material world, then we’ll have to suffer
more and more. Best thing is that let us finish our business of Krsna
consciousness and go back to home, back to Godhead, so that we haven’t
got to come again to this nonsense material world. That is wanted. Yad
gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama. This should be the aim of
life, that we are not going to take advantage of this so-called
advance of material civilization. We have no business. Ara nare vaka
(indistinct). We should make it a determination that we have enough of
this material civilization; we are not any more concerned about it. We
are interested in Krsna, how to go back to home, back to Godhead,
Krsna. This should be the determination. And if we think, “Let me
taste this also and taste that also…” In Bengal it is said durakhai
tanakakai (indistinct). Not like that.
… For a person who is going back to home, back to Godhead, he should be
niskincana. Niskincana means no more any material necessities.
Niskincana. Niskincanasya bhagavad-bhajanomukhasya. One side, this is
nirvana, finished. And the other side positive. Negative side, no more
material, and positive side, Krsna. Bhagavad-bhajanonmukhasya. How to
go back to home, back to Godhead to serve Krsna–this is one side. And
one side–nil, we don’t want any more anything. Niskincana. For such a
person, visayinam sandarsanam atha yositam ca. For such a person, if
he has become captivated by the material attraction, means money and
material comforts… Woman and material comforts. This is material
civilization. Everyone is after woman. Woman or men, the… It is not
… So we have… This is the idea. So we must be serious. It is not
that in one day we, all of us, we become paramahamsa. That is not
possible. Don’t try to imitate, but follow the rules and regulation
with vow that “This life I shall go back to home, back to Godhead,
with determination.” Then Krsna will give you intelligence. That is
promised by Krsna in the Bhagavad-gita. Tesam nityabhiyuktanam
bhajatam pritih, satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam dadami… If
you are serious, then Krsna is within everyone’s heart, He’ll give you
intelligence. But we must be very serious. Then past, present, future
will be clear before us, and because Krsna is personally directing,
buddhi-yogam dadami. So what knowledge is wanting there when Krsna…

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Here there is difference between the man, woman, cows, or trees, or
flowers. No. In the spiritual world there is no such difference. The
flower is also devotee, living. The flower wants to serve Krsna as
flower. The calf wants to serve Krsna as calf. The gopis want to serve
Krsna as gopi. They are all the same, but according to the
varieties–yesterday I was speaking of the variety–varieties of
desires to serve Krsna… So that is spiritual world. And material
world? The same varieties are there, imitation, but everyone wants to
satisfy sense gratification. There is no desire for serving Krsna.
That is the difference between material world and the spiritual world.
In the spiritual world all the varieties are there, and they are all
spirit. There is no touch of matter. They are all conscious. When the
flower is there in the hand of Krsna, in the lotus hand, he is
conscious. He is enjoying that “I wanted to serve Krsna as flower; now
I am enjoying.” That is spiritual. They are all conscious. So in this
way we shall keep ourself always Krsna conscious. Then, even though we
fall down just like Bharata Maharaja fell down, became… He lost one
birth. He became too much attached to that animal. He forgot his daily
routine work. And the description is there in the, I think, which
canto? What?
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rascals are suffering. Let them have some idea about Krsna.” That is
wanted. This is Krsna consciousness movement. So I am very glad that
you are seriously interested, and Krsna is pleased upon you. And that
you are sincerely trying, I can understand from these tulasi plants.
Yes. This is the practical demonstration. Unless there is bhakti, this
tulasi plant will not grow. We must be very much thankful to our
Govinda dasi. She first of all cultivated the tulasi plant in Hawaii.
And now our tulasi plants are distributed. So she has done a great
service. I think I gave her the seeds, and she very nicely done it.
Now everywhere we see tulasi plant. It is very pleasing. So the same
thing–Deity worship and watering the tulasi plants, chanting sixteen
rounds at least, and observing the rules and regulation, regulative
principle… Then your life is successful. Don’t neglect. Very
seriously continue. And in this one life you are going back to home,
back to Godhead. It is sure. I am not flattering you. Krsna says,
man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru, mam evaisyasi
asamsayah. Asamsayah, “Without any doubt, simply following these rules
and regulation,” mam evaisyasi, “you come back to Me.”
So take these words of Krsna, guru-Krsna. The guru will also…,
the same thing, what Krsna has said. And follow the principles. Your
life is successful. Now, this place I see, although I have not seen
all, is a nice place. And the grhasthas may come here, have some small
cottage, and grow your own food grains, vegetables, and have your
cow’s milk. Get nice foodstuff, save time. Why should you go in the
city, hundred miles in car and again hundred miles come back and take
unnecessary trouble? Stick to this spot and grow your own food, your
own cloth, and live peacefully, save time, chant Hare Krsna. Very nice
program. This is actual life. What is this nonsense life, big, big
cities and always people busy? If he wants to see one friend, he has
to go thirty miles. If he has to see a physician, he has to go fifty
miles. If he has to go to work, another hundred miles. So what is this
life? This is not life. Be satisfied. The devotee’s life should be
yavad artha-prayojanam. We require material necessities as much as it
is required, no artificial life. That is spiritual life. Simply
increasing artificial life, even for shaving, a big machine is
required. What is this? Simply wasting time. Devil’s workshop. Make
life very simple. And simple living, high thinking, and always
conscious to go back to home, back to Krsna. That is life. Not this
life, that simply machine, machine, machine, machine.

