when no attachments-then back to Godhead–SP

June 13, 2022 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

July 3 1975 Denver
Ambarīṣa: When we get to the spiritual sky, we’ll always be able to remember how horrible it is down here? We’ll always be able to remember how terrible it is in the material world?
Prabhupāda: It is terrible.
Ambarīṣa: Yes, we will be able to remember that.
Prabhupāda: That is intelligence. When one remembers that this world is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam [Bg. 8.15], is a place of misery, then we can go. As long as we shall think, “Oh, it is very nice place,” we have to remain. Kṛṣṇa is so kind, “All right, remain in this very nice place.”
Brahmānanda: You gave the example yesterday of Lord Indra. When he took birth here as a hog, then he didn’t want to leave. He thought it was nice.
Prabhupāda: Yes, he also thought it is a very nice place.
Kāśīrāma: Queen Kuntī was always praying that the calamities would happen again and again so that she would remember Kṛṣṇa. If the calamities are always happening in the material world, we will realize it is a terrible place to stay.
Prabhupāda: This is jnana, knowledge. When one comes to this conclusion, “This is worthless,” that is jnana, knowledge. And so long one will think, “No, it is not always bad, sometimes very good,” that is ignorance. (laughs)
Kuruśreṣṭha: They say that without the bad, then the good wouldn’t be as good.
Prabhupāda: So you remain with bad and good. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. That possibility is here. Sometimes you are going to the higher heavenly planets, a long duration of life, better standard of enjoyment—again coming back. [break] Good and bad is exemplified: just like I catch you and put down the water, and when you are suffocated, I raise you little, and you say, “Oh. (laughter) It is very nice.” But you do not know, again you are going to be… You see? “This good, bad” is here like that. He is put into the water and suffocated, and when he is taken out little, he says, “Oh, it is very good. It is very good.” The rascal does not know, the next moment he is going to be again drowned in that. That is going on. Daṇḍya-jane rāja-jana… That was the chief punishment formerly. If one has to be punished, instead of putting into the jail and feed him, the officers will take him to a river and put him in the water. In this way, one day doing, he will say “I will never do these things. Please excuse me.” Daṇḍya-jane rāja-jane nadite cubaya. [break] ...unless one remembers this, that “To be in the material world, how suffocating it is,” he will not fit for going to back to Godhead. He must be completely detestful. If he keeps little attachment, “No, it is very good sometimes,” then you have to remain here. [break] “This is not permanent. I shall be put next moment in the bad condition.” That he must know. That is knowledge. And if he makes compromise, then he has to be again… [break]
Devotee (4): …consciousness part of this life, up to the time of death, in our next life we will be put in a situation immediately where we can take up Kṛṣṇa consciousness again or will we have to suffer karma before we came into Kṛṣṇa consciousness?
Prabhupāda: You will get Kṛṣṇa conscious again. Yoga-bhraṣṭaḥ sa�jāya… Śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe yoga-bhraṣṭaḥ sa�jāyate [Bg. 6.41]. A Kṛṣṇa conscious person will be given all comforts of material life so that he may regain without any botheration.
Yadubara: Sometimes it is stated that Kṛṣṇa will take everything away from the devotee.
Prabhupāda: That is special favor, (laughter) that “This rascal is again attached. Take all his…” That is special favor. That is not ordinary favor, so that when everything is taken away, he will completely surrender to Kṛṣṇa, “Kṛṣṇa, I have nothing except You.” tumi binā ke āche āmara
“I have nothing.” That is very good.
.Prabhupāda: Yes. When He sees, “That fool wants Me, at the same time, material world. So take his material possession, everything, so that he will want only Me, that’s all.” Actually, it was done to me. (laughs) I have got practical experience. I did not want to take sannyāsa. I thought that I shall do business. And Kṛṣṇa forced me to take sannyāsa and all, everything, dismantled.

Maya and Krsna-side by side–SP

June 13, 2022 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

March 2 1970 letter Bhagavan
The pradhana is the ingredient part of material energy. Yes, the Maya is covering all the material energies. Therefore one who is materially advanced, covered with riches, covered with learning, covered with fame or covered with any material opulences, is understood to be covered with Maya. Srila Bhaktivinode says, jada vidya saba mayar baibhava “the material opulences are expansions of Maya’s influence.” As such, according to Vedic process, one voluntarily renounces the material opulences.
The Goswamis left their government service, and there are many other instances. Bharata Maharaja left his kingdom and Lord Buddha left his kingdom—these are all different attempts to get out of Maya’s influence. But our philosophy is that things employed in Krsna’s service have no more influence of Maya. Therefore it is called cinmaya or spiritual; spiritual means complete knowledge. One who can follow the instructions of Isopanisad can understand that nothing belongs to Maya, but everything belongs to Krsna. This knowledge is Krsna Consciousness. 
Regarding the end of devotees of Lord Jesus Christ, they can go to heaven, that is all. That is a planet in the material world. A devotee of Lord Jesus Christ is one who is strictly following the ten commandments. Now just like in the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” this is a moral instruction for the sinful man. Similarly Lord Buddha also emphasized ahimsa paramadharma “the highest religion is nonviolence.” So these instructions are for the sinful men. When one is pious, instead of being sinful, he is promoted to the higher planetary systems like Janaloka, Mahaloka, or Tapaloka and they are above the planet Svargaloka. So persons who are cleansed of sinful life become eligible for spiritual life. From the instructions of Lord Jesus Christ we find that the stress is given to make men free from sinful life—such as “Thou shalt not kill” “Thou shalt not covet”—like that. Therefore the conclusion is that the devotees of Lord Jesus Christ are promoted to the heavenly planets which are within this material world.
 
Nov 1 1970 letter Satyabhama
Regarding Brahmananda, he is actually surrendered soul, but Maya is so strong that on account of association he has even fallen down. So these two things are always side by side—Maya and KrsnaKrsna is service and Maya is sense gratification, so every moment we are prone to be subjugated by either of them. Our duty is therefore to be very, very careful. The poison is personal ambition. So everyone has the chance, therefore one should not be complacent. Doubts may come about, but one should be firmly fixed up that there cannot be any doubt on the Spiritual Master or Krsna.

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