Universal Citizens Forum — Srila Prabhupada

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

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If a previous ācārya has already written about something, there is no need to repeat it for personal sense gratification

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

ei līlā varṇiyāchena dāsa vṛndāvana

ataeva saṅkṣepa kari’ kariluṅ varṇana

SYNONYMS

ei līlā—this pastime; varṇiyāchena—has described; dāsa vṛndāvanaVṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura; ataeva—therefore; saṅkṣepa—briefly; kari’—doing; kariluṅ varṇana—I have described.

TRANSLATION

This incident has been described in detail by Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura. Therefore, I have described it only in brief.

PURPORT

This is a matter of etiquette. If a previous ācārya has already written about something, there is no need to repeat it for personal sense gratification or to outdo the previous ācārya. Unless there is some definite improvement, one should not repeat.: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/12/150

Several QAs with Srila Prabhupada

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Several QAs with Srila Prabhupada
Letter to Caturbhuja — Los Angeles 9 May, 1973: May 09, 1973

My Dear Caturbhuja,

Please accept my blessings. I beg to aknowledge receipt of your letter dated April 27, 1973. Thank you very much.
In answer to your several questions, first; what is meant by conditioned sould? Conditioned soul means one who has accepted something illusion as reality. Conditioned means that due to imperfect desires the spirit soul becomes dependent on material conditions for his satisfaction.

Your second question; how does he become conditioned when the jivatma is eternal full of bliss and knowledge? The answer is that it is not the soul itself that becomes mixed with matter but it is his consciousness that becomes absorbed in trying to enjoy the matter. Out of desire to lord it over, the jiva soul forgets that he is eternal, full of knowledge and full of bliss and identifies with the material energy. So it is the consciousness of the conditioned soul that is affected.

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Srila Prabhupada: Already successful – No successor required

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Srila Prabhupada: Already successful – No successor
Source: IRM


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Will the power of the kṣatriyas will be in the hands of the Kṛṣṇa conscious persons sometime during this Kali-yuga?

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Will the power of the kṣatriyas will be in the hands of the Kṛṣṇa conscious persons sometime during this Kali-yuga?

Morning Walk — March 11, 1975, London:
Devotee (1): Śrīla Prabhupāda, will the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will take over the world eventually?

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Devotee (1): Is going to take over the world eventually some time during the Kali-yuga, in this Kali-yuga?

Prabhupāda: No, that is not possible, because only the fortunate persons will take.

Devotee (1): I mean, but will the power of the kṣatriyas will be in the hands of the Kṛṣṇa conscious persons sometime during this Kali-yuga?

Prabhupāda: Provided you become very expert to preach. Unless you preach, how they will take? (break)

Becoming Guru in ISKCON

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/btp68-Becoming-Guru-in-ISKCON.html

Becoming Guru in ISKCON

Back To Prabhupada, Issue 68, Vol 1, 2021GBC member and ISKCON Minister of Communications Anuttama Dasa (“AD”) gave an interview in which he explained the GBC’s system for “creating” GBC gurus. All quotes in shaded boxes are taken from this interview published on 28/7/20. Emphases added.Everyone become guruSrila Prabhupada stated:“Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu…Yare dekha, tare kaha ‘krsna’-upadesa: “You become guru. No qualification required. […] Anyone can do it, even a child. […] Three words: Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead; surrender unto Him; and chant Hare Krsna. Your life will be successful. […] Everyone can become guru by simply teaching these three words.”
(Room Conversation, 26/1/77)Srila Prabhupada makes it clear that Lord Caitanya’s order for everyone to “become guru” requires one to have no qualification and thus even a child can do it, because it only requires one to simply state 3 things: Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, surrender unto Him, and chant Hare Krsna. These are the same basic preacher gurus, or simple siksa gurus, mentioned in the article on pages 4-5. Thus, since to become guru requires no qualification, such that even a child can do it very easily, one does not require special training to become such a guru. However, to be a GBC guru requires a special training program:”we’ve instituted training for people before they can become a guru […] we create systems to lift up those people and help them in their service and help them perform that service for their guru. […] when they [the public] hear that they go ‘Wow. Actually I’ve never heard of an organization with gurus that has training for gurus.'”Thus, the GBC is not creating the gurus Srila Prabhupada actually ordered, which require no qualification, never mind a special guru training program.Not bona fide diksa gurusRather, this training program is supposedly for creating diksa gurus – or those who initiate disciples and take responsibility for delivering them back to Godhead – as successors to take Srila Prabhupada’s position as ISKCON’s diksa guru. However, Srila Prabhupada never gave any orders for such a guru.Under the GBC’s guru system, “technically” someone who could be an “idiot” can become a guru, and the gurus can make mistakes because they have “flaws”:”technically I could become a diksa guru […] people might come up and say ‘he’s an idiot, don’t let him do it’, but technically there’s no barrier […] that doesn’t mean because I start being a guru tomorrow I’m perfect in the sense I’m never going to do anything wrong. You know, I’m a human being, I’ve got flaws […]”However, Srila Prabhupada teaches that a bona fide diksa guru must be liberated and does not commit mistakes:“Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer must be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Krsna, or His bona fide representative the spiritual master, can re-lease the conditioned soul.”
(Bg., 7.14, purport)Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws […]”
(SB, 1.3.24, purport)Need to protect GBC gurus”We say well, yeah, because guru is meant to be as good as God […] And at the same time we need to have checks and balances and we need to have systems in place to protect our leaders. Like brahmacari […] That doesn’t mean we don’t have systems in place to make sure the brahmacaris go to mangala-arati […]”Echoing the points just made, AD accepts that the diksa guru is meant to be “as good as God”. However, AD then goes on to justify the GBC’s guru training program by comparing the GBC gurus to regular brahmacaris, who need systems in place to make sure they “go to mangala-arati”, and thus the GBC gurus also need “checks and balances” and “systems” to “protect” them. But brahmacaris are not meant to be “as good as God”, whilst real diksa gurus, because they are “as good as God”, do not require to be supervised to be protected:“An authorized spiritual master is as good as Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. If Hari is free to act as He likes, the empowered spiritual master is also free. As Hari is not subject to the criticism of mundane rules and regulations, the spiritual master empowered by Him is also not subjected.”
(Cc., Madhya-lila, 10.136)Need to protect discipleTherefore, due to these flawed GBC gurus, there is a corresponding training program for the would-be disciples of the GBC gurus, and one part of the training program deals with what to do if the guru “has a difficulty”:”we even talk about what to do if your guru has a difficulty. We’re open about these things”The interviewer asks how there can even be a need to “train” a guru when the guru is supposed to be an “enlightened person”. AD explains that the training program is required to try to rein in potential false gurus because:”disciples and followers have just had their hearts broken and their spiritual life crushed, and they go away faithless. So, you know, it’s Kali-yuga, we have to protect people, protect their faith.”Thus, AD is stating that the GBC is supporting a situation whereby fallible gurus are allowed to run rampant at the risk of crushing people’s spiritual lives, and this “guru training” is an attempt to try to protect people from these wobbly “Kali-yuga” gurus.ConclusionThe GBC’s “guru training” program to create diksa guru successors to Srila Prabhupada is not authorised. Nor is it even based on the concept of a bona fide diksa guru. Rather, it is based on the idea that ISKCON’s GBC guru system enables one to pretend to be “as good as God” without actually needing to be on this level, and therefore training and supervision is required to help pull off this fraud.One could of course instead just accept Srila Prabhupada as one’s diksa guru, since he actually is “as good as God”, and it was what he ordered should happen in ISKCON.