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We do not understand that this deha, this body, is always klesada.
Klesada means giving pains. For the time being, we may feel some
pleasure, but actually it is a reservoir of pain, not pleasure. The
example is given in this connection… Formerly, this was done by the
government servants to criminal, to take a man in the middle of the
river and drown him, and catching his hair, and when he’s almost
suffocating, then they again draw from the water and he takes little
rest and again put him into the water. So that was the system of
punishment. Similarly, whatever little pleasure we are feeling, that
is exactly similarly the man, when he’s taken from the water, that’s
all. Again he’s to be drowned. This material world is like that.

…and inquire from the spiritual master that “Why I am in this condition
of life, always suffering?” Tri-tapa yatana. But we have become so
dull, like the animals. The animals, they cannot question. They are
suffering. Everyone knows animal life is full of suffering, but they
cannot realize. But a human being can realize. And when the question
comes, when he becomes intelligent enough that “Why I am suffering?”
then his human life begins. Otherwise, he is animal. The animal cannot
inquire. An animal is being taken to the slaughterhouse, but he cannot
question or inquire that “Why I am taken by force in this
slaughterhouse?” That is animal. But if you take one human being to be
killed, if he understands, he’ll make a great noise, that “This man is
going, taking me. Why I am being…,” so on, so on. Yes. That is human
life. That is the distinction between human life and animal life, that
one can understand that “Why I am put into this condition of
suffering?” This is called brahma-jijnasa. That is the beginning of
Vedanta philosophy. Athato brahma-jijnasa. Then we understand, one
after another.
So we should take advantage. Not that we shall live like animal,
without any inquiry, without finding out the remedy, how to stop this
miserable condition of life. We are actually trying. Everyone is
working so hard, struggle for existence. He is trying. Why one is
trying to get money? Because he thinks that “If I get money, then the
distressed condition in which I am suffering, it can be mitigated.” So
the struggle for existence is going on. Everyone is trying to become
happy. But that is not in the material way. Material way, we are
trying to get happiness, that means sense gratification. That is not
happiness. Happiness means spiritual happiness. That is happiness.
This material happiness is temporary. That is not happiness, but
perverted happiness. It is exemplified just like we are trying to find

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So nasta-jan… I do not know. I do not know means I cannot remember
what I did in my past life and what is going to happen in the next
life, in ignorance, tamasa. Ajnas tamasa upaste. This is tamo-guna.
The present life as it is, we try to enjoy–that’s all–without caring
for the next life, or without understanding what was my past life. But
human being should be intelligent enough that “Why…? I am enjoying
or I am suffering. The other person, he is differently enjoying or
suffering differently. Why the differences are there?” This is
intelligence. Why not one kind of enjoyment? Why not everyone
millionaire? Why not everyone pauper, or poor? There are varieties. So
they do not consider it. They are so fool, they… They should, that
“Why I am put into this condition? Why he is put into another
condition? Why the other is put in another condition?” That is called
tamasa. They do not care to know also. Tamasa. Tamase ca.

