Reply To Rocana das’s Obnoxious Article

June 10, 2012 in Articles, Devaki nandana Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

Dear Rocana Prabhu (Sampradaya Sun Staff,etc)

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

In your recent article on June 7th 2012 “Hare Krishna Society and the Company They Keep” on you have mentioned some serious inaccuracies and practical vicious lies regarding Jitarati Prabhu’s defense of Sakshi Gopal das’s many blasphemous statements to Srila Prabhupada, Lord Krsna and the Scriptures in his many articles. (For the record, you spelled Jitarati Prabhu’s name incorrectly, it should be Jitarati das, and not Jiterati as you mentioned).

For your kind information, dear Rocana Prabhu, and the protection of your own spiritual life creeper (Bhakti lata bija), in order that you will not keep making so many unnecessary dangerous offences, please understand that the person who is mentioned in the article BIF, Sakshi Gopal das Blaspheme Lord Krishna, Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavad-gita as “Sakshi Gopal’s close associate and chief right(wrong) hand man” is NOT Jitarati Prabhu, but Shyamasundara das, the Australian devotee, first initiated by Uncle Bhavananda, then by UncleJagdish, and now defacto by Sakshi Gopal.

It is Shyamasundara das who has all along been supporting Sakshi Gopal in his direct blasphemy of Srila Prabhupada, Krsna and scriptures like the Bhagavad Gita by Srila Prabhupada and theSrimad Bhagavatam, in his article “Grand Theft Atma” which you can find here and in his website you can find two further articles titled “Elephant In the Room” and “Sex Drugs and Syphillis”

Rocana Prabhu, you yourself are also familiar with the above mentioned blasphemous articles written by Sakshi Gopal, but what you are ignorant of (or at least pretend to be ignorant of ) is that the editing, proof reading, responsibility for publishing, and follow up of responses to these blasphemous articles was all along done by Shyamasundara das who is the right hand man of Sakshi Gopal das, and who unfortunately aided and abetted Sakshi in his many heinous offences against Srila Prabhupada, Krsna and the Sastras.

Thus you, Rocana Prabhu, have knowingly/unknowingly supported these two dangerous blasphemous personalities all along, and to add salt to the injury, you have now falsely implicated an innocent devotee Jitarati Prabhu as being the person who was involved with Sakshi’s blasphemous articles. Again please note for the record and for maintainance of the truth, that Jitarati Prabhu did NOT have anything to do AT ALL with Sakshi Gopal and Shymasundara on these articles. Indeed Jitarati Prabhu had long distanced himself from Sakshi’s and Shyamasundar’s association since around 2007,even from the investigation of the Poison issue (which they had initially worked on together with someother devotees).

Quite the contrary and indeed completely opposite to what you claim about Jitarati Prabhu being involved in Sakshi’s blasphemous articles, it was Jitarati Prabhu, myself and a few other devotees who decided to response to Sakshi Gopal das’s blasphemous articles, and thus we in turn submitted to you the article BIF, Sakshi Gopal das Blaspheme Lord Krishna, Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavad-gita which you published in your website. We had mentioned the authors name in plurals “BY: A GROUP OF SRILA PRABHUPADA DISCIPLES AND FOLLOWERS” because we knew of your constant long allergy to us Rtvik devotees. We felt that if we had put our direct personal names, you would never bother to publish our article, as you had done with so many Rtvik devotees in the past when they submitted you their articles. In any case the article was a combined effort of a few devotees of which myself, and Jitarati Prabhu was a few amongst of, to counteract Sakshi and Shyamasundar’s blasphemy.

This silly and unecessary allergy of yours to us Rtvik devotees regardless ofwhether we are from the West Coast, East Coast, North Coast, South Coast, or from any part of the world should be completely given up by your good self, as it is only back firing on you. This is evidenced, because you have put your foot in your mouth by making these false and silly statements in public that Jitarati Prabhu was involved with Saksi’s blasphemous articles on Srila Prabhupada and Krsna. You have been caught red-handed with your hands stuck viciously in the cookie jar. Anyone who knows Jitarati Prabhu personally can see clearly what a total fool you have made of yourself, along of course with your foolishly concocted ‘Sampradaya Acarya ‘ philosophy which you have been preaching for so many years to so many devotees, but which till this day, only you can understand.