Padas

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Lotus feet of Nityananda, Krishna, and Radha.

6 proofs

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/6_proofs.htm

6 Proofs

SUMMER 2005
 

The great Guru hoax: Parts 1 and 2

By 1977, Srila Prabhupada had built ISKCON into a confederation of many dozens of temples, farm communities and restaurants, and accepted 10,000 disciples. He had also authored dozens of books of spiritual knowledge of which over 150 million had been distributed in all the major languages of the world. Shortly before his passing he issued a directive to all ISKCON centres and Governing Body Commissioners (GBC the senior managers running the movement) to be implemented immediately in ISKCON.
The directive, which is reproduced here , sets out a system by which Srila Prabhupada would continue to accept disciples without the need for him to be physically present on the planet. As you will read in the directive, he names 11 senior secretaries who were entrusted with accepting new recruits into the movement as direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada. The directive clearly states:

“The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative.”

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the new Smarta Brahmana Organization on the block–Present day Iskcon-and here’s the proof

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

Madhya 25.118–‘When one is transcendentally situated, he can perceive Me. This perception is the basis of one’s relationship with the Supreme Lord. Now let Me further explain this subject matter.PURPORT-Real spiritual knowledge has to be received from revealed scriptures. After this knowledge is attained, one can begin to perceive his actual spiritual life. Any knowledge achieved by speculation is imperfect. One must receive knowledge from the paramparā system and from the guru, otherwise one will be bewildered, and will ultimately become an impersonalist. When one very scrutinizingly deliberates, he can realize the personal feature of the Absolute Truth. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is always transcendental to this material creation. Nārāyaṇaḥ paro ‘vyaktāt:Nārāyaṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is always transcendental. He is not a creation of this material world. Without realizing spiritual knowledge, one cannot understand that the transcendental form of the Lord is always beyond the creative energy. The example of the sun and sunshine is given. The sunshine is not the sun, but still the sunshine is not separate from the sun. The philosophy of acintya-bhedābheda-tattva (simultaneously one and different) cannot be understood by one who is fully under the influence of the external energy. Consequently a person under the influence of the material energy cannot understand the nature and form of the Personality of the Absolute Truth.Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/25/118
Madhya 25.120–” ‘Now please hear from Me about the process of devotional service, which is applicable in any country, for any person, at all times and in all circumstances.PURPORT-The cult of bhāgavatadharma can be spread in all circumstances, among all people and in all countries. Many envious people accuse this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement of spoiling the rigidity of so-called Hinduism. That is not actually the fact. Śrī CaitanyaMahāprabhu confirms that devotional service to the Lord-the cult of bhāgavatadharma, which is now being spread as the HareKṛṣṇa movement-can be spread in every country, for every person, in any condition of life, and in all circumstances. Bhāgavatadharma does not restrict pure devotees to the Hindu community. A pure devotee is above a brāhmaṇa; therefore it is not incompatible to offer the sacred thread to devotees in Europe, America, Australia, Japan, Canada, and so on. Sometimes these pure devotees, who have been accepted by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, are not allowed to enter certain temples in India. Some high-castebrāhmaṇas and gosvāmīs refuse to take prasāda in the temples of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. Actually this is against the instruction of Śrī CaitanyaMahāprabhu. Devotees can come from any country, and they can belong to any creed or race. On the strength of this verse, those who are actually devotees and followers of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu must accept devotees from all parts of the world as pure Vaiṣṇavas. They should be accepted not artificially but factually. One should see how they are advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and how they are conducting Deity worship, saṅkīrtana and Rathayātrā. Considering all these points, an envious person should refrain from malicious atrocities.Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/25/120
Madhya 25.121–” ‘As far as religious principles are concerned, there is a consideration of the person, the country, the time and the circumstance. In devotional service, however, there are no such considerations. Devotional service is transcendental to all considerations.PURPORT-When we are on the material platform, there are different types of religions-Hinduism, Christianity, Mohammedanism, Buddhism, and so on. These are instituted for a particular time, a particular country or a particular person. Consequently there are differences. Christian principles are different from Hindu principles, and Hindu principles are different from Mohammedan and Buddhist principles. These may be considered on the material platform, but when we come to the platform of transcendental devotional service, there are no such considerations. The transcendental service of the Lord (sādhanabhakti) is above these principles. The world is anxious for religious unity, and that common platform can be achieved in transcendental devotional service. This is the verdict of Śrī CaitanyaMahāprabhu. When one becomes a Vaiṣṇava, he becomes transcendental to all these limited considerations. This is also confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā (14.26): māṁ ca yo ‘vyabhicāreṇa bhakti-yogena sevate sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate“One who engages in full devotional service, who does not fall down in any circumstance, at once transcends the modes of material nature and thus comes to the level of Brahman.”The devotional activities of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement are completely transcendental to material considerations. As far as different faiths are concerned, religions may be of different types, but on the spiritual platform, everyone has an equal right to execute devotional service. That is the platform of oneness and the basis for a classless society. In his Amṛtapravāhabhāṣya, Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura confirms that one has to learn from a bona fide spiritual master about religious principles, economic development, sense gratification and ultimately liberation. These are the four divisions of regulated life, but they are subjected to the material platform. On the spiritual platform, the four principles are jñānavijñānatadaṅga and tadrahasya. Rules, regulations and restrictions are on the material platform, but on the spiritual platform one has to be equipped with transcendental knowledge, which is above the principles of religious rituals. Mundane religious activity is known as smārtaviddhi, but transcendental devotional service is called Gosvāmī-viddhi. Unfortunately many so-called gosvāmīs are on the platform of smārtaviddhi, yet they try to pass as Gosvāmī-viddhi, and thus the people are cheated. Gosvāmī-viddhi is strictly explained in Sanātana Gosvāmī’s Haribhaktivilāsa, wherein it is stated: yathā kāñcanatāṁ yāti kāṁsyaṁ rasa-vidhānataḥ tathā dīṣkā-vidhānena dvijatvaṁ jāyate nṛṇāmThe conclusion is that devotional service is open for everyone, regardless of caste, creed, time and country. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is functioning according to this principle.Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/25/121
Some Conclusions— Srila Prabhupada writes above….A pure devotee is above a brāhmaṇa; therefore it is not incompatible to offer the sacred thread to devotees in Europe, America, Australia, Japan, Canada, and so on. Sometimes these pure devotees, who have been accepted by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, are not allowed to enter certain temples in India.I find this point he makes about his disciples being pure devotees interesting. For one who has studied his teachings in his books, we will find many points about classes of devotees, the neophytes being the lowest, then Madhyama being second class and Uttama adhikari being the top most. And this is not the only place he mentions (twice in this purport) that his disciples being pure devotees. Of course that recognition of purity comes with the total acceptance and obedience to Srila Prabhupada that distinguishes those pure devotees from those devotees who are still so called  religionists, (smarta brahmanas) or those who do not follow 100% of his instructions.He writes…Unfortunately many so-called gosvāmīs are on the platform of smārtaviddhi, yet they try to pass as Gosvāmī-viddhi, and thus the people are cheated. 
So what is just one distinguishing characteristic of  a smarta brahmana from a goswami brahmana? He writes….When we are on the material platform, there are different types of religions-Hinduism, Christianity, Mohammedanism, Buddhism, and so on. These are instituted for a particular time, a particular country or a particular person.

