The weather gets better by chanting Hare Krsna

June 25, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below is a short conversation with Srila Prabhupada about rain, food, and  chanting.
He says the karmis (and we see that today even the devotees) dont like  the idea of producing their own food.
He calls it “their disease”. He then talks about the former great Roman  empire which was started
with so much hard labor and today all that is left is some piled up bricks.  Where are the people today
that built this “empire”? Nobody knows, and what benefit do they get today  from all that hard labor?
Its all karma bandana-work which binds one to samsara, the wheel of birth  and death.
Probably the most interesting point is how the weather in New  Vrndavana had gotten better there because
of so many devotees all chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Then Srila  Prabhupada says yes, and he wants to buy land in Mayapur and Vrndavan for  becoming self sufficient.
So there it is folks–
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
740525mw.rom                 Conversations
 Prabhupada:  Yajna means to satisfy the Supreme Lord. That is yajna. So in the Kali-yuga  the yajna is made very easy. Chant Hare Krsna. So anywhere you go, chant  Hare Krsna, and see that there will be clouds, there will be rainfall, and  just work little, you get your foodgrains, and chant Hare  Krsna.
Yogesvara: They won’t like that  idea.
 Prabhupada: That means their… That is their  disease. The same thing, that “Why you are sitting here? Come with  me, work.” “What shall I do by working?” “You get money.” “Then you’ll  enjoy.” “And I am already enjoying.” That the… This is called maya.  Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan. These rascals, simply for little  temporary so-called benefit, they have created this working civilization,  “Work very hard, very hard.” That’s all. Whole history… In this Rome  city you can see. There are evidences. These buildings are constructed  with hard labor. Now those rascals have gone, and they are  maintaining, that “They worked so hard.” Those who worked very hard  they have gone away. Now nobody knows where they are and what they have  become. But they are maintaining their bricks. That’s all. Brick  civilization. (break)
Devotee: Why is it that the rains come in certain parts of the  world and in other parts people do not have enough?
Prabhupada: No, no  part of the world is nowadays sufficient rain. Because they are not  performing yajna. Sometimes it is seen that over-rain, overflood, not  systematic. But if you perform yajna, there will be systematic rainfall,  which you can utilize properly. Yajnad bhavati  parjanyah.
Devotee: Kirtanananda Swami says that in New Vrindaban the weather  is changing every year. It is getting nicer there. Much more sun and  the winter is not so hard.
Atreya Rsi: In New Vrindaban it’s getting better.
Prabhupada: Yes. Because there are so many devotees. The people  are still being maintained on account of our chanting Hare Krsna  mantra.
Devotee: By the grace of pure devotee.
Prabhupada: Yes.  (break) …encouraging in our society to take to agriculture to support this  center. I am purchasing land in Vrndavana and Mayapura to become  self-sufficient. Whatever production you make, you be satisfied.  Little vegetable, little grain and little milk. That is sufficient.

“You cannot eat anything , even grass without the sanction of God”—SP

June 23, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below is a very interesting conversation wherein Srila Prabhupada explains  the difficult
situation all kali yuga inhabitants find themselves.
Machines and so called “easy living” vs. working hard in a rural  setting and producing your own food. The first is easier for that kind  of work only requires one sit at a desk for many, and push some buttons/shuffle  some papers-not very physically taxing. But as we see from that kind of inactive  sedentary lifestyle all kinds of very serious health and mental problems  ensue.  On the other hand, when one operates his or her body in a moving  physically active way, that is the way God intended us to live-by working hard  to produce our necessities. And tremendous health and mental benefits  come  from this type of satisfying work which one does not get by pushing  buttons.
And finally just to be fair, Srila Prabhupada points out that to stop ones  kind of city occupation in this age and go live in the country is almost  impossible to do  So he recommends that one keep his job, but add the  chanting of Hare Krsna maha mantra to that work. And if one does this, he will  get purified of so many anarthas, or unwanted things in his heart. So much so  that he may even want to give up city living and the fat pay check and simply go  and live more simply so that his pursuit of God consciousness is made easier by  living in the mode of goodness instead of the mode of passion and  ignorance.
Hari bol,
Damaghosa das
740524r2.rome                 Conversations                Richard Webster: What civilization there is comes chiefly from  the television, I’m afraid. I mean the public opinion is made by  the television. Atreya Rsi: The television today is setting up the  standard for the civilization, for today’s civilization. Richard Webster:  But they talk about nothing but name war (?) and… Prabhupada: (indistinct)  pictures. Richard Webster: It’s much easier. They’re producing more  television sets (indistinct) Yogesvara: It’s a great science. My mother  is an executive in a public relations firm. Her business is to show products,  goods, to people that otherwise they have no need for and to convince them  that there is some value. It’s a very big industry, especially in the  United States, public relations, advertising. It’s very psychological  too. They use all kinds of psychological techniques for inducing people  to take things they have no need for. Prabhupada: All right  but thing is that after all our prime necessity is food. So why people  are not engaged to produce food? Richard Webster: Well, in Italy  they don’t like to work on the land any more. They all want to live in  town.

Prabhupada tells a cartoon story

June 22, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

740524r2.rom                 Conversations                Prabhupada: There was a cartoon. When I… One leader is  approached for food, that “We are in scarcity of food.” The leader says,  “Of course, it is very difficult to assure you for food grains. But  from next week you will have television.” (laughter) Next week you will have television. So these improvements are going on,  television, but they are starving. This is going on. Advancement of knowledge  and learning is going on in discovering television, but there is no  food. This is the mismanagement of the leaders. Dishonest.  There is enough food. Punjab still produces food grains. Bengal still  produces rice, but they are stocked by government men, and they are mishandling. They are lying on the station for dispatch, but they will not  be dispatched. They are rotting. Rainy season spoiled the whole  stock; still, they are not dispatched. Official: “There is no dispatch  order. There is no wagons available.” Simply mismanagement or bribe. This  is going on. And people are suffering.
…Somebody approached some politician, and he said, “Yes, I know there is food problem. So I cannot say what can I do for you, but  from next week, you will have television.” This is their program, “From  next week you will have television.” As if television will minimize  my hunger. This is the civilization. Hare Krsna. So you ask problem,  I will answer. Your energy, problems of energy, petrol, it will  be automatically solved. If we are localized, there is no question  of petrol.
Hare Krsna to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
The above tells the story of kali yuga-because we are so “machine oriented”  practically everyone is forgetting the basic necessities of life-like FOOD  !!
I just read today an article about a study asking people how they would  value losing their cell phones.
The reply was that most of them would rather not have sex than lose their  cell phones. Others replied they would rather lose their wedding rings or wallet  than their cell phones.
This is how attachment works.

Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: III

June 22, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

681110SB.LA                    Lectures

Similarly, the scriptures, the sages, the saintly persons, the

devotees, the representative of Krsna, God, they’re very much anxious

to take us back to Godhead, back to home. That is nihsreyasaya. That

is the ultimate benediction. To be  enamored by the

temporary society, friendship and love. And it has become a thankless

task for the saintly persons, devotees of God, to drag them: “Oh,

please come here. Please chant Hare Krsna. Please be Krsna conscious.

Please be God conscious.” Nobody likes it. They think it botheration,

“Why Swamiji comes here and bothers us?” But it has become the

business. Therefore the qualification of a saintly person is

titiksava, very tolerant, very tolerant. Just like Lord Jesus Christ,

he was crucified. Still, he was so tolerant he, at the time of

crucification, he’s praying to God, “My Lord, these people do not know

what they are doing. Please forgive them.” Just see how much tolerant.

