How to Act and Who is liberated-​SP

April 28, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Hare Krsna to all


All glories to Srila Prabhupada


Yesterday for our weekly Saturday Feast program, we  looked carefully at the verse in BG 3.9 which states that all work must be done  for Lord Vishnu otherwise all that work is Karma, or binding the soul to the  wheel of birth and death.   Personally I don’t think devotees think enough about the beginning  chapters of BG, which stress how to act in this world, which is the foundation  for how to act eventually upon the spiritual platform. Please consider thoughtfully, these quotes from Srila  Prabhupadas books. Read the rest of this entry →


April 26, 2013 in Hasti Gopala Dasa by Yasoda nandana dasa




Who Is Crazy

NOTE: This booklet is missing the middle sheet (that sheet had pages 19 through 22 on it, Somewhere along the line, over the years, it must have fallen out). So if anyone has a copy of this wonderful booklet please send an email to so we can complete this booklet and make it available to the world.


His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada


Swami A. C. Bhaktivedanta was born Abhay Char an De in Calcutta, India, in 1896. Trained at the finest Indian universities, Read the rest of this entry →

No More Jagai and Madhais after chanting Hare Krsna !

April 26, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa



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Indian man (1): Swamiji, my main question is: although spiritualism is the Absolute Truth, can we not in some way make spiritualism in such a way, modify in such a way, as to help the common people, the masses?
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes, that we are doing.
Indian man (1): They have been steeped in ignorance for such a long time. It will take a long time to bring them into the fold of spiritualism.
Prabhupada: No. It has been made easy by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that “You don’t commit sinful activities and chant Hare Krsna. Chant Hare Krsna and don’t commit sinful life.” That’s all. As sinful life, we have given them: no illicit sex… We don’t say, “No sex.” No illicit sex. No illicit sex, no meat-eating. Suppose… They are not now eating meat. Are they unhealthy? They are known now as “bright-faced.” So no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication and no gambling. This is avoiding sinful life. And chant Hare Krsna. Read the rest of this entry →

Lord Ramchandra Ki Jaya!

April 26, 2013 in Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


LordRamaHare Krsna-pranams

below are some random quotes from SB for Lord Ramchandras appearance day….

SB 9.10.20    The Pastimes of the Supreme Lord, Ramacandr
Angada and the other commanders of the soldiers of Ramacandra faced
the elephants, infantry, horses and chariots of the enemy and hurled
against them big trees, mountain peaks, clubs and arrows. Thus the
soldiers of Lord Ramacandra killed Ravana’s soldiers, who had lost all
good fortune because Ravana had been condemned by the anger of mother


The soldiers Lord Ramacandra recruited in the jungle were all
monkeys and did not have proper equipment with which to fight the
soldiers of Ravana, for Ravana’s soldiers were equipped with weapons
of modern warfare whereas the monkeys could only throw stones,
mountain peaks and trees
. It was only Lord Ramacandra and Laksmana who
shot some arrows. But because the soldiers of Ravana were condemned by
the curse of mother Sita, the monkeys were able to kill them simply by
throwing stones and trees. There are two kinds of strength–daiva and
purusakara. Daiva refers to the strength achieved from the
Transcendence, and purusakara refers to the strength organized by
one’s own intelligence and power. Transcendental power is always

superior to the power of the materialist. Depending on the mercy of
the Supreme Lord, one must fight one’s enemies even though one may not
be equipped with modern weapons. Therefore Krsna instructed Arjuna,
mam anusmara yudhya ca: “Think of Me and fight.” We should fight our
enemy to the best of our ability, but for victory we must depend on
the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.


SB 9.10.22    The Pastimes of the Supreme Lord, Ramacandra


Lord Ramacandra said to Ravana: You are the most abominable of the
man-eaters. Indeed, you are like their stool. You resemble a dog, for
as a dog steals eatables from the kitchen in the absence of the
householder, in My absence you kidnapped My wife, Sitadevi
. Therefore
as Yamaraja punishes sinful men, I shall also punish you. You are most
abominable, sinful and shameless. Today, therefore, I, whose attempt
never fails, shall punish you.


SB 9.10.23    The Pastimes of the Supreme Lord, Ramacandra
After thus rebuking Ravana, Lord Ramacandra fixed an arrow to His
bow, aimed at Ravana, and released the arrow, which pierced Ravana’s
heart like a thunderbolt. Upon seeing this, Ravana’s followers raised
a tumultuous sound, crying, “Alas! Alas! What has happened? What has
happened?” as Ravana, vomiting blood from his ten mouths, fell from
his airplane, just as a pious man falls to earth from the heavenly
planets when the results of his pious activities are exhausted.


SB 9.11.13-14       Lord Ramacandra Rules the World
Satrughna had two sons, named Subahu and Srutasena. When Lord
Bharata went to conquer all directions, He had to kill many millions
of Gandharvas, who are generally pretenders. Taking all their wealth,
He offered it to Lord Ramacandra. Satrughna also killed a Raksasa
named Lavana, who was the son of Madhu Raksasa. Thus He established in
the great forest known as Madhuvana the town known as Mathura

SB 9.11.17          Lord Ramacandra Rules the World      

   The attraction between man and woman, or male and female, always
exists everywhere, making everyone always fearful. Such feelings are
present even among the controllers like Brahma and Lord Siva and is
the cause of fear for them, what to speak of others who are attached
to household life in this material world.




As explained above, when the feelings of love and transcendental
bliss from the spiritual world are pervertedly reflected in this
material world, they are certainly the cause of bondage. As long as
men feel attracted to women in this material world and women feel
attracted to men, the bondage of repeated birth and death will
. But in the spiritual world, where there is no fear of birth
and death, such feelings of separation are the cause of transcendental
bliss. In the absolute reality there are varieties of feeling, but all
of them are of the same quality of transcendental bliss.