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So this Krsna consciousness movement means to deliver people from
this ignorant ignorance platform and bring him to the light platform,
or…, and knowledge platform, so that one can understand what is his
constitutional position, how he can stop the sufferings of life, and
how one can become eternally blissful life of knowledge. (break)
…ness. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He has given us the Siksastaka.
Ceto-darpana-marjanam. By chanting the Hare Krsna mantra… (break) In
the Bhagavata says tapasa. Tapasa means “by undergoing severe
austerities, penances.” Tapasa brahmacaryena samena damena va. This is
the instruction in the sastra. One has to become perfect by tapasa, by
austerities. Tapasa brahmacaryena. And becoming brahmacari, celibate.
What is called? Celibate life? Eh?
Jagadisa: Celibacy.
Prabhupada: Celibacy, yes. Life of celibacy, controlling the sex
desire. This is tapasya. Tapasa brahmacaryena samena damena va. These
things are education. And what is this nonsense education how to
become a big mechanics of motorcar parts? This is not education. This
is sudra, sudra education. It is not education. It is called silpa.
Silpa-vidya, brahma-vidya. Vidya means brahma-vidya. Therefore, in the
Vedic society, education was meant for the brahmanas. Education was
not meant for the sudras. Education was meant for the brahmanas, and
partially of the ksatriyas, neither of the vaisyas nor of the sudras.
What education? Vaisyas livelihood is, or his occupational duty is,
how to produce food, how to give protection to the cows, and if there
is excess stock, how to trade with it. So anyone can learn by seeing
only. It doesn’t require any high education. If the father is tilling
the field, the son can learn it by seeing it. If the father… Just
like in Vrndavana, we… Krsna… Krsna was going to tend the cows and
calves of Nanda Maharaja. There was no education. It can be learned
simply by seeing others doing that. So at the present moment education
means many Indians are coming to America to learn how to polish
motorcar parts or how to create technology. So this is not education.
This is not ed… But the Europeans and Americans, they are going to
India for learning brahma-vidya. That is education. The Europeans and
Americans, when they go to Vrndavana and Mayapur, they do not go there
to see how we have manufacturd cycle and machine for sewing. They have
seen enough of this. We may be very proud in India: “Now we are
manufacturing cycle and sewing machine or some motor parts, advanced.”
This is not advanced. Education means how to make one brahmana, how to
teach him how he become sense controlled, sama, dama, mind control,
how to become truthful, how to become clean, how to become simple, how
to become full of knowledge, how to apply knowledge in practical life,
how to know God. This is education. This is education.
So the present situation of the human civilization is very, very
dark, tamasa. They want to live in the city without working for
producing their food. And there are butchers, they kill innocent
animals. And in the city they eat the meat, and to digest they drink
and work like hogs and dogs whole day and night. This is civilization.
This is not civilization. This is darkness, darkness of life. So we

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Krsna made condition. Krsna is personal Supreme Personality of Godhead
Himself. He came to show His mercy, and therefore He left
Bhagavad-gita to be read by common… Any common man can understand.
But the rascals are so rigid that they will misinterpret. Krsna left
it for reading it by everyone. Any common man can understand.
Dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre samaveta yuyutsavah. This is the beginning.
Any common man can understand. The Kuruksetra is still there, and it
is dharma-ksetra. Still people go there to take bath in the
Brahma-kunda during lunar and solar eclipse. It is a great
dharma-ksetra. But they will interpret, “Dharma-ksetra kuru-ksetra
means this body.” Where they get this meaning? Where is the
dictionary? No, because he is scholar, he has invented some meaning.
This is going on, and people are misled.
So the time is very, very, bad, and even there is attempt to
deliver them, they are so rigid and so stubborn, dog obstinacy, they
want to remain in the doggish condition of life. It is very, very
difficult. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu is so kind. Krsna said in the

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Therefore our business is… “Artificially, I shall not see
anything.” Now how it is possible? You’ll see in the mind. Suppose you
close your eyes, but there are so many impressions, they will come
within the mind. Even if you close your eyes. The so-called meditation
means he has closed his eyes but he’s thinking of his beloved or his
business or something like, something like that. So is not possible.
First of all, you have to fix up your mind in Krsna. Always think of
Krsna. That is advised by Krsna. Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji
mam namaskuru. These four principles guarantees, Krsna says. Mam
evaisyasi asamsayah. If you simply execute these four things, then
Krsna guarantees, asamsaya, without any doubt you are coming back to
me, back to home, back to Godhead. It is so nice. So mind engaged in
Krsna. Always think of Krsna. We are seeing Krsna here so nicely
dressed, decorated, and immediately there is impression with the mind
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janma naiti mam eti. That is success. That after giving up this
body… This body means the combination of the so many, twenty-four
elements. So long we’ll be entangled within this network of
twenty-four elements, it is called conditioned life. And mukti,
liberated, means no more entanglement. Muktir hitva anyatha rupam. We
are now entangled in these twenty-four elements, and mukti means we
are not entangled. Muktir hitva anyatha rupam. Because we are
entangled, we are thinking otherwise. “I am American,” “I am Indian,”
“I am this,” “I am that,” “I am that,” “I have got so many duties.”
These things. But when one understands that these so-called duties and
entanglement of these twenty-four elements of matter, “I do not belong
this. I am aloof, I aloof,” this understanding is called brahma-bhutah
prasannatma. At least theoretically if we understand, then our duty
changes. Prasannatma, fixed up. That whatever I am doing now, I am
doing with this material, for the benefit of this material, not for my
personal benefit. I am not these twenty-four elements. This is called