Indeed Rocana Prabhu , your pattern since these many years has always been to jump and seize on the slightest opportunity that you can get to put down the Rtvik devotees. This fact is shown in your latest article where you not only find fault with Jitarati Prabhu, but also Yasoda nandana Prabhu, Puranjana Prabhu, other West Coast Rtviks, and Madhu Pandit Prabhu in India who has accomplished so much in the field of preaching Srila Prabhupad’s teachings. Indeed these accomplishments would take you a few million lifetimes just to comphrehend. This is because you always fear and see these Rtvik devotees as a threat to your bogus ‘Sampradaya Acarya’ philosophy which again, only you can understand, or to be fair to you, one more person can understand, namely the alien PhantomGuru hiding in the alien ship patiently waiting one day to be anointed by you to save Iskcon and destroy the Rtviks. Please see below this letter to you the actual proof for yoursatisfaction to understand that it was actually Shymasundara das who is Sakshi Gopal’s right hand man by reading his e mail sent to me on Nov 17th 2011. This wasin response to my initial e mail to him and concern about Sakshi’s first blasphemous article “Grand Theft Atma”. Anyone can see how foolishly enthusiastic Shyamasundara is in his defense of Sakshi. My second e mail which is much longer is also available below the first one and where you will find myself chastising Shyamasundara das for his crazy comments and defence of Sakshi Gopal’s blasphemy.

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June 10, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

After the recent flurry of offenses cast by certain “devotees” against Yasoda nandan, Puranjana, Krsnacandra, and many others aligned with the Prabhupadanugas , I felt, while I was taking lunch prasadam today, that a short, but specific letter was in order to try and help those who seem to relish finding fault– where there is no fault.
Basically the problem, if you want to call it that, is this– some people who like to think of themselves as Vaisnavas, but who are far from that standard, continually thru the internet spread malicious lies about the above devotees. They think for some twisted reasons that one Srila Prabhupada disciple named Tattva Darshan who successfully founded and maintains the Bhaktivedanta Eco Village (BEV) in Karnataka India over 20 years ago- is a child molester. And they further think that the above named other devotees are of the same mentality since they and myself are giving him (Tattva) spiritual backing in his attempt to reform and continue to render service to Srila Prabhupada.
For those of you who love to hear this kind of smut, I will tell you the real story.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED– In Cambodia everyone knows there is a lively sex trade going on.
Tattva darshan (from BEV) used to go there and other places to collect money for his project back in India. (He personally told me that he has spent around a million collected dollars thru very hard work on this Varnashram project)
Somehow or other, he got involved in some sexual affair with a young woman, not a child mind you, and was caught in a sting operation by the local police. He went to jail for around two years and was eventually released. There never was any child sex going on, as was falsely reported by some agencies, it was simply a sexually agitated man who wanted some sex while he was far away from home. He is not a guru,or a sannyasi or anybody posing to be some renunciate. He is a very hard working married man with a wonderful family and a very understanding wife.
That is what happened. However these certain “devotees” seem to think that Tattva Darshan was some kind of pervert looking only for small girls for sex. This is totally wrong and false. The Hare Krsna Society let me say here, does not condone this kind of activity but when it does happen (regular prostitution amongst adults) then devotees who are mature should see if as it is. A temporary falldown which should be excused-especially in light of all the tremendous devotional work Tattva darshan has done in a very difficult country, foreign to natural birth.
At this point let me ask our readers this-
Have you ever committed any sinful acts? NO?
Then you shouldn’t even be reading this.
If you have done any sinful things, then you should understand and know that if God Himself forgives you for such things, then why would or could any ordinary mortal find fault with you? The answer is simply– envy.That’s all. (See full philosophical explanation by Visvanatha Chakravarti at the end)

What is the Hare Krishna Society?

June 10, 2012 in Articles, Narasimha Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

What is the Hare Krishna Society?

In the early days of Srila Prabhupada’s mission in the West, some ISKCON leaders wanted to install teletype machines in all the temples, but Srila Prabhupada did not approve of the idea. He expressed concern that his neophyte students would use the machines for politics and gossip and thus waste time.

