Prabhupada explains why we all should become Madhyama, 2nd class bhakta

July 21, 2014 in Artilces, Damaghosa Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Bits of this lecture below explained by Srila Prabhupada tells us:

1) If one is at least doing daily Deity worship, following the principles, and nothing
else, then he or she is prakrta bhakta or materialistic devotee. If one is not doing
Deity worship, and no preaching, that he does not say, but one can surmise, it is lower than 3rd class devotee.

2).To come to the Madhyama position one must become "known" Prabhupada states- to others.
If one is satisfied to remain at home and just chant Hare Krsna and maybe do some puja, then
he or she remains on the material platform.

3) Srila Prabhupada wanted all his disciples to come at least to the Madhyama platform. This
is an advanced devotee, one who is not on the material platform.

4.) Any devotee even on the material platform is still considered-devotee.

Hare Krsna
damaghosa das

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This is called bhakti-yoga. Bhakti-yoga system.
A neophyte devotee should be engaged in temple worship. But if he does
not make further improvement, if he sticks to the simply temple
worship, then he remains a kanistha-adhikari, lower standard devotee,
lower standard devotee
. But one has to become first standard devotee.
At least one must… A first standard devotee is very high position,
spiritual position. But at least we must come to the second standard.
The lower standard is

arcayam eva haraye
pujam yah sraddhayehate
na tad-bhaktesu canyesu
sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah

Arca. This arca-vigraha, Deity, Krsna, arcayam eva haraye, the Deity
of Krsna, yah pujam sraddhaya ihate, with great devotion and according
to the rules and regulations, if one performs, that is very nice. But
if he does not improve, na tad-bhaktesu canyesu, he does not become
knowable to the devotees and other persons, then he remains a
kanistha-adhikari, sa bhaktah prakrtah. Prakrta means in the material

platform. He does not actually promote to the spiritual platform if he
simply remains.
Therefore along with the worship of Krsna, in the temple, these
hearing should be… Sravanam kirtanam. Just like we are doing. We do
not engage only the devotees to the temple worship, but there must be
program for hearing Bhagavad-gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam, the science of
God. Otherwise, after some time, simply if you ring the bell, after
sing you’ll be disgusted, and the whole thing will be lost–as it is
has become now in India. There was no instruction about Krsna
consciousness. They simply attached to the temple and belling, and now
it is lost, zero. Devotion is zero. So two things must go on,
parallel. Then if the two things must go, then you are promoted to the
second platform, madhyama-adhikari.
Madhyama-adhikari means at that time he sees four things.

isvare tad-adhinesu
balisesu dvisatsu ca
prema-maitri-krpopeksa
yah karoti sa madhyamah

Madhyama. Isvare. By arcana-vidhi, he understands Krsna, the Supreme
Personality of Godhead, by this process, by the regulative process, by
the instruction of the spiritual master, by the regulative principle
set up in the bhakti-sastras. Just like Narada-pancaratra,
Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu. There are many… So, at that time, if one
comes from the lower platform to the… Of course, we must know that
any devotee, either in the lower platform or in the second platform or
in the first platform, they are to be considered as devotees. Not that
because one is in the material platform, he’s not devotee.
He’s also
devotee. But he has to improve. The improvement means he must know
what is Krsna. Simply if he remains attached to the temple worship and
does not try to understand who is a Krsna devotee and how he has to
deal with others… Na tad-bhaktesu canyesu. We have got some duty to
others. This is preaching work. One should not be satisfied simply by
worshiping in the temple. Then he’ll remain a neophyte. He must become
a preacher, Krsna consciousness. Then he comes to the second platform.
So when he becomes a preacher he sees four things. He sees God,
Krsna, Isvara. Tad-adhina, and the devotees. Tad-adhina means those
who have accepted Krsna as the parama-purusa. There is another verse
in the Srimad-Bhagavatam: ittham satam brahma-sukhanubhutya dasyam
gatanam para-daivatena. Dasyam gatanam. For the bhaktas, Krsna is the
Supreme Lord, para-deva.

ittham satam brahma-sukhanubhutya
dasyam gatanam para-daivatena
mayasritanam nara-darakena
sakam vijahruh krta-punya-punjah

When Sukadeva Gosvami described the cowherd boys playing with Krsna,
so he’s remarking that these boys who are playing with Krsna… Who is
this Krsna? Ittham brahma-sukhanubhutya. Those who are impersonalists,
those who are attached to the impersonal brahmajyoti, for them, He is
the target, He is the target. From Him, the brahmajyoti comes. Ittham
brahma-sukhanubhutya and dasyam gatanam para-daivatena. And those who
are devotees, for them, here is the Supreme Lord. Dasyam gatanam
para-daivatena. And mayasritanam nara-darakena. And those who are
under the influence of maya, for them, He’s ordinary human child. The
same person. Different vision. One is seeing that the ultimate target
of brahmajyoti, and somebody’s seeing that he’s the Supreme Lord, and
somebody’s seeing that He’s ordinary boy.


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Srila Prabhupada defines “Karmis”

July 3, 2014 in Artilces, Srila Prabhupada by Nityananda Rama dasa

Hare Krsna Prabhus,

Pranams.. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Just sharing some nectar from His Divine Grace..
Yhs, Bal.