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So this principle they do not know, that this human life, actually
the desire is like that, that “Let me earn some money. Then I shall go
in a village or in a secluded place I shall live very peacefully.” And
those who have got money, at the weekend they go out for peaceful
living. So that is the tendency, not to work hard, but live
peacefully. That can be done. Everyone can do that, provided he lives
in the village, he lives in the village and produces his own food,
little labor, vegetable, food grains. Anyone can produce. This is
human civilization. Therefore… Not that all, everyone has to do. The
third class… First-class men, they should cultivate knowledge to
guide the human society, brahmana. Sama dama titiksa… They should
learn, ideal men. Under their advice… Brahmana is considered to be
the guru of other sections: ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. So anyone can
live very peacefully without any hard labor. What is this
civilization? For getting foodstuff one has to go hundred miles away
from home, daily passengers. And some of them are going in the foreign
countries also. Recently there was news that in Africa, Uganda, that,
the President Amin, he asked some very respectable English gentleman
to carry his palanquin just to insult them. But the Englishmen, now
they are in a precarious condition. The British Empire is now
finished. Now they had to carry this man. And under protest they could
not go away because they have got business. So why one should go so
far distance? Everyone can produce his foodstuff at home. Nature’s
arrangement is so nice. If not, little trade. So it is not meant for
so much hard labor. Sastra says, “This kind of laboring hard simply
for satisfaction of senses is the business of the hog and pig. It is
not the business of the human being.” Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke
kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye.
So human society, they should rectify their mode of civilization by
taking this Krsna consciousness movement. Then they will be happy.

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There are two words still current in the Hindu society: suci and
muci. Muci means cobbler, dealing with skin. “I am this skin,” “I am
white skin,” “I am black skin,” “I am American skin,” “I am Indian
skin”–this understanding means muci. And muci is skin expert. “This
is cow skin. This is goat skin. It is lamb skin.” This is… He is
called muci, skin expert. Modern technology has given the title
“tannery expert.” So this “tannery expert,” if you become tannery
expert, then you are muci. So there is a Bengali proverb, muci haya
suci haya, yadi krsna bhaje. Every one of us, we are all tannery
expert and we have created so many “isms” on the basis of becoming a
tannery expert. Therefore they are called muci. So muci haya suci
haya. And suci means brahmana, pure. He has no such sense of becoming
a tannery expert. He is brahmana, brahma-vit. One who knows Brahman,
he is called brahmana. He is suci. He is not more tannery expert. So
therefore, it is said, if from the muci platform if you want to become
suci, really brahmana, purified, then you have to take to Krsna
conscious. Muci haya suci haya, yadi krsna bhaje. If one becomes Krsna
conscious, then from the platform of becoming a muci, one becomes
suci. Therefore we have no caste distinction because our process is to
elevate the muci to the platform of suci, this Krsna consciousness
movement. Actually that is the fact. We are unnecessarily becoming
tannery expert. That is not the aim of life. The aim of life is to
become suci, to become brahmana, or the person who is aware of
Brahman. Brahma janati iti brahmanah. This is the philosophy. But
nobody is interested to become a brahmana. Everyone is interested to
remain a muci and tannery expert. That is not the aim of life. So this
is training. Muci haya suci haya. One can be trained up to become a
suci from the platform of muci. And even though one is born of a suci
family, if by practice he is not Krsna conscious, then he
automatically becomes a muci. Suci haya muci haya, yadi krsna tyaje.
If one gives up Krsna consciousness, even though he is born in a
brahmana family or even though he has practiced brahmanism, still, on
account of his not accepting Krsna consciousness, he is accepted as
muci. Suci haya muci haya, yadi krsna tyaje. And muci haya suci haya,
yadi krsna bhaje: if one is Krsna conscious, then he is suci. This is