”…The installing of telex communications for our main temples is not required. Then they will gossip more through the telex….” Srila Prabhupada letter, February 5, 1977

Today it is practically seen that many ignorant persons posing as preachers hide behind their computer screens and spread unfounded allegations against devotees or try to raise doubts about the activities and purposes of bona fide sangas of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples. Those with a political agenda, and other ignorant or malicious persons, sometimes spread false allegations about Srila Prabhupada’s faithful disciples and thus commit the offense know as sadhu-ninda. Sadhu-ninda can quickly ruin one’s forward progress in devotional service.  By hearing malicious rumors about disciples of Srila Prabhupada and by accepting and tolerating such nonsense without challenge or protest, internet surfers and sufferers may disrupt their forward progress on the path of bhakti-yoga.

“…Anyone who is a bona fide preacher of the cult of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu must be respectful to the real devotees of Lord Caitanya; one should not be envious, considering one preacher to be very great and another to be very lowly. This is a material distinction and has no place on the platform of spiritual activities…”

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – 1975 Edition  Adi 10.7 :

“… If a Vaiṣṇava, by the mercy of the Lord, is empowered by Him to distribute the Lord’s holy name all over the world, other Vaiṣṇavas become very joyful-that is, if they are truly Vaiṣṇavas. One who is envious of the success of a Vaiṣṇava is certainly not a Vaiṣṇava himself, but an ordinary mundane man. Envy and jealousy are manifested by mundane people, not by Vaiṣṇavas. Why should a Vaiṣṇava be envious of another Vaiṣṇava who is successful in spreading the holy name of the Lord? An actual Vaiṣṇava is very pleased to accept another Vaiṣṇava who is bestowing the Lord’s mercy. A mundane person in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava should not be respected but rejected. This is enjoined in the śāstra (upekṣā). The word upekṣā means neglect. One should neglect an envious person. A preacher’s duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaiṣṇavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaiṣṇavas in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. There is no need to serve a jealous person who is in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava. When Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava sevā nistāra payeche kebā, he is indicating an actual Vaiṣṇava, not an envious or jealous person in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava…”

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – Madhya-lila 1.218

Over the years, a few antagonistic persons have tried to malign the Hare Krishna Society for ridiculous and selfish reasons. Some persons have apparently felt slighted by HKS because of our strict policy to ignore the various vitiated “iskcon” groups, the various members associated with these groups, senior devotees who are still confused about Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, and other misguided persons associated with various other groups, such as branches of the former Gaudiya matha. (See references below.)

We also tend to avoid persons who are obsessed with the idea of trying to reform corporate iskcon’s clerics. We also avoid those who want to advertise and exaggerate the alleged faults of specific devotees, particularly those who are unpretentious preachers who know the siddhanta.  Because we refrain from involvement in drawn out, rambling discussions on the internet with persons who are misguided or antagonistic, some devotees feel slighted. (See references below.) We feel the best way to deal with various misguided persons is to teach the truth about Srila Prabhupada and His instructions. If we attack something, we attack the sin and the sinful idea rather than all the individual sinners. We generally avoid discussing individuals—unless we are forced to do so. We have enough to do to explain the fundamentals of Krishna consciousness to innocent devotees who have been misled by bogus preachers.

“…If one hears the activities of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu with this faith, he can be freed from his envious position. Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is meant for such nonenvious persons (nirmatsarāṇāṁ satām)….”

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta  Madhya-lila 9.362 :

Our positive agenda is to preach the glories of Lord Caitanya, Srila Prabhupada and the bona fide parampara. In the course of preaching correctly about the mission and teachings of the Krishna consciousness movement all opposing elements are defeated naturally.  It is not HKS policy to attack and expose individual leaders for their sinful secret lives and extravagance. This is not practical.  Nor is it advised in shastra to chase after and try to reform unrepentant deviants. We naturally expose obvious deviations in siddhanta and sadhana by preaching the truth. (See references below.)

HKS generally avoids direct confrontation with the fallen branches of iskcon.  Some persons criticize us for 1) not attacking iskcon, 2) attacking iskcon,  3) not being under a gbc,  4) not supporting devotees who attack iskcon leaders, 5) supporting those who attack Iskcon leaders, 6) creating an organization separate from iskcon, and so on. (See references.)

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