SB 9.11.23          Lord Ramacandra Rules the World
O King Pariksit, anyone who aurally receives the narrations
concerning the characteristics of Lord Ramacandra’s pastimes will
ultimately be freed from the disease of envy and thus be liberated
from the bondage of fruitive activities.




Here in this material world, everyone is envious of someone else.
Even in religious life, it is sometimes found that if one devotee has
advanced in spiritual activities, other devotees are envious of him.
Such envious devotees are not completely freed from the bondage of
birth and death. As long as one is not completely free from the cause
of birth and death, one cannot enter the sanatana-dhama or the eternal
pastimes of the Lord
. One becomes envious because of being influenced
by the designations of the body, but the liberated devotee has nothing
to do with the body, and therefore he is completely on the
transcendental platform
. A devotee is never envious of anyone, even
his enemy.
Because the devotee knows that the Lord is his supreme
protector, he thinks, “What harm can the so-called enemy do?” Thus a
devotee is confident about his protection.
The Lord says, ye yatha mam

prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham: “According to the proportion
of one’s surrender unto Me, I respond accordingly
.” A devotee must
therefore be completely free from envy, especially of other devotees.
To envy other devotees is a great offense, a vaisnava-aparadha. A
devotee who constantly engages in hearing and chanting
(sravana-kirtana) is certainly freed from the disease of envy, and
thus he becomes eligible to go back home, back to Godhead.


Two material tendencies-enjoyment and renouncement-SP

April 26, 2013 in Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa




Hare Krsna to all


All glories to Srila Prabhuapda

Below is excerpts from a lecture by Srila Prabhupada where he explains the back and forth oscillations of materialists who try to enjoy and try to renounce-both with futility. Then he gives explanations of real spiritual practices like mind and sense control. Then he concludes with pure devotional service as the only  and final answer.




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The, there are two kinds of tendencies: one is bhoga and one
is tyaga. Bhoga means enjoyment, sense enjoyment, and tyaga means to
give up this material world
. But without guidance, one does not know
how to renounce this material world. That is called tyaga. Bhoga and
tyaga, two kinds of tendencies are going on in this material world
First of all they want to enjoy, and when they are frustrated in
enjoyment, then there is renouncement
. Again when they are tired of
renouncement, again enjoyment
. Read the rest of this entry →

Devotees are protected by Lord from-the very beginning

April 26, 2013 in Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Kirtan pics 031SB 9.4.48 P  The Lord, however, knows how to protect His devotee. As
indicated by the words prag distam, the Lord knew everything. Therefore, before anything happened, He had already arranged for His
cakra to protect Maharaja Ambarisa. This protection is offered to a
devotee even from the very beginning of his devotional service
Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati (▼Bg. 9.31). If one
simply begins devotional service, he is immediately protected by the
Supreme Personality of Godhead.
This is also confirmed in
▼Bhagavad-gita (18.66): aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami.
Protection begins immediately. The Lord is so kind and merciful that He gives the devotee proper guidance and all protection, and thus the
devotee very peacefully makes solid progress in Krsna consciousness without outward disturbances. A serpent may be very angry and ready to
bite, but the furious snake is helpless when faced by a blazing fire
in the forest. Although an enemy of a devotee may be very strong, he
is compared to an angry serpent before the fire of devotional service.



Hare Krsna to all


Glories to Prabhupada

Sometimes we may think that God (Krsna) is not “there” behind the scenes. But the solid realization that He is there comes with active service on His behalf.  We may know of some times when we actually  felt His protection directly, but there are probably many more times when Krsna was protecting us without our even knowing about it.  In this purport Srila Prabhupada explains that even for the most beginner of bhaktas, Krsna is taking charge of that persons life and giving direction and protection to him or her. Even tiny steps towards surrendering to the Lord are noticed, and immediately protection comes with those tiny steps.

This surrendering process to the Lord is the real insurance policy as the karmis will always let you down. If you ever had to make a claim to a so called” insurance company” you will know what I mean. They really dont want to cover your accidents, but only say so in their advertisements , and sometimes you have to hire a lawyer to get them to do what they promised you they would do. But with serving the Lord, their is no such hassles to encounter-Krsna immediately takes charge of His devoted servants and give them all protection. Therefore Krsna Consciousness is the real insurance policy !

Hari bol

Damaghosa das


Saturday Love feast

April 16, 2013 in Kanhaiya Dasa by Yasoda nandana dasa

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Hare Krsna all dear ones,
Please accept my humble obesiances with all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

We had a wonderful feast today – Devotees came from distant places to glorify Srila Prabhupada and Lord Ships. Program started with beautiful Kirtan, Narsimha Prayers, Jai Radha Madhava by HG Damaghosa Das and EXCELLENT Class fro Teaching of Lord Chaitanya…
Followed by nice poem and Gopinath Bhajan by Anu Prabhu…. and last but not least wonderful Feast…(Srikhand On Apple cobbler as desert)…
Here is the video on “Param Karuna Bhajan” – just love this Bhajan…

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Devotees just left 1/2 hour ago and I have already started missing their association….Is something wrong with me???
Hari Bol

Your Humble Servant

-Kanhaiya DasAnudas


He reason ill who tells that Vaisnavas die, When thou art living still in sound!
The Vaisnavas die to live, and living try, To spread the Holy Name around !”

 (Poem by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura)


Ramananda Raya’s conversation with Lord Caitanya

April 16, 2013 in Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa



Ramananda Raya’s conversation with Lord Caitanya

TLC 32                        Conclusion

 Lord Caitanya next asked Ramananda Raya, “What is the most valuable

thing in the world?”