Titiksava. This is the first qualification of saintly person or God’s

servant or God’s son. Very tolerant. They have to push on their Krsna

conscious movement or God conscious movement through so many odds.

Through so many odds. Because they are just like the child; he’s

attracted with playthings.


741114SB.BOM                   Lectures

This is the statement of sastra, that with our these blunt material

senses it is not possible to appreciate or to understand

sri-krsna-namadi, Krsna, His name, His form, His quality, His

pastimes, His paraphernalia, His abode, so many things. Krsna is not

alone, but Krsna begins from the name. Then there is form. Generally,

for the beginners, neophytes, these two things are essential: to hear

the name, to hear the qualities, and see the form of the Lord, to

offer worship. That is the instruction of Krsna personally. Man-mana

bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru.


741114SB.BOM                   Lectures

It is no longer possible to revive the perfect system, varnasrama.

Although we are trying to revive, it is not possible. It is very

difficult. People are so fallen. Mandah sumanda-matayo manda-bhagya hy

upadrutah. They are so disturbed, manda-bhagyah, unfortunate, and

upadrutah, always disturbed. Especially anavrsti, durbhiksa and

kara-pidita. The people of the Kali-yuga will be very much, I mean to

say, harassed by these three things. There will be no rainfall, and…

There will be no rainfall, and there, food scarcity and taxation by

government, income tax. Income tax is to plunder. If you have got some

money, this is the means. So this is all stated in the

Srimad-Bhagavatam. ..Recently we have seen one big industrialist, he has committed

suicide. So people will do that. They’ll be so much harassed. This is



741114SB.BOM                   Lectures

all sinful reaction of life. So you may say that “It will take some

time. If I have to get free from sinful reaction, then I’ll have to

take some time.” Krsna says, “No, no time. Immediately.

“I will immediately do that. You just do this business. Surrender unto

Me, and I take guarantee.” Then your life begins.


■TLK Vs 17    Self-realization means seeing one’s proper identity as the

infinitesimal jiva. At the present moment, we are seeing the body, but

this is not our proper identity. We have no vision of the real person

occupying the body. The first lesson we receive from ▼Bhagavad-gita

(2.13) informs us that the body and the owner of the body are

different. When we can understand that we are not the body, that is

the beginning of self-realization, and that is called the brahma-bhuta

stage. Aham brahmasmi. I am not this material body, but spirit soul.


741118SB.BOM                   Lectures

it is diseased condition. Similarly, when we are unable to serve

Krsna, or we do not serve Krsna, we serve… Serving we are. That is a

fact. We cannot become master. Nobody… Can anyone say that he is

master? He’s not serving anyone? Everyone is serving. That’s a fact.

Either you are serving your family or society or country or office or

so many service. If anyone hasn’t got to serve anything, then he picks

up a master, a cat and dog, and serves him. Because service is my

nature. But we are missing where to put the service. That is Krsna.


741119SB.BOM                   Lectures

Bhakti means spiritual activities. There is activity… It is

not… The Mayavadi philosophers, they think that “Stop material

activities.” Brahma satyam jagan mithya. “Why you are engaged…” The

Buddhist philosophy also, they say nirvana, “Stop this material life.”

The Buddhist philosophers, they do not give more information. “We are

suffering on account of this material combination.” That is their

philosophy. Because this body is nothing but combination of earth,

water, fire, air, mind, intelligence and ego, so if you separate it,

let the earth go to the earth, let water go to the water, let fire go

to the fire, then you become zero. If you dismantle just like we

dismantle some house, so there are so many things coming out. So let

the doors be taken, somebody windows, somebody the bricks, somebody

and…, rubbish somebody. Then there is no house, zero. This is called

nirvana theory. No more existence. We are suffering pains and

pleasure… Pains. There is no pleasure. Pleasure means accepting

another type of pain. I am suffering… Just like there is boil on

your body. This is suffering. And to cure it, another suffering,

surgical operation. So it is going on like that. Actually, there is no

pleasure. There is only pain.

   So the Buddhist theory is to dismantle this construction, and then

there is no more sense of pains and… The Mayavadi theory also like

that, that “Activities, because they are material activities,

therefore there are sufferings. So the material activities, they are

false. You simply understand yourself, that you are Brahman, and no

more activities, stop all activities, Brahman realization…” Their

example is given that if you take an empty pitcher and you put into

the water, so long it is not filled up, there will be some sound:

“bud-bud-bud-bud-bud-bud.” And as soon as the pitcher is fully filled

up, there is no, no more sound. So all these Vedic mantras and

other…, they’re only means. So when one is completely Brahman

realized, then there is no more chanting, hearing or Vedic hymns.

Everything stop. The same theory. Buddhist theory and Mayavada theory

is almost practically the same. They are saying, “Make it zero,” and

they are saying, “It is mithya, false. Stop it.” Brahma satyam, brahma

satyam jagan… Brahma satya means Brahman realization, “I am Brahman.

I am the same Supreme… So ‘ham.” But that will not help you. That is

simply theoretical. Practical is bhaktya bhagavaty akhilatmani.


741120SB.BOM                   Lectures

So if we actually want to be free from the bondage of material

existence… Bhutva bhutva praliyate… A common sense. Because we

have lost our common sense. Suppose we are sitting here. If somebody

says, “Now get out! Sit down he… Sit down here.” And again, a half

an hour, if he says, “No, no, come here.” So shall I like it? “No, I

am not sitting here. I’ll go.” Similarly, here the life is, the

materialistic way of life means bhutva bhutva praliyate. You accept

one body, you’ll not be allowed to remain in that body permanently.

You must have to give it up. Again accept another body. Again you have

to give it up. What is this business? But they are so rascal, they do

not know that how much miserable condition we are in. We are simply

accepting one body and again… Bhutva bhutva praliyate. Tyaktva

deham. We are… We do not know that “I am not this body.”

   So we are in such darkness, and the whole world is in such

darkness. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri… They are taking this body as

themselves. There are so many things… So Krsna consciousness

movement will give them enlightenment and give them liberation, and we

therefore request everyone to take advantage. Now, Krsna consciousness

means… The simple thing is that you chant Hare Krsna. But if you

think yourself as very learned, thoughtful man, and you want to

understand through science and philosophy, all right, come on. We have

got books. Learn it. Two ways. We have got three dozen books like

(sic:) you. You cannot finish it even in your whole life. Come on.

Otherwise, if you are not so learned to read all these books, chant

Hare Krsna. Two things are there. Take advantage, any one of them, and

be liberated.

Thank you very much. (end)


741122SB.BOM                   Lectures

.. Therefore Bhagavad-gita is the

preliminary study of spiritual life. If you can understand

Bhagavad-gita, then you can begin Srimad-Bhagavatam. If you have not

understood Bhagavad-gita, it is useless. You cannot understand


Just like Bhagavad-gita ends with the assertion of the Lord:

sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. Sarva-dharman. We

have created so many dharmas. But dharma cannot be so many. Dharma is

one. Or religious system… What is that, religious system? The all

religious system, the author of religion, author of religion… Just

like author of law is government, similarly author of religion is God,

Krsna. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam. You cannot manufacture

dharma, just like you cannot manufacture law at your home. That will

be not feasible. That will be not useful for anyone. You can make

thousands of laws: “I think this should be done…” That is the

fashion now. Everyone thinks in his own way. That is not philosophy.