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devotee of Lord Siva; still, he was a asura. Hiranyakasipu, he was a
great devotee of Lord Brahma, but he was considered asura. So anyone
who is not devotee of Lord Visnu, he is asura. That is the verdict.
Asuras tad-viparyayah. And this pinda-dana is offered oblations to the
Visnu. So if any man becomes a Vaisnava, he is offering oblations to
Visnu every moment, so his forefathers are delivered without any
trouble. Without any trouble. If one’s son becomes a Vaisnava in the
family, he can deliver fourteen generations, up and down. That is the
verdict. Not only verdict, this is the version in the
…dasi-patir ajamilah. Dasi-pati. He was attached to a prostitute,
dasi-pati. A prostitute is called dasi, and wife is called
dharma-patni. These are distinction. There are distinction of dresses
also, according to Vedic way of life. The prostitute would separate
the hair here, not in the middle. Yes, what is called?
Guest (1): Part.
Prabhupada: That is… A prostitute should, I mean to say, comb her
hair in that way so that people can understand she is prostitute and
she is chaste woman. And this sindura, the red, red lead, these were
the signs. A vidava(?), one who has no husband, they should wear
without any skirt, sari without any skirt, vidava, without any
bangles. So people will understand, “This woman is without husband,”
“This woman is prostitute,” “This woman is chaste woman,” “This woman
is not married,” “This woman’s husband is away from home.” So
different dresses. Prosita-bhartrka. Prosita-bhartrka. The name was…
A woman whose husband is away from home, she should not dress very
nicely. She should not comb her hair. That is the system. There are so
many systems.

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should be very secretly done. Everyone knows that a husband, wife,
have sex intercourse. But not like cats and dogs. That is human
civilization. Not that on the road the boy or the girl is embracing,
kissing, and having sex life. This is animal life. This is animal
life. Simple they are educated to prostitution. Now, at the present
moment, father, mother, sends the daughter for prostitution: “Find out
a suitable man. Attract a suitable man. Don’t marry abruptly. Just
test this man, this man, this man, this man, this man. Then marry.” So
father-mother, they are teaching daughters prostitution. This is the
condition of the society. How there can be peace? And they are after
peace. They are making conference–“peace.” By conference and passing
resolution there can be peace? And the result is Naxalites,

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Prabhupada: He was not in devotional service.
Devotee (1): He was not serving Visnu?
Prabhupada: He was trained… Visnu worship is not always devotional
service. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, when He was presented by Ramananda Raya
about Visnu worship, He said, “No, no. This is not the right
description. You go further.” You’ll find in the… Yes. “You go
further.” Eho bahya age kaha ara. Because unless they understand what
Visnu…, simple official Visnu worship will not help. One has to
become real devotee. Anyabhilasita… Generally goes to Visnu for
asking something, or any other demigod, they go. People are very much
addicted to material enjoyment. Either he goes to suddha-bhakti…
This bhakti means suddha-bhakti. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. That, that is
transcendental platform. There are viddha-bhakti. Viddha-bhakti. So
one who goes to worship Visnu for some material bene… Just like
Dhruva Maharaja went. That was bhakti, but that was viddha-bhakti,
adulterated. Dhruva Maharaja went to gain his father’s kingdom. That
is artharthi. Artah artharthi. Catur-vidha bhajante mam. Four kinds of
men goes to worship Visnu: arta, those who are distressed; artharthi,
those who are in need of money or material benefit; jijnasu, those who
are inquisitive; and jnani–these four kinds. Out of these, jijnasu
and jnani are better than the arta and artharthi, the distressed and
need of money. So even the jnani and jijnasu, they are not on the pure
devotional service because pure devotional service is beyond jnana
also. Jnana-karmady-anavrtam. Just like gopis, they did not try to
understand Krsna by jnana, whether Krsna is Bhagavan. No. They simply
automatically developed–not automatically; by their previous good
activities–acute love for Krsna. They never tried to understand
Krsna, whether He is God. When Uddhava tried to preach before them
about jnana they did not hear it very attentively. They simply
absorbed in thought of Krsna. That is the perfection of Krsna
consciousness. Never mind Krsna worship, but one loves Krsna. And that
is wanted. That is spontaneous. Real love means that. A lover does not
consider what he is, the opposite party, what he is, whether he is
rich man, whether he is educated man or educated… There is no such
consideration. Love is spontaneous. That is an example also.
Similarly, love for Krsna, that should be simply spontaneous, without
any consideration. Aslisya va pada-ratam pinastu mam: “Either You
trample down under Your feet or embrace me, still, I love You.” That
is love, that kind of love. Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna…
Hamsaduta: Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Hamsaduta: If someone is engaged in devotional service and he commits
an offense at the feet of a pure devotee, whatever he has done up
until that time is not lost? Or he, in his next life he gets…?
Prabhupada: No, if he thinks that he has committed offense, he should
ask pardon, excuse, that’s all.
Hamsaduta: What if he just goes on and he never asks pardon? Is he
finished in…?
Prabhupada: Then that he should. That he should. That he should.
Hamsaduta: He should ask.
Prabhupada: Yes. “Please excuse me. I have done…”
Hamsaduta: But suppose he doesn’t ask and he just…
Prabhupada: That is obstinacy. Why should he not? If he thinks that he
has committed offense, why should he not ask excuse?
Hamsaduta: Well, he may not think so. He may just find himself falling
Prabhupada: Then fallen down, what can be done? To save from this
fallen down she should ask or he should ask, “Please excuse me. I have
done…” That’s all. Finish it. And a devotee is always prepared to
excuse. Why should he not ask? Yes. One should be very cautious, and
if it happens so, then he should ask to be excused. That’s all. Yes.
Devotee (2): That’s the cause of all falldown, committing offenses at
the feet of a pure devotee?
Prabhupada: There are many causes. One should be cautious, that’s all.

