Have a bogus guru ? then bogus arcana seva as well

August 16, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

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Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
 
Continuing along the way with exposing bogus gurus and their followers, we  here below have
 a very conclusive statement by Srila Prabhupada where he clearly  explains that if one has a bogus
guru, then that persons “deity worship” is also bogus.
 
Hare Krsna
 
Damaghosa das
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701223SB.SUR                    Lectures                 
Devotee  (3): In regard to worshiping arca-vigraha form, you have explained that  if one receives a mantra from a spiritual master who is not bona  fide, that mantra has no effect. So I would like to ask  if one is worshiping a Deity and his spiritual master is not bona fide, so  that Deity cannot be considered the Supreme Lord? Prabhupada: Well, first  of all, thing is if the spiritual master is not bona fide, how his  mantra can be bona fide? Your statement is contradictory. If you  say the spiritual master is not bona fide, then how his mantra becomes bona  fide? If he is bona fide, then his mantra is bona fide. Devotee (3):  Then why is he giving instruction to worship the Deity? If the spiritual  master is not bona fide, then is the Deity also not bona fide? Prabhupada:  I do not follow. What does he say? Tamala Krsna: His idea is that if one  receives a mantra from a spiritual master, if the spiritual master is not  bona fide… Prabhupada: Then there is no question of mantra.  There is no question of worshiping Deity. These are all bogus  things. If you are not… Just like here is a young medical man.  If he has not received instruction from a bona fide medical college, so what  is the value of his medical, being… That is… What is called? What is the  technical name? Devotee (4): Quack. Prabhupada: Quack! (laughter)  (pronounces like “quark”) Devotees: Quack. Prabhupada: A quack is not a  medical man, however he may show all red bottles, white bottles. There is a  Bengali proverb, naj jal yac curi tini ei daktar.(?) One stethoscope, naj(?),  and some bottles, jala, and talking all nonsense, he becomes a doctor. That  means the quack doctor, not a… Qualified doctor, he knows what is what. So  naj jal yac curi tini ei daktar(?). In Bengali they say. And mostly  in villages they go on like that. But of course, they have got  some experience. I know in Allahabad there was a doctor, Kabhir, a  Dr. Kabhir. And because in my previous household life I was a chemist  and druggist, I was supplying medicine, so he was my customer. So he  had that… This Dr. Kabhir was a compounder. Later on he practiced. So  he had very, very big prac… He was my biggest customer. He  was purchasing medicine like anything. But he had experience. He  learned from an experienced doctor. He cannot be called a bogus,  because whatever he learned, he was… But generally, one who is not a  bona
fide doctor, he is called a quack. So anything, experience required, not  that you have to go to the medical college. If you are trained under a bona  fide doctor, then also you can get the quality of a doctor.  Similarly, the whole thing is tad-vijnanartham sa  gurum evabhigacchet. One should go to the bona fide spiritual master  to learn this transcendental science.
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Follow bogus guru-you  go to hell

SB 1.19.37  P    The Appearance of Sukadeva Gosvami    Unless  one is perfectly anxious to inquire about the way of perfection, there is no  necessity of approaching a spiritual master. A spiritual master is not a kind of  decoration for a householder. Generally a fashionable materialist engages a  so-called spiritual master without any profit. The pseudo spiritual  master flatters the so-called disciple, and thereby both the master and his ward  go to hell without a doubt.

 

72-12-14.Letter: Tusta  Krsna    As for your next question, can only a few pure devotees  deliver others, anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can  become spiritual master. But unless he on that platform he should not  attempt it. Then both of them will to go to hell, like blind men  leading the blind.

 

SB 6.7.14  Indra  Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati.    Leaders who have fallen  into ignorance and who mislead people by directing them to the path of  destruction [as described in the previous verse] are, in effect, boarding a  stone boat, and so too are those who blindly follow them. A stone boat would be  unable to float and would sink in the water with its passengers.  Similarly, those who mislead people go to hell, and their followers  go with them.

Isopanisad Mantra  12:

 The Lord states  that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional service-which is the one and only  way to approach the Personality of Godhead-one attains complete freedom from the  bondage of birth and death. In other words, the path of salvation from the  material clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment  gained from serving the Lord. The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor  detachment from material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden  shackles of material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities  disguised as religious principles. By a false display of religious  sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all  sorts of immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and  devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the  authoritative ācāryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic  succession. They ignore the Vedic injunction ācāryopāsana-“One must  worship the ācārya“-and Kṛṣṇa’s  statement in the Bhagavad-gītā (4.2) evaṁ paramparā–prāptam, “This supreme  science of God is received through the disciplic succession.” Instead, to  mislead the people in general they themselves become so-called  ācāryas, but they do not even follow the principles of the  ācāryas.

These rogues are  the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no religious  government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot,  however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the  Bhagavad-gītā that envious demons in  the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of  hell (Bg. 16.19-20). Śrī Īśopaniṣad confirms that these pseudo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious  place in the universe after the completion of their spiritual master business, which they conduct simply for sense  gratification.

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