Now we will explain how iskcon has changed things according to their time and circumstances 
Most  devotees today know of the massive changes in Prabhupadas books. One example that comes to mind is in an exchange between Dhira Govinda das and Dravida one of the BBT editors who wrote that just one of the changes he made in the books regarding the process of initiation was because the current mentality or way of doing  things in present day iskcon was different than the way Srila Prabhupada described  the process of initiation-and that is why he changed Prabhupadas own words-just to fit in with the current state of affairs in iskcon. First of all he should never change the Acaryas words, and then his reasons for this change is to fit in with the current way of thinking in iskcon. Here is his excuse or reasons below…..Taken From the original CC (below)…“Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji, who *initiated* Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn initiated Srila Gaurakisora dasa Babaji”(C:C, Chapter 1)In the new BBT doctored 9-volume edition, the same passage reads:“Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji, the spiritual master of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn accepted Srila Gaurakisora dasa Babaji”Dravida das, the BBTeditor writes….“On the side of not changing the “initiated” phrases we have the strong bias against changing the books unless absolutely necessary and the fact that Srila Prabhupada did indeed say that Jagannatha das Babaji initiated Bhaktivinode.”Please note that Dravida clearly ADMITS that Srila Prabhupada “DID indeed say that Jagannatha das Babaji initiated Bhaktivinode”.
To any sane person, this would be the ONLY reason required to NOT tamper with Srila Prabhupada’s teachings in any manner whatsoever. But hold on.Dravida Das has a reason that far outweighs a mere detail such as what Srila Prabhupada himself actually taught. Rather he states we must change Srila Prabhupada’s teachings to ensure they conform with what is currently understood within ISKCON in regards to initiation:Leaving one or both “initiated”s will strongly imply that the use of the phrases “direct disciple” and even “accepted [as his disciple]” indicate formal initiation as we know it in ISKCON, which is far from the truth.” (BBT Editor, Dravida Das)If  Dravida leaves in the words “initiated” in the CC purport, this means that the ritvik system can continue to initiate new devotees with Srila Prabhupada as their “living guru”. But iskcon does not want that system because they want to replace Prabhupada as the current and living guru of iskcon.So for this reason and a hundred more, present day iskcon has devolved itself into a smarta so called brahmana organization of materialistic religion having disobeyed the orders of its Acarya Srila Prabhupada . The Christians did the same thing with King Justinian hundreds of years ago when he ordered that passages about reincarnation be taken out of the Bible.  Why do that? He wanted to control the masses of blind followers into thinking that you only live one life and since you only had one lifetime you better do it according to his way, or else !Hare Krsnadamaghosa das

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Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami admits all ISKCON Gurus failed and flopped

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz37qsyc8-M (Admits after 2:11)
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=50226

Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami admits all ISKCON Gurus failed and flopped

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Video transcription (not clearly audible):

“But we should.. we should as an.. and Prabhupada memories can deteriorate, even the remembrance that he was here and what his quality was. So we have to do this kind of thing: remember him and we speak about his qualities, so that we don’t forget what he is in our life.

Because so the importance that I just spoke with of his presence that we can remember is his ability to take us back to Godhead, and that I see, as I said, as his quality of his power as an empowered agent of Krishna the loving agent to do that. You go in the material world you fit into disciplic succession, but in a very special way, and go and I’ve been reading these New York Diaries and the Jaladuta Diaries, go and bring all these souls back.

And he has done it, well he’s he has he’s done a lot of it, and a lot of it has to be done by his followers, but by following his, his example, and part of it you know what more can we do.

You know, we’ve flopped as trying to be gurus, they’re trying to carry out any imitation of his presence but remembrance itself is a big thing. Just remember how Prahupada held the cup or did this, did that, it’s a good thing asking all the devotees what was he like, what did he do, so there’s people in the future can remember that story you just told.”

Srila Prabhupada :Give Up All Rascals

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

“Even though somebody by mistake has gone to a rascal, the book is there. As soon as you find out, ‘Here is a rascal who does not know anything about Kṛṣṇa, and I have come to him,’ reject him. That is stated in the śāstra. Gurur apy avaliptasya kāryākāryam ajānantaḥ parityāgo vidhīyate. Even by mistake you have come to a rascal who does not know how to become guru, you can reject him. Why should you stick to him? Reject him. And by mistake I have come to rascal. Why shall I continue to accept him as guru? Cāṇakya Paṇḍita said, tyaja durjana-saṁsargaṁ bhaja sādhu-samāgamam: ‘Give up all rascals. Associate with sādhus.’ If you do not do that, that is your fault.Tyaja durjana-saṁsargaṁ bhaja sādhu-samāgamam. We have to mix with sādhu. Sādhu means who are twenty-four-hours engaged in Kṛṣṇa’s service. Things are there. Why should you mix with asādhu? Then how can you understand? Ādau śraddhā tataḥ sādhu-saṅgaḥ (CC Madhya 23.14-15). If you have got little faith, then next business is to associate with sadhus.”(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, Bhuvanesvara, January 31, 1977)