 Ramananda Raya replied that he who has love for

Radha-Krsna possesses the most valuable jewel and the greatest riches.

One who is addicted to material sense gratification or material wealth

is not really considered to be wealthy. When one comes to the

spiritual platform of Krsna consciousness, he can understand that

there are no riches more valuable than love of Radha-Krsna. It is

recorded in Srimad-Bhagavatam that Maharaja Dhruva sought out the

Supreme Lord because he wanted to get some land, but when he finally

saw Krsna, he said, “I am so pleased, I don’t want anything.” In

Bhagavad-gita it is also stated that if one takes shelter of the

Supreme Personality of Godhead or is elevated to the supreme state of

love of Godhead, he has nothing more to aspire to. Although such

devotees can attain whatever they desire from the Lord, they do not

ask anything from Him.


When Lord Caitanya asked Ramananda Raya what is considered to be

the most painful existence,

 Ramananda Raya replied that separation

from a pure devotee constitutes the most painful existence. In other

words, when there is no devotee of the Lord present, there is great

suffering in society, and association with other people becomes

painful. In ▼Srimad-Bhagavatam (3.30.7) it is stated that if one who

is bereft of the association of a pure devotee tries to become happy

through society, friendship and love devoid of Krsna consciousness, he

is to be considered in the most distressed condition. In the Fifth

Canto of Brhad-bhagavatamrta (5.44) it is stated that the association

of a pure devotee is more desirable than life itself and that in

separation from him one cannot even pass a second happily.


Lord Caitanya then asked Ramananda Raya, “Out of many so-called

liberated souls, who is actually liberated?”


Ramananda replied that he who is actually completely saturated with the devotional love for Radha and Krsna is to be considered to be the best of all liberated

persons. It is stated in ▼Srimad-Bhagavatam (6.14.4) that a devotee of

Narayana is so rare that one can only find him out of millions and

millions of people.


   “And out of all songs, what song do you think is the best of all?”

Caitanya Mahaprabhu asked.

And Ramananda replied that any song which

describes the pastimes of Radha and Krsna is the best song. In

conditional life, the soul is captivated by sex. All fictions–dramas

and novels–and material songs describe love between men and women.

Since people are so attracted to this kind of literature, Krsna

appeared in this material world and displayed His transcendental

loving affairs with the gopis. There is an immense literature dealing

with the transactions between the gopis and Krsna, and anyone who

takes shelter of this literature or of the stories about Radha and

Krsna can enjoy actual happiness. In Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.33.36) it

is said that the Lord displayed His pastimes in Vrndavana in order to

reveal His actual life. Any intelligent person who tries to understand

the pastimes of Radha and Krsna is most fortunate. The songs that tell

of those pastimes are the greatest songs in the world.


   Lord Caitanya then inquired: “What is the most profitable thing in

the world, the essence of all auspicious events?”

Ramananda Raya replied that there is nothing as profitable as the association of pure



   “And what do you recommend a person to think of?” Lord Caitanya


Ramananda replied that one should always think of the pastimes

of Krsna. This is Krsna consciousness. Krsna has multiple activities,

and they are described in many Vedic scriptures. One should always

think of those pastimes; that is the best meditation and the highest

ecstasy. In ▼Srimad-Bhagavatam (2.2.36) Sukadeva Gosvami confirms that

one should always think of the Supreme Personality of Godhead–not

only think of Him, but one should also hear and chant His name, fame

and glories.


 “And what is the best type of meditation?” Lord Caitanya inquired.


“He who always meditates on the lotus feet of Radha and Krsna is

the best meditator,” Ramananda Raya answered. This is also confirmed

in ▼Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.2.14): “It is the Supreme Personality of

Godhead alone who is the master of all devotees, whose name one should

always chant and who should always be meditated upon and worshiped



   “Where should a person live, giving up all other pleasures?” Lord

Caitanya next inquired.

Ramananda replied that one should give up all

other pleasures and should live in Vrndavana where Lord Krsna had so

many pastimes. In Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.47.61) Uddhava says that it is

best to live in Vrndavana even if one has to live as a plant or

creeper. It was in Vrndavana that the Supreme Lord lived and it was

there that the gopis worshiped the Supreme Lord, the ultimate goal of

all Vedic knowledge.


“And what is the best subject to hear of?” Caitanya Mahaprabhu next


  “The pastimes of Radha and Krsna,” Ramananda replied. Actually when

the pastimes of Radha and Krsna are heard from the right source, one

at once attains liberation. Unfortunately it sometimes happens that

people do not hear of these pastimes from a person who is a realized

soul. Thus people are sometimes misguided. It is stated in

Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.33.40) that one who hears of the pastimes of

Krsna with the gopis will attain the highest platform of devotional

service and will be freed from the material lust which overwhelms

everyone’s heart in the material world. In other words, by hearing the

pastimes of Radha and Krsna, one can get rid of all material lust. If

one does not become freed from material lust in this way, then he

should not indulge in hearing of the pastimes of Radha and Krsna.

Unless one hears from the right source, he will misinterpret the

pastimes of Radha and Krsna, considering them to be ordinary affairs

between a man and woman. In this way one may be misguided.


   “And who is the most worshipable Deity?” Caitanya Mahaprabhu next


Ramananda Raya immediately replied that the transcendental

couple, Sri Radha and Krsna, is the ultimate object of worship. There

are many worshipable objects–the impersonalists worship the

brahmajyoti, for instance–but by worshiping objects other than Radha

and Krsna, one becomes bereft of life’s symptoms and becomes just like

a tree or other nonmoving entity. Those who worship the so-called void

also attain such results. Those who are after material enjoyment

(bhukti) worship the demigods and achieve their planets and thus enjoy

material happiness.