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Revatinandana: That service to mankind is service God?
Prabhupada: That is nonsense.
Guest (3): Doctor. For doctor, I mean.
Prabhupada: Well, that is another thing. When doctor gives service to
man, he does not give service to the man; he gives service to the
money. (laughter)
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said, kalau sudra-sambhavah: “In the Kali-yuga the population is all
sudra.” There is no brahminical culture. Brahminical culture means
sama, dama, controlling the mind, controlling the senses. A real
brahmana will never agree to embrace the opposite sex in public way.
No. That is not brahmana’s business. He has been trained up how to
become controller of the mind, controller of the senses. That is the
first business of a brahmana. Sama, dama, satyam. He is truthful,
saucam, clean, thrice taking bath. So you should always… You are
given the chance of becoming brahmana. You should not become again
sudras or mlecchas or candalas. Be careful. This is brahmana business.
If we again come back to candalas or sud… Candala means less than
the sudras. Even sudras, they eat meat under control. But candalas,
they eat meat without any control. So just like in the Vedic society,
although there are meat-eaters, they would eat meat after offering
…the brahmana… Not exactly qualified; otherwise he would not have
fallen. He was on the neophyte stage. Therefore we restrict, “No
illicit sex.” Completely forbidden. Otherwise it will be very
difficult to keep oneself in the brahminical standard and make
spiritual progress. Without being in the platform of brahmana, you
cannot make any spiritual progress. That is not… A sudra, a
vaisya… But they can be trained up. Therefore Krsna said,

mam hi partha vyapasritya
ye ‘pi syuh papa-yonayah
striyo sudras tatha vaisyas
te ‘pi yanti param gatim

In Krsna consciousness, a sudra, a candala, the lowborn, he can be
elevated to the highest stage of Vaisnava. Vaisnava is higher stage
than brahmana.

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So hrd-roga-kama, this hrd-roga, hrc-chaya, is a heart disease. It
is very, very difficult to avoid unless one is fully Krsna conscious.
And that is stated by Yamunacarya:

yadavadhi mama cettah krsna-padaravinde
nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyatam rantum asit
tadavadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane
bhavati mukha-vikarah sustu nisthivanam ca

This is the test. Yadavadhi krsna-padaravinde. “Since I have learned
how to take transcendental bliss from the lotus feet of Krsna…” He
is explaining. He was an emperor. He had ample opportunity of
enjoyment, material enjoyment. He was enjoying it. But he said, “Since
I have become Krsna conscious and I am taking pleasure in Krsna
consciousness, from that time,” bata nari-sangame smaryamane,
“whenever I think of enjoying with woman, I spite on it.” This is the
test. This is the test, how I am becoming advanced. You do not require
any certificate from anyone. You can learn yourself. Just like when
you are eating, you do not require any certificate from others,
“Whether I am feeling all right?” Eating means you are hungry, so if
you eat, you will feel satisfied. Your hunger will be satisfied. You
will be getting strength. These are the symptoms that have eaten.
Similarly, when you’ll no longer be attracted by this sex desire, then
you should understand that “I am now making progress in Krsna
consciousness.” This is the test.
So this boy became victimized. Although he was under training, he
was not completely fit. Therefore he fell victimized by seeing this
affair, lusty affairs. So at that time might be one or two cases. Now
the whole world is full with all of these lusty desires, especially in
the Western country. Here also now it has come. No more they are
following the Vedic principles. But it is not so deteriorated as in
the Western countries, and so we should be very, very careful. Not
only… Simply becoming careful will not. We must advance in Krsna
consciousness, and that is very easily done by chanting Hare Krsna
mantra. If you keep yourself always engaged in chanting Hare Krsna,
Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, then it will be… Ceto-darpana-marjanam.
This is hrc-chaya-vasam. The lusty desire is a disease of the heart.
It is… Practically it has no value. So therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu
says, ceto-darpana-marjanam. They cleanse the heart with all dirty
things. Ceto-darpana-marjanam. How? Param vijayate
sri-krsna-sankirtanam. This is confirmed in Bhagavatam, kirtanad eva
krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet. Simply by chanting, you can keep.
If you follow the rules and regulation and chanting, then you will not
be victimized. You’ll make your progress without any fear.
Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

