It is the argument, logic. They should continue. And to become angry and to go away, that means defeat.

January 11, 2022 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Amar Puri writes:

Dear Learned Readers,

It is the argument, logic. JITARATI PRABHU and the supporters of the Red Set of SB.  should continue. And to become angry and to go away, that means defeat.

Since they know that their nonsense cannot be upheld, therefore,  they resort to Ad Hominem attacks. malign character. Their OWN character is vulgar i.e. promoting and protecting the UNAUTHORIZED – CHANGED BOOKS printed and financed by Shriman Jatarati das for his personal vested interest, so, they use vulgar language on others.  It is that simple

Allow me plese to quote ;  Srila Prabhupada did not care for these sorts of barking and bickering :  

” Let the dogs bark, the caravan will pass.”

761005SB.VRN

Prabhupāda:So many agitators came and gone, but the Vedic process will go on. Let the dogs bark, the caravan will pass.

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Prabhupada explains the process of death and how to avoid it

January 8, 2022 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

April 7 1974 Bombay
 
Prabhupāda: This example is givenSuppose we are walkingThis step, when I assure that “This is all right, it is not, it will not go down,” then I take up this. Then again thisThis example is given. Similarly, change of body like that. As soon as it is settled up what kind of body he is going to accept or which is being offered to him, daivanetreṇa, by higher authority, then this man leaves this body and again enters in the womb of the body which he is destined to get. This is the process of death.
Yadubara: Is that immediate, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Immediate. Just like immediate I am walking. When it is fixed up, then I take up. Then when it is fixed up, then I take up, like this. Immediately.
Yaśomatīnandana: What about hell? How does the jīva soul go to hell?
Prabhupāda: Yes. They go. Those who are going to hell, that is fixed up very quickly. It doesn’t take much time. Hell means he is getting the next body, hellish body. That’s all. Suppose he is going to get the hellish body to become the worm of stool, so in that way he enters the worm, mother worm, to get the body and enjoy the hell. That’s all.
Satsvarūpa: Don’t they sometimes have to go to Yamarāja first for practice?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is daivanetreṇa. These things are finished very quickly. And if it takes little time, then this man who is dying, he remains in coma and does not die. Because the judgement is going on, the decision waiting, coma. You have seen sometimes a man is in coma for seven days, eight days? Yes. That means his judgement is going on, that… Such kind of death means very sinful death. Not yet settled up, very complicated case. Therefore it takes time.
Yadubara: What about persons who die in their sleep? Is that a sinful death?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Dream or awakened, everything is dream, gross dream and subtle dream. That’s all. This is also dream. What do you mean by dream? Dream means existent for a little period. That’s all. So night dream is for two hours and this dream is for twenty-four hours.

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3 morning walk conversations-but all tied together

January 7, 2022 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

April 11 1974 Bombay
(because Krsna can give knowledge of past present future, that means He and His body are eternal-no misery because no birth or death)
 
Prabhupāda: These Māyāvādī philosophers, they create God. Anthropomorphism. What is that anthropomorphism.
Satsvarūpa: To imagine that God has a form. Man imagines God, not that God exists originally, but man imagines God based on his own form.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Anthropomorphism it is called. They create a form, but that is not the fact. God has His eternal form. That I explained. Sac-cid-ānanda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1]. Vigraha means form. And it is sac-cid-ānanda, means eternal, full of knowledge and… Just like Kṛṣṇa is speaking Bhagavad-gītā. People are accepting, because that is real knowledge. And nobody reads other books so carefully. And this Bhagavad-gītā is read all over the world. All big, big scholars, big, big philosophers, theologists, they read. Because that is real knowledge. That is the proof. It is real knowledge. Cit. Sac-cid. And one who is giving real knowledge, it is natural conclusion, he has got eternal body. We cannot give real knowledge because we forget. As we change our body, we forget. Just like at night we dream, but we forget the body, this body. In another body we go to some dreamland. So because we change body therefore we forget. And because Kṛṣṇa is giving knowledge perfect, past, present and future, therefore it means that He has got eternal body. This is the proof. One should understand everything with logic. Is it not? We forget because we have no eternal body. Last birth, what I was, what you were, we have forgotten, because changed body. Death means forgetting. So because Kṛṣṇa is giving perfect knowledge of past, future and present, therefore it is to be understood that He has got eternal body. And eternal body means there is no misery. Misery means janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi [Bg. 13.9], to take birth, to die… (aside:) (Hare Kṛṣṇa.) And to suffer from disease, to suffer from old age. These are the miseries. So because Kṛṣṇa hasn’t got this temporary body, therefore He is not suffering from these things. Therefore Kṛṣṇa, you will see always, young man. You will never see Kṛṣṇa’s picture as old man, because He is eternal body. This is the conclusion..
March 31 1974 Bombay
(Because the Lord and His parts are both nitya, eternal, there must be a place where these transactions (of bhakti) take place-therefore Vaikuntha must exist)
 