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ISKCON is selling Graham M Schweig’s Bogus Gita

October 16, 2021 in Articles by Laksman dasa

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Link where ISKCON stores are selling this bogus version online in “Other Editions” sections.http://store.krishna.com/bhagavad-gita-the-beloved-lords-secret-love-song/
This is a matter of etiquette. If a previous acarya has already written about something, there is no need to repeat it for personal sense gratification or to outdo the previous acarya.” [CC, Madhya, text 151]
Our students have no time to read our own books, but they have time to read other’s books, and the money to purchase them?
Srila Prabhupada Letter to: Cyavana:Bombay 13 October, 1973Brahmananda Swami has read me your letter regarding the students there reading other books. I request you to stop this practice. Our students have no time to read our own books, but they have time to read other’s books, and the money to purchase them? Why this mentality is there? You are a serious student, therefore you have correctly found out the defect in these books. We don’t want babaji class. We want active preachers.SRILA PRABHUPADA QUOTES ON BHAGAVAD GITA WITH NO KRSNA PICTURE CLEARLY VISIBLE ARE UNAUTHORIZED: 

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pure devotee makes no distinction-this is good prasadam-this is bad prasadam–SP

October 15, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Perfect devotee makes no discrimination over “Krsna prasadam”

Feb 27 1972 Mayapur
Bob: Let us say a devotee has a liking for one food over another food.
Prabhupāda: Yes. But if Kṛṣṇa does not like it, he won’t take.
Bob: And how does he know which food Kṛṣṇa likes him to take?
Prabhupāda: That is stated in the śāstra. You have to know from Kṛṣṇa. When you… Just like, what kind of behavior government likes, how do you know it? From the lawbooks. Is it not? Similarly, what Kṛṣṇa likes and not likes, you get from the śāstra. You cannot manufacture the like and disliking of Kṛṣṇa. …That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. To satisfy the senses of Kṛṣṇa. Not satisfy my senses. That is bhakti. That is called prema, love for Kṛṣṇa. “Oh, Kṛṣṇa likes this. I must give Him this.”
Bob: There is, some prasādam is offered, and then we go and eat, and different prasāda’s are served. And some I like, and some I find the taste not at all to my liking and do not eat.
Prabhupāda: You should not do that. The perfection is whatever is offered to Kṛṣṇa, you should accept everything. You cannot make, “I like this. I do not like this.” That is perfection. So long you make such discrimination that means you have not appreciated what is prasāda. (pause)
Devotee: What if there is someone… This… (Static)… likes and dislikes. Say, someone is preparing some prasādam…
Prabhupāda: No dislikings, no liking. Whatever Kṛṣṇa likes, that’s all right.
Devotee: Yes. But say someone prepares something, like some prasādam for Kṛṣṇa, but he does not make it so good, and it is…
Prabhupāda: No, if you have made sincerely with devotion, then Kṛṣṇa will like it. Just like Vidura. Vidura was feeding Kṛṣṇa banana. So he was so absorbed in thought he was, I mean to say, throwing away the real banana and he was giving Him the skin, and Kṛṣṇa was eating. (laughter) Because He knows that “He’s giving Me in the devotion.” So Kṛṣṇa can eat anything, provided there is devotion, real devotion. It does not matter whether it is materially tasteful or not. Similarly, a devotee also take Kṛṣṇa prasādam. Whether it is materially tasteful or not, he should accept everything.
Devotee: But the devotion is not there. Like in India…
Prabhupāda: Devotion is not there, He does not like any food, either is tasteful or not tasteful. He does not accept it.
Devotee: In India, somebody said…
Prabhupāda: No India, of India, don’t talk of India. Talk of the philosophy. If there is no devotion, Kṛṣṇa does not accept anything, either in India or in your country. It is not… Kṛṣṇa’s not obliged to accept anything costly because it is very tasteful. Kṛṣṇa has many tasteful dishes in Vaikuṇṭha. He’s not hankering after your food. He accepts your devotion. That out of… Bhaktyā, tad aham aśnāmi. Bhaktyā upahṛtam, real thing is devotion. Not the food. Kṛṣṇa does not accept any food of this material world. But He accepts only the devotion. Patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati [Bg. 9.26], tad aham aśnāmi bhaktyā upahṛtam. “Because it has been offered to Me with devotional love,” that is required. One who has no devotional love, from his hand… Therefore we do not allow anyone to cook who is not a devotee. Kṛṣṇa does not accept anything from the hands of a nondevotee. Why should He accept? He’s not hungry. He does not require any food. He accepts only the devotion. That’s all. That is the main point. So one has to become a devotee, not a good cooker. But if he’s a devotee, then he’ll be a good cook also. Yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcanā sarvair guṇais tatra samāsate surāḥ. Automatically he’ll become a good cook. Therefore one has to become devotee only; then all other good qualification will automatically be there. And if he’s a nondevotee, any good qualification has no value. Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇā mano-rathenāsati dhāvato bahiḥ [SB 5.18.12]. He’s on the mental plane. So he has no good qualification. [break] The time?
Śyāmasundara: Six o’clock. Twenty more minutes, twenty minutes. [break]
Prabhupāda: It is… Question and Answer, it is required. It is beneficial to all the…
Bob: I still have…, do not understand so much about what you’re telling me about the prasādam. But if you like I’ll think about it and ask, ask you again tomorrow. About prasādam.
Prabhupāda: Prasādam is always prasādam. So because we are not elevated sufficiently, therefore we do not like some prasādam.
Bob: I found, specifically what I mean, is some was too spicy and hurt my stomach.
Prabhupāda: Well, that is also due to … not appreciate. But Kṛṣṇa should be… The cook should have consideration that Kṛṣṇa must be offered first-class foodstuff. So if he offers something last class, that is not his duty. But Kṛṣṇa can accept anything if it is offered by a devotee, and a devotee also can accept any prasādam, even if it is spicy. [break] Hiraṇyakaśipu gave his son poison and he drank it nectarine. So for the devotee even it is spicy to other taste, it is very palatable to the devotee. What is the question of spicy? He was offered poison, real poison. [break] …[Putana]she also offered Kṛṣṇa poison, but Kṛṣṇa’s so nice that “She took Me as My mother.” So He took the poison and delivered her. Kṛṣṇa does not take the bad side. Any good man, he does not take the bad side; he takes only the good side. [break] [Tirtha maharaja]He wanted to make business with my Guru Mahārāja. But he did not take the bad side. He took the good side that “He has come forward to give me some service. So whatever he wanted he gave him.”
Bob: Business with you, what was that? Business with who?
Prabhupāda: That is, I am talking about my Guru Mahārāja.
Bob: Oh, oh, I see. [break] …question on prasādam, if I may. Let us say if some devotee has some trouble and does not eat a certain type of food. Like some devotees do not eat ghee because of liver trouble. So these devotees, should they take all the prasādam?
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. I say those who are not perfect devotee, they may discriminate. But a perfect devotee does not discriminate. So why should you imitate a perfect devotee? So long you have discrimination, you are not a perfect devotee. So artificially why should you imitate a perfect devotee and eat everything?
Bob: Oh-h.
Prabhupāda: The point is, a perfect devotee does not make any discrimination. Whatever is offered to Kṛṣṇa, it is nectar. That’s all. Just like exactly Kṛṣṇa accepts anything from a devotee. “Whatever is offered to Me by My devotee,” He accepts. The same thing for a devotee. [break] …point?
Bob: Yes.
Prabhupāda: The perfect devotee does not make any discrimination. But if I am not a perfect devotee, I have got discrimination, why shall I imitate a perfect devotee? That will not be possible to assimilate or digest. Because I am not a perfect devotee. These things are… A devotee should not be a foolish man.
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LA June 14 1972-lecture–He is mentioning especially vegetables, grains, fruits. But not that everyone can offer Kṛṣṇa all these things. No. He says yo me bhaktyā prayacchati. He does not accept anything from the hands of a nondevotee. Therefore the non-initiated student cannot offer Him.
He doesn’t accept. He says especially yo me bhaktyā prayacchati. He must be devotee. … Kṛṣṇa is giving you chance. It is very difficult to approach Kṛṣṇa, but Kṛṣṇa is so kind that He has appeared in your temple and He is accepting.
According to the rules and regulation, if you offer, He will accept.
This is the process of Deity worship.