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seven to half past eight. So mano madana-vepitam. Cupid is always
disturbing. This material world means this Madana, Cupid, whole
material world. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham. Grhamedhi
means those who have decided to prolong this body for sense enjoyment.
That is going on. Everyone is trying so hard. In big, big cities they
are working so hard like hogs and dogs, not for… They say that “We
are hungry. We must work very hard.” But that is not the fact. The
real fact is that “We want to enjoy sex.” So far hunger is concerned,
you can control, but sex desire, it is very difficult to control.
So this material world means that maithunadi. Maithuna means sex
intercourse. That is the beginning of material life. You know very
well how strong is sex desire in the Western countries. Even old man,
going to die, he has also. Although he cannot enjoy sex, still, he is
trying his best by medicine, by other means, by intoxication, by
stimulant. So that is the only happiness of this material world.

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There are three kinds of women: kamini, svairini, and pumscali.
Pumscali. Svairini means free, freedom. Nobody is controller. That is
called svairini. And kamini means to attract, very much attract. And
another, pumscali–living with woman, er, man for some time; giving
up; again another; again another. That is exemplified by the
lightning. You have seen the lightning–immediately, within a second,
from this cloud to that cloud, that cloud to that cloud. So they are
called svairini. So three divisions. Similarly, there are divisions of
men also.

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became sinful immediately. Therefore we stress on marriage. They
cannot understand why this association stresses so much for marriage,
not to live… They live as friend. That is sudra. There is no legal
marrige. Sudra and sudrani. Just like he was living with the
sudrani–he was not married–as friend. So even sudra’s marriage there
is. For the sudra there is one asrama–that is grhastha asrama. And
for the brahmanas, four asramas: brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha,
sannyasa. This is for the brahmanas. For the ksatriya: brahmacari,
grhastha, and vanaprastha. For the vaisyas: brahmacari and grhastha.
And for the sudras: no brahmacari, only family life, and that also
sometimes without marriage. This is the low-grade, first-grade,
second-grade. So now to live as friend, a sudra, that is now current
all over the world. Now marriage is being forgotten. That is also
written the sastra, that “There will be no more marriage. One man and
woman should live together by agreement.” That is going on now in
Kali-yuga. Svikaram eva hy udvahe, it is stated. Simply agree: “Yes,
you become my bedfellow; I become your bedfellow.” That’s all.
Finished. Svikaram eva hy udvahe. That is marriage. No more that
ceremonial marriage. That is being forgotten. This is Kali-yuga now.
Dampatyam eva hi… Ratim eva hi dampatye: “And their so-called unity,
man and woman, means sex.” There is no other meaning. Dampatye, union
of man and woman, means sex. There is no other religious system, that
husband, wife, live together; they should cooperate for advancing in
Krsna consciousness. These things are being forgotten.
So Kali-yuga, these things are very common, but in the previous
yuga, Satya-yuga, they were not very common, but rare. This
combination of the brahmana and the sudrani, this is accidental. It is
not common. So anyway, accidental or organized, it doesn’t matter. One

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Degradation. The first degradation is undesirable association, the
first degradation; then no more respect for scriptural injunction,
second degradation; and then the third step, aghayur asucih, you
become infected with the low-grade quality. Jaghanya-guna-vrtti-stha
adho gacchanti tamasah. The first grade qualification is sattva-guna,
second rajo-guna, and the third, tamo-guna. So they believe in the
evolution. Now, in this human form of life, what is further evolution?
The further evolution is that if you are keeping in sattva-guna, in
goodness, then you can be promoted, elevated, to the higher planetary
system. Urdhvam gacchanti sattva-sthah. And if you keep yourself in
the rajo-guna, then you will keep within this Bhurloka. And if you are
infected with the tamo-guna, then you again go to lower grade life,
again animal life, plant life. This is the nature’s process. You
cannot avoid it. You may be very much proud falsely, but after death,
after giving up this body, you are completely… You are already
completely under the regulative principle of nature. You cannot
violate even. But if you foolishly violate, then you are preparing
your next life according to your karma. Karmana daiva-netrena.