That is not law: “I think…” “We think…” No. You cannot think. What

is your value? You are imperfect. Your senses are imperfect. How you

can think perfect things? No, that is not possible. Therefore we have

to…You have to take knowledge from the tattva-darsi, one who has seen the

truth. Otherwise, you’ll be frustrated. Similarly religion. Religion

you cannot manufacture: “This is our religion. This is this religion,

that religion, that religion.” So that is not religion. Religion is

this: sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. Mayy ananyena

bhavena bhaktim. This is religion. Anything else, that is cheating.

That is not religion.

Therefore if one can understand Bhagavad-gita perfectly and he

takes to this system of religion, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam

saranam vraja, then he can understand Srimad-Bhagavatam. Because where

Bhagavad-gita is ended, Srimad-Bhagavatam begins from that point.


741122SB.BOM                   Lectures

.. Just like in Bengal, C.R.Das, he had fifty thousand rupees’

income in those days, and he gave up everything and joined Gandhi’s

movement. He died within one year, because he could not tolerate. So

without spiritual engagement, one cannot give up this material

engagement. That is the real fact. One must… Tyaktva turnam

asesa-mandala-pati… They gave up this material enjoyment. That’s all

right. How they lived? Gopi-bhava-rasamrtabdhi-lahari-kallola-magnau

muhuh. They dipped into the ocean of the transcendental loving affairs

of the gopis with Krsna. That was their asset. Therefore they lived

very peacefully and very happily.

So we have to… We, we cannot simply give up. As it is said that

tyakta-karmanah, give up everyone, engagement, and

tyakta-svajana-bandhavah,… You’ll become mad if you give up all

these things, unless you have got staunch faith in Krsna. Then you

cannot give up. It is not possible. Param drstva nivartate. If you

find Krsna’s association is so nice, then you can very easily give up

your opulent position, svajana, bandhavah, family, business and

everything. If you… That requires sadhu-sanga, sadhu-sanga, to

associate with sadhu, devotees. Then you can develop such thing when

day will come you’ll be able to give up everything and you become

liberated person, quite fit for going back to home, back to Godhead.

Unless you are completely free… If you have got a tinge of

attachment for material enjoyment, Krsna will give you chance: “All

right, you enjoy. You enjoy, to the fullest extent.” Because we have

come to this material world for enjoying sense gratification.


741123SB.BOM                   Lectures

Generally, people, they are suffering. There is nobody in the

world, those who are materially engaged, can say boldly that “I am not

suffering.” Is there anybody? I challenge anyone. Can anyone say that

“I am not suffering”? So everyone must be suffering. Now, why these

Anacin tablets are advertised, “pain-killer”? Because they are

suffering. And not in this country, but in the Western countries,

America, one takes at least one dozen tablet daily for mitigating

suffering–tranquilizer, this, that, so many. They are advertised, and

they take. At last, for sleeping. Because they are more advanced. We

are less advanced; therefore we are satisfied only one tablet, Anacin.

(laughter) But they are not satisfied with one tablet. They have

dozens of tablet. I have seen it. It is advertised in the subway

trains. So many tablets are advertised. Suffering must be there.

Anyone who has got this material body has accepted suffering. That’s a

fact. But foolish people, they cannot understand. He thinks, “I am got

very fatty and beautiful body.” He is satisfied…


So one has to… Tapanti vividhas tapah. Vividhah, multi. Vividhah

means many. Tapanti vividhas tapa na etan mad-gata-cetasah. Those who

are Krsna conscious, they… We cannot say that they are not

suffering. They are suffering, but no so acutely. They know. Therefore

we have begun this sadhu’s symptoms, titiksavah, tolerant. Everyone is

tolerant. One has to tolerate. But a sadhu’s toleration and ordinary

man’s toleration is different. Sadhu’s toleration is not so acute

because a sadhu knows that he is not this body. There is a Bengali

Vaisnava song, deha-smrti nahi yara, samsara-bandhana kahan tara. If

we understand properly that “I am not this body,” then, although there

is suffering, you will not feel very much, although we are now

absorbed with this body, bodily sufferings are there. Just like the

example that you have got a car, and there is some accident. So one

who is too much absorbed with the thought that “This is my car” or “I

am car,” he suffers more. But if one knows that “I am not this car.

All right, there is some accident. It can be repaired or it can be…

That doesn’t matter.” It is a question of absorption of the thought.


741123SB.BOM                   Lectures

So this devotional service, this line of action, is so nice that if

we practice, if we make advance, then even in this material world,

staying, there will be no more suffering. That is called jivan mukta.

Jivan mukta means although he is in this body, but he is not suffering

the bodily miserable condition. It is a question of (sic:) absorption

of thought. I have read in some paper that Mr. Stalin, the communist

leader, he had to undergo a surgical operation of operating on the

belly. But doctor wanted to, what is called, chloroform, but he said,

“No, there is no need. You can go on with your operation.” So even in

ordinary life it is possible. Because the mind is absorbed in a

different way, even a surgical operation does not disturb a man.

Similarly, what to speak of spiritual life, if your mind is always

absorbed in Krsna thought, Krsna consciousness… That is stated

mad-gata-cetasah, always thinking of Krsna. And Krsna advises also.

What is His advice? Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru:

“You always think of Me.”


►741124SB.BOM                  Lectures

This was the beginning, how to become uncontaminated. We have got some

attachment to the material modes of nature. That is the cause of our

bondage. Now, if we want to be free from this bondage, uncontaminated,

then the same attachment should be transferred to the sadhu. Sa eva

sadhusu krtah, the same attachment. Everyone has got attachment.

Nobody is free of attachment. The Mayavadi philosophy, they say that

“Stop this attachment.” The Buddha philosophy says that “Make this

attachment zero.” This is also a little advancement, but it is not

possible to make our attachment zero. That is not possible. Therefore

Bhagavan says in the Bhagavad…, param drstva nivartate. Just like a

child has got attachment for playing, and gradually, his attachment

should be transferred for reading, going to school, education. But if

you stop his attachment, then he will become mad. You must give

something. Param drstva nivartate. Just like we … given up

meat-eating. So you must give something more palatable. Then

detachment will be possible. First of all nullify the attachment, and

then give him better attachment. Then he will forget. Param drstva

nivartate. You cannot force a living entity by force. Gradually… The

same example: a child has got attachment, but by some system, its

attachment is turned over.

   So similarly, our consciousness is there. Somehow or other, it is

now contaminated. So gradually, this contaminated consciousness has to

be purified, and then Krsna consciousness automatically will arise,

will be awakened, because the Krsna consciousness is original

consciousness. Somehow or other, it is now covered by material

attachment. So how to give up this material attachment and become

attached to Krsna, developing Krsna attachment? The process is



741124SB.BOM                   Lectures

There is an instance

during Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s time. Devotees from Bengal were going to

see Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and on the way a dog also began to follow

them. So the leader of the party, Sivananda Sena, he was also giving

food, prasadam, to the dog, and they had to cross one river, and the

boatman would not take the dog. Sivananda Sena paid him some more

money, that “You take the dog.” This is Vaisnava, that “This dog has

taken our company. He is going with us. How I can leave him behind?”

So he paid more money: “Please take this dog.” This is called suhrdah

sarva-dehinam. And the dog was emancipated. He went to Caitanya

Mahaprabhu, and he was sitting as dog, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu was

eating something and throwing it to the dog. In this way, the dog got

Vaikuntha. This is Krsna consciousness movement, that this

consciousness, this sympathy for everyone, can dispatch even a dog to

Vaikuntha. Suhrdah sarva-dehinam.