Srila Prabhupada defines “Karmis”

Extract from morning walk April 24th 1976, Srila Prabhupada’s last visit to Melbourne Australia.
Please see full conversation… http://causelessmercy.com/t/?P=760424mw.mel&PLFN=Melbourne

Guru-kṛpā: The jñānīs, they are trying to study Vedānta to find out what is the end. So that is better than being karmī.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru-kṛpā: Even if they don’t know the answer, they are trying to seek out.
Prabhupāda: No, their answer is there, merging with the Supreme.
Guru-kṛpā: But again they must come back. That’s not complete liberation.
Prabhupāda: That means not complete knowledge.
Guru-kṛpā: So they have also stopped, ended in Brahman.
Prabhupāda: Āruhya kṛcchreṇa paraṁ padaṁ tataḥ patanty adho ’nādṛta-yuṣmad-aṅghrayaḥ [SB 10.2.32].
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Practically, Śrīla Prabhupāda, we see that we’re dealing mostly with karmīs, not with jñānīs, in our preaching work.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: And they are simply interested in some immediate satisfaction.
Prabhupāda: Karmīs not. Vikarmī. Karmī, vikarmī, akarmī. We are dealing with vikarmī.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Vikarma, oh. Prohibited actions.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Karmīs will not do anything sinful.
Guru-kṛpā: Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma [Bhāg. 5.5.4].
Prabhupāda: Vikarma, yes.
Devotee (2): So why do we call them karmīs?
Prabhupāda: Vikarmīs, opposite karmī.
Devotee (2): So there’s practically no karmīs.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sinful.
Prabhupāda: Sinful activities, duṣkṛtinaḥ. Vikarma. Therefore they will be punished in different forms of life. Therefore we find so many species of life, forms of life. This is punishment. But māyā’s curtain, they are thinking, “We are happy.” Just like this tree is a punishment, but it has no sense that this is punishment.
Guru-kṛpā: Thinks he’s happy.
Prabhupāda: Standing happily for five thousand years.
Guru-kṛpā: Drinking only water.
Prabhupāda: If you are asked to stand here for five hours, you’ll feel most uncomfortable. But they are standing for five thousand years, no uncomfortable. This is punishment. Punishment is there, but unaware. So everyone is like that. Anyone in the material world, they are being punished in different degree, but unaware. That is māyā’s grace, that although he is punished, he cannot understand.
Guru-kṛpā: So they answer that “If you’re happy, then what’s wrong with that?”
Prabhupāda: Yes, that class you are here. You go on with that happiness. But we are not satisfied with this. You are rascal, you are happy in that way, but we are not. That is the difference between you and me.
Guru-kṛpā: Happiness of the fool.
Prabhupāda: Yes.

10 kinds of devotional service-Naradiya Purana & Prabhupada’s explanations

June 20, 2014 in Artilces, Damaghosa Dasa by Nityananda Rama dasa

Various Grades of Bhakti Nāradīya Purāṇa 1.15.38-51

viṣṇau samarpitaṁ sarvaṁ sāttvikaṁ saphalaṁ bhavet
hari-bhakti parā nṝṇāṁ sarva-pāpa-praṇāśinī

[Lord Vishnu, incarnated as Dharma, religiosity
personified, said to the
sagacious king Bhagirath:]
Everything dedicated to Lord Vishnu attains success
and goodness. It is transcendental devotion to Lord
Hari that is the destroyer of all sins of human beings.

sā bhaktir daśadhā jñeyā pāpāraṇya-davopamā
tāmasai rājasaiś caiva sāttvikaiś ca nṛpottama

O best among kings! That devotional service which
is like a great fire for a forest of sins is understood
to be divided into ten types according to [the broad
categories of] tāmasī-bhakti, devotion in the mode of
ignorance, rājasī-bhakti, devotion in the mode of passion,
and sāttvikī-bhakti, devotion in the mode of goodness.

[Translator’s Note: These ten categories are as follows:

(1) adhamā-tāmasī-bhakti, low-level devotion in the
material mode of
ignorance;
(2) madhyamā-tāmasī-bhakti, intermediate devotion
in the
material mode of ignorance;
(3) uttamā-tāmasī-bhakti, superior devotion in
the
material mode of ignorance;
(4) adhamā-rājasī-bhakti, low-level
devotion in the
material mode of passion;
(5) madhyamā-rājasī-bhakti,
intermediate devotion in
the material mode of passion;
(6)
uttamā-rājasī-bhakti, superior devotion in the
material mode of
passion;
(7) adhamā-sāttvikī-bhakti, low-level devotion in the
material
mode of goodness;
(8) madhyamā-sāttvikī-bhakti, intermediate devotion
in
the material mode of goodness;
(9) uttamā-sāttvikī-bhakti, superior devotion in the
material mode of
goodness;
(10) uttamottamā-bhakti, topmost devotion devoid
of the material
modes.]

yac cānyasya vināśārthaṁ bhajanaṁ śrī-pater nṛpa
sā tāmasy adhamā bhaktiḥ khala-bhāva-dharā yataḥ

O King! That devotional service towards the Lord
of Sri, Lakshmi, which is performed for revengefully
destroying someone, is known as adhamā-tāmasībhakti,
low-level devotion in the material mode of
ignorance, for it consists of rogue-like tendencies.

yo ’rcayet kaitava-dhiyā svairiṇī sva-patiṁ yathā
nārāyaṇaṁ jagannāthaṁ tāmasī madhyamā tu sā

One who worships Lord Jagannath, also known
as Narayan, with a deceitful heart, like an
unchaste wife worshiping her husband, performs
madhyamā-tāmasī-bhakti, intermediate devotion in
the material mode of ignorance.
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