May 6 1973 LA–.” Kṛṣṇa is not hungry. Kṛṣṇa is not hungry. He is self-satisfied, pūrṇa. But if His devotee offers Him something with love and affection, then He accepts. So do not think that “We have made such nice, sumptuous plate for Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa must eat.” No. There is no such thing, “must.” You cannot make Kṛṣṇa must. That is not possible. So Kṛṣṇa will see how much you have love for Him. Then He will accept. Otherwise He’ll reject. Therefore, it is forbidden, those who are nondevotee, those who are not initiated, those who are not chanting regularly, their offering to Kṛṣṇa will not be accepted. We must be very careful. We must know our position, whether I am sincerely following the principles of devotional service. Then Kṛṣṇa will accept. Yo me bhaktyā prayacchati. The real thing is bhakti. So either you offer Kṛṣṇa prayers or you offer foodstuff, everything must be along with bhakti, devotion, love. Then Kṛṣṇa will accept.
Jan 18 1971
Prabhupāda: Sama-darśinaḥ means you have no distinction what is sin and what is…
Guest (1): Sama-darśinaḥ means to treat everyone as equal.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Sama darśinaḥ means there is no distinction between sin and virtue. That is sama-darśinaḥ. As soon as you see, “This is virtue, and this is sin,” it is not sama-darśinaḥ.
Guest (1): Virtue and sin become the same in sama-darśinaḥ.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is sama-darśinaḥ.
Guest (2): In other words, the sin does not remain sin any longer.
Prabhupāda: That is another thing. But he has no vision that “This is sin, and this is virtue.” That is sama-darśinaḥ. As soon as you make distinction, you are not sama-darśinaḥ.

Some Conclusions—We have gone thru this nice conversation with Srila Prabhupada over discrimination during taking of Krsna Prasadam and how a perfect devtotee makes NO discrimination-this is good prasadam and this is bad prasadam. No– he takes it all as Krsnas mercy. We also read that Krsna only accepts foodstuffs , no matter how palatable or not they are based only upon His one criteria-If there is love and devotion then He Krsna, God will accept our offering. We also saw where Prabhupada said if one is not initiated or not chanting regularly, that offering also Krsna will not accept.
So this is not a “done deal” by any means when we cook nicely, make nice preps, then put it on our altar and then automatically the Supreme Lord with just accept our offerings. We may think He does, but He is looking for the love in which we cooked it, and the love in the way we offered it (tulsi leaves also on each prep) to Him. Then if He Krsna is satisfied, then it become Krsnas Prasadam
We have included another conversation at the end where Prabhupada describes the sama darshina-the sage or devotee with pure vision who also makes no discrimination.
If we see– this is good prasadam and that is bad prasadam-that is not sama darshina. The criteria for everything is whether Krsna accepts our service-thats all.
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das

SP talks about universal make up, paths ways between planets etc

October 11, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Hare Krsna-Below you will find a lot of nectar by SP regarding universal makeup, its creation, pathways between planets and much more. All this was in letters he wrote to his scientist disciples. I took these from the
Prabhupada Siksamrta, Volume #1. This 3 book volume is full of unlimited nectar.
damaghosa das
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March 9 1970 letter to Hayagriva
Regarding your question do the Vedic histories refer to this planet only. No. Vedic history means of this universe. Our history begins from the beginning of the creation because the creation takes place with the birth of Brahma from the abdomen lotus flower of Lord Visnu. Then Brahma gradually creates. He begets so many sons known as Prajapatis who are supposed to be the generators of living entities, and therefore the history begins from Brahma. In the Bhagavad-gita this is confirmed in the 15th chapter. It is said there that the root of this big universal banyan tree is on the top; therefore history begins from the top.
Yes. This planet comes later on. We can take the idea from the tree—the tree grows gradually, and the different fruits, branches, and twigs gradually appear. Therefore it is to be understood that this planet has grown later on. Besides this we understand that although the planet was later on grown up, it was covered with water—pralaya payodhi jale **, merged into the water after devastation. Then gradually it emerges from water. That we can experience, that gradually land is coming out of the oceans. Because of its being merged into water, it is natural to conclude that the beginning of life was aquatic. This is confirmed in Padma Purāṇa that the species of life evolved from aquatics to plants, vegetables, trees; thereafter insects, reptiles, flies, birds, then beasts, and then human kind. This is the gradual process of evolution of species of life.
But we do not accept Darwin’s theory. According to Darwin’s theory, homo sapiens came later on, but we see that the most intelligent personality, Brahma, is born first. So according to Vedic knowledge, Darwin or similar mental speculators are rejected so far the fact is concerned

Note-SP is not saying all these life forms evolved from one into another , lower to higher.