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Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: II

June 22, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

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Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: I

June 20, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

SB Vol 6

720619SB.LA                    Lectures

So altogether, it is a city of fifty thousand population, but there

are five thousand temples, Krsna. All Radha-Krsna. So this is a

chance, that “Come to Vrndavana, and wherever you go, you see

Radha-Krsna. That will make your life successful.” By seeing, seeing,

Radha-Krsna, Radha-Krsna, seeing, seeing, you’ll get an impression.

And if you continue… The inhabitants of Vrndavana, you’ll find if,

when you go there, that in the morning and evening, all of them, they

are going different temples and seeing the Deity Radha-Krsna. So there

is no need of education, there is no need of philosophy, there is no

need of science. Simply if you visit temples of Visnu, then your life

is successful. This is the Krsna consciousness process. Simply if you

move to the temple and see with your eyes; very simple process. Our,

this Krsna consciousness program is so simple, at the same time

sublime, that you become liberated at the end. Tyaktva deham punar

janma naiti. If you simply think of Krsna in that way.


720618SB.LA                    Lectures

Distress and happiness, they’re already destined, according to our

body. We have discussed this point. Take, for example, you American

boys and girls, you have got a body, by your previous activities. So

your standard of living is better than other country. So actually I

see that even if you go outside your country, your standard of living

is maintained. Because you have got already the body. Deha-yogena



720620SB.LA                    Lectures

There were many poets and writers used to come and visit

Caitanya Mahaprabhu when He was at Jagannatha Puri, and they would

present some writings, but these writings would not be presented

before Caitanya Mahaprabhu unless it was sanctioned by His secretary

Svarupa Damodara. That was the system. So one brahmana, he wrote one

poetry that… The purport of the poetry was that “Jagannatha is

Krsna. But He cannot move. He’s wooden Krsna. And Caitanya Mahaprabhu

is also Krsna, but He is moving Krsna.” That means he distinguished

between Jagannatha and Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So this is not siddhanta.

   This is not conclusion of the sastra. Sastra conclusion is: the

Deity and Krsna, the same. There is no difference. We have many times

explained this. Deity, the worshipful Deity in the temple, is not

different from Krsna. So Svarupa Damodara did not approve of the

poetry to be presented to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. At that time, he

chastised him that “You do not know the conclusion, and you dare to

write some poetry. Don’t do this.”


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Prabhupada: So here is one word, “steel-framed.” Nowadays, the medical

science is changing the heart, steel-framed. So this modern science is

making steel-framed hearts, but we can understand that formerly, also,

there were steel-framed hearts. Otherwise how this word comes? Tad

asma-saram hrdayam batedam. So just like stone or steel does not melt

very easily, similarly, anyone’s heart which does not change after

chanting Hare Krsna mantra regularly, then it is to be understood that

it is steel-framed, made of stone or iron. Actually, harinama… Harer

nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam. It is especially meant for

cleansing the heart. That every… All misconception is within our

heart, beginning from the wrong identification, that “I am this body.”

That is the beginning of all misconception. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu

says, ceto-darpana-marjanam. So as you go on chanting, gradually the

heart will be cleansed, and you’ll be able to understand that you are

not this body.

So this verse suggests that if a person is chanting Hare Krsna

mantra, but his eyes are not tearful or there is no ecstatic shivering

of the body, then that means he’s not coming to the perfectional


So if we chant this Hare Krsna mantra without offense, according

to, and observing the regulative principles and numerical strength …

Sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih. The Gosvamis, in Vrndavana, they

used to chant keeping in numerical strength. They were all liberated

persons; still, for teaching us an example, they also used to chant

keeping a numerical strength. Haridasa Thakura, he used to chant Hare

Krsna mantra keeping a numerical strength–300,000 times. 300,000

times. So our prescription is only 25,000. Not 100,000. So it is not

very difficult; it takes utmost 2 hours. We can find out, out of 24

hours, 2 hours. We can find out time. So if we actually follow the

rules and regulations and chant Hare Krsna mantra, then these symptoms

will come. Netre jalam gatra-ruhesu harsah. When this comes then you

know that “I am coming to perfection.” And if it is not coming, then

it is to be understood the heart is steel-framed. Steel-framed. So it

is steel only. Stone. Stone, if we keep our heart stone or

steel-framed, then it cannot be melted. This… These symptoms mean

heart is melting or changing…

… Now anyone is manufacturing

his own way of self realization, and there are rascals who are

supporting, that “Everyone, we are independent. We can find out our

own way of worship.” But Rupa Gosvami says, “This is simply creating

disturbance.” That is very natural to understand. Suppose here, in our

temple, we have got some regulative principles. But if everyone says

that “I can manufacture my own way of worshiping the Deity,” then what

will be the condition?

   It will be simply pandemonium. You see? So that is going on.

…authorized by the disciplic succession. We reject immediately. There

is example that inIndiathere is a tree, sagu, sagu(?) tree. I do not

know whether it is in your country. That, that tree has a very, I mean

to say, thick trunk. But a little jerking, it will break. A little

jerking. Sagu. And there is another tree which is called tamarind

tree. So even a fingerlike stem, you cannot break. It is so strong. So

our policy should be that when we are falling down, we must take

shelter of this tamarind tree, not that sagu tree. The tamarind tree

is Vedic instruction, infallible, without any mistake

..   Even if you say “primitive,” the primitive life is very nice.

Primitive life means simple life. Keeping pace with the nature’s law.

It is very nice. Primitive life … It gives you anxiety-free life,

and therefore, even if you take it as primitive, the saintly persons,

sages, they used to live long, long years, and their brain was so

sharp, because they were taking natural food, fruits, grains, and milk

that helps to develop human brain for understanding subtle subject

matter. So even Vyasadeva… You have seen the picture of Vyasadeva.

He’s writing books just near a cottage only. But he’s writing. Nobody

can create such literature. But he was leading very simple life, in a

cottage. Even, say, 2,000 years ago or little more, there was Canakya

Pandita. Canakya Pandita, he was a brahmana, but great politician. His

politics are studied even now in M.A. class. And because he was a

great politician, diplomat, under his name in ourIndia, inNew   Delhi,

the capital, there is a neighborhood which is called Canakya Puri, and

all the foreign embassies are there.


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Prabhupada: So it takes not more than five minutes. If you practice,

then you become learned scholars, simply by chanting these mantras,

and the translation, transcendental vibration, will keep you fit for

spiritual advancement. Every verse in Vedic literatures, especially

Bhagavad-gita or Srimad-Bhagavatam, they are not ordinary sounds.

Simply if you chant the mantras, you become purified. Srnvatam

sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. Punya-sravana-kirtanah.

Simply by hearing and chanting you become pious.

Punya-sravana-kirtanah. Even you don’t understand the meaning, the

very sound vibration will help you.

…parampara system. The parampara system means… Just like we claim

parampara system from Krsna. So whatever Krsna says or He said 5,000

years ago, we are repeating the same thing. That is called parampara

system. Not that “The world has changed. Scientific advancement is

very great. Now we can interpret in this way and that way.” This is

all nonsense. All nonsense. You cannot change a single alphabet. They

are all unmistakable. They cannot be changed. So that is niscayam


If you want to know positively, what is God, then we should take

lesson from a self-realized soul who has understood, who has seen.