Mr. Sar: Eko bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān.
Prabhupāda: In this way, from Vedas, from guru, from saintly persons, we have to understand. Sādhu guru śāstra vākya. Sādhu means who speaks strictly on the śāstra. Guru also speaks strictly on śāstra. Śāstra is the medium. Yaḥ śāstra-vidhim utsṛjya vartate kāma-kārataḥ, na siddhim avāpno… [Bg. 16.23]. Therefore we protest. Unless there is something mentioned in the authorized śāstras we don’t accept it.
Guest (1): Is it nityaḥ anityānām or nityaḥ nityānām?
Prabhupāda: Nityo nityānām. Plural number.
Dr. Patel: Plural, yes.
Guest (1): No, no, that’s right.
Prabhupāda: Plural number.
Guest (1): Permanent. Permanent, impermanent.
Prabhupāda: Both of them permanent. No, no, no. Permanent… The jīvas and the Supreme Lord, both of them are permanent, nityā. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre [Bg. 2.20]. Just like nityaḥ śāśvato ‘yam. It is said in the Bhagavad-gītā, nityaḥ śāśvato ‘yam. Eternal, always existing. And this material word has been described: asasvataḥ. Duḥkhālayam aśāśvataḥ.
Dr. Patel: Aśāśvatam.
Prabhupāda: Aśāś… It is not permanent. Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate [Bg. 8.19]. It appears and disappears. So because nityo nityānām, there is transaction between the nitya, the Supreme Nitya, Kṛṣṇa, and the…
Dr. Patel: Cetanaś cetanānām.
Prabhupāda: And the subordinate nityas, the living entities. So there must be one place also where this transaction takes place. Because this is anitya. This material world is anitya. So how the transaction between the nitya and nityānām can take place? Because the place is anitya. Therefore there must be a place which is nitya. There must be place. That is Vaikuṇṭha dhāma, spiritual worldSo by practicing bhakti-yoga scientifically, by practical understanding, practical application, yogaṁ yuñjan mad-āśrayaḥ, either at the shelter…
….If you simply understand Kṛṣṇa, then sarvam eva vijñātaṁ bhavanti. Then you have got full knowledge. And that is also stated in the Fourth Chapter. Janma karma me divyam yo janāti tattvataḥ, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti… [Bg. 4.9]. He becomes immediately liberated. Simply if you understand Kṛṣṇa, what is Kṛṣṇa, tattvataḥ, in truth, then you are, your business is finished.
 

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Will I be able to think of Krsna at the time of my death? SP answers

January 4, 2022 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

April 1 1974 Bombay-Srila Prabhupada covers a lot of important topics just in this one morning walk conversation. To think of God or Krsna at time of death is not so simple a thing. …the sraddha ceremony,and karma yoga, what is it?