Jan 20 1968 Rupanuga letter
Regarding your question of the planetary systems, the planets are arranged in each universe in layers like the petals of a lotus. But in each layer there is mixed both heavenly, hellish and middle planets. On the outside layer there are these three kinds of planets, on the middle layers there are the three kinds of planets and on the inner-most layer there are found these three kinds of planets. Above these layers, in the center, is the Brahmaloka where Lord Brahma, the creator is residing. So the earth planet and the moon planet are both on the same layer but the earth is middle planet and the moon is heavenly planet.

July 9 1971 letter Jadurani
Krishna appeared as Narayana and when requested, he became a baby. But the picture is all right; The position of the four symbols for all three purusa avataras is the same; All the planets within the stem, that is to be understood. But they are seedling planets and are coming out of the stem, all below the lotus flower, just as seedling universes come out from the body of Maha Visnu; You don’t have to paint the subtle bodies

April 27 1976 letter Svarupa damodara
Please accept my blessings. Now our Ph.D’s must collaborate and study the 5th Canto to make a model for building the Vedic Planetarium. My final decision is that the universe is just like a tree, with root upwards. Just as a tree has branches and leaves so the universe is also composed of planets which are fixed up in the tree like the leaves, flowers, fruits, etc. of the tree. The pivot is the pole star, and the whole tree is rotating on this pivot. Mount Sumeru is the center, trunk, and is like a steep hill, like the alps mountains which also have very high peaks. I have seen in Switzerland one mountain peak which was so high that is penetrated through the clouds. The tree is turning and therefore, all the branches and leaves turn with the tree. The planets have their fixed orbits, but still they are turning with the turning of the great tree. There are pathways leading from one planet to another made of gold, copper, etc., and these are like the branches. Distances are also described in the 5th Canto just how far one planet is from another.
We can see that at night, how the whole planetary system is turning around, the pole star being the pivot. Each planet has its orbit fixed but the sun is moving up and down, north and south. It is not that we shall accept the theory that the sun is fixed up and the others are all going around the sun. That is not correct. Even the 7th star is rotating once around the pole star in each 24 hours. The whole universe is just like a big tree, that is a fact. I do not think that the modern astronomers have any such idea that the whole universe is like a big tree. The planets which are full of living entities are one after another, one above the other. The relative positions of the planets is fixed up but the whole thing is turning. The sun is going north and south, it has its own orbit below the moon. So now you all Ph.D.’s must carefully study the details of the 5th Canto and make a working model of the universe. If we can explain the passing seasons, eclipses, phases of the moon, passing of day and night, etc. then it will be very powerful propaganda.
I am sending this letter to you, and you can make photocopies of it and send to our other Ph.D.’s and begin serious research into the matter in detail. But one thing, I am convinced that the universe is just like a great tree as described therein.

Aug 27 1967 letter Jananivasa
Yes, anything of which we have no conception, the unknown particle, that is the representation of Paramatma. Yes, your interpretation is quite feasible, because from the Vedic literature that spiritual particle is measured as 1/10,000 part of the upper portion of the hair. So if the physicist’s conclusion about the measurement of the soul, that is 100 times finer than what they are already discovered. But however fine and smallest it may be, there is measurement of spirit soul, maybe beyond the experimental knowledge of human scientists. The confusion must continue because this measurement of spirit soul is beyond the range of experimental mind, and understanding. Therefore, confusion. Therefore you have to accept the experience of spirit soul from Vedic literature. If one tries to understand otherwise they will remain in confusion. Subject which is beyond their understanding by experimental knowledge, and if they try to understand it by the same experimental knowledge, that means confusion. This has to be understood by descending process of disciplic succession, or by deductive process, meaning for instance, my mother says this man is my father, I accept, there is no experience. God’s name is therefore Adhoksaja which means beyond experimental knowledge. You can inform them that here is statement in Vedic literature (Padma Purāṇa) that the measurement of soul is 1/10,000 of the upper portion of the hair. You are meant for doing this and I shall assist you as far as possible. I thank you for your promise to send me one letter a week.

Feb 10th 1969 letter to Govinda dasi
Regarding your German acquaintance, I understand that he may be a very intelligent man and believes in science. But even the most advanced scientist depends on the statements of authorities. Science begins on some definite data, just like Sir Isaac Newton discovered the law of gravitation, and so much scientific advancement depends on such authoritative statements. So even scientific knowledge has to stand on the evidence of authority. He admits that we are all spirit soul inside the body entrapped, and he believes this body is composed of various chemicals about which we know a great deal. But unfortunately, with all this chemical combinations combined together, we can not produce a body like this; this is also a scientific fact. Just like rasgulla is a milk product everyone knows. But how to make a rasgulla from milk requires expert further knowledge. Therefore, simply to know that this body is made of chemicals is not sufficient knowledge. When one can reproduce a similar body with the known chemicals, then he is to be considered as the expert scientist. The spirit soul is impossible to find out by materialistic scientific means, but if one will hear from the right authority, he may understand.

March 2 1969 letter to Janardana
We should train our disciples as well as ourselves in such a spirit that even if the whole world is against us, which is impossible to happen, the Sankirtana Movement must be pushed on without any reference to archeological evidence or any such scientific advancement of knowledge. Besides that, the argument that archeological evidence will lead many people to accept the philosophy of Lord Caitanya has no evidence. For example, the Christian religion principle is now established in archeological evidence, but still it is not that the whole people of the world are attracted by Christian religion. Even a great scientist, Professor Albert Einstein, was Jewish by religion, but because the Christian religion gives evidential proof of archeological discovery, still he did not become a Christian. No religion or no principle is accepted by the whole world; that is a fact. I can give you a statement of Albert Einstein in which he says “The most beautiful and most profound emotion we can experience is in the sensation of the mystical. It is a shower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, he who can no longer stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power which is revealed in the comprehensible universe forms my idea of God.”

Dec 12 1971 letter Danavir
Also it is nice that you are infiltrating into the schools and colleges. These are the best customers for our philosophy. Give them nice philosophy, let them challenge us with any mundane philosophy and we shall very scholarly defeat them. The difference is that we have got absolute authority from the Source of Knowledge, Krishna, while your western mundane philosophers are simply speculating on the mental platform, which is always changing. Therefore, a philosopher is not a philosopher unless he refutes his predecessor and produces something new. This kind of knowledge is useless. Actually, no one has got any philosophy nowadays, everyone is acting according to his own whims. Therefore there is no security, no peace, everything is unpredictable and dangerous. Therefore all the young boys and girls in your country—and all over the world—are fed up with this lack of philosophy and they have taken to the philosophy of hopelessness: Everything is empty, therefore let me enjoy, it doesn’t matter. But this philosophy is also useless. Because if you want to enjoy and I also want to enjoy, there will be clash, fighting. And we have seen in Moscow that Marx and Lenin philosophy is no better. God is dead, the State is God: this philosophy has killed the spirit, and the Russian people are very morose and unhappy. They want to join us, that is a fact. So now you defeat all sorts of philosophies, become very convinced yourself and learn our Krishna philosophy perfectly. In this way, any sane man will listen to you and become convinced. Our philosophy is practical. Actually, philosophy means practical application—if it is mere theory then it has no value. But our Krishna philosophy is working now in modern society to solve all kinds of problems, all over the world, never mind white man, black man,