Jnaninas tattva-darsinah. Just like here it is tattva-niscayam

atmanah. So tattvam, the truth, so one must have seen the truth,

realized the truth. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet. That is

guru. Means one who has seen the truth. How he has seen the truth?

Through the parampara system. Krsna said this, and then Brahma said

the same thing, then Narada said the same thing, Vyasadeva said the

same thing, and then disciplic succession, Madhvacarya, Madhavendra

Puri, Isvara Puri, Lord Caitanya, Sad-gosvami, Krsnadasa Kaviraja

Gosvami, Srinivasa Acarya, Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha

Cakravarti Thakura. In this way. Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Gaura Kisora

dasa Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. Then we are speaking. The same

thing. Not that “Because we are modernized… Your modern science has

changed.” Nothing has changed.-


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Jnana and tattva-darsi. Simply jnani, simply a-b-c-d knowledge,

academic education will not help. You must be jnani, at the same time,

tattva-darsi. That tattva-darsana cannot be possible by mental



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   Material thought means these fruitive activities. “I shall work

very hard, and I shall get so much wealth, and for this purpose I can

go to church and temple. If God gives me millions of dollars, then I

am ready to go there.” So real purpose is sense gratification. “If I

take to religious principles, then I’ll get more money without any

hard work, and if I get more money, then I’ll be able to satisfy my

senses.” This is called dharmartha-kama. And there is another stage,

which is called moksa, liberation. So people are not interested for

liberation. They want to become religious for material benefits. But

that is not the real purpose of life. Material benefit, you cannot get

more than what you are destined to have; that is already fixed up.

According to your body… You get the body. We get different types of

body, and according to the body, our material sufferings and enjoyment

are fixed up, already. You cannot have more or less. Otherwise…

you’ll see, one man is working so hard, day and night, and he could

hardly maintain himself or his family. And another man, he’s going to

the market, sits down for one hour, and earns 100,000 dollars,

immediately. You can see. Simply by touching the phone, he simply

asks, “What is the rate of this? What is the rate of that?” and he

makes one transaction, and immediately he gets one thousand dollars.

And this man is working hard, day and night, he could not get even two

sufficient meals.

.. So therefore, the conclusion is that so far material comforts are concerned, you cannot

get more. Or less. You will get. It is already fixed up. Deha-yogena

dehinam. Sukham aindriyakam daitya deha-yogena dehinam, sarvatra

labhyate… eh? Yatha duhkham ayatnatah. Prahlada Maharaja says.

Sarvatra labhyate. So far material comfort is concerned, what you are

destined to get, you’ll get it, in wherever you may live. It doesn’t

matter. Your allotment is already there. That is your body.


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the Western countries all these philosophers… The Darwin’s theory

He cannot give any reasonable cause. Some theory: “It may be, perhaps,

for millions of years there was no…” Speculate. And he admits that

“Whatever I am presenting, it is all my speculation.” We have seen his

letter, some, from 150 years ago. He wrote a letter to a friend. He

admitted that “Whatever I am presenting, that is speculation.” But

science is not speculation. Science cannot be speculation. That is not

science. “Two plus two equal to four”–this is science. And if you

speculate–“Two plus two equal to five” or “Two plus two equal to

three”–that is not science.


720420SB.TOK                   Lectures

Prabhupada: No, this same verse. Practice it. In this way you practice

one mantra daily. Each mantra will purify you hundred yards daily. Go

forward. These mantras are very powerful, given by Vyasadeva Gosvami,

vibrated. And spoken by… Suka-mukhad drava-samyutamrtam. That is

explained in the beginning. Just like a ripened fruit in the tree is

already very sweet, and if it is touched by the beak of the parrot, it

becomes sweeter. These are natural course. If the parrot touches the

fruit, he cuts little by his beak, beak. Beak, you call beak? Then it

becomes still sweeter. Suka-mukhad drava-samyutam. Similarly,

Srimad-Bhagavatam is already sublime, transcendental. And when it is

spoken through the mouth of Sukadeva Gosvami, it becomes still sweet,

just like the fruit. The parrot is also called suka. It is called

suka-paksi, suka bird. So this comparison is given.

…And if we chant that… Just like you are chanting

so many songs, similarly, if we chant one or two verses of

Srimad-Bhagavatam, that will make you very quickly advanced for

spiritual realization. We are therefore taking so much trouble to get

this transliteration, the meaning, so that the reader may take

advanced step, full advantage of the mantra. It is not that to show

some scholarship, that “I know so much Sanskrit.” No. It is just

offered with humility to learn the mantra because one who will chant

the mantra… They are all transcendental vibration. Just Hare Krsna

mantra… This is maha-mantra, but they are also mantras, all the

verses from Bhagavad-gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam, spoken by Krsna, spoken

by… Bhagavata also, spoken by Krsna. Vyasadeva is incarnation of

Krsna. They’re also mantras, infallible instructions. So try to get it

by heart, chanting. Either you chant by seeing the book or get it by

heart, it is all the same. But try to chant one, two slokas daily.



720420SB.TOK                   Lectures

next. Come here. So you have to study like that. So many slokas, I am

taking so much labor. If you do not read it carefully… It is not for

that I am making business, for selling only, and not for my students.

You must all read like this, practice. Why so much trouble is being

taken, word to word meaning and then transliteration? If you chant

this mantra, that vibration will cleanse the atmosphere. And wherever

you go, in any part of the world, if you can chant this mantra, oh,

you’ll be received like God. It is so nice. And in India he’ll

actually receive like Gods if you chant this mantra. They will so

offer their respects, so many. Veda-mantra.


720420SB.TOK                   Lectures

Karandhara: “Now the next question will automatically be made as to

why the Lord influences the living entity to such consciousness and

forgetfulness. The answer is that the Lord clearly wishes that every

living entity be engaged in his pure consciousness as the part and

parcel of the Lord, and thus be engaged in loving service of the Lord

as he is constitutionally made. But because the living entity is

partially independent also, he may not be willing to serve the Lord,

but may try to become independent as the Lord is. The whole nondevotee

class of living entities are all desirous of becoming equally as

powerful as the Lord, although they are not fit to become so. The

living entities are…”

.. So the yogic siddhis… So Krsna gives him some power of

yogic siddhi and he thinks that “I have become God,” and some

flatterers, they also think, “Oh, you are God.” The same dream. And as

soon as death comes, everything finished, your Godhood and everything

finished. Now becomes doghood, come to the stage of doghood. Again,

another dream: “I am dog.” First of all “I am God,” then next stage,

“I am dog.” This is going on. Therefore Bhaktivinoda Thakura said,

keno mayar bose jaccho bhese’: “Why you are being washed away by the

waves of maya? Just fix up. Stand up.” Jiv krsna-das ei viswas korle

to ar duhkho nai. You simply remain fixed up on this standpoint, that,

“I am eternal servant of Krsna.” Then there is no more dream. And if

you allow yourself to be washed away, Krsna gives you facility, “All

right, come on. Be washed away.” Then?