Lord Caitanya next inquired about those who are

after material happiness and liberation from material bondage. “Where

do they ultimately go?” He asked.


Ramananda Raya replied that ultimately some turn into trees and others attain the heavenly planets where they enjoy material happiness.


Ramananda Raya went on to say that those who have no taste for

Krsna consciousness or spiritual life are just like crows who take

pleasure in eating the bitter nimba fruit. It is the poetic cuckoo

that eats the seeds of the mango. The unfortunate transcendentalists

simply speculate on dry philosophy, whereas the transcendentalists who

are in love with Radha and Krsna enjoy fruit just like the cuckoo.

Thus those who are devotees of Radha and Krsna are most fortunate. The

bitter nimba fruit is not at all eatable; it is simply full of dry

speculation and is only fit for crowlike philosophers. Mango seeds,

however, are very relishable, and those in the devotional service of

Radha and Krsna enjoy them.


   Thus Ramananda Raya and Caitanya Mahaprabhu talked for the entire

night. Sometimes they danced, sometimes sang and sometimes cried.

After passing the night in this way, at dawn Ramananda Raya returned

to his place. The next evening he returned to see Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

After discussing Krsna for some time, Ramananda Raya fell at the feet

of the Lord and said, “My dear Lord, You are so kind to me that You

have told me about the science of Krsna and Radharani and Their loving

affairs, the affairs of the rasa dance and Their pastimes. I never

thought that I should be able to speak on this subject matter. You

have taught me as You formerly taught the Vedas to Brahma.”


   Being very satisfied, Lord Caitanya smiled and showed Ramananda His

real form as the combination of Sri Radha and Krsna. Thus Lord

Caitanya was Sri Krsna Himself with the external features of Srimati

Radharani. His transcendental ability to become two and then to become

one again was revealed to Ramananda Raya. Those who are fortunate

enough to understand Lord Caitanya as well as the Vrndavana pastimes

of Radha and Krsna can be able, by the mercy of Sri Rupa Gosvami, to

know about the real identity of Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu.


Upon seeing this unique feature of Lord Caitanya, Ramananda Raya

fainted and fell on the floor. Lord Caitanya then touched him, and he

came to his senses. Ramananda Raya was then surprised to see Lord

Caitanya again in His mendicant dress. Lord Caitanya embraced and

pacified him and informed him that he was the only one to have seen

this form. “Because you have understood the purpose of My incarnation,

you are privileged to have seen this particular feature of My

personality,” the Lord said. “My dear Ramananda, I am not a different

person with a fair complexion known as Gaurapurusa. I am the selfsame

Krsna the son of Maharaja Nanda, and due to contact with the body of

Srimati Radharani I have now assumed this form. Srimati Radharani does

not touch anyone but Krsna; therefore She has influenced Me with Her

complexion, mind and words. In this way I am just trying to understand

the transcendental flavor of Her relationship with Krsna.”


The fact is that both Krsna and Lord Caitanya are the original

Personality of Godhead. No one should try to eliminate Lord Caitanya

from Sri Krsna. In His form of Sri Krsna, He is the supreme enjoyer,

and in His form of Lord Caitanya, He is the supreme enjoyed. No one

can be more superexcellently attractive than Sri Krsna, and but for

Sri Krsna, no one can enjoy the supreme form of devotion, Srimati

Radharani. But for Sri Krsna, all Visnu forms are lacking this

ability. This is explained in the description of Govinda in

Caitanya-caritamrta. There it is said that Srimati Radharani is the

only personality who can infuse Sri Krsna with transcendental

pleasure. Thus Srimati Radharani is the chief damsel of Vraja in love

with Govinda, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna.


You can understand this yourself and keep it to yourself. From

a materialistic point of view, a devotee becomes mad in his ecstasy of

love for Krsna. Both you and I are just like madmen. So please don’t

disclose these facts to ordinary men. If you do, they will surely

laugh at Me.”


Lord Caitanya then passed ten nights with Ramananda Raya, enjoyed

his company and discussed the pastimes of Krsna and Radha. The

discussions between them were on the highest level of love for Krsna.

Some of these talks are described, but most of them could not be


In Caitanya-caritamrta this has been compared to

metallurgic examination. The metals compared are discussed in the

following sequence: first copper, then bronze, then silver, gold and

at last touchstone. The preliminary discussions between Lord Caitanya

and Ramananda Raya are considered to be like copper, and the higher

discussions are considered to be like gold. The fifth dimension of

their discussions, however, is considered to be like touchstone. If

one is eager to attain the highest understanding, he must begin with

an inquiry into the differences between copper and bronze, then silver

and gold and so on.


footnote–these last statements comparing different metals to sucessively higher understandings

refer to an earlier discussion between Ramananda Raya and Lord Caitanya where

5 basic ideas for Dharma were presented by Ramananda Raya beginning with- how one should

just perform his occupational duty;;next was give up all results to Krsna, then renunciation

without fruitive result; then brahman realization without fruitive work or mental speculation until finally he came to hearing from the lips of a pure devotee-which Lord Caitanya accepted as the 

correct process for this age of Kali, since none of the previous methods are feasible due the implications and impurity of the age and its inhabitants..