Nov 7 1972 letter Krsna dasa
Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated October 30, 1972, and I have noted the contents. It appears that you are again constantly disturbed by the same nonsense doubts. These things are not very important, we may not waste our time with these insignificant questions. If we are seeking to find out some fault, maya will give us all facility to find any small thing and make it very big, that is maya. But such questions as yours: why there is so-called discrepancy between the views of Bhagavat and modern scientists regarding the moon and other planets, and whether Hitler is good or bad man, these are most insignificant matters, and for anyone who is sincerely convinced that Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for him these questions do not arise. Our information comes from Vedas, and if we believe Krishna, that
vedaham samatitani vartamanani carjuna bhavisyani ca bhutani mam tu veda na kascana [Bg. 7.26] that He knows everything, and “vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo vedanta-krd veda-vid eva caham [Bg. 15.15],” that Krishna is non-different from Vedas, then these questions do not arise.

Jan 21 1968 letter Janardana
Yes, anything of which we have no conception, the unknown particle, that is the representation of Paramatma. Yes, your interpretation is quite feasible, because from the Vedic literature that spiritual particle is measured as 1/10,000 part of the upper portion of the hair. So if the physicist’s conclusion about the measurement of the soul, that is 100 times finer than what they are already discovered. But however fine and smallest it may be, there is measurement of spirit soul, maybe beyond the experimental knowledge of human scientists. The confusion must continue because this measurement of spirit soul is beyond the range of experimental mind, and understanding. Therefore, confusion. Therefore you have to accept the experience of spirit soul from Vedic literature. If one tries to understand otherwise they will remain in confusion. Subject which is beyond their understanding by experimental knowledge, and if they try to understand it by the same experimental knowledge, that means confusion. This has to be understood by descending process of disciplic succession, or by deductive process, meaning for instance, my mother says this man is my father, I accept, there is no experience. God’s name is therefore Adhoksaja which means beyond experimental knowledge.

Feb 10 1969 letter to Govinda
The spirit soul is impossible to find out by materialistic scientific means, but if one will hear from the right authority, he may understand. The gentleman is disappointed that probably no one will ever know about spirit, but this is not true. We know what is spirit, how does it work, how does it transmigrate from one body to another or from one planet to another. We know these very scientifically, and we are firmly convinced about it. We can refute any dogmatic arguments against this conviction, and how do we do that? Simply because we start our understanding from the data of authoritative sources like Krishna or His representative. In the Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna speaks about spirit soul from the very beginning. Unless one understands what is this spirit soul, his further advancement of the Supreme Spirit God has no value.

Jan 23 1970 letter Hamsadutta
Regarding your question: you are right when you write to say that everything about us, tables, chairs, bricks etc. is originally emanating from sound vibration. This is also admitted in the Christian Bible wherein it is said that God said, Let there be creation. And there was creation. So, “said” means it was sound vibration; but this sound vibration is not material sound vibration because before creation of material sky and sound, transcendental sound was there. So actually the transcendental sound is the cause of creation, but material sound is not transcendental sound. We have to receive transcendental sound through the transcendental channel, therefore, Vedas are called Sruti. That means transcendental sound can be received through the ear. And by hearing this transcendental sound through the ear our heart becomes spiritually purified, and we can realize at that stage the transcendental Name, transcendental Qualities, transcendental Form, transcendental Pastimes etc. That is the way of descending process.

Nov 17 1971 letter to Brhaspati
Try to interest these students in our books. If you simply stick to the textbook teaching becomes very easy. Philosophy is the highest, but even higher than philosophy is practice of philosophy. So when your students apply Krishna philosophy to their lives, they will feel the beneficial result, and this will make your teaching work very easy. Just like you add hydrogen and oxygen and get water. So let them chant and learn Bhagavad-gita and they will get Krishna’s mercy. I am successful in my teaching work because I have not deviated one inch from my Spiritual Master’s instruction, this is my only qualification.

Dec 8 1971 letter Upendra
You say that you have met people who claim that by evolution we are approaching a higher stage of existence. That is true in one sense, that anyone who takes to Krishna Consciousness may elevate himself to the highest status of life. Krishna mentions many types of higher beings in Bhagavad-gita, such as demigods and those who dwell on higher planets. We have information that there are 8,400,000 species of life. Out of these, 400,000 species are considered human life. Of these 400,000, how many species do we find in our experience? Not many, probably less than 1,000, so we must conclude that there are hundreds of thousands of higher and lower types of human forms. But this does not mean that automatically one body evolves into a higher body. No. It is described by Krishna how the soul becomes embodied according to his desire. So there are 8,400,000 types of bodies eternally existing. Not that the appearance of a new form in this world means that form has never existed previously. No, as conditions change on this earth planet, the living entities here desire to enjoy in a different way, so they take a different type of body. Even that body may be new here, it has always existed also somewhere else. So if a man qualifies for that body, he may be rewarded the body of superman, as he desires. So if someone wants such body, he must learn the process for acquiring it, that is Bhagavad-gita.

Dec 8 1971 letter Upendra
Practically speaking, history tells us that human life is becoming more and more degraded in respect of good qualities. Even there may be some temporary advancement of technology, where is the question of being higher than previously? In Vedic literature we find description of all kinds of wonderful machines, like great airplanes which moved as fast as the mind on the principle of sound vibration. Where is that science now? And how is their science advancing when their sons are all becoming hippies who have no interest in such science? Compare our so-called knowledge today with the giant brains who gave us Vedic literature. No poetry, no science, no philosophy, no religion, no culture, no knowledge we have today can be said to be superior to that we find 5,000 years or more ago in India. So where is the question of advancement of civilization? We cannot create even one flower, what to speak of one sun, so we should not be hopeful that in this material atmosphere there will be any kind of improvement at all. Better to become closely associated with the Supreme Perfect, then we shall know what is perfection of our life. This is the culmination of evolution.