.. Therefore the first sinful will of the

living entity is to become the Lord, and the consequent will of the

Lord is that the living entity forgets his actual life and thus dreams

of the land of utopia where he may become one like the Lord. The child

cries to have the moon from the mother and the mother gives the child

a mirror to satisfy the crying and disturbing child with the shadow of

the moon. Similarly the crying child of the Lord is given over to the

shadow of the material world to lord it over as a karmi and to give

this up in frustration to become one with the Lord. Both these stages

are dreaming illusions only. There is no necessity of tracing out the

history when the living entity desired this, but the fact is that as

soon as he desired such, he was put under the control of atma-maya by

the direction of the Lord. Therefore the living entity in his material

condition is dreaming falsely that this is ‘mine’ and this is ‘I.’ The

dream is that the conditioned soul thinks of his material body as ‘I’

or falsely thinks that he is the lord and that everything in

connection with the material body is ‘mine.’

Prabhupada: So as soon as you understand that “This is not… I am not

in contact with tiger. It is all a dream,” then you are delivered.

Similarly, as soon as you understand, “All this material condition of

life we are simply dreaming; I am actually servant of Krsna,” then you

are liberated. That is Krsna conscious. If you keep in Krsna

consciousness, that “I am eternal servant of Krsna,” then you are

liberated. Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaa kalpate, Krsna says.

Immediately brahma-bhutah. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na

kanksati. He has no more lamentation, no more hankering. Samah sarvesu

bhutesu. He can see everyone on equal vision. Because he knows, “Here

is also another living entity.” He is not a Chinaman. He is a part and

parcel of God. He is not a Christian. He is not a Hindu. He is simply

thinking like that. So give him Krsna consciousness. That is real

benefit, to bring him to the original position. Yes?

.. Trivikrama: This feeling that we have, that we are fallen, that we are

very fallen…

Prabhupada: That is also illusion. That is also illusion. You are

fallen means you have got some certain desires except service of

Krsna. Therefore the conclusion is that if you keep yourself tightly

in Krsna’s service, there is no question of falling down or there is

no question of maya. You see?

Devotee: Even at that state, still the body is affected by the modes

of nature. We are experiencing desires.

Prabhupada: You are not experiencing. Your body is experiencing. You

are feeling cold due to this body. You are not feeling cold. You are

not feeling cold.

Devotee: But I think I am feeling cold.

Prabhupada: You are thinking. That is illusion. That is illusion.

Devotee: So rise above that.

Prabhupada: Yes. But not artificially, but this is the fact. You have

to gradually rise to that platform. The fact is this. Just like when

you are feverish, actually you are healthy, but it has come. So in the

feverish condition you are thinking, “I am now feverish.” But this

feverish will not, condition, will not stay. You will come to the

…these are coming and going. So if there is some feeling of pain and

pleasure, simply just tolerate it, but don’t be absorbed in that

thought. That’s all. Therefore titiksava. The first symptoms of a

saintly person is titiksava, tolerant. Tolerant. So go on reading, go

on understanding. Everything will be clear



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In this way, when we think that we are servant of the

servant of the servant of the servant of Krsna, that is our

perfection. Otherwise, even if we think that “I am not brahmana. I

have got sacred thread. I am very clean. I am taking bath.” That is

required, of course, because if you are actually servant of servant of

Krsna, then these qualities will be there as subordinate.

Just like when you have earned 100,000’s of dollars, it is not that

the ten dollar is not there. Ten dollar is there, but it is not very

important. Similarly, to become a servant of the servant of servant of

Krsna means that the brahminical qualification which is worth ten

dollars, that must be also there. But even at that stage, if your ten

dollar quality is lacking, then you cannot become proud of becoming

the servant of the servant. You cannot become proud of possessing

100,000’s of dollars if you cannot pay ten dollars. Do you follow? If

you say, “Now I am in possession of 100,000’s of dollars,” and if I

ask, “Give me ten dollars.” “No. I haven’t got.” So similarly, if you

actually have become transcendental servant of Krsna, if the qualities

of brahmana is lacking, then you are not perfect. The brahminical

qualification must be there. Then you are falsely possessing. If you

falsely say that “I possess 100,000 dollars,” and if I ask, “Give me

ten dollars.” “No. I…” This is false prestige. So these ten dollars

will not serve my purpose. I will have to acquire 100,000 dollars.

That is Vaisnava qualification. But when we are actually in possession

of 100,000 dollars, you must be able to pay ten dollars. You cannot

say, “No. I haven’t got ten dollars.” Then we are falsely advertising

that you have got 100,000.

So the conclusion is the expert manager, the bank manager, so, if

some man in the establishment, is absent, he can do the work

immediately because he has learned all the things. Bank manager

becomes from the lower clerk. When I was manager in Bose’s laboratory

there was a strike. So there was no packer. So I asked all the clerks

to, “Come on. Let us pack.” As soon as we begin packing, the strike

was broken. So a man claiming to be in the high position, he must be

expert in everything. He must be expert in everything. So therefore a

Vaisnava is called daksa, expert. Expert. So our, this Krsna

consciousness movement being the highest, topmost quality, so in case

we require to do the work, some lower quality, we cannot say that “I

do not know.” We must do it.


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Anyone who is not Krsna conscious, he

is a rascal. We accept him. He may be very big man, but a very big

means means amongst the rascals, another set of rascals, because they

are also under the influence of maya. Just like in the society of

asses, one ass is singing. (Imitates ass noise.) They ass feeling,

Oh, how nicely he is singing.” (laughter) All asses. One ass is

singing, and they appreciate. “Oh, great singer.” And you are all,

“Stop it! Stop it! Please stop it! Stop it. Stop it.” This is going

on. So all these leaders, all these rascals, they are all rascals. At

least you must know. You may behave gentlemanly. That is your duty.

But you should know that he is a rascal number one.


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the association with the modes of material nature, we are getting

different types of body. And according to different types of body, we

are developing different types of consciousness. Is it very difficult

to understand? But when we transcend this bodily concept of life, then

we come to the one standard consciousness. That is Krsna

consciousness. That is Krsna consciousness. Try to understand. If

there is any difficulty, ask. It is very important. Why there are

different consciousness? Everyone could take up this Krsna

consciousness. But they cannot take it because they have got bodily

concept of life. And body means association with the modes of material

nature in a different way. Try to understand. Is there any question on

this point? Say it clearly. If you have understood, explain. It is

very important point…

…   There is sometimes question, “How one who lived in association with

Krsna, how he fell down?” Generally those who are living with Krsna or

Vaikuntha, they never fall down. But those who are in the effulgence

of Krsna, in the impersonal Brahman, they fall down. Because it is the

propensity of the living entity to enjoy. But one cannot enjoy; there

is no ananda. Those who are merging in the Brahman effulgence, they

are getting the department of eternity. The Brahman is sac-cid-ananda.

So they are simply accepting sad-amsa. Sad-amsa means only eternity.

Just like if you are asked to sit down in a place eternally, no, it

will be impossible. You must desire a change, variety, because we are

living entities, living beings. So therefore our Vaisnava philosophy

has varieties of enjoyment.

…make money. Now, if you simply take it formally… Hayagriva has taken

the formality. We have to keep some cows. Never mind we are to take

payment from others. That is not cow protection. Cow protection means

just like Bhagavan, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He is tending

the cows. He is going, taking the cows personally from His royal

palace going to the forest whole day, working there. Is it not,

cowherds boy? And taken some little fruit, mother, whatever mother has

given. They are playing that. So this is cow protection, not that

“Somebody will give money and we shall keep some third class cows and

feed there and become cow protector.” We must tend the cows very

nicely so that they give us sufficient milk. And with that milk we

shall live. “No, because we are giving protection to cow, you send

money for the cows and the cow protectors, and earn money there and

give us money. We shall eat nicely and sleep.” As soon as this

practice is going on, then next will be: “Give me some LSD, give me

something else.” This will go on. We don’t want that.