710106SB.CAL Lectures 229430/530501
So this dictation of Krsna comes through the disciplic success, and
if we follow the instruction of acarya, or spiritual master, then we
are directly following the orders of Krsna, and thus I become a
bhagavad-duta. No more I am the duta or the follower of the dictation
of my senses. And one who is bhagavad-duta, he is called gosvami, just
like Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami. Whose life is dedicated to follow
the dictation of Krsna, they are gosvami. Gosvami is not a caste
title, just like it has become in India. Gosvami… Rupa Gosvami was a
minister. He was rejected by the brahmana society, but Caitanya
Mahaprabhu made him gosvami. He is the original gosvami. Why? Because
he gave up the dictation of Nawab Shah but he followed the dictation
of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Therefore he became gosvami, prabhupada. He
became prabhupada. Prabhupada means the title or the respect which is
given to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is called… Prabhu
means master and pada means maryada, or the respect or the
distinction. So bhagavad-duta, those who are strictly following the
dictation of Krsna under strict disciplinary chain of disciplic
succession, he is Krsna’s representative and he should be given all
the respect. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih. That is the verdict of all sastras.

750906SB.VRN Lectures 229490/530501
This is the… Narayana is so kind that although the name of Narayana
was called by Ajamila, meaning his son, still, because he has chanted
the name, holy name of Narayana, it was immediately taken seriously by
Lord Narayana, and His order-carriers, the Visnudutas, were sent to
save this man. Svalpam apy asya dharmasya trayate mahato bhayat.
So this process of Krsna consciousness is so nice that svalpam apy
asya dharmasya, even slightly executed in due time… Because the
process is we are educating people to chant Hare Krsna to practice, so
in due time, Hare Krsna at the time of death especially, if we can
chant this holy name of God, Hare Krsna, then our life is successful.
So unless we practice, how it will be possible to chant at the time of
death? Because at the time of death the whole system,
anatomical-physiological system, becomes disturbed, in bewilderness,
in coma, in unconsciousness. But still, if one has practiced, there is
possibility of chanting the holy name of the Lord, Hare Krsna,
Narayana. Then that is success of life. In a Bengali there is a
proverb, bhajana kara sadhana kara murti janle haya(?), that “Whatever
you are executing as a bhajana, sadhana, that’s all right, but it will
be tested at the time of your death.” It will be test. Just like a
parrot is chanting, “Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna,” but when some cat comes
in, “Kaw, kaw, kaw.” No. Then missing. So parrot life will not help
you. You must be really chanting without any offense. Then it is
possibility that at the time of death….

750909SB.VRN Lectures 229551/530501
So we have to engage our senses. It is not our senses; it is
Krsna’s. We have forgotten it. I am seeing with my eyes. I am very
much proud I can see. But why you cannot see when you are blind? The
eyes are there. Because the master has withdrawn the sight power. You
can be happy with your decoration of the eyes, but you cannot see. So
actually I do not see. Just like I have got this spectacle. The
spectacle does not see; I am seeing. Similarly, with my eyes I am not
seeing; Krsna is seeing. Because Krsna is seeing, therefore I am
seeing. This is the Vedic version. You will find in Upanisad. Because
the Supreme Brahman is seeing, therefore we are seeing. Because the
Brahman is walking… There are many evidences. Just like this ear.
Now I am hearing with this ear. You are also hearing. But when I am
unconscious, this ear is there, and you call me, “Mr. Mo…, Mr. Sir,
Mr. Sir,” but I cannot hear. The machine is there. Why you cannot
hear? Therefore the Brahman is withdrawn.
So sarvam khalv idam brahman. Everything is working because the
Brahman is there. Otherwise it will not work, simply machine. This
body, because the Brahman, the soul, is there, it is working. And as
soon as the soul is out of this body, it is lump of matter. They are
thinking the brain is working. The brain is not working. Brain is a
machine. Just like typing. You are typing. The machine is not typing.
You are typing. Unless there is touch of Brahman, nothing can work. So
when we realize this, that is called brahma-bhutah prasannatma, when
we understand that “I am simply instrumental.” That is also explained
in the Bhagavad-gita. Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya.
Actually we are under the direction of Krsna, and he has given us this
machine, this body, and we are wandering throughout the whole

…government? There is a Bengali poetry by a Bengali Vaisnava: kaname
janame sabe pita mata paya, krsna guru nahi mile bhajaha e aya.(?) As
soon as you take birth, there is father. Either you take birth as a
snake or you take birth as a human being, without father and mother
there is no question of birth. So father and mother you will get in
every birth. But krsna guru nahi mile bhajaha e aya(?): Krsna and guru
will not be available in every birth. That is very important thing.
You cannot get Krsna in the form of a snake or a cat and a dog, but
you can get Krsna in the form as a human being.