Guru-tyaga by the Prabhupada-anugas

December 31, 2012 in Articles by Nityananda Rama dasa


Guru-tyaga by the Prabhupada-anugas.


Srila Prabhupada explains: Who is Bali maharaja?


Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 4: “The Creation of the Fourth Order” : SB 4.24: Chanting the Song Sung by Lord Siva : SB 4.24.51 : PURPORT :

Lord Śiva is one of the twelve great authorities mentioned in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (6.3.20). These authorities are Svayambhū, Nārada, Śambhu, Kumāra, Kapila, Manu, Prahlāda, Janaka, Bhīma, Bali, Vaiyāsaki, or Śukadeva Gosvāmī, and Yamarāja.



Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1:”Creation” : SB 1.12: Birth of Emperor Pariksit : SB 1.12.25 : PURPORT :

Bali Mahārāja: One of the twelve authorities in the devotional service of the Lord. Bali Mahārāja is a great authority in devotional service because he sacrificed everything to please the Lord and relinquished the connection of his so-called spiritual master who obstructed him on the path of risking everything for the service of the Lord. The highest perfection of religious life is to attain to the stage of unqualified devotional service of the Lord without any cause or without being obstructed by any kind of worldly obligation. Bali Mahārāja was determined to give up everything for the satisfaction of the Lord, and he did not care for any obstruction whatsoever. He is the grandson of Prahlāda Mahārāja, another authority in the devotional service of the Lord. Bali Mahārāja and the history of his dealings with Viṣṇu Vāmanadeva are described in the Eighth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (Chapter 11-24).


As a Krpa-siddha by the mercy of Lord Vishnu.


Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 8: “Withdrawal of the Cosmic Creations” : SB 8.20: Bali Maharaja Surrenders the Universe : SB 8.20.3 : PURPORT :

Bali Mahārāja had already been blessed by his grandfather Prahlāda Mahārāja. Therefore, he was a pure devotee, although born in a family of demons. There are two kinds of highly elevated devotees, called sādhana-siddha and kṛpā-siddha. Sādhana-siddha refers to one who has become a devotee by regular execution of the regulative principles mentioned in the śāstras, as ordered and directed by the spiritual master. If one regularly executes such devotional service, he will certainly attain perfection in due course of time. But there are other devotees, who may not have undergone all the required details of devotional service but who, by the special mercy of guru and Kṛṣṇa—the spiritual master and the Supreme Personality of Godhead—have immediately attained the perfection of pure devotional service. Examples of such devotees are the yajña-patnīs, Mahārāja Bali and Śukadeva Gosvāmī. The yajña-patnīs were the wives of ordinary brāhmaṇas engaged in fruitive activities. Although the brāhmaṇas were very learned and advanced in Vedic knowledge, they could not achieve the mercy of Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma, whereas their wives achieved complete perfection in devotional service, despite their being women. Similarly, Vairocani, Bali Mahārāja, received the mercy of Prahlāda Mahārāja, and by Prahlāda Mahārāja’s mercy he also received the mercy of Lord Viṣṇu, who appeared before him as a brahmacārī beggar. Thus Bali Mahārāja became a kpā-siddha because of the special mercy of both guru and Kṛṣṇa. Caitanya Mahāprabhu confirms this favor: guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (Cc. Madhya 19.151). Bali Mahārāja, by the grace of Prahlāda Mahārāja, got the seed of devotional service, and when that seed developed, he achieved the ultimate fruit of that service, namely love of Godhead (premā pum-artho mahān), immediately upon the appearance of Lord Vāmanadeva. Bali Mahārāja regularly maintained devotion for the Lord, and because he was purified, the Lord appeared before him. Because of unalloyed love for the Lord, he then immediately decided, “I shall give this little dwarf brāhmaṇa whatever He asks from me.” This is a sign of love. Thus Bali Mahārāja is understood to be one who received the highest perfection of devotional service by special mercy.



Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 5: “The Creative Impetus” : SB 5.24: The Subterranean Heavenly Planets : SB 5.24.18 : PURPORT :

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described as Uttamaśloka, “He who is worshiped by the best of selected Sanskrit verses,” and His devotees such as Bali Mahārāja are also worshiped by puṇya-śloka, verses that increase one’s piety. Bali Mahārāja offered everything to the Lord—his wealth, his kingdom and even his own body (sarvātma-nivedane bali). The Lord appeared before Bali Mahārāja as a brāhmaṇa beggar, and Bali Mahārāja gave Him everything he had. However, Bali Mahārāja did not become poor; by donating all his possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he became a successful devotee and got everything back again with the blessings of the Lord. Similarly, those who give contributions to expand the activities of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement and to accomplish its objectives will never be losers; they will get their wealth back with the blessings of Lord Kṛṣṇa. On the other side, those who collect contributions on behalf of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness should be very careful not to use even a farthing of the collection for any purpose other than the transcendental loving service of the Lord.


Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 6: “Prescribed Duties for Mankind” : SB 6.3: Yamaraja Instructs His Messengers : SB 6.3 Summary :

Yamarāja continued, “The essence of sanātana-dharma, or eternal religion, is extremely confidential. No one but the Lord Himself can deliver that confidential religious system to human society. It is by the mercy of the Lord that the transcendental system of religion can be understood by His pure devotees, and specifically by the twelve mahājanas—Lord Brahmā, Nārada Muni, Lord Śiva, the Kumāras, Kapila, Manu, Prahlāda, Janaka, Bhīma, Bali, Śukadeva Gosvāmī and me. Other learned scholars, headed by Jaimini, are almost always covered by the illusory energy, and therefore they are more or less attracted by the flowery language of the three Vedas, namely Ṛg, Yajur and Sāma, which are called trayī. Instead of becoming pure devotees, people captivated by the flowery words of these three Vedas are interested in the Vedic ritualistic ceremonies. They cannot understand the glories of chanting the holy name of the Lord. Intelligent persons, however, take to the devotional service of the Lord. When they chant the holy name of the Lord without offenses, they are no longer subject to my rulings. If by chance they commit some sinful act, they are protected by the holy name of the Lord because that is where their interest lies. The four weapons of the Lord, especially the club and the Sudarśana cakra, always protect the devotees. One who chants, hears or remembers the holy name of the Lord without duplicity, or who prays or offers obeisances to the Lord, becomes perfect, whereas even a learned person may be called to hell if he is bereft of devotional service.”


Srila Prabhupada explains how Bali Maharaja attained perfection. .


Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 7: “The Science of God” : SB 7.5: Prahlada Maharaja, the Saintly Son of Hiranyakasipu : SB 7.5.23, SB 7.5.24, SB 7.5.23-24 : PURPORT :

“Parīkṣit Mahārāja attained salvation simply by hearing, and Śukadeva Gosvāmī attained salvation simply by chanting. Prahlāda Mahārāja attained salvation by remembering the Lord. The goddess of fortune, Lakṣmīdevī, attained perfection by worshiping the Lord’s lotus feet. Pṛthu Mahārāja attained salvation by worshiping the Deity of the Lord. Akrūra attained salvation by offering prayers, Hanumān by rendering service, Arjuna by establishing friendship with the Lord, and Bali Mahārāja by offering everything to the service of the Lord.”All these great devotees served the Lord according to a particular process, but every one of them attained salvation and became eligible to return home, back to Godhead


Srila Prabhupada explains under what circumstances Bali Maharaja rejected his so-called guru.


Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 8: “Withdrawal of the Cosmic Creations” : SB 8.20: Bali Maharaja Surrenders the Universe : SB 8.20.1 : PURPORT :

Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura remarks that Bali Mahārāja remained silent at a critical point. How could he disobey the instruction of Śukrācārya, his spiritual master? It is the duty of such a sober personality as Bali Mahārāja to abide by the orders of his spiritual master immediately, as his spiritual master had advised. But Bali Mahārāja also considered that Śukrācārya was no longer to be accepted as a spiritual master, for he had deviated from the duty of a spiritual master. According to śāstra, the duty of the guru is to take the disciple back home, back to Godhead. If he is unable to do so and instead hinders the disciple in going back to Godhead, he should not be a guru. Gurur na sa syāt (Bhāg. 5.5.18). One should not become a guru if he cannot enable his disciple to advance in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. The goal of life is to become a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa so that one may be freed from the bondage of material existence (tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mam eti so ’rjuna [Bg. 4.9]). The spiritual master helps the disciple attain this stage by developing Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Now Śukrācārya has advised Bali Mahārāja to deny the promise to Vāmanadeva. Under the circumstances, therefore, Bali Mahārāja thought that there would be no fault if he disobeyed the order of his spiritual master. He deliberated on this point—should he refuse to accept the advise of his spiritual master, or should he independently do everything to please the Supreme Personality of Godhead? He took some time. Therefore it is said, tūṣṇī bhūtvā kaa rajann uvācāvahito gurum. After deliberating on this point, he decided that Lord Viṣṇu should be pleased in all circumstances, even at the risk of ignoring the guru’s advice to the contrary,.

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What is real and what is bogus initiation​?

December 31, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa




Hare Krsna to  all


Glories to Srila  Prabhupada


Below we have here  more valuable information which confirms the principles of bona fide initiation  vs. non bonafide and the symptoms by which one can judge for  himself.


Srila Bhaktisiddhanta  Maharj writes in the book Brahmana and Vaisnava….


…”If an initiated  person has not undergone the sacred thread ceremony, then according  to the  statement of Brhaspati, a compiler of Dharma sastra, he has simply transgressed  religious principles. The scriptures state that after receiving initiation  one becomes twice born. If this was not so, then it is to be concluded that he  has certainly not been properly initiated. If one is properly  initiated then the results must come. A cause is known by its  effects. If one claims to be a Vaisnava guru while  neglecting the tat tenaiva vinirdiset verse, (“he should be accepted according  to those symptoms of classification” statement of Srimad Bhagavatam 7.11.35),   then he should be rejected. This is the purport of the  scriptures.

One who assumes the  dress and position of  an acarya, who speaks against conclusions of Srimad  Bhagavatam and other scriptures or who performs kirtan opposed to the proper  glorification of Sri Krsna, certainly goes to hell for countless  lifetimes along with his disciples and whoever else  hears such non devotional talks and  kirtans….”


The above reference to  SB is here—SB 7.11.35–  If one shows the symptoms of being  a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya or sudra, as described above, even if he has  appeared in a different class, he should be accepted  according to those symptoms  of classification.