.Prabhupāda: So at the time of death, when everything is disordered, nothing is in order, unless one is very strongly practiced, how he can remember?
Dr. Patel: My father spoke, “Oṁ,” and he stopped breathing and…
Prabhupāda: That’s nice. Oṁ, oṁ ity eka… That is…
Dr. Patel: Then he stopped breathing.
Prabhupāda: That means he practiced. Therefore, either you practice Oṁ or Hare Kṛṣṇa, that is all right.
Dr. Patel: Whatever we do of our whole, all our whole, all day of life, it comes at the end. That is why you must continue to do for the life.
Prabhupāda: Twenty-four hours. Kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ [Cc. Ādi 17.31]. Always Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa… In this way practicing, if somebody is fortunate enough, he can remember.
Dr. Patel: Eṣā brāhmī sthitiḥ pārtha na… Sthitvā samanta-kāle ‘pi brahma-nirvāṇam ṛcchati.
Prabhupāda: So…
Dr. Patel: Therefore at the last moment you… But you can’t get that last moment in this position because you have, whole life, you have…
Prabhupāda: Yes, you have spoiled your life simply in material activities. How you can remember?
Dr. Patel: But even if you are doing material activities by your body, and by your mental activities you are bhaja kṛṣṇa…
Prabhupāda: But you are under the body… Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni [Bg. 3.27]. Body and mind is working… Unless you practice to be above body and mind… That is bhakti-yoga. Māṁ cāvyabhicāriṇi-bhakti-yoga…, sa guṇān samatītya. You cannot expect that you go on doing all these material activities and at the time of death you’ll remember Kṛṣṇa. That is not possible.
Dr. Patel: That can’t be done.
Prabhupāda: That is not possible.
Chandobhai: Should be a real concentrated difference
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Chandobhai: When you do the work, you should be a real concentration.
Prabhupāda: That is not possible.
Chandobhai: Therefore there is no… Because your attachment is more to the…
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Chandobhai: …reserves of that…
Prabhupāda: Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhā man-mayā… [Bg. 4.10].
Chandobhai: Mad-bhaktaḥ.
Prabhupāda: Man-mayā mad-aśritāḥ. Unless he takes shelter of Kṛṣṇa, these things are not possible. Simply by talking it is not possible. There must be practice.
Chandobhai: Acaropanam.(?)
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: (Sanskrit)
Chandobhai: Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaram bhāvaṁ tyajanty ante… [break]
Prabhupāda: There is a risk. Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi. If you are thinking of dog, then you become a dog.
Dr. Patel: Just as Bhārata did it.
Prabhupāda: Yes. yes, that is example. Even Bhārata Mahārāja, such a great personality, simply due to little affection to a cub of deer, he became a deer. So these people are attached to so many things. So how much risk is there at the time of death they do not understand. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, mām ekam.

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Srila Prabhupada speaks – “If I have written one book, my words are my meaning. Why you should give meaning? I shall kick on your face.”

January 3, 2022 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Srila Prabhupada speaks – “If I have written one book, my words are my meaning.
Why you should give meaning? I shall kick on your face.”

Prabhupāda: Majority or minority, it doesn’t matter. But why you should take Bhagavad-gītā to establish your rascal theories? That means you are cheating.

Hare Krishna, here are a few quotes from Srila Prabhupada’s instructions that clearly explain the following:a.) What is speculation?b.) How is the Gita misinterpreted?c.) How should the Gita be preached?d.) Mission of Caitanya Mahaprabhue.) Criticism of making compromise in philosophy for personal gainf.) Offense of disobedience to the order of Gurug.) Srila Prabhupada’s explanation to why he presented the Bhagavad Gita “As It Is”h.) Importance of reading the Gita “As It Is” with the guidance of a bona fide Gurui.) Getting association with Krsna by reading Bhagavad Gita
1.Paramahaṁsa: My question is: A pure devotee, when he comments Bhagavad-gītā, someone who never sees him physically, but he just comes in contact with his commentary, explanation, is this the same thing?
Prabhupāda: Yes. You can associate with Kṛṣṇa by reading Bhagavad-gītā. And these saintly persons, they have given their explanations, comments. So where is the difficulty? Everyone is helping you.[Morning Walk — June 11, 1974, Paris]——————————2.

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The Conclusion of alligations about the LIES and THE CHEATINGS in Printing of the adulterated – changed books (the Red Set of 10 SB.) promoted by Jiatarati das

January 3, 2022 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Dear Learned Readers,

The Conclusion of allegations about the LIES and the CHEATING in Printing of the adulterated – changed books (the Red Set of 10 SB. as Original ) promoted by Jiatarati das as discussed on this link ;

Yasodanandana helps Kali destroy the last leg of religion with his lies.

From the article on the above Link, we read the following responses from Jitarati Prabhu allegations raised against Yasodanandana Prabhu  ;

Jitarati’s response:

“If they got an approval” ? These are the words of a demon, with no faith in Srila Prabhupada. They want to deny the approval, which they actually do below.

Yasoda you quoted this undeniable confirmation of Prabhupada: “in a letter dated September 7, 1976, “Concerning the editing of Jayadvaita Prabhu, whatever he does is approved by me. I have confidence in him.”

