Is it possible SP’s godbrother did NOT believe in Vaikuntha??

June 2, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Is it possible that a prominent Gaudiya matha sannyasi would not believe in the Vaikuntha planets? See below
 
April 30 1977 conversations.
Prabhupāda: There was a Gosāi. He was reading Caitanya-caritāmṛta. So the description of the planetary system there is. He used to say to his audience, “Actually these things are not there. These are imaginary descriptions.” He was such a fool. So the whole world has taken like that, “symbolic, imagination.”
 
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And he was lecturing on Caitanya-caritāmṛta. I think you mentioned that one of your Godbrothers once said to you, “You really believe that there is such a place, Kṛṣṇaloka, Vaikuṇṭhaloka?” He was himself…
 
Prabhupāda: Bon Mahārāja did not believe. No… Nobody ever thought of it.

 

 

Here is the description of the spiritual World by Srila Krsna das Kaviraj

 

 

Madhya 21.4--“The breadth of each Vaikuṇṭha planet is described as eight miles multiplied by one hundred, by one thousand, by ten thousand, by one hundred thousand, and by ten million. In other words, each Vaikuṇṭha planet is expanded beyond our ability to measure.
Madhya 21.6--“Since all the Vaikuṇṭha planets are located in a certain corner of the spiritual sky, who can measure the spiritual sky?
Madhya 21.7–“The shape of the spiritual sky is compared to a lotus flower. The topmost region of that flower is called the whorl, and within that whorl is Kṛṣṇa’s abode. The petals of the spiritual lotus flower consist of many Vaikuṇṭha planets.
Madhya 21.8–“Each Vaikuṇṭha planet is full of spiritual bliss, complete opulence and space, and each is inhabited by incarnations. If Lord Brahmā and Lord Śiva cannot estimate the length and breadth of the spiritual sky and the Vaikuṇṭha planets, how can ordinary living entities begin to imagine them?
Madhya 21.9–” ‘O supreme great one! O Supreme Personality of Godhead! O Supersoul, master of all mystic power! Your pastimes are taking place continuously in these worlds, but who can estimate where, how and when You are employing Your spiritual energy and performing Your pastimes? No one can understand the mystery of these activities.’
PURPORT-This verse is quoted from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.14.21).
Madhya 21.15–” ‘My Lord, You are unlimited. Even the predominating deities of the higher planetary systems, including Lord Brahmā, could not find Your limitations. Nor could You Yourself ascertain the limit of Your qualities. Like atoms in the sky, there are multi-universes with seven coverings, and these are rotating in due course of time. All the experts in Vedic understanding are searching for You by eliminating the material elements. In this way, searching and searching, they come to the conclusion that everything is complete in You. Thus You are the resort of everything. This is the conclusion of all Vedic experts.’
PURPORT-This verse from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.87.41) is confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā: After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.” (Bg. 7.19)
After searching for the Absolute Truth throughout the universe, learned scholars and Vedic experts cannot reach the ultimate goal. In this way they come to Kṛṣṇa.
When there is a discussion about the Absolute Truth, there are always various pros and cons. The purpose of such arguments is to come to the right conclusion. Such an argument is generally known as neti neti (“not this, not that”). Until one comes to the right conclusion, the process of thinking, “This is not the Absolute Truth, that is not the Absolute Truth,” will continue. When we come to the right conclusion, we accept the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa, as the ultimate truth.
Madhya 21.16–“Apart from all argument, logic and negative or positive processes, when Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa was present as the Supreme Personality of Godhead at Vṛndāvana, one could not find a limit to His potencies by studying His characteristics and activities.
Madhya 21.17–“At Vṛndāvana, the Lord immediately created all material and spiritual planets in one moment. Indeed, all of them were created with their predominating deities.
Madhya 21.18--“We do not hear of such wonderful things anywhere. Simply by hearing of those incidents, one’s consciousness is agitated and cleansed.
PURPORT-When Lord Kṛṣṇa was present in the earthly Vṛndāvana, Lord Brahmā, taking Him to be an ordinary cowherd boy, wanted to test His potency. Therefore Lord Brahmā stole all the cows, calves and cowherd boys from Kṛṣṇa and hid them by his illusory energy. When Kṛṣṇa saw that Brahmā had stolen His cows, calves and cowherd boys, He immediately created many material and spiritual planets in Lord Brahmā’s presence. Within a moment, cows, cowherd boys, calves and unlimited Vaikuṇṭhas-all expansions of the Lord’s spiritual energy-were manifested. As stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā: ānanda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhāvitābhiḥ. Not only did Kṛṣṇa create all the paraphernalia of His spiritual energy, but He also created unlimited material universes with unlimited Brahmās. All these pastimes, which are described in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, will cleanse one’s consciousness. In this way one can actually understand the Absolute Truth.

Some Conclusions-The above descriptions of the spiritual world are very nice and one will never hear or read this detailed explanation anywhere-except in the authorized Vedic literatures.
Below we have shown how Srila Prabhupada says that hearing about these things is much better than thinking about this -especially thru the ascending process of neti neti-its not this, its not that in an attempt to find our what IT or Krsna actually. is.
Prabhupada even tells us that his godbrother Bon maharaj once asked SP if he believed in these Vaikuntha planets? I know that is hard to understand or believe that how could a Gaudiya matha sannyasi-even ask such a question? But then how can iskcon’s so called leaders not understand the very simple process Srila Prabhupada set up for continuing his movement thru ritvik initiations? Lack of faith and envy of the Acarya.
As Srila Prabhupada often said-these things are going on….
 
                                Hearing more important than thinking in kali yuga

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