And in Srila  Prabhupadas purport to SB……


SB 8.20.1  Purport          Anyone who is  supposed to be a guru but who goes against the principle of visnu-bhakti  cannot be accepted as guru. If one has falsely accepted such a guru, one  should reject him. Such a guru is described as follows (Mahabharata,  Udyoga 179.25):


guror apy  avaliptasya                           karyakaryam  ajanatah                          utpatha-pratipannasya                           parityago vidhiyate


Srila  Jiva Gosvami has advised that such a useless guru, a family priest acting as  guru, should be given up, and that the proper, bona-fide guru should be  accepted.

Isopanisad  12                                                   The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor detachment from  material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden shackles of  material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised as  religious principles. By a false display of  religious sentiments, they present a show of  devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral  activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and  devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have  no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers  in the strict disciplic succession. They ignore the Vedic  injunction acaryopasana–“One must worship the acarya”–and Krsna’s statement  in the ▼Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam parampara-praptam, “This supreme science of  God is received through the disciplic succession.” Instead, to mislead the  people in general they themselves become so-called acaryas, but they do not  even follow the principles of the acaryas.    These rogues  are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no  religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state.  They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared  in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious  propagandists shall be thrown into the

darkest regions of  hell (Bg. 16.19-20). Sri Isopanisad confirms  that these pseudo religionists are heading toward  the most obnoxious place in the universe after the  completion of their spiritual master business, which they  conduct simply for sense gratification.



SB 1.19.37  P      The Appearance of Sukadeva  Gosvami        Unless one is perfectly  anxious to inquire about the way of perfection, there is no necessity of  approaching a spiritual master. A spiritual master is not a kind of  decoration for a householder. Generally a fashionable materialist  engages a so-called spiritual master without any  profit. The pseudo spiritual master flatters  the so-called disciple, and thereby both the master and  his ward go to hell without a doubt.  Maharaja Pariksit is the right type of disciple because he puts forward  questions vital to the interest of all men, particularly for the dying men.  The question put forward by Maharaja Pariksit is the basic principle of the  complete thesis of Srimad-Bhagavatam.


CONCLUSIONS–So many  come in Kali yuga and claim they are Guru–but the Srimad  Bhagavatam

says one should judge  these persons by their behavior first, then such persons can be  classified as Brahmana, Ksatryia  or whatever, etc. If one sees that a  person who is claiming to be Vaisnava guru doesn’t even chant 16 rounds, the  minimum given by his own Guru, then what kind of guru is he? If this same or  similar person has also been found to be engaged in sinful acts, then how  is he Guru?

Bhaktisiddhanta  Maharaj also states that if one has been considered to be initiated by a bona  fide guru then the symptoms in the disciple should manifest, namely  brahminical behavior.  Effect should follow proper cause. Yet if we  see that so many of the new “disciples’ of this modern age, dont even chant Hare  Krsna mantra, or follow the 4 regulative principles, then this simply means that  person from whom they took “initiation” was not a bona fide guru in the  first place. I read one story of a devotee who sat in on a discussion of  some iskgurus who were saying that practically all of their disciples fall away  in 2-3 years so get as much (money) out of them as soon as you can. This is the  mentality of a family priest not a Vaisnava Acarya.


So after these two  types of cheaters come together for some guru-disciple business, then what  happens?  Sastra states that the bogus guru and the bogus disciple both go  to hell. Not a very pretty picture is it?




750520mw.mel                Conversations                Devotee (3): Srila Prabhupada, if one goes to the temple, if one attends  the temple regularly and inquires from the devotees about the devotional  principles, and because of some reason, it’s not necessarily… it’s not  convenient for him to live in the temple at that time, and he is living with  people… Prabhupada: No, no, you live  in temple or without temple, if you follow the instruction, that is  wanted. If  you live without temple and chant sixteen rounds and observe the regulative  principle, that’s all right. It doesn’t require that you should live in the  temple. And if you live in the temple and do all nonsense, then what is the  use of living in the temple? Devotee: Is it wrong to think of initiation  then? Or initiated also? (?) Prabhupada: Their “thinking” means  they are not fixed up. That very word suggest that they are not fixed up. Oh,  initiation can take place anywhere.


[In the  above convesation we see Srila Prabhupada stressing that initiation can take  place anywhere.

Many  devotees think that initiation has to take place ONLY in a temple with the fire  sacrifice, all your family members,TP, GBC sanction, etc. Yet here Srila  Prabhupada states that initiation can take place  anywhere.

Why is  that?

Because  initiation means it is an affair of the heart when the aspirant decides he or  she wants to be guided by the Param para disciplic sucession as delivered down  thru eternal time. When THAT time comes, THAT moment in time is considered  “initiation”. Then a formal initiation can take place later, even decades later  or  11 years, as was Srila Prabhupada’s personal case.]


761210DB.HYD                    Lectures                   240636/530501     So anyway, from 1922 [when he first met Bhaktisiddhanta  maharaj] to 1933 practically I was not initiated, but I got the  impression of preaching Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s cult. That I was thinking. And that was the initiation by my Guru Maharaja. Then officially I was initiated in  1933 because in 1923 I left Calcutta. I started my business at Allahabad.  So I was always thinking of my Guru Maharaja, that “I met a very nice sadhu.” Although I was doing business I never forgot  him.