Hare Krsna

Damaghosa das


Benefit of Deity worship

April 16, 2013 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


GaurangaAnantaMadhya 13.139 —

Temple Deity worship is realized by the devotees to be the same as direct service to the Lord. The Deity is known as arca-vigraha or arca-avatara, an
incarnation of the Supreme Lord in the form of a material
manifestation (brass, stone or wood). Ultimately there is no
difference between Krsna manifest in matter or Krsna manifest in
spirit because both are His energies. For Krsna, there is no
distinction between matter and spirit. His manifestation in material
form, therefore, is as good as His original form,
sac-cid-ananda-vigraha. A devotee constantly engaged in Deity worship
according to the rules and regulations laid down in the sastras and
given by the spiritual master realizes gradually that he is in direct
contact with the Supreme Personality of Godhead
. Thus he loses all
interest in so-called meditation, yoga practice and mental
speculation.   …….(and everything else)



KARMA – is more than just 5 letters in the alphabet‏

April 16, 2013 in Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Recently a devotee commented to me that he thought why should we have to worry ourselves over fruitive work or anything else for that matter since  , and he quoted Krsna where He says,” I maintain what they have and provide what they lack”  ?? His conclusion being was that we really didn’t have to concern ourselves with
anything else but following the 4 reg’s, chant 16 rounds a day, worship the Deity, and basically try to think as much as possible of Krsna throughout the day. I think this was his understanding of our “basic spiritual obligations”.
This behavior is very good, but this is not  the end of it, and this article will attempt to show why. If I am wrong, then I hope some devotees will correct this misunderstanding for me.
So the main point is this- If we want to go back to Godhead then we must be 100% pure and on the transcendental platform. If we are actually on the transcendental platform, this means every action we perform is for the satisfaction of Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krsna, and then this work is A-karma, or without reaction.
Now consider just this one conversation with Srila Prabhupada where he explains how any devotee who is NOT giving 50% of his income to the Krsna Consciousness Movement , then all that work he does is unauthorized work, or generating karma of some sort. Here it is…
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Devotee (1): No, I know, but for his actions other than just following
the four regulative principles and chanting sixteen rounds. He does so
many other things during the day. Where does he derive his authority
if he’s not, let’s say, living in the temple
Prabhupada: I do not follow. The authority is guru. You have accepted.
Bali Mardana: For everything.
Jayatirtha: Say I have some outside job, I’m living outside, but I’m
not giving 50% of my income. So then that work that I’m doing, is it
actually under the authority of the guru?
Prabhupada: Then you are not following the instruction of guru. That
is plain fact.
Jayatirtha: So that means that whole activity during the day, working,
that means I am not following the instruction of the guru. It’s
unauthorized activity.
Prabhupada: Yes. If you don’t follow the instruction of guru, then you
are fallen down immediately
. That is the way. Otherwise why you sing,
yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado. It is my duty to satisfy guru.
Otherwise I am nowhere.
So if you prefer to be nowhere, then you
disobey as you like. But if you want to be steady in your position,
then you have to follow strictly the instruction of guru.
Devotee (1): We can understand all of your instructions simply by
reading your books.
Prabhupada: Yes. Anyway, follow the instruction. That is required.
Jayatirtha: So the purpose of having the Society is to show the
devotees how they can always be twenty-four hours engaged according to
your instruction.
Prabhupada: Yes, that is helping one another. If I am deficient, by
seeing your example I shall correct myself. This is the idea, not that
a fool’s paradise: all fools and join togethe
r. Not like that.
So from this above example, we can easily see that according to Srila Prabhupada
that we must donate  at least 50% of our income to  some Krsna Conscious activity.
Now that may be well and good for some devotees , like the ones living in the Bangalore
temple, who live there, and do some sort of service all day long, give all the money they collect to the temple, and the temple provides for them, but what about the rest of us who live in this rotten material world and have to “work” for our bread??
I am not crying over spilt milk because of what happened to iskcon, but am only asking the question to all, that how do WE live in this world– transcendentally?
 It is practically impossible for me and I would suspect most if not all others, to give 50% of their income up.
OK some might say, well I have several Deities of Krsna here in our home/ashram and “everything “
we do here is for Their pleasure.
 Being a grhastha, I know this is just not the case. We may say we are doing everything for Krsna, but how many of us engages a “lot of time” in Krsna Seva and maybe a “little time” here and there in some sense gratification which  has nothing at all do with the Service of our Deities or Srila Prabhupada?
So if that is true, then what is the result of those activities? Are they not karma producing?
One time Sruti Kirti told a story when Prabhupada was in the LA Temple.
Prabhupada had his japa beads on his hand, then took the bead bag
and tossed it on his table and said: “there my 16 rounds are finished,
now I can do any damn thing I want.”
First of all in BG, Krsna says-
Bg 7.28 T   Persons who have acted piously in previous lives and in this life,
whose sinful actions are completely eradicated and who are freed from
the duality of delusion, engage themselves in My service with
   Those eligible for elevation to the transcendental position are
mentioned in this verse. For those who are sinful, atheistic, foolish
and deceitful,
it is very difficult to transcend the duality of desire
and hate. Only those who have passed their lives in practicing the
regulative principles of religion, who have acted piously and who have
conquered sinful reactions can accept devotional service and gradually
rise to the pure knowledge of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Then, gradually, they can meditate in trance on the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. That is the process of being situated on the
spiritual platform.
The very next verse in BG states-
Bg 7.29 T     Intelligent persons who are endeavoring for liberation from old age
and death take refuge in Me in devotional service. They are actually
