Material Designations-as long as we maintain them, we cannot understand Krsna Consciousness

November 15, 2018 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

As long as we maintain our previous material designations we can’t understand  Krsna Consciousness–SP
 
March 10 1972
Prabhupāda: Yes, if we open our heart, then open-heartedly, then it will be nice. No reservation. And that open-heartedness means free from designation. That is open-heartedness. If I think, “Oh, I am American. Why shall I take this Indian philosophy?” Or if I think, “I am Christian. Why shall I take the philosophy of Bhagavad-gītā?” then it will not work. One has to be free from these designations. Then it will be easy. I am… God is God, and I am also part and parcel of God, my relationship with God. So let me understand what is that relationship, what is God, what I am. That freedom, that open-heartedness will make it. But if I try to understand as Christian, as Englishman, as Japanese, as Indian, then it will be difficult. Many of our students joined, even initiated, but they could not make them free from these stereotyped ideasSarvopādhi vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. One must be free from the… Aiye aiye. So let us go.

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Who is Independent? Nobody, but most still think they are—SP

November 15, 2018 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Who is independent? Nobody? Then why are you thinking Independent?–SP
Nellore Jan 3 1976
Prabhupāda: Trivedi, Mr. Trivedi, yes. So, who is independent? This is our question. Who is independent? Do you know any man who is independent or any animal or any…?
Keśavalāl Trivedi: No.
Prabhupāda: So why they are thinking independently?
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Unless we have got the identity, correct identity, we cannot be independent.
..Prabhupāda: [break] So if you are not independent, what is the value of your thinking independently?
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Absolutely none. None.
Prabhupāda: But everyone is thinking independently.
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Yes. That is māyā. That is the māyā, that which is not.
Prabhupāda: They are making plans, theories, “ism.” What is the value of this?
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Absolutely none.
Prabhupāda: Therefore everything is becoming failure. So preach this truth to the world, that “You are all rascals. Why you are thinking independently?” Huh? “Why I am rascal?” “Because you are thinking independently. That is the proof that you are a rascal.” Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānās te ‘pīśa-tantryām uru-dāmni baddhāḥ [SB 7.5.31]. Īśa-tantryām uru-dāmni baddhaḥ. And they are thinking independently.
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Baddha we have got, and still we are thinking…
Prabhupāda: Baddha-jīva, every moment he is under the strict laws of nature. Generally they think that…. They speak also. “I think.” Do they not say? “I think,” as if he is independently thinking. What you can think? Hm? Acyutānanda Mahārāja, why do they say, “I think,” “In my opinion”? What is the value of your opinion?
Harikeśa: Well, I have a certain amount of experience, and with my intelligence and my mind and my scientific method, I can put all that together and come out with some practical solution which I can work on.
Prabhupāda: That you cannot, because you are not independent. Uru-damni baddhaḥ. If you are tied hands and legs with strong rope, how you can think of “I shall become free in this way. I shall become free…?” But your hands and legs are tied up, so why do you think foolishly that you shall become free in this way, you shall become free this way? First of all open this, the tightening knot; then you plan that “I shall become…” But there is no such chance. So what is the value of your thinking like that?
Harikeśa: Well, relatively speaking, it’s better to do…
Prabhupāda: That is another foolishness. Because you are so rascal, you do not know that “I cannot move even an inch and I am making plan.” That is the proof that you are a rascal.
Keśavalāl Trivedi: Tena vina tṛṇam api na calati. That is the way.
Harikeśa: But why are people in the capital…
Prabhupāda: Therefore we call them all rascals. That is our confirmation of our statement. Mūḍhas, you all rascals, without any exception. Hm?
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