[So above  is the proof by Srila Prabhupada himself. He states that he first met Srila  Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj in 1923, at which point he considered himself  “initiated”  even though he waited until 11 years later for the formal initiation, due to  business concerns which took him out of Calcutta and away from Bhaktisiddhanta  Maharaj.]


761016iv.cha                 Conversations                 452898/530501 Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you  initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do  that? Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing  is knowledge. (break)  …knowledge. Initiation is  formality. Just like you go  to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very  important thing….  So our this movement is successful…


[In this  conversation Srila Prabhupada states that  for initiation, the first  thing is knowledge, not the bananna throw into the sacred fire. First we  have to be convinced about what we are hearing and doing, then that conviction  becomes our desire for initiation within the heart by following the  teachings laid down by the acaryas in our sampradaya.]


Hare  Krsna

Damaghosa  das


SB  10.13.54     The visnu-murtis all had  eternal, unlimited forms, full of knowledge and bliss and existing beyond the  influence of time. Their great glory was not even to be  touched by the jnanis engaged in studying the  Upanisads.




    Mere sastra jnana, or knowledge in the Vedas, does not help  anyone understand the personality of Godhead. Only one who is  favored or shown mercy by the Lord can understand  Him. This is also explained  in the Upanisads (Mundaka Upanisad 3.2.3):


                     nayam atma pravacanena  labhyo                       na medhasa na bahuna  srutena                      yam evaisa vrnute tena  labhyas                    tasyaisa atma vivrnute tanum svam


  “The Supreme Lord is not obtained by  expert explanations, by vast intelligence, or even by much hearing. He is  obtained only by one whom He Himself chooses. To such a  person, He manifests His own form.”


Crookednes​s in Devotional Service-by Srila Jiva Goswami

December 28, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Crookedness in  Devotional Service by Srila Jiva  Goswami

— Bhakti-Sandarbha, anucchedas 153 and 154. Adapted from the English  translation of Satya Narayan Das. Jiva Institute.  Vrindavan. 2005. Sanskrit text taken from Gaudiya Grantha  Mandira.

Due to  the presence of many offenses, the Lord does not accept service from the  crooked, even if they offer him many valuable items. This was seen when  Krishna went to the capital of Duryodhan as a messenger on behalf of the  Pandavas. Although Duryodhan tried to win Krishna over with a royal reception  and great opulence, Krishna rejected Duryodhana’s hospitality because of Duryodhana’s  offensive attitude towards Krishna’s devotees. At present, there are many  people who make a show of devotion and who, in spite of having studied the  scriptures, maintain an offensive mentality which causes them to disrespect the  Lord, the spiritual master, and other devotees. The external worship offered by  such persons is nothing but crookedness.

Therefore, sästra describes that even foolish  people who are nonetheless free from crookedness attain perfection even by a  semblance of bhakti, whereas he crooked cannot even practice  bhakti. This is eidenced in a statement by the great sage  Parashar from the Skanda-Puräna: na hy apuëyavatäà loke müòhänäà  kuöilätmanäm bhaktir bhavati govinde kértanaà smaraëaà tathä In this  world, impious, foolish and crooked people do not attain devotion to Lord  Govinda, and they cannot chant about or remember the Lord. In consideration of  this, the Viñëu-dharma states: satyaà çatena vighnänäà sahasreëa tathä  tapaù vighnäyutena govinde nèëäà bhaktir niväryate The attempt of such  crooked people to become truthful is obstructed by a hundred  impediments, whereas their attempts to perform penances is obstructed by a  thousand and their attempts to perform loving devotional service to Lord Govinda  is obstructed by ten thousand impediments. Therefore, Sri Suta-Goswami says  in Srimad Bhägavatam (3.19.36): taà sukhärädhyam åjubhir ananya-çaraëair  nåbhiù kåtajïaù ko na seveta durärädhyam  asädhubhiù

                              What grateful soul is there who would not render loving service to  such a great master as the Personality of Godhead?  The Lord can be easily pleased by spotless devotees who resort exclusively to  him for protection, though the unrighteous man finds it difficult to propitiate  him.

Similarly,  the devotees of the Lord also bless those who are simple-hearted yet ignorant,  but not those who are learned yet crooked, as the sage  Sri Chamas told King Nimi in Çrémad Bhägavatam (11.5.4-5): düre hari-kathäù  kecid düre cäcyuta-kértanäù striyaù çüdrädayaç caiva te ’nukampyä  bhavädåçäm vipro räjanya-vaiçyau vä hareù präptäù padäntikam çrautena  janmanäthäpi muhyanty ämnäya-vädinaù

There are many persons who have little opportunity to  take part in discussions about the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Hari, and  thus it is difficult for them  to  chant his infallible glories. Persons such as women, südras, and other fallen  classes always deserve the mercy of great personalities like yourself. On the  other hand, brahmins, members of the royal order, and vaisyas, even after being  allowed to approach the lotus feet of the Supreme Lord by receiving the second  birth of Vedic initiation, can become bewildered and adopt various  materialistic philosophies. In the first of these two verses, the sage  Chamas declares that out of the various divisions of human beings, those who  are ignorant should be favored by devotees like King Nimi. But by the second  verse, he intends to say that those who are proud of petty knowledge are  incurable and should thus be avoided. ·



And  within Srila Prabhupadas purports there are numerous warnings and teachings

for the  aspiring Transcendentalists of who he or she should and should  not

associate  with. Please consider the following purport and verse….