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Will be accepted by those who are thoroughly honest

January 3, 2022 in Articles by Laksman dasa

By Isana dasa

Those who are thoroughly honest can only mean those who are actually seeking to know the truth, and are not reading for some other purpose. Those who appreciate the necessity.  Just like when there is fire in the house, those who live there, even if they cannot speak the language of the neighbor, but they need some help to put out the fire, they will make themselves understood.  Language will not be a barrier.  In the same way, one who actually wants to make a solution to the problem of repeated birth and death, such a person will not protest the message of solution on the basis of imperfect language, but will accept with gratitude.  Srila Prabhupada therefore says that presentation in so-called perfect language is not required, but that apparently imperfect linguistic presentation will be appreciated by those who are after the truth, the real solution.  Those who are changing the books disagree (surely they have read these passages), and they want to make the books acceptable by those who are not of this honest category, acceptable by those who read with some ulterior motive.  That the book changers want the books to be accepted by those who will read with ulterior motive means that the changers also have ulterior motive of gaining acceptance of dishonest rascals more than they wish to  satisfy of the orders of the acharya.  And this is their dishonesty in claiming that they are doing it in service.  Therefore both the book changers, and those who they are changing the books for, are simply the thoroughly dishonest collection of the cheaters and the cheated. 

Wealth, in Vedic time was not paper money-SP

January 1, 2022 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

April 10 1974 Bombay
Prabhupāda: Anna-vastra, anna-vastra-dhana. Charity means to give in charity anna and vastra and cows. [break] …give in charity some paper, one hundred rupees. (laughs) Another cheating. And he is also satisfied, “One hundred rupees.” What is this one hundred? It is a paper, a piece of paper. [break] …earned, black market, white market. Because when one does business, he has to do it, but it should be purified. I have seen the Marwaris, they do that. Although when earning money, they don’t care, they do anything, but they give in charity. [break] …purify the body by taking bath, similarly, the wealth is purified by the charity process, giving it to the brāhmaṇas and Vaiṣṇavas. Just like Rūpa Gosvāmī. He accumulated much wealth. He brought in a big boat, all gold coins. So… So he distributed fifty percent to the brāhmaṇa and Vaiṣṇava and twenty-five percent he gave to the relatives, and twenty-five percent he kept for his personal emergency. This is example shown by Rūpa Gosvāmī. [break] Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyam vaiśya-karma svabhāva-jam [Bg. 18.44]. So where is that vaiśya, giving protection to the cows? Although they were village men, they were very rich. That is the old Vedic civilization. Now you go to the village—all poor. The cows are skinny, people have no home, no nice cloth. This is the position. And we are still advanced, advanced. They are proud of “advanced.” And here is the… Just hear the description of the village, with cows only. So how much fallen we have become, we can just imagine.

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Rascal Editors Conversation – The Context of the Order Is NEWER EDITION REPRINTS

January 1, 2022 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Vidura Mahatma Das wrote:

Dear respected prabhus.

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Regarding the reprint of SB that has come under discussion again recently, I would like to make one point.

Jitarati said:

Jitarati: First of all the translation for Sadhu is not a mistake. I have explained that all before so will not repeat it again here. It is exactly the same in the 76, 72 and Delhi version. The real point here is that you seem to completely misunderstand what book is being read and therefore have come to a wrong conclusion. The version that was being read on June 22/77 was not the 76 version but the 72 version.

Vidura M D: Even with the 1972 edition being read during that conversation, and even with the change “of the sages” being present in the 1972 edition and fixed in the 1976 edition, this does not change the fact that the point and main issue being raised in the Rascal Editors conversation became that changes were being made to newer printed editions of books, which is why Srila Prabhupada ordered in that conversation that the next printing should be again to the original way. This order by Srila Prabhupada was not necessarily based on the initial mistake found in the 1972 edition “of the sages”. To assume this is logically incorrect. Srila Prabhupada’s order at the end of that conversation cannot be nullified on the grounds that the initial mistake brought up belonged to the 1972 edition. This is precisely what I believe Jitarati prabhu is trying to do but it is a mistake. We must look at the flow of context of that conversation leading up to Srila Prabhupada’s order, and that context is of newer edition reprints of books after the 1972 edition.

I am also submitting an article that I wrote on July 7, 2018 when this same debate came up with Purujit. Please find article attached herein.

Wishing you both a happy Krishna conscious new year,

Your servant,

Vidura Mahatma dasa