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Cartoon of kali yuga-the iron age in which we now “live”

June 17, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

5000 Year old predictions, sadly coming true…..

I would personally suggest the government. They   never go to jail.
SB 5.12.7 Purport-     It is stated in  Srimad-Bhagavatam that in Kali-yuga the heads of government will be  plunderers and thieves. These thieves and plunderers take the money and  property of the public by force or connivance. Therefore it is said in  Srimad-Bhagavatam, rajanyair nirghrnair dasyu-dharmabhih. As Kali-yuga advances, we can see that these characteristics are already visible. We can  certainly imagine how deteriorated human civilization will be by the end of Kali-yuga. Indeed, there will no longer be a sane man capable of  understanding God and our relationship with Him. In other words, human beings  will be just like animals. At that time, in order to reform human society, Lord Krsna will come in the form of the Kalki avatara. His  business will be to kill all the atheists because ultimately the real protector is Visnu, or Krsna.
740928SB.MAY Lectures 214172/530501 plunderers. That is the statement in the  Srimad-Bhagavatam. Dasyu-dharmabhih. The government men will be all  dasyu. Dasyu means plunderer. Not pickpocket. Pickpocket, somehow or  other, if you do not understand, takes something from your pocket, and the  plunderer, or the dasyu, he catches you and by force, “If you don’t  spare your money, I shall kill you.” They are called  dasyu.   So the, in the present age of Kali, the  government men will be dasyu. This is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam.  Dasyu-dharmabhih. You can, we can see practically. You cannot keep your  money. You earn with hard labor, but you cannot keep gold, you cannot keep  jewelry, you cannot keep money. And… They will take it away by laws.
741001SB.MAY                    Lectures                   214359/530501   So actual, actual value, to keep cows, to have  food grains or gold, jewelries, these are the signs of richness. But  Kali-yuga is so cruel that if you have got gold, if you have got jewels, then  government will take away. Dasyu-dharmabhih. Formerly there were  ordinary plunderers, thieves. Now, according to Srimad-Bhagavatam,  the government will be composed of organized thieves. That is  meant: dasyu-dharmabhih, rajabhih. Government officer means organized  thieves in every country. That will be the situation. So you cannot keep  now. You have to be satisfied with these papers. That’s all.

Reply To Rocana das’s Obnoxious Article

June 10, 2012 in Articles, Devaki nandana Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

Dear Rocana Prabhu (Sampradaya Sun Staff,etc)

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

In your recent article on June 7th 2012 “Hare Krishna Society and the Company They Keep” on you have mentioned some serious inaccuracies and practical vicious lies regarding Jitarati Prabhu’s defense of Sakshi Gopal das’s many blasphemous statements to Srila Prabhupada, Lord Krsna and the Scriptures in his many articles. (For the record, you spelled Jitarati Prabhu’s name incorrectly, it should be Jitarati das, and not Jiterati as you mentioned).

For your kind information, dear Rocana Prabhu, and the protection of your own spiritual life creeper (Bhakti lata bija), in order that you will not keep making so many unnecessary dangerous offences, please understand that the person who is mentioned in the article BIF, Sakshi Gopal das Blaspheme Lord Krishna, Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavad-gita as “Sakshi Gopal’s close associate and chief right(wrong) hand man” is NOT Jitarati Prabhu, but Shyamasundara das, the Australian devotee, first initiated by Uncle Bhavananda, then by UncleJagdish, and now defacto by Sakshi Gopal.

It is Shyamasundara das who has all along been supporting Sakshi Gopal in his direct blasphemy of Srila Prabhupada, Krsna and scriptures like the Bhagavad Gita by Srila Prabhupada and theSrimad Bhagavatam, in his article “Grand Theft Atma” which you can find here and in his website you can find two further articles titled “Elephant In the Room” and “Sex Drugs and Syphillis”

Rocana Prabhu, you yourself are also familiar with the above mentioned blasphemous articles written by Sakshi Gopal, but what you are ignorant of (or at least pretend to be ignorant of ) is that the editing, proof reading, responsibility for publishing, and follow up of responses to these blasphemous articles was all along done by Shyamasundara das who is the right hand man of Sakshi Gopal das, and who unfortunately aided and abetted Sakshi in his many heinous offences against Srila Prabhupada, Krsna and the Sastras.

Thus you, Rocana Prabhu, have knowingly/unknowingly supported these two dangerous blasphemous personalities all along, and to add salt to the injury, you have now falsely implicated an innocent devotee Jitarati Prabhu as being the person who was involved with Sakshi’s blasphemous articles. Again please note for the record and for maintainance of the truth, that Jitarati Prabhu did NOT have anything to do AT ALL with Sakshi Gopal and Shymasundara on these articles. Indeed Jitarati Prabhu had long distanced himself from Sakshi’s and Shyamasundar’s association since around 2007,even from the investigation of the Poison issue (which they had initially worked on together with someother devotees).

Quite the contrary and indeed completely opposite to what you claim about Jitarati Prabhu being involved in Sakshi’s blasphemous articles, it was Jitarati Prabhu, myself and a few other devotees who decided to response to Sakshi Gopal das’s blasphemous articles, and thus we in turn submitted to you the article BIF, Sakshi Gopal das Blaspheme Lord Krishna, Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavad-gita which you published in your website. We had mentioned the authors name in plurals “BY: A GROUP OF SRILA PRABHUPADA DISCIPLES AND FOLLOWERS” because we knew of your constant long allergy to us Rtvik devotees. We felt that if we had put our direct personal names, you would never bother to publish our article, as you had done with so many Rtvik devotees in the past when they submitted you their articles. In any case the article was a combined effort of a few devotees of which myself, and Jitarati Prabhu was a few amongst of, to counteract Sakshi and Shyamasundar’s blasphemy.

This silly and unecessary allergy of yours to us Rtvik devotees regardless ofwhether we are from the West Coast, East Coast, North Coast, South Coast, or from any part of the world should be completely given up by your good self, as it is only back firing on you. This is evidenced, because you have put your foot in your mouth by making these false and silly statements in public that Jitarati Prabhu was involved with Saksi’s blasphemous articles on Srila Prabhupada and Krsna. You have been caught red-handed with your hands stuck viciously in the cookie jar. Anyone who knows Jitarati Prabhu personally can see clearly what a total fool you have made of yourself, along of course with your foolishly concocted ‘Sampradaya Acarya ‘ philosophy which you have been preaching for so many years to so many devotees, but which till this day, only you can understand.

Indeed Rocana Prabhu , your pattern since these many years has always been to jump and seize on the slightest opportunity that you can get to put down the Rtvik devotees. This fact is shown in your latest article where you not only find fault with Jitarati Prabhu, but also Yasoda nandana Prabhu, Puranjana Prabhu, other West Coast Rtviks, and Madhu Pandit Prabhu in India who has accomplished so much in the field of preaching Srila Prabhupad’s teachings. Indeed these accomplishments would take you a few million lifetimes just to comphrehend. This is because you always fear and see these Rtvik devotees as a threat to your bogus ‘Sampradaya Acarya’ philosophy which again, only you can understand, or to be fair to you, one more person can understand, namely the alien PhantomGuru hiding in the alien ship patiently waiting one day to be anointed by you to save Iskcon and destroy the Rtviks. Please see below this letter to you the actual proof for yoursatisfaction to understand that it was actually Shymasundara das who is Sakshi Gopal’s right hand man by reading his e mail sent to me on Nov 17th 2011. This wasin response to my initial e mail to him and concern about Sakshi’s first blasphemous article “Grand Theft Atma”. Anyone can see how foolishly enthusiastic Shyamasundara is in his defense of Sakshi. My second e mail which is much longer is also available below the first one and where you will find myself chastising Shyamasundara das for his crazy comments and defence of Sakshi Gopal’s blasphemy.