SB 3.29.17  P  Explanation of Devotional Service by Lord Kapila … Friendship should be cemented between persons  with mutual interests and understanding. Such persons are said to  be sva jati, “of the same caste.” The devotee should avoid a person whose character is not fixed in the standard  understanding; even though he may be a Vaisnava, or a  devotee of Krsna, if his character is not correctly  representative, then he should be avoided. One should steadily control the senses and the mind  and strictly follow the rules and regulations, and he should make  friendship with persons of the same  standard.


SB  1.2.17   Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the  Paramatma [Supersoul] in everyone’s heart and the benefactor of the  truthful devotee, cleanses desire for material enjoyment from the heart  of the devotee who has developed the urge to hear His messages, which are  in themselves virtuous when properly heard and chanted.


Hare  Krsna

Damaghosa das






Prabhupada explain sho​w anyone today can become a disciple of Jesus or Prabhupada

December 25, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below is a very famous and very instructive conversation with Srila  Prabhupada where he explains how any person today can become aChristain or follower of Jesus Christ if he follows his teachings. Jesus  is a pure devotee of Krsna and capable of delivering any soul back to  Godhead-IF he follows his teachings.
Srila Prabhupada explains how one can do this even today, Jesus  Christ being “gone” now for over 2000 years.
So below, in the conversation, I have added in red  letters the name “devotee” instead for the  word Christian and ” Bhagavad gita” for  Bible.The two words, either devotee or Christian are interchangeable and the  same goes for Bhagavad gita and Bible. In this way Srila Prabhupada nicely  explains how anyone today can become a  Christian or Hare Krsna devotee if he follows either Jesus or Srila  Prabhupada-both being physically “gone”. In other words, one does not require  a physically living spiritual master on this planet for one to accept him  and for him to  accept you.
It only requires one must follow either’s teachings.
SB 2.9.8  The potency of transcendental sound is never minimized  because the vibrator is apparently absent. Therefore Srimad-Bhagavatam  or Bhagavad-gita or any revealed scripture in the world is never to  be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental  potency.    One has to receive the transcendental sound from the  right source, accept it as a reality and prosecute the direction without  hesitation. The secret of success is to receive the sound from the right  source of a bona fide spiritual master. Mundane manufactured sound has  no potency, and as such, seemingly transcendental sound received from  an unauthorized person also has no potency. One should  be qualified enough to discern such transcendental potency, and  either by discriminating or by fortunate chance if one is able to receive  the transcendental sound from the bona fide spiritual master, his path  of liberation is guaranteed.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
681002LE.SEA                    Lectures                  Madhudvisa: Is there any way for a  Christian (devotee) to, without the help of a spiritual  master ( Prabhupada ), to reach the spiritual sky  through believing in the words of  Jesus Christ (Prabhupada ) and trying to follow his  teachings? Prabhupada: I don’t follow. Tamala Krsna: Can a Christian (devotee) in this age, without a spiritual  master, but by reading the Bible (Bhagavad  gita) and following  Jesus’s (Prabhupadas  ) words, reach the… Prabhupada: When you read Bible, (Bhagavad gita)  you follow spiritual master.(Prabhupada) How can you say without? As soon as  you read  Bible, (Bhagavad gita) that means  you are following the instruction of  Lord Jesus Christ, (Prabhupada)  that means you are following  spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being without spiritual  master? Madhudvisa: I was referring to a living spiritual  master. Prabhupada: Spiritual master is not the question  of… Spiritual master is eternal. Spiritual master  (Prabhupada)  is eternal. So your question is without  spiritual master. Without spiritual master (Prabhupada) you cannot be, at any stage of your  life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master .  That is a different thing. But you have to accept. As you say that “by  reading  Bible,” (Bhagavad gita) when  you read Bible (Bhagavad gita) that means  you are following the spiritual master (Prabhupada  ) represented by some  priest  or some clergyman (ritvik) in the line of  Lord Jesus Christ.(Prabhupada) So any case, you have to
follow a spiritual master.There cannot be the question without spiritual master. Is that clear? Madhudvisa: I mean like we  couldn’t understand the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita without your help,  without your presentation. Prabhupada: Similarly, you have to understand  Bible (Bhagavad gita) with the help  of the  priest (ritvik)  in the  church. Madhudvisa: Yes. But is he receiving a good interpretation from  his disciplic succession or his bishop? Because there seems to be  some kind of a discrepancy in the interpretation of the Bible.(Bhagavad gita) There’s many different sects  of   Christianity (devotees) that  interpret the  Bible (Bhagavad gita) in  different ways. Prabhupada: Of course, there cannot be any  interpretation in the Bible.(Bhagavad  gita) Then there is no authority of  Bible (Bhagavad gita).  If you interpret something…  Just like “Call a spade a spade.” So if you call something else, that is a  different thing. He’s not spiritual master. Just like this is watch.  Everybody has called it watch, and if I call it spectacle, then what is the  value of my being spiritual master? I’m misleading. (laughter) It is watch,  that I must say. So when there is misinterpretation, he’s not a bona fide  spiritual master. He’s not spiritual master, what is called a bona fide. then  what kind of a spiritual master I am? Reject him immediately. That  intelligence you must have, who is a pseudo spiritual master or real  spiritual master. Otherwise you’ll be cheated. And that is being done.  Everyone is interpreting in his own way. The Bhagavad-gita, there are  thousands of editions, and they have tried to interpret in their own way, all  nonsense. They should be all thrown away. Simply you have to read  Bhagavad-gita as it is. Then you’ll understand. There is no question of  interpretation. Then the authority is gone. As soon as you interpret, then  there is no authority.