June 5 1973 letter Revatinanda
Yes, your article is very nice. It is very important that we now expose the nonsense theories of these rascal scientists who assert that life comes from matter. They say that life comes from some chemicals, but they cannot say wherefrom these chemicals have come. Actually, if we examine carefully, chemicals are coming from life, not life from chemicals. Just like the lemon tree. It is producing so many lemons. In each lemon there is so much citric acid. So, due to the presence of life, so many chemicals are being produced. Also, I have experienced, that one of my toenails has come off due to infection, but now my body is replacing that nail with another one of the exact size and shape as the one I have lost. If I have got such a potency to create, then what to speak of the Supreme Living Being lord Sri Krsna. If the sub-living entities can produce so much chemicals then what to speak of the Supreme living entity. This is called inconceivable potency. The living being has got an inconceivable potency to create. I do not know how my nail is coming. And the Supreme Living Entity or God, has got unlimited potency to create. I do not think that any reasonable intelligent man or scientist can deny. Aham sarvasya prabhavo, I am the source of everything, [Bg. 10.8].

Oct 24 1975 letter Svarupa damodara
In the words of Bhagavad-gita, they are described as mudhah, mayaya-apahrta jnana. Besides that, can you tell me what is the scientific opinion of the days being consecutively Sunday then Monday, then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and last Saturday? What is the history of this set-up? (from Sunday to Saturday).
According to our sastra, sun is first, then moon, then Venus, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, like that. In other words, from Bhagavatam we understand that the moon is 1,600,000 miles above the sun. If that is true, then is it possible to go to the moon planet by persons who can never imagine to go the distance to the sun planet? Under the circumstances, if we say that they have never gone to the moon planet, is it exaggeration? You are a scientist, I hope you will reply these 2 points scientifically. If the moon planet is actually far away from the sun planet, how they can go there and publish in the paper that the moon planet is the nearest planet.

July 27 1973 letter Karandara
When my Guru Maharaja was present even big, big scholars were afraid to talk with His beginning students. My Guru Maharaja was called “Living Encyclopedia”, he could talk with anyone on any subject. He was so learned—so we should be like that as far as possible. No compromise—Ramakrishna, avataras, yogis, everyone was enemy to Guru Maharaja—he never compromised. Some God-brothers complained that this preaching was chopping technique and it would not be successful. But we have seen that those who criticized, they fell down. For my part I have taken up the policy of my Guru Maharaja—no compromise. All these so called scholars, scientists, philosophers who do not accept Krsna are nothing more than rascals, fools lowest of mankind etc..
So you go on with your work, it is very encouraging to me. Thank you.

Action in freedom has some meaning–SP

October 9, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

April 18 1972 Hong Kong conversations
Guest (1): The Hare Kṛṣṇa movement has started in the United States. Why did it start in the United States, rather than India?
Prabhupāda: Because the United States, they are our best customer. A businessman goes to a place… Just like you have come here. Why you have come here? Wherever there is best possibility of doing your business, there you must go. I went to United States because I know these people are not poverty-stricken. And our Indian people, they are now, they have been trained to think like that—they are poverty-stricken. Actually, they are not poverty-stricken, but the leaders have educated them that, “You are all poverty-stricken.” This is India’s position. So far I knew that it would not be successful in India. The government will not help. The public is educated in a different way. They are after technology. So and “familiarity breeds contempt.” They say, “What is this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement? It is known to us since a long time. What effect it will have?” Many Indian students in foreign countries, they say, “Swamiji, what will this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement benefit us? We want technology.” So that is the mentality of the Indians at the present moment. They have lost everything and therefore they are beggars. They have lost their own culture and therefore they are beggars. So I thought it wise that I shall go to a country where there is no poverty. They will learn. They have enough. For material enjoyment, they have got enough. The material enjoyment means money and woman. That is, in America, it is lying on the street. As much as you like, you can take. But they are disgusted with this material enjoyment. Therefore they are coming as hippies. They are coming from very rich family. Their fathers, their grandfathers, are very rich. At least they belong to the richest nation. But they are not satisfied. They are not satisfied. That is the natural sequence. The Vedānta-sūtra says, athāto brahma jijñāsā. When one has satisfied his senses sufficiently, he is no longer interested in sense gratification. Perhaps you know C.R. Das, the name of C.R. Das in Calcutta. In those days, fifty years ago he was earning fifty thousand rupees per month, but he was not satisfied. And one day he and his wife were sitting together and the wife questioned, “Why do you look so morose? You have got everything at your command. Everyone respects you. You have got money. Everything you have got, education, popularity. Still, why you are unhappy?” So he simply, by chance he saw one mendicant was passing on the street, a sādhu beggar. So he said, “I want to become like him.” He said, “I want to be a mendicant like him.” So there are many instances in our history. Just like Bhārata Mahārāja. He was young man, twenty-four years old, and emperor of the whole planet, young wife, king, everything. He left everything. Bhārata Mahārāja passed long, long ago. Buddha, Lord Buddha, he was also prince and very young, and he was surrounded with dancing girls. But as soon as he came out on the street, he saw one old man. “What is this?” “This is old man. Everyone has to become old like this.” So he became immediately converted to a saintly person. “I must go and meditate and realize myself. Why shall I become old?” [break] I accept a new opportunities to preach it from everything. That is my philosophy. And it has become successful. If I had taken this position from India… I was trying. In India also, I tried. I wrote Mahatma Gandhi that “You are very respectable man, and people like you. You preach Bhagavad-gītā. You stand with your photograph. There is Bhagavad-gītā. Why don’t you preach Bhagavad-gītā? Now politics is finished. You have got independence.” But this politics is so sweet to these politicians, that until he was killed, he could not give up politics, until he was killed. He was advocating non-violence, but he was forced to die by violence. He wanted Hindu-Muslim unity. He was forced to accept partition of India. He was so much baffled, but still, he would not give up politics until he was killed. On the day of his death, in the morning, because he had so many letters, so many secretaries, so he said, “I am very much useless. I want to die.” He said like that. And actually, in the evening he was killed. He was thinking that “My next solace is only death,” because he could understand, “I have created simply problems. No problem I have solved. I have simply created problem.” He was a sane man. He could understand it. So similarly, everyone is creating simply problems, without solving… This United Nations, what they are doing for the last twenty years? Simply creating problems. So without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, there is no question of solving problems. That’s a fact. Any sane man, any philosopher, any scientist may come. I shall convince him.
Guest (1): How many disciples do you now have, sir, in the U.S.?
Prabhupāda: You cannot expect many disciples, but still, there are two thousand. Because I have got so many conditions and the fact is so difficult to understand, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. They have forgotten Kṛṣṇa, they have forgotten God, and I am trying to make them Kṛṣṇa conscious. It is a very difficult job. I have to shed my blood three tons before I make one convinced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is my experience. I have to talk with him, especially these Europeans and Americans. They do not accept anything so blindly.

July 5 1976 Wash DC conversations

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