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June 10, 2012 in Articles, Damaghosa Dasa by Damaghosa dasa

After the recent flurry of offenses cast by certain “devotees” against Yasoda nandan, Puranjana, Krsnacandra, and many others aligned with the Prabhupadanugas , I felt, while I was taking lunch prasadam today, that a short, but specific letter was in order to try and help those who seem to relish finding fault– where there is no fault.
Basically the problem, if you want to call it that, is this– some people who like to think of themselves as Vaisnavas, but who are far from that standard, continually thru the internet spread malicious lies about the above devotees. They think for some twisted reasons that one Srila Prabhupada disciple named Tattva Darshan who successfully founded and maintains the Bhaktivedanta Eco Village (BEV) in Karnataka India over 20 years ago- is a child molester. And they further think that the above named other devotees are of the same mentality since they and myself are giving him (Tattva) spiritual backing in his attempt to reform and continue to render service to Srila Prabhupada.
For those of you who love to hear this kind of smut, I will tell you the real story.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED– In Cambodia everyone knows there is a lively sex trade going on.
Tattva darshan (from BEV) used to go there and other places to collect money for his project back in India. (He personally told me that he has spent around a million collected dollars thru very hard work on this Varnashram project)
Somehow or other, he got involved in some sexual affair with a young woman, not a child mind you, and was caught in a sting operation by the local police. He went to jail for around two years and was eventually released. There never was any child sex going on, as was falsely reported by some agencies, it was simply a sexually agitated man who wanted some sex while he was far away from home. He is not a guru,or a sannyasi or anybody posing to be some renunciate. He is a very hard working married man with a wonderful family and a very understanding wife.
That is what happened. However these certain “devotees” seem to think that Tattva Darshan was some kind of pervert looking only for small girls for sex. This is totally wrong and false. The Hare Krsna Society let me say here, does not condone this kind of activity but when it does happen (regular prostitution amongst adults) then devotees who are mature should see if as it is. A temporary falldown which should be excused-especially in light of all the tremendous devotional work Tattva darshan has done in a very difficult country, foreign to natural birth.
At this point let me ask our readers this-
Have you ever committed any sinful acts? NO?
Then you shouldn’t even be reading this.
If you have done any sinful things, then you should understand and know that if God Himself forgives you for such things, then why would or could any ordinary mortal find fault with you? The answer is simply– envy.That’s all. (See full philosophical explanation by Visvanatha Chakravarti at the end)

What is the Hare Krishna Society?

June 10, 2012 in Articles, Narasimha Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

What is the Hare Krishna Society?

In the early days of Srila Prabhupada’s mission in the West, some ISKCON leaders wanted to install teletype machines in all the temples, but Srila Prabhupada did not approve of the idea. He expressed concern that his neophyte students would use the machines for politics and gossip and thus waste time.

”…The installing of telex communications for our main temples is not required. Then they will gossip more through the telex….” Srila Prabhupada letter, February 5, 1977

Today it is practically seen that many ignorant persons posing as preachers hide behind their computer screens and spread unfounded allegations against devotees or try to raise doubts about the activities and purposes of bona fide sangas of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples. Those with a political agenda, and other ignorant or malicious persons, sometimes spread false allegations about Srila Prabhupada’s faithful disciples and thus commit the offense know as sadhu-ninda. Sadhu-ninda can quickly ruin one’s forward progress in devotional service.  By hearing malicious rumors about disciples of Srila Prabhupada and by accepting and tolerating such nonsense without challenge or protest, internet surfers and sufferers may disrupt their forward progress on the path of bhakti-yoga.

“…Anyone who is a bona fide preacher of the cult of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu must be respectful to the real devotees of Lord Caitanya; one should not be envious, considering one preacher to be very great and another to be very lowly. This is a material distinction and has no place on the platform of spiritual activities…”

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – 1975 Edition  Adi 10.7 :

“… If a Vaiṣṇava, by the mercy of the Lord, is empowered by Him to distribute the Lord’s holy name all over the world, other Vaiṣṇavas become very joyful-that is, if they are truly Vaiṣṇavas. One who is envious of the success of a Vaiṣṇava is certainly not a Vaiṣṇava himself, but an ordinary mundane man. Envy and jealousy are manifested by mundane people, not by Vaiṣṇavas. Why should a Vaiṣṇava be envious of another Vaiṣṇava who is successful in spreading the holy name of the Lord? An actual Vaiṣṇava is very pleased to accept another Vaiṣṇava who is bestowing the Lord’s mercy. A mundane person in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava should not be respected but rejected. This is enjoined in the śāstra (upekṣā). The word upekṣā means neglect. One should neglect an envious person. A preacher’s duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaiṣṇavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaiṣṇavas in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. There is no need to serve a jealous person who is in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava. When Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava sevā nistāra payeche kebā, he is indicating an actual Vaiṣṇava, not an envious or jealous person in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava…”

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – Madhya-lila 1.218

Over the years, a few antagonistic persons have tried to malign the Hare Krishna Society for ridiculous and selfish reasons. Some persons have apparently felt slighted by HKS because of our strict policy to ignore the various vitiated “iskcon” groups, the various members associated with these groups, senior devotees who are still confused about Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, and other misguided persons associated with various other groups, such as branches of the former Gaudiya matha. (See references below.)

We also tend to avoid persons who are obsessed with the idea of trying to reform corporate iskcon’s clerics. We also avoid those who want to advertise and exaggerate the alleged faults of specific devotees, particularly those who are unpretentious preachers who know the siddhanta.  Because we refrain from involvement in drawn out, rambling discussions on the internet with persons who are misguided or antagonistic, some devotees feel slighted. (See references below.) We feel the best way to deal with various misguided persons is to teach the truth about Srila Prabhupada and His instructions. If we attack something, we attack the sin and the sinful idea rather than all the individual sinners. We generally avoid discussing individuals—unless we are forced to do so. We have enough to do to explain the fundamentals of Krishna consciousness to innocent devotees who have been misled by bogus preachers.

“…If one hears the activities of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu with this faith, he can be freed from his envious position. Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is meant for such nonenvious persons (nirmatsarāṇāṁ satām)….”

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta  Madhya-lila 9.362 :

Our positive agenda is to preach the glories of Lord Caitanya, Srila Prabhupada and the bona fide parampara. In the course of preaching correctly about the mission and teachings of the Krishna consciousness movement all opposing elements are defeated naturally.  It is not HKS policy to attack and expose individual leaders for their sinful secret lives and extravagance. This is not practical.  Nor is it advised in shastra to chase after and try to reform unrepentant deviants. We naturally expose obvious deviations in siddhanta and sadhana by preaching the truth. (See references below.)

HKS generally avoids direct confrontation with the fallen branches of iskcon.  Some persons criticize us for 1) not attacking iskcon, 2) attacking iskcon,  3) not being under a gbc,  4) not supporting devotees who attack iskcon leaders, 5) supporting those who attack Iskcon leaders, 6) creating an organization separate from iskcon, and so on. (See references.)

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