“So Krsna Worship is easy, universal” -SP

May 3, 2019 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

“So Kṛṣṇa worship is so easy, universal. Other worshiping method you have to collect so many things, then you can worship. Or you must have temple, you must have church, you must have worshiping place. But Kṛṣṇa is everywhere. And you can collect this patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalam (leaf, flower, fruit) anywhere. You can worship Kṛṣṇa anywhere. But you have to learn how to worship. What is that learning? Bhaktyā. That is the method. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati (BG 9.26). Thispatraṁ puṣpam is not important thing. The important thing is bhakti, devotion. That is wanted. Without bhakti, if you offer Kṛṣṇa very big plate, Kṛṣṇa is not hungry to take your food. He’ll not accept it. He’ll not accept anything if you do not offer with your love, bhaktyā, love and serving spirit: ‘My dear Kṛṣṇa, You are so opulent. I have nothing to offer You because You have got everything. But I have tried to collect these things to my best power, so I am offering You. Kindly take it.’ This is mantra. This is mantra.
 
Don’t require much mantra. That meekness, that humbleness: ‘Kṛṣṇa, I am most insignificant. I have nothing to give You, neither You are very much hungry or You have to take… You have got many, many…’Lakṣmī-sahasra-śata-sambhrama-sevyamānam (Bs. 5.29). Kṛṣṇa is served by the goddess of fortune—not one; many millions. Here we are praying to goddess of fortune, ‘My dear goddess of fortune, kindly give me little fortune. I am very poor.’ That is our position. We are praying. But Kṛṣṇa’s position is that lakṣmī-sahasra-śata-sambhrama-sevyamānam. The goddess of fortune is praying Kṛṣṇa—just like thegopīs, they are all goddess of fortune—’Kṛṣṇa, kindly take little service from me.’ This is the position.
 
So why Kṛṣṇa will come to you, take your foodstuff? Because Kṛṣṇa wants that you surrender. That is required. That is required. Therefore we should serve Kṛṣṇa, because without bhakti… Many times Kṛṣṇa has said, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti (BG 18.55): simply through bhakti. You cannot understand Kṛṣṇa by your so-called scholarship, scientific knowledge and speculation. These are all useless, nonsense things. You cannot understand what is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa clearly says, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti. Bhaktyā, ‘Simply by devotional service one can understand Me.’ Bhakti means serving, service. Sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ (Brs. 1.2.234). When you become in service attitude, just to serve Kṛṣṇa with humble attitude, with devotion, then Kṛṣṇa will reveal. Otherwise you cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. It is not possible. If you think that ‘I am very rich man. I can offer Kṛṣṇa so many things, nice dress, nice foodstuff. Kṛṣṇa now is within my grip,’ no. Kṛṣṇa is not so cheap.”
 
(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Los Angeles, December 13, 1973)
 
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If we are sincere we will get a bona fide guru-if we are not sincere, we will get cheated-SP

May 1, 2019 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Morning Walk—December 7, 1973, Los Angeles:
 
Bali Mardana: If someone is actually sincere, can he be cheated or will he always get a bona fide guru?
Prabhupāda: No, if he is sincere he’ll get. Yes. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. Guru and Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is within you. As soon as He sees that you are sincere, He’ll give you the right person.
Bali Mardana: So if you are not completely sincere, you might get a Guru Maharaji.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Bali Mardana: If you’re not completely sincere, you might get someone else.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because you want to be cheated, you go to the cheater. That’s all. Ye yathā māṁ prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham [Bg. 4.11]. Kṛṣṇa is intelligent, superintelligent. If you are a cheater, He’ll cheat you. He’ll cheat you. First-class cheat, Kṛṣṇa. But if you’re actually sincere, then He’ll give you the right thing. That is stated in the Bhag…, mattaḥ smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca: [Bg. 15.15] “Everything is coming from Me: smṛtiḥ, remembrance, and forgetfulness.” If you are a cheater, Kṛṣṇa will give you such intelligence, you’ll forget Kṛṣṇa forever.
Dr. Wolfe: Śrīla Prabhupāda, so it is so, “Birds of a feather flock together.” The cheaters flock together.
Prabhupāda: Yes. “Birds of the same feather flock together.”
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Below is a comment made by one prominent leader…..