Some qualificat​ions of a bona fide spiritual master

December 19, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Hare Krsna to all


All glories to Srila Prabhupada


Because it is Kali yuga, the age of quarrel and  hypocrisy, it is very very easy for one

who desires spiritual life to become cheated. He or she  will be cheated by practically

everyone who poses as a spiritualist. This is not my  opinion, but the words of

Srila Prabhupada, the Acarya or Guru for the worldwide  Hare Krsna Movement.


He often would tell us that if  you don’t know what gold looks like and someone offers you

pyrite (imitation gold)  and wants to sell it to you, then because you don’t actually know  what

real gold is, you will be  cheated. Therefore it is incumbent upon every aspiring spiritualist, to

make him or herself familiar with  the terms of “real gold”. That very valuable information is to follow.


This article is a follow up to the previous one I just  sent out yesterday, entitled “The process of accepting a bona fide  guru”.


Hare Krsna

Damaghosa das



A First class person wants to make his life spiritually  perfect.

A Second class person wants great riches by political or  business means

A Third class person wants riches by industry or  mercantile work

A Fourth class person wants only to fill the  belly.


Some Qualifications of bona fide guru






1)      Above the 4 defects-mistakes, illusion, imperfect senses,  cheating.

2)      When a devotee is perfectly qualified in chanting the Transcendental  vibration of the Holy Names, he is quite fit to become  SM and deliver all the people of the  world. (TLC)

3)      The guru must be situated on the top most platform of devotional service.  There are 3 classes of devotees and the guru must be accepted from the top most  class. When one has attained the top most position of maha bhagavata, he is to  be accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of  Godhead. ONLY such a person is eligible to occupy the post of guru. CC  Mad24.330

4)      Since one cannot visually experience the presence of the supersoul, He  appears before us as a liberated devotee. Such a SM is none other that Krsna  Himself. CC Ant 5.171

5)      When a pure devotee speaks, he speaks perfectly. How is this? His speech  is managed by Krsna Himself within the heart.”

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The process of accepting a bona fide guru-SP

December 19, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below we have summarized a few lectures by Srila Prabhupada where he nicely  explains
who will find a real guru, and how to determine who is a real guru.
He says-
1. accept a guru who is infallible
2.If you dont get a qualified guru, then everything is bogus
3.if you dont find such a guru, that means Krsna is not pleased or your not  serious must be accepted from highest order- paramahamsa
5.who has been cheated by bogus gurus? He says-“Practically everyone”
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
761003SB.VRN                    Lectures                  … Sisyas te ‘ham sadhi mam prapannam: “Now, Krsna, I accept You as my  guru. Not as friend.” Because friendly talking is useless waste of time. He  accepted Him as guru. When guru speaks, you cannot argue. That is not the  process. You should accept a guru who is infallible. Otherwise it  is useless. He accepted guru Krsna because Krsna is infallible. If we accept guru, a bogus guru, then it is no benefit. Guru means  Krsna’s representative. Not that everyone can be  guru.  
720911rc.arl                 Conversations                Prabhupada:  Just like Dhruva Maharaja. He was advised by his mother  that “If you go to the forest you can see God.” So he went there. But when he  was very serious, then Krsna sent him Narada Muni. So if you are actually  serious about Krsna, then Krsna will send you some of His representative and  he will take charge of you. That is the process. If you do not  find a guru, that means Krsna is not yet pleased, either you are not  serious.                  Conversations                Devotee: What determines, Srila Prabhupada, if one is serious or  one is not serious? What makes one… Prabhupada: Well, this seriousness  comes after many, many births. It is also not so easy. Rupa Gosvami says,  tatra laulyam api mulyam ekalam janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate. He wrote a  verse, krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam yadi kuto ‘pi labhyate:  “The krsna-bhakti, Krsna consciousness, this thing, if you can  purchase somewhere, just immediately purchase it.”  Krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita matih kriyatam: “Just purchase.” Yadi kuto ‘pi  labhyate. First of all, if you want to purchase, the things must be  available. Yadi kuto. Therefore kuto ‘pi, “If it is available, immediately  purchase.” Then next question is, “What is the value? What is the price I  have to pay?” Then he said, tatra laulyam ekalam mulyam, “Simply your  serious eagerness to have it. That is the price.” “Oh, that I can have  very easily.” “No.” Janma-koti-sukrtair na labhyate: “That laulyam,  that seriousness, is not obtained after thousands of years’  pious activities.” It is so difficult. Janma-koti-sukrtair na  labhyate. People are acting piously, but that kind of seriousness is  not available even after executing pious activities for thousands  of lives. So that seriousness is also very difficult, to become  very serious that “In this life I shall finish my business and go  home, back to home, back to Godhead.” Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan  mam prapadyate. Krsna says, “After many, many births, when actually  one becomes in knowledge, he surrenders unto Me.”
761101SB.VRN                    Lectures                     So for that there are so many practices, regulative principles, mentioned  here. The first thing is hamse gurau mayi bhaktyanuvrtya. This is  religion. Adau gurvasrayam. If you do not get a  qualified guru, then everything is bogus. If  you, by good fortune, if you get the association of a guru, qualified hamsa,  paramahamsa… Paramahamsa guru means sannyasi’s last stage is  paramahamsa. Kuticaka, bahudaka, parivrajakacarya, and  paramahamsa, these are the different stages.