because they entirely know everything about transcendental and
fruitive activities
The above purport states that one has to conquer over both sinful actions and sinful re-actions to become
determined in KC.. This is two different things entirely. The example has been given many times about pulling the plug of a fan (which is symbolically the generation of future karma), and once this plug has
been pulled by our present actions, that means that no future karma is being generated. This
doesn’t mean that we will not experience some residue from past karmic actions. This is what
is meant by  conquering sinful re-actions in this purport. Everyone’s fate or destiny in this present body is fixed , according to sastra, which means some reactions will be coming to us in the future while still in
this body. And being Krsna Conscious means, if we are actually Krsna Conscious, we will be transcendentally situated from them and not be that much, if at all, affected by them.
Another point is that Prabhupada says we have to “gradually rise to the pure knowledge” of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Bhaktivinode Thakur defines pure knowledge as comprising 5 elements,and one of them is knowledge of karma or fruitive activities. This means that before we can actually come to the pure spiritual platform we need to know Krsna tattva, Jiva tattva, Karma tattva, and more.
Earlier on in BG, Krsna states that even the most intelligent persons are bewildered
in understanding what is action(karma) and in- action (non reactive work).
Bg 4.16 T      Even the intelligent are bewildered in determining what is action
and what is inaction. Now I shall explain to you what action is
knowing which you shall be liberated from all sins.
Bg 2.49 T    O Dhananjaya, rid yourself of all fruitive activities by devotional
service, and surrender fully to that consciousness. Those who want to
enjoy the fruits of their work are misers.
Bg 4.17 T     The intricacies of action are very hard to understand. Therefore
one should know properly what action is, what forbidden action is, and
what inaction is.
   If one is serious about liberation from material bondage, one has
to understand the distinctions between action, inaction and
unauthorized actions. One has to apply oneself to such an analysis of
action, reaction and perverted actions because it is a very difficult
subject matter
To understand Krsna consciousness and action according
to the modes, one has to learn one’s relationship with the Supreme;
i.e., one who has learned perfectly knows that every living entity is
the eternal servitor of the Lord and that consequently one has to act
in Krsna consciousness. The entire Bhagavad-gita is directed toward
this conclusion. Any other conclusions, against this consciousness and
its attendant reactions, are vikarmas, or prohibited actions. To
understand all this one has to associate with authorities in Krsna
consciousness and learn the secret from them; this is as good as
learning from the Lord directly. Otherwise, even the most intelligent
person will be bewildered.
Bg 4.14 P  Anyone who is fully conversant
with all the intricacies of this law of karma, or fruitive activities,
does not become affected by the results of his activities
Bg 4.18 P     A person acting in Krsna consciousness is naturally free from the
bonds of karma. His activities are all performed for Krsna; therefore
he does not enjoy or suffer any of the effects of work
. …. Because
everything is done for Krsna, he enjoys only transcendental happiness
in the discharge of this service. Those who are engaged in this
process are known to be without desire for personal sense
Bg 4.20 T   Abandoning all attachment to the results of his activities, ever
satisfied and independent, he performs no fruitive action, although
engaged in all kinds of undertakings.
   This freedom from the bondage of actions is possible only in Krsna
consciousness when one is doing everything for Krsna.
Bg 4.33 P    The purpose of all sacrifices is to arrive at the status of
complete knowledge, then to gain release from material miseries, and,
ultimately, to engage in loving transcendental service to the Supreme
Lord (Krsna consciousness). Nonetheless, there is a mystery about all
these different activities of sacrifice, and one should know this
. Sacrifices sometimes take different forms according to the
particular faith of the performer
. When one’s faith reaches the stage
of transcendental knowledge, the performer of sacrifices should be
considered more advanced than those who simply sacrifice material
possessions without such knowledge, for without attainment of
knowledge, sacrifices remain on the material platform and bestow no
spiritual benefit.
Real knowledge culminates in Krsna consciousness,
the highest stage of transcendental knowledge. Without the elevation
of knowledge, sacrifices are simply material activities
. When,
however, they are elevated to the level of transcendental knowledge,
all such activities enter onto the spiritual platform. Depending on
differences in consciousness, sacrificial activities are sometimes
called karma-kanda, fruitive activities, and sometimes jnana-kanda,
knowledge in the pursuit of truth.
It is better when the end is
Bg 5.2 P    One is considered to be a failure in life as long as he makes no inquiry about his real
identity. As long as he does not know his real identity, he has to
work for fruitive results for sense gratification, and as long as one
is engrossed in the consciousness of sense gratification one has to
transmigrate from one body to another
. Although the mind may be
engrossed in fruitive activities and influenced by ignorance, one must
develop a love for devotional service to Vasudeva. Only then can one
have the opportunity to get out of the bondage of material existence.”
Therefore, jnana (or knowledge that one is not this material body
but spirit soul) is not sufficient for liberation. One has to act in
the status of spirit soul, otherwise there is no escape from material
Bg 5.26 P   In the conditioned soul the desire to enjoy the fruitive results of
work is so deep-rooted that it is very difficult even for the great
sages to control such desires, despite great endeavors.
A devotee of
the Lord, constantly engaged in devotional service in Krsna
consciousness, perfect in self-realization, very quickly attains
liberation in the Supreme. Owing to his complete knowledge in
self-realization, he always remains in trance.
So these verses test our Krsna Consciousness and actual level of understanding.
Prabhupada has several times said that when one joins this movement and gets initiated
he is just like a beginning student who has entered the university. A freshman is hardly the
same as a graduating senior who has passed all his tests. So when one can follow the
basic pre requisites such as 16 rounds a day and the 4 reg’s, that mean he has come to
at least the human platform, and not necessarily the transcendental platform, as some mistakenly are thinking. For example a fully qualified brahmana (kanistha adhikari) is still on the material platform
So my  point is this-If we are actually on the transcendental platform, which means every action we perform is for the satisfaction of Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krsna, then this work is A-karma, or without reaction.
Consider this conversation:                Conversations
Prabhupada: Karma-yogi means one who does everything for Krsna. He’s
Guest (1): One who does everything for…?
Prabhupada: For Krsna.
Guest (1): For Krsna.
Prabhupada: Just like you are doing, doing some work. For whom you are
Guest (1): For my own benefit.
Prabhupada: That’s all. So that is karma. But when you do the same
thing for Krsna, that is karma-yoga.
Prabhupada: That’s all. (break) …done not meant for Krsna, that is
for his own satisfaction. Just like Arjuna wanted to become
nonviolent: “No, no, Krsna. I cannot kill my kinsmen.” That is a good
proposal. But that was his satisfaction.
Guest (1): That is very correct.
Prabhupada: Yes. That was his satisfaction. But Krsna wanted that “You
must fight.” And when he agreed to that, that is his perfection.
Before that, he was trying to satisfy he.
… Whatever you do, that is your satisfaction. That is karma.
Guest (1): But not yogi.
Prabhupada: No, karma. (break) …for your own sense satisfaction,
that is karma. And if you do it for Krsna’s satisfaction, that is
Makhanlal: Pure bhakti and karma-yoga considered to be exactly the
Prabhupada: Exactly the same.
Prabhupada: Pure bhakti is above karma-yoga. Pure bhakti is above
Bhagavata: That is the difference between the Chapter Karma-yoga and
Karma-yoga in Krsna Consciousness.
Prabhupada: Yes. Pure, pure devotion means Sravanam kirtanam.
Makhanlal: …you’re performing, is the vaidhi-bhakti stage of…
Prabhupada: Yes.
Makhanlal: …of the sadhana-bhakti, the regulative principles.
Prabhupada: Yes, vaidhi-bhakti means regulative principles, and when
you are accustomed, automatically you perform, that is raga-bhakti.
Makhanlal: So vaidhi-bhakti is considered superior to karma-yoga then.
Prabhupada: No. Karma-yoga is better
Makhanlal: Karma-yoga is better?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Indian man: Pure bhakti is superior.
Prabhupada: Pure bhakti is sravanam kirtanam. Sravanam kirtanam
visnu-smaranam pada-sevanam, that is pure bhakti.
Yasomatinandana: …formed by anybody.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Yasomatinandana: Karma-yoga.
Prabhupada: Unless one is inclined to take to devotion, it is not
possible to take to karma-yoga. Who can sacrifice the profit
Yasomatinandana: Does karma-yoga mean to follow exactly the sastras?
Prabhupada: Karma-yoga means yat karosi yaj juhosi kurusva tat
Yasomatinandana: Doing only for Krsna.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is karma-yoga.
Devotee: Which means?
Prabhupada: “Whatever you do, the result give Me.”
Devotee: To Krsna.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Yasomatinandana: So we are also, those who are on the vaidhi-bhakti
(indistinct) on karma-yoga path because we are…
Prabhupada: Yes. They are acting under the order of the spiritual
master. That is bhakti-yoga.
Bhagavata: So when one follows the nine activities of devotion purely,
that is pure bhakti.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Bhagavata: Then when he’s following those nine activities, then he’s
Prabhupada: Eh?
Bhagavata: Then that’s superior to karma-yoga, to follow those nine
principles purely.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Makhanlal: Raganuga-bhakti is also superior to karma-yoga then?
Prabhupada: Bhakti is perfect stage. That is not for ordinary man.
Yasomatinandana: What is the difference between karma-yoga and… or
bhakti because they also (indistinct) Krsna?
Prabhupada: Now go on doing your duty, you’ll understand (indistinct).
Don’t try to understand in one day.
Bhagavata: It will be revealed to us as we act.
Prabhupada: Yes, the more you become in service attitude, things will
be revealed to you. (Sanskrit) prakasante. Becomes, it becomes
manifest. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau sam eva sphuraty adhah.
One time Sruti Kirti told a story when Prabhupada was in the LA Temple.
Prabhupada had his japa beads on his hand, then took the bead bag
and tossed it on his table and said: “there my 16 rounds are finished
and I can do any damn thing I want now.”
To me this is a very instructive story because it goes nicely along with the
theme in the above article. If we think just because we may chant 16 rounds
a day, follow the 4 reg’s and get up for montol arotik, we should not think
our “business” is now finished. These things are included in vaidhi bhakti, or the regulative
principles of sadhana bhakti. And Srila Prabhupada mentioned above that karma yoga
was superior to vaidhi bhakti”
Makhanlal: So vaidhi-bhakti is considered superior to karma-yoga then.
Prabhupada: No. Karma-yoga is better
Makhanlal: Karma-yoga is better?
Prabhupada: Yes.
In this part of the conversation Srila Prabhupada is telling us that just
following rules and regulations is good, but actual Karma yoga, where
one does everything for Krsna’s satisfaction is superior to Vaidhi.
And superior to Karma yoga is pure bhakti yoga which is sravanam, kirtanam Vishnu…
or the 9 processes of bhakti.
Somehwere else Prabhupada once said that “anything but the  9 processes
of bhakti is unauthorized mental activity.” To me this means that
the 9 processes of bhakti represent the total 100% pure activity of the soul,
and anything but that is unauthorized activity-or Karma !!
Ok here is another one to consider-
Bg 18.66 P    Conclusion–The Perfection of Renunciation
Now, in summarizing Bhagavad-gita, the Lord says that Arjuna should give up
all the processes that have been explained to him; he should simply
surrender to Krsna. That surrender will save him from all kinds of
sinful reactions
, for the Lord personally promises to protect him.
In the ▼Seventh Chapter it was said that only one who has become
free from all sinful reactions can take to the worship of Lord Krsna.
Thus one may think that unless he is free from all sinful reactions he
cannot take to the surrendering process. To such doubts it is here
said that even if one is not free from all sinful reactions, simply by
the process of surrendering
to Sri Krsna he is automatically freed.
There is no need of strenuous effort to free oneself from sinful
reactions. One should unhesitatingly accept Krsna as the supreme
savior of all living entities. With faith and love, one should
surrender unto Him.
So in the above purport Srila Prabhupada summarizes the entire Bg nicely. One doesn’t
have to worry about anything, sins, sinful reactions, nothing, one only
has to surrender to the Lord.
So HOW does one actually, and exactly surrender to Krsna?
Good question and here is the answer.
Bg 15.5 T   One who is free from illusion, false prestige, and false
, who understands the eternal, who is done with material
and is freed from the duality of happiness and distress, and who
knows how to surrender
unto the Supreme Person, attains to that
eternal kingdom.
   The surrendering process is described here very nicely. The first
qualification is that one should not be deluded by pride. Because the
conditioned soul is puffed up, thinking himself the lord of material
nature, it is very difficult for him to surrender unto the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. One should know by the cultivation of real
knowledge that he is not lord of material nature; the Supreme
Personality of Godhead is the Lord. When one is free from delusion
caused by pride, he can begin the process of surrender.
For one who is
always expecting some honor in this material world, it is not possible
to surrender to the Supreme Person. Pride is due to illusion, for
although one comes here, stays for a brief time and then goes away, he
has the foolish notion that he is the lord of the world. He thus makes
all things complicated, and he is always in trouble. The whole world
moves under this impression. People are considering that the land,
this earth, belongs to human society, and they have divided the land
under the false impression that they are the proprietors. One has to
get out of this false notion that human society is the proprietor of
this world. When one is freed from such a false notion, he becomes
free from all the false associations caused by familial, social and
national affections. These faulty associations bind one to this
material world. After this stage, one has to develop spiritual
knowledge. One has to cultivate knowledge of what is actually his own
and what is actually not his own. And, when one has an understanding
of things as they are, he becomes free from all dual conceptions such
as happiness and distress, pleasure and pain. He becomes full in
knowledge; then it is possible for him to surrender to the Supreme
Personality of Godhead
I just read this in SB class this very morning:
760510SB.HON                   Lectures
The injunction is that tad viddhi, if you want to understand
transcendental subject matter, not material, spiritual… Spiritual is
completely unknown to us
because we do not know what is spiritual. We
are identifying with this body. You do not know even that “I am spirit
soul.” So where is the possibility of spiritual understanding
? One
cannot see himself, what he is. He is thinking, “I am this body,”
exactly like the dog. The dog is thinking, “I am dog.” So if I think,
“I am American,” “I am Indian,” where is the difference? There is no
difference. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. If one thinks that “I
am this body,” then he’s no better than sa eva go-kharah. The animals,
they also think like that, “I am this body.”
Tad viddhi. First of all you try to
learn. Tad viddhi. How to learn? Where to learn? Pranipatena, fully
surrendered. If you find somebody that he is somebody important where
you can surrender fully, from him… Tad viddhi pranipata… This is.
Our process of Vedic knowledge is how to surrender, not that I hear
and I reject it. That is not the way. That is another rascaldom. First
of all find out the person where you can surrender.
   Surrender means you first of all be convinced that “Here is a
person who can give me actual knowledge.” Therefore before selecting
guru one has to convince himself that “The person whom I am going to
accept as guru, whether he actually can give me the knowledge?” That
is wanted.
Therefore before making guru, the system is, for one year
the prospective disciple should hear from the person and then decide.
And similarly, the guru also see a person who is actually submissive
or not. That is Vaisnava injunction, Hari-bhakti-vilasa, not that to
make a guru as a fashion. No. Not do. Don’t keep a guru,
order-supplying guru. No. Just like if somebody keeps a dog and the
master orders him, “Do this,” and he does, fashion. No. It is not
fashion. You must approach guru who…, where you can surrender.
Otherwise don’t make guru.
And the guru also should not accept such
rascal as disciple. First of all the thing is surrender. Tad viddhi
pranipatena. The first necessity is that you surrender. So here you
have seen, Pariksit Maharaja, although the emperor of the world, he is
taking lesson from Sukadeva Gosvami. Sukadeva Gosvami is seated on the
throne and he is seated on the ground, submissive. So does it mean
that “I shall become submissive, and whatever my guru will say, I will
have to accept?” No. Pariprasnena
. Tad viddhi. Here is the pariprasna.
Sri-raja uvaca. Ask him. That is intelligent. Intelligently serve.
First of all we must… It is not that he is checking the guru, “How
my guru is learned?” No. The submission is there. But when the guru
says something, he may not understand. That concession is given,
pariprasna. You inquire.
741117SB.BOM                   Lectures
 This is self-realization. Self-realization means to see one’s proper
. At the present moment we are not finding out our proper
identity. We are seeing to the body. I see you, your body, and you see
me, my body. We have no vision of the real person, which is, who is
occupying this body
. This is the first lesson we get from
Bhagavad-gita: dehino ‘smin yatha dehe. Dehi… This body is called
deha, and the owner of the body is called dehi.
So when we can see that we are not this body, “I am not this body,”
that is beginning of self-realization
. That is called brahma-bhuta
stage. Aham brahmasmi: “I am not this material body.” Aham brahmasmi.
This is self-realization.
We began with what that one devotee thought was surrender-just follow
the 4 reg’s, chant 16 rounds a day, and worship your Deity getting up
for mongol arotik.etc.. This is all very good, but when one studies these books
in a little more detail, one will find that at the end of it all, after the slokas
are read and somewhat understood, then  100% total surrender to the Lord is the final nail in the
coffin of karma . And how to surrender, well Prabhupada gives that explanation in the
above purport to BG 15.5.
Personally I dont know about anybody else, but I consider myself a long long way from
total surrender to Prabhupada and Krsna. The only alternative I see is to continue
chanting dancing and feasting, and hope against hope for the causeless mercy of the Supreme
Lord Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu.!!
One last verse that I just read at breakfast time this morning:
Mundaka Upanishad 3.2.3
“The Supreme Lord is not obtained by means of expert explanations, vast intelligence or even much learning. He is obtained only by one whom He Himself chooses. To such a person, He manifests His own form.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das