Yes, but even in ISKCON they are chanting from Prabhupada’s books and hear his kirtans, bhajans, follow his instructions to some degree, and thus they are benefitted somewhat in spite of their misleaders. I myself served under these misleaders who had hijacked the mission for many years, yet I know that I made advanacement in that time, because I was hearing from Srila Prabhupada and following his instructions. It is not all black and white.

So this devotee leader above says you can make advancement even while serving under bogus gurus-which he agrees are “bogus-but here is what our spiritual master tells us (and there is many more quotes along this line of thought)
1. Honolulu july 4 1974-
Sudāmā: There also is the position of or some question is raised as to how to actually follow the authority. What is the authority between…?
Prabhupāda: Authority is your spiritual master. You do not know who is authority? Why this question is there? If one is initiated, then he accepted the authority. And if he does not follow the instruction of spiritual master, he is a rascal. He is defying the authority. That’s all.
Sudāmā: The question also is there: the authority is the spiritual master, but the via media to the spiritual master… The difference between, like we were discussing in the automobile of śikṣā and dīkṣā-guru.
Prabhupāda: Then so śikṣā and dīkṣā-guru… A śikṣā-guru who instructs against the instruction of spiritual, he is not a śikṣā guru. He is a demon. Śikṣā-guru, dīkṣā-guru means… Sometimes a dīkṣā-guru is not present always. Therefore one can take learning, instruction, from an advanced devotee. That is called the śikṣā-guru. Śikṣā-guru does not mean he is speaking something against the teachings of the dīkṣā-guru. He is not a śikṣā-guru. He is a rascal.
Because that is offense. Guror avajñā.  First offense is guror avajñā, defying the authority of guru. This is the first offense. So one who is offensive, how he can make advance in chanting? He cannot make. Then everything is finished in the beginning
 
(In the above quote Srila Prabhupada tells us that if somebody says anything different than his initiating guru, then he is a demon and everything is finished-even in the beginning of this offense, what to speak of later) 
So one may argue , that since his bogus guru JPS was most of the time absent, this means that most of the time he was  doing some “service” without JPS’s being there. He was thinking that just because JPS was not physically there it means  he was making “advancement”. So here this concept of physicality again comes into our view, that you “need” a living guru to instruct and guide usBut it is not the physicality of a bona fide guru being present that determines our service to be spiritual, but our surrender to his instructions that makes our activity spiritual. Therefore since he was following a bogus persons authority, all his activities either when JPS was present or not present, were useless. On principle, all our activities are supposed to approved and guided by guru, whether he is present or not.  Therefore the conclusion should be that if one is “surrendered” to some rascal, then ALL his activites are useless and that is why Srila Prabhupada tells us that BOTH the bogus guru AND his followers are all going to hell. (see the 4 quotes below)
Prabhupada above tells us that “everything is finished, in the beginning”–
He also says “So if you are offensive, how you can become advanced? That is not possible. 
 
2.Oct 6 1967 letter
Kirtanananda may be eager to address in the Harvard university but recently he has lost his link on account of disobedienceYou sing every day morning that by the mercy of the Spiritual master one can please the Lord and one who has not pleased the spiritual master cannot have any access in the realm of Krishna Consciousness. Very recently Kirtanananda has developed a different consciousness of maya which is called misuse of one’s minute independence offered by Krishna. By misuse of one’s independence one at once becomes a victim of maya and thus he loses all importance in Krishna Consciousness. So it is my definite opinion that his lecture anywhere now will bear no spiritual sequence. He must rectify his mistake before he can play in our Society any important role. By lips he says that he is a surrendered soul but by action he is thinking differently.
 
Comment-here again above Srila Prabhupada is telling us that once one become disobedient– you lose your “link”
And once this link is gone, then anything he or she may do, after this loss, is misuse of independence and useless for any spiritual activity. Seems very clear to me. It is all about obedience-totally, to guru which determines advancement and where we are headed in the near future. Maybe people are confusing improvement of material well being, with spiritual advancement.
Below we have 4 quotes about the destination of one who follows bogus gurus-both guru and disciple go to hell !!
So  if you consider making advancement in “hell”, good, then go for it.

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