If you do not get qualified guru, then everything is bogus-SP

December 13, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


761101SB.VRN                    Lectures
So for that there are so many practices, regulative principles, mentioned  here. The first thing is hamse gurau mayi bhaktyanuvrtya. This is  religion. Adau gurvasrayam. If you do not get a  qualified guru, then everything is bogus. If you, by good fortune, if you  get the association of a guru, qualified hamsa, paramahamsa… Paramahamsa guru means sannyasi’s last stage is  paramahamsa. Kuticaka, bahudaka, parivrajakacarya, and  paramahamsa, these are the different stages. When one takes sannyasa, he  lives outside the village in a kuti, in a cottage, and the family members  goes and delivers him the food, because he is not practiced. So in the  beginning, he keeps up this association of neighborhood or family, but he is  not practiced. He therefore lives outside the village, and if somebody gives  some food, he eats.
Then when he becomes experienced, then he does not  accept food from one, either his own home or one home. He takes  foodstuff from many homes: “Give me a little piece of capati.” So somebody gives half, because they are also not overburdened. If they have to  deliver, so many sannyasis come, and sumptuous food, then how the  grhastha will provide? Therefore though… They do not overburden. There may  be other sannyasis, therefore little only. Madhupuri.  The Gosvamis practiced this madhupuri in Vrndavana.

Some Canakya pandit sayings

December 9, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


Canakya Pandit was a great moralist, strategist and Brahmana Vaisnava. He  left behind him some wonderful sayings that we can readily apply to our daily  lives and more so, Srila Prabhupada used to quote him frequently.
So here are just 21, of many, which I am sure most of those who take  the time to read them will gain valuable insight in human nature and be able to  apply these to our daily association with Vaisnavas, and others..
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
1. Separation from chaste wife, insult by ones own kinsmen, an enemy who is  saved in battle, the service of a wicked king, poverty, and the assembly of  egotistical people, burn the body without fire.
2. The duty of a gentleman is that he should give his daughter in marriage  to one who is born in a high family and engage his son in learning higher  knowledge, and inspire his friends for religious and pious activities.
3.The beauty of a cuckoo bird is her sweet voice. likewise the beauty of  a  woman is her chastity, along with her love for her husband. And the  beauty of an ugly person is his knowledge and the beauty of an ascetic is his  power of forgiveness.
4.If by abandoning one person the whole family can be saved, then one must  abandon him gladly. If by abandoning a family the whole village can be saved,  then the family has to be sacrificed. If the district is in danger and by  abandoning one village the district can be saved, then the village must be  sacrificed without hesitation. And for the  welfare of ones self, the  entire world should be abandoned cheerfully.
5.Queen Sita was stolen away due to her extreme beauty. Ravana was banished  due to his extreme vanity. Bali maharaj was tied with a rope due to his being  the extreme donor. Therefore a gentleman should not be an extremist.
6.Just as one single tree with one single blossum perfumes the entire  forest , in the same way one single
devotee born in a family enlightens the entire history the race. And  everyone enjoys the fragrance of his love enlightenment.
7.Nothing can be a burden for a powerful man. No country is far away for a  man of efforts. No country is foreign for an educated person and  no one is  a stranger who has developed the habit of speaking sweet words always.
8.In the country where the foolish people are never respected, where the  grain is stored in full capacity, where the husband and wife do not quarrel,  there take it for granted, the Goddess of Fortune resides.

Vaisnava Behavior In the book Jaiva Dharma by Bhaktivinode Thakur

December 9, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


This book Jaiva Dharma, is in Srila Prabhupada’s  word “very important”. And after reading it now for the second  and third time, I can see why he said this. Since I don’t have it on computer  file I must hand type out every quote you will see here below. But it is so important I am willing to take the time  and do this and share it with others who have  a  similar appreciation for Bhaktivinode Thakur’s works. 


I hope those of  you who take the time to read these statements, will get as much, if not more,  out of it than did I.


Hare Krsna,

Damaghosa das



Chapter 8, Jaiva Dharma-Nitya Dharma and Vaisnava  Behavior-translated by Sarvabhavana das starting at pg. 110


He begins this chapter by quoting Manu samhita 6.92 with  the 10 characteristics of religiosity. Contentment, forgiveness, not  revenging a wrong, self control, remaining in control of the mind in spite of  the presence of allurements, honesty, cleanliness, withdrawing the senses from  sense objects, scriptural knowledge, education, knowledge of the soul,  trutfulness, awareness of reality and freedom from anger, to be not angered when  provoked.

Of these, 6 are characteristics directed to oneself and 4  are obligations to others. However the duty or worshipping the Supreme Lord  Sri Hari is not clearly delineated in any of these 10 characteristics.

Then he quotes SB 2.3.19 which states that “men who are  like dogs, hogs, camels and asses praise those men who never listen to the  transcendental pastimes of  Sri  Krsna, the deliverer from evils.”

This is meant to distinguish ordinary moral persons, who  are on the material level, from Vaisnavas who are not in the material world. A  huge gulf of difference between the two.


Now he begins to make the distinctions between kanistha  (3rd class), madhyama (2nd class) and Uttama  (1st class) devotees.

SB 11.2.47—Arcayam eva haraye, pujam yah sraddhayehate,  na tad bhaktesu canyesu, sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah.

A materialistic devotee does not purposefully study  the sastra and try to understand the actual standard of pure devotional  service. Consequently he does not show proper respect to advanced  devotees. He may however follow the regulative principles he has  learnt from his spiritual master or family tradition and worship the Deity in  the temple. He is to be considered as being on the material platform  although he is trying to advance in devotional service.

Such a person is bhakta praya or bhakta abhasa, a  neophyte devotee for he is but a little enlightened about the Vaisnava  philosophy. One who worships the Deity of the Lord with faith, but neither  respects the created living creatures of the Lord nor worships and serves His  devotees with devotion is a prakrta-bhakta…To worship the Deity of the Lord  with sraddha is certainly bhakti, but without worshipping and serving the  devotee of the Lord, one cannot execute suddha –bhakti. This position of  serving the Lord but not His pure devotee can be described as being at best a  step inside the portals of the realm of bhakti.


Now the Thakur quotes SB 10.84.13—“One who identifies his  self as the inert body composed of mucus bile and air who assumes his wife and  family are permanently his own, who thinks an earthen image of the land of his  birth are worshippable, or who see a place of pilgrimage as merely the water  there, but who never identifies himself with, feels kinship with, worships or  even visits those who are wise in spiritual truth-such a person is no better  than a cow or an ass.”

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Some of the benefits of hearing/reading Bhagavad Gita

December 8, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa


The Glories of Bhagavad Gita
from the Hari-bhakti-viläsa 6.214-228
skände avanté-khaëòe çré-vyäsoktau – gétä sugétä kartavyä kim anyaiù  çästra-vistaraiù yä svayaà padma-näbhasya mukha-padmäd viniùsåtä In the  Skanda-puräëa, Srila Vyasadev says, “Memorize and sing sweetly this  Bhagavad-gétä. What need is there to elaborate on other scriptures? She  has descended directly from the lotus mouth of Lord  Padmanabh.”
sarva-çästra-mayé gétä sarva-deva-mayé yataù sarva-dharma-mayé yasmät  tasmäd etäà samabhyaset The Bhagavad-gétä contains the essence of  all literatures. It is the sum total of all the demigods and the sum total of  all religion. Therefore, one should study the  Bhagavadgétä thoroughly.
çälagräma-çilägre tu gétädhyäyaà paöhet tu yaù manvantara-sahasräëi  vasate brahmaëaù pure
One who recites a chapter from the Bhagavadgétä in front of a  sälagräma-silä resides for a thousand manvantaras in Lord Brahma’s  abode. teneñöaà kratubhiù sarvair dattaà tena gaväyutam gétäm  abhyasyatä nityaà tenäptaà padam avyayam Such a person attains the  result of donating ten thousand cows and the result of conducting  all Vedic sacrifices. Those who constantly study the Bhagavad-gétä attain  to the eternal spiritual world.
gétädhyäyaà paöhed yas tu çlokaà çlokärdham eva vä bhava-päpa-vinirmukto  yäti viñëoù paraà padaà By reading a chapter, a verse or even half a  verse from the Bhagavad-gétä, one is liberated from all sins and attains the topmost destination of Lord Vishnu’s planets.
yo nityaà viçva-rüpäkhyam adhyäyaà paöhati dvijaù vibhütià deva-devasya  tasya puëyaà vadämy aham A brahmin who studies the tenth and  eleventh chapter of the Bhagavad-gétä attains the following result [as  described in the next verse].
vedair adhétair yat puëyaà setihäsaiù purätanaiù çlokenaikena tat puëyaà  labhate nätra saàçayaù äbrahma-stamba-paryantaà jagat-tåptià karoti  saù viçva-rüpaà sadädhyäyaà vibhütià ca paöhet tu yaù By studying  a single verse from these two chapters one attains the same result as  studying all the Vedas
Itihäsas and Puräëas, of which there is no doubt. One who  studies the tenth and eleventh chapters enjoys all pleasures enjoyed by all  living entities — from the ordinary blades of grass up to Lord  Brahma.
ahany ahani yo martyo gétädhyäyaà paöhet tu vai dvätriàçad-aparädhäàs tu  kñamate tasya keçavaù Lord Keshava forgives all thirty-two kinds of  offenses for a mortal who recites a chapter of the  Bhagavad-gétä.
likhitvä vaiñëavänäà ca gétä-çästraà prayacchati dine dine ca yajate  harià cätra na saàçayaù There is no doubt that those who copy and  gift this literature to the devotees of the Lord attain the same result as  worshiping